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Glad you still talked about it. I've never wanted kids and the thought of being forced to go through a pregnancy because of an accident (or worse..) just sounds like my worst nightmare, even though I'm financially stable and live in a country with a good health care system.
Ellen MOVED to a stolen island where poverty is SO bad and where NATIVE HAWAIIANS are 10% of the population due to extremely recent colonialism yet they are 42% of the homeless population And she moved to their island to eat their food in abundance, to not work, to take acres of land from them, to walk by the native homeless and struggling day after day and not use her platform a SINGLE TIME to talk about the struggles of natives THAT SHE IS CHOOSING TO CONTRIBUTE TO. She’s made multiple videos about how much she loves living in Hawaii and how GREAT her life is but she can’t even stop to say “I have this while other people don’t and I contribute to that” And THEN she denies her excessive privilege and claims that no one is experiencing enough mental, physical, or financial hardship to decide not to be pregnant. Which is inherently invasive and dangerous and expensive.
Wow I can't believe I used to watch her...nothing wrong with living in Hawaii or even visiting it but she's obviously in it for herself and the clout. Doesn't even matter if she's vegan/lives a sustainable life, from what I know/seen she hasn't helped her fellow community in anyway. All I see on her instagram are neatly manicured pictures..great comment btw
Haha I love how you assume those getting abortions arent privledged 🤣 ummm even celebrities get abortions 🙄. Nice stereotyping and racism. I'm sure you assume they are beneath you too right. You prob think they are all poor, on food stamps, and uneducated too right? I've seen that rebuttal plenty of times
Kayla Austin - 🙄Get over yourself. By deciding what an entire population can do, they are also deciding what less privileged people can do. Duh. I’m a minority btw. Good on you for making assumptions. 👍🏿
Considering that company that she got over $23,000 in free furniture from sells large amounts of leather furniture, you can she's mainly just in it for profit.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm pro choice for any situation. Even if the parents are in a long term monogamous relationship with plenty of money and resources I still believe in their right to terminate the pregnancy if that's what's right for them. No amount of legislation or guilt tripping should change that. you have a right to choose whether you expand your family or not regardless of how good or bad your situation may be. I guess I am pro abortion hahah
I don't think that is a very unpopular opinion, depending on where you are/who you are asking. In Western Europe, where I am from, people in these exact circumstances absolutely reserve the right to abort and people would mostly support or at least accept it. The stress on the body on the pregnant person is so underrepresented in this conversation. It is hard and dangerous and if you are at a tough physical spot right now, you should have the right and the option to not do it. My mum was a tiny woman and suffered the rest of her life from having me.
Here in Germany most people are pro choice, althhough the politics is making it a bit harder (there is a lawthat forbids doctors of informing patients that they offer abortion)....
It’s crazy that she doesn’t get it and she lives on Maui: that island has so much homeless and poverty stricken people. When I visited a few years ago we even heard radio messages about programs funded by the state for grandparents raising their grandchildren because it’s such a huge issue there.
Sydni Phillips i live in hawaii and unfortunately many priviliged and wealthy people are almost oblivious to poverty, homelessness, and native issues. it’s horrible that the islands are only seen as “paradise” and no one is shown the ugly side of life here
Lmao exactly I got into it with Ellen one time on Instagram because I said she should include people of color in her “circle” who are the actual people who have built the community she now lives in, harvests the food she eats, built the roads she drives in etc. she got SO DEFENSIVE and went in my DMs defending herself. It was hilarious.
Omg I just re read my messages with Ellen She said some ridiculous stuff including this about native Hawaiians : I got some comments of people saying that native Hawaiians do not have the same opportunity for success as white people here in Hawaii. That could not be further from the truth. My native Hawaiian friends laugh at those type of comments, and some find that actually offensive. Native Hawaiians actually have MORE opportunity to success here- For example, only native Hawaiian are allowed to attend the high education/academic school, Kamehameha, and there are certain pristine areas of land that only native Hawaiians are allowed to purchase property on, at a very cheap price.
I recall her saying that Scout was the last baby she was going to birth, and that they may adopt in the future. Well there goes that plan, assuming her natural family planning failed.
Rachel Right if you only talk about adoption in the context as an alternative to abortion because you don’t like abortions, then you don’t really support adoption.
@Mary's Mother HER body ceases to be hers alone when there is a baby in it. A human baby didn't choose a mother and father that that were going to kill them at 5 months by cutting them into peices, any more than a baby cow chose to be born into slavery and then cut into peices.
I was already pro choice before getting pregnant, right after delivery and now at 6 months postpartum I am fiercely pro choice because this shit isn't for everyone.
It's extremely disturbing that you would be ok with women murdering human beings, when you have been pregnant, and had a child... One would hope that experience would endow you with empathy. Yeah man, this shit isn't for everyone. Kill people because they are inconvenient, or difficult... the experience of not murdering is not for everyone...
I’ve heard stories where women would rather commit suicide than have to have a baby. I don’t know why the value of a fetus is seen as more important than a fully developed woman. And not to mention that CHILDREN can get pregnant...I’m 15 and even tho I have a period doesn’t mean I should have to GIVE BIRTH
björky she never disregards that fact, she simply states her own opinion about HER child and HER pregnancy, and then shares that with the world. If this were a post about her getting an abortion we’d all support her, why can’t we support her belief in life being valuable? People who don’t want to be pregnant are valid but other people should be able to express their feelings as well. It’s hypocritical to think otherwise.
@@MichelleMarieeTV it's because in a political climate like this, publicly stating that you're pro-life can have very real political consequences for women. i also wish it were as simple as "pro-choice, pro-life, just believe what you want to believe!" but it's not.
I’m so appreciative that you made this video. I had an abortion at 16 because my father told me to “get rid of it or I’ll get rid of it for you”. I was terrified of him. What would Ellen say about that? And why did she all of the sudden jump in this political train? I know she’s anti-vaxx, which bothers me in every way. But she lives i a fairytale world. She needs a reality check.
Inês Fareleiro thank you for being kind, I am a far stronger person now than I was then. I will always lift women up and support their choices. We all deserve love, support and understanding, not shame.
I am so sorry you went through that. You should not need to feel guilt, and this is coming from a “conservative Christian.” You didn’t have a choice. It was taken from you, and for that I’m sorry.
Lutheran Ninja I love Unnatural Vegans channel because of all of the open and science minded people here, and you are definitely a wonderful person for this comment. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, women are awesome and we need each other. ✌🏻
Tingle Tiger ASMR i think Ellen would have stood up for your right to not be forced into having an abortion. Being threatened by your abusive father doesn't mean abortion was the right choice for you, it means your father was evil and crazy. And I can't express how sorry I am for that. I think Ellen posted in response to the "a fetus is a clump of cells" rhetoric, not to demonize every woman who's ever had an abortion regardless of the context.
I told my mom when I was 6 that I didn't want kids. She said not to ever say that again because people will think I'm weird. I'm in my 30s now... still don't want kids. I love kids and they're cute and hilarious. Still do not want any.
I don't want kids either. Never have. I take precautions. But if I ended up pregnant, I wouldn't murder my baby. Everyone knows that having sex means you might get pregnant. Me not wanting a baby doesn't justify murder.
casket rat I also have been telling my family since I was very small, like 4 yrs old, that I don’t want babies. Didn’t even turn on my baby annabelle lol. If I was to fall pregnant I would have an abortion. I have health complications that add to that decision but I know I wouldn’t be a good mother and pregnancy isn’t something I want. Fingers crossed my ablation works!
@@SydLane people like you say all this shit but I'm sure you'd make the man also be responsible, right? oh wait, you wont, because to people like you think woman magically get themselves pregnant and men aren't responsible at all.
Huh, I don’t think she said she’d like to force women to have sex? That’s interesting, I must have missed the part where she said “all women should have sex and then give birth, whether they want to or not.” No, I think she said that the baby that was conceived due to your choices is a living being and shouldn’t be murdered because you didn’t think through your actions. But maybe I missed something?
Rachel Bowlow also, Rachel, a fetus isn’t considered a person for fourteenth amendment purposes until it is viable. It’s not murder. Just ugh. Idk who ur parents are but they did not do a good job :(
Rachel Bowlow you missed the point that rape exists. The point that not every women wants children and not every pregnancy is safe and not all Babies are born healthy.
As a Canadian I can't believe the cost of delivering a baby in the states. Yes, our healthcare is not free, but we don't leave the hospital with a huge bill!
A small number of people have been convinced by an even smaller number of politicians that corporate profits are more important than our own welfare, and this vocal minority holds the majority hostage. That's often how it works in a democracy - especially one where money is king. It's not so much majority rule, but who can organize best and yell the loudest, and this is what money affords corporate interests that use it to benefit their financial bottom line at the expense of everyone and everything else.
I’m Canadian too and was shocked as well. I mean, our healthcare is basically free. I broke my femur and had 3 major surgeries and months of physiotherapy and only paid 50$ for the ambulance I took.
Lol the sun is not here for anything, it just is. We evolved to endure a degree of radiation but the damage we've done to the ozone layer means our threshold is much lower than the radiation we currently have. So, yes, a small amount of direct sunlight is bearable but not positive. Indirect sunlight is enough for vitamin d. Funny enough, the psychological effects of sunlight are much more complex, since it seems the optimal amount for mind health is higher than the optimal amount for body health.
Some other important considerations: women of colour are 2-4 times more likely to die in childbirth. Also, post natal deprsssion, anxiety, and psychosis can complicate the decision to have (more) children. And finally, there is trauma associated with adoption (not in all, but in many), which is often unrecognized. It’s such a controversial subject and it’s disappointing when influencers don’t seem to acknowledge their privilege in holding a pro life stance.
“Children are valuable!” Yup, she sure would think that, considering her babies are the source of her income... talk about value!🤭🤔 Just so everyone knows, I do think that kids and babies are valuable, but I can’t help not to see the hypocrisy in her words: if unborn children are so valuable, why would se exploit her born ones?
Oatdeer I’m sure she does, but I can’t help but see what she does as exploitation. I used to love her and her family as a child, but these “little” things (anti-choice, anti-vaxx, right side political perspective, the way she exposes her children on the platform...) opened my eyes. Just because she loves them, it doesn’t mean she isn’t doing things that might not be good for them in the long run. It is very unfortunate and sad, but I do see it as truth.
I'm one of those people who had a child very young, struggled, and now have made a solid choice to never have more kids. I only have one so I always get the "when is the sibling coming"? Or "are you sure you dont want more"? And the infamous "You'll change your mind" 😫 Its very frustrating because I genuinely don't want to bring more kids into the world I cant adequately take care of. My first wasnt planned, so what do I look like forcing ANOTHER child to deal with my shortcomings. I hold enough shame and guilt as it is!
You're so brave! I think the greatest thing a person can do is to reflect on his/hers decisions and correctly assess how to move on while looking at past mistakes as learning opportunity. I also do not feel adequate in this point in my life to have children, maybe I'll never be. It's no one's business but my own.
@@redhotmcr thanks so much! I really appreciate that! I try to be as self aware as possible, to hopefully be better in the future for my son's sake if nothing else. I applaud you for knowing what you are or arent ready for. Its definitely a decision that deserves great thought and preperation, and I wish I knew that then the way I know that now.
Mother to an only child here. I get the questions about siblings a lot... it can become really exhausting and sometimes the aggressiveness becomes offensive. My child wasn't quite planned, we got pregnant about a year earlier than anticipated. A pleasant surprise for us. My husband and I are both only children ourselves, and we planned to stop at 1. We can financially support one child very well, but wouldn't be able to do right financially by two children. It's the right choice for us and for our child. It sounds like you are making the right choice for you and your child as well, and I support you. Stay strong!! ♡
She liked a post on instagram by alliebstuckey indicating that only pro-lifers give charity, adopt, foster children, and help moms in crisis. smh she's the worst
Q B so you understand most times in foster care children are molested, abused, and neglected? If not, maybe you should do some research. Most kids (not all) who age out of foster care are either homeless, addicts or dead within the first two years.
My mom's a nurse and she has seen so much. I remember when she told me how we both almost died when she gave birth to me. She told me "A woman giving birth is always between life and death."
I just can't with this woman anymore, I'm sure her family is happy but I wish she would realize that not everyone lives (or wants to live) on Maui, not everyone has been in a committed, stable relationship since they were 15, not everyone can afford or wants to have four kids and not everyone can support their family on their partners salary and a youtube career.... she is ridiculously privileged and completely oblivious.
@@0xstev3 I don't think anyone is mad at her for the kind of life she has, you can be privileged but still be wary of other people's misfortune. Empathy is free
@@juliap9632 Insecure people hate successful happy people, and it's so gross to see. Crabs in a bucket. She's not talking any shit on poor people at all
@@singingbear8768 Except they don't... At least not in all vaccines. The mercury containing compound used in some vaccines is thimerosal. Thimerosal is mainly used is multi-dose vials of flu vaccines for conservation purposes (it keeps fungi and bacteria from growing in the vials). As per the CDC's statements, apart from flu vaccines, which not all children get, very few childhood vaccines contain thimerosal, and those which do (DTaP and DTaP-Hib combination vaccine) contain trace amounts. Also, it is important to note that there is a difference between thimerosal, which is broken down into ethylmercury in the body, and methylmercury, which is a mercury compound found in the environment, and known for its toxicity. Methylmercury is the compound associated with toxicity potential from dietary intake (mainly fish and other marine animals) and most other mercury related hazards. As for fetal cells, vaccines themselves do not contain fetal cells. Cells are mostly used to multiply pathogens such as viruses and strict intracellular bacteria because they otherwise cannot grow in vitro. These pathogens need to be multiplied because they are (or more likely, their antigens) necessary for the production of the vaccine itself. If anything, vaccines contain bacterial cells or viruses, and not fetal cells. The cells are merely used as a medium to promote pathogen growth, in the same way you would use an agar plate to multiply regular bacteria. Furthermore, the cells used are not extracted from foetuses on the daily. The cells used in labs are grown in vitro, from what is known as immortalized cell lines - cells that can grow and divide through mitosis indefinitely. Most of the cell lines currently used have been used for several decades, and simply come from vials; there is no need to extract them from foetuses (which would actually be far more complicated anyway). Just saying ;)
@@meganepelletier853 holy shit even I saw that saying they put aborted fetuses in vaccines was a joke 😆. Or at least I really hope it was, coming from this channel.
Thanks for this. I’m unfollowing Ellen on CZcams and Instagram. Not interested in giving a trump loving, anti immigrant, privileged woman more validation.
I was in my final semester of the University when I found out I was pregnant. I did those last 3 months while violently ill. I lost 23 pounds in my first trimester due to severe morning sickness, all while doing final exams. When I left school I needed to get a job immediately so I could get the 600 hours I need to qualify for maternity leave (a privilege that is not available in all countries). My point is, it was INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT. It, at times, felt physically impossible. That is not something I would wish on anyone who didnt choose that for themself. To top it all off, my delivery was very complicated and I needed almost all of the interventions. When my daughter was born she had seizures and spent a week in the NICU. I am so grateful that I'm Canadian and that stay was covered by Healthcare but I can't even imagine how much that would cost in the states. I guarantee you we couldn't afford it. And all of that was for a pregnancy that was very much wanted. I cant imagine going through everything I did with an unwanted pregnancy
I'm in the US so I read this while thinking about how expensive this would have been here. Is like $3000 USD for a completely normal baby and 3 days room and board
Angie it depends where u r (which state) and what kind of insurance u have. Mine, with a good insurance was several thousands. My friend, without insurance cost her around 20 k.
I don't know why somw ppl are still stupid enough in the States to think they have to pay for healthcare. We have the State Department of Health, and we are provided with free or extremely low cost health insurance. There are many places you can give birth for free, even if you get a bill, that doesn't mean you necessarily have to pay it. They make you think that but you actually don't. I got sent so many medical bills that I fought and told them should be covered. Ppl will try to get a dollar out of you any chance they get. They capitalize on ignorance. If you know your laws and resources you won't fall into it.
Idk if Swayze will see this or care, but I always make an effort to watch all of the ads all of the way through. Having a mom who is also self-employed, I can understand that its difficult sometimes. I'm proud of her for supporting her beautiful family with good, level-headed, logical content, and not using clickbait, not gaslighting, etc. She deserves it. Thank you for making great content, Swayze!
She is, though she does push the natural family planning thing and has been sponsored by "all natural" birth control apps (some weird device that tracks periods and ovulation somehow??)
@@evab.6240 Thank you..! Luckily I don't feel any pressure, even my parents are aware and very understanding and lovely about it if it doesn't come to having kids/a kid. I even told my boyfriend in the beginning from our relationship (7 yrs ago) that I'm the kind of person who sees herself without kids, and we decided that our life toghether is good as it is. Every now and then, we check up on each other if we still are both on one line though.
In a digital and irl social sea of women, especially mothers, telling me “just you wait, you’ll definitely change your mind about not wanting kids” you’re the most nuanced and respectful woman and mother I’ve heard address this. Thank you for that dose of nuanced perspective. Edit: I'm LIVING for these awesome comments.
I HATE when mothers say this to other women. You have NO clue what brought about that decision. My brother and his girlfriend have been together since 6th grade, they are in their early 20's now. They are constantly harrassed by her family. Children are not a goal. They are a choice. And that choice is not for everyone. My other brother is Gay. No one bugs him about not making children. It's stupid. People really need to stay in their own lane.
@Karoline Vildlyng I completely agree! I have always hated it when older women would tell me that "I would change my mind", or that "I'd grow out of my not-wanting-children phase". It is so inappropriate, and I really don't understand how these women think that this is acceptable. I knew I never wanted to have children or be a mother. I knew this just as strongly at 14 years old as I do now, at 31 years old.
Karoline Vildlyng I heard it constantly until about a year ago when I turned 36. Seems like that’s the magic number and my ticking womb has apparently expired in the minds of others. 🤷♀️ Now I hear “Ah, yes, well everyone has to make up their own minds about having kids,” and while I like not having the pressure anymore, I think about how helpful it would have been to hear that all along.
I hate constantly getting this. I don't want Kids and don't see this changing. Also I'm suuuper terrified of pregnancy so even if i would somehow, at some point change my mind.. it would definitly be an adoption
As a german citizen it always shocks me to hear how extremly overpriced your healthcare is. Like, I pay a 100€ a month for my insurance (wich everyone can have) and if I were to have a baby the only thing that would cost me would be a private midwife that does housecalls. It's terrible how backwards the US is....
As an American citizen, it always shocks me that Germany is NOT free country, as freedom of speech does not exist there... you still have a problem with fascism, only now it's masquerading itself as progressiveness.
@@leastallwitz2760 Oh you do have freedom of speech? Then why do you have hate speech laws? How exactly do you figure that you have freedom of speech, when what a person is and isn't allowed to say, is regulated by the government? There are fascists EVERYWHERE, all over the world - but our government is not fascist. YOURS is. That's the difference.
Privileged Ellen Fisher has lived too sheltered of a life to grasp the experiences of unprivileged, scared and desperate pregnant women. I wonder what her response would be if I had the opportunity to tell her of my experience. It was 1983. I was 19, very low income, with my boyfriend for about a year when I became pregnant, living with my two older sisters. He didn’t want the baby. I didn’t want an abortion. My oldest sister was furious with me. My second oldest sister was unsupportive. A woman at work knew of a couple who were looking to adopt. Another co-worker’s parents were willing to take me in so that I could keep the baby. My oldest sister physically assaulted me when the prospective adoptive parents’ lawyer called me. My boyfriend threatened my life by saying that his dad’s friends would find me wherever I went. They would find me, hurt me, kill me, to spare the family the shame of an out-of-wedlock pregnancy. I was terrified and blamed myself for causing upheaval in my family and my boyfriend’s family. I had no money to raise a child and didn’t know anything about public assistance. I was terrified of being killed by my boyfriend’s father’s mobster friends. I could’nt see how I would be able to take care of a child, At 10 weeks of gestation, I went through with the abortion. I immediately felt empty and lost. Neither my sisters nor my boyfriend offered comfort. I became depressed. I resented my boyfriend and broke up with him a year later. I lost respect and trust for my sisters. Our relationship never recovered. My oldest sister chastised me for the abortion as if she had no part in it. I had guilt and nightmares for many years afterwards. I longed for that child although I had three live births. I don’t think Ellen would believe that my family pressured me and even assaulted me. I don’t think that she would believe that my boyfriend was unsupportive and that his father threatened my life. I don’t think she would be able to comprehend my fears and why I felt that I had no other choices. I don’t think she would believe that, although I went through with the abortion, I grieved for many years and still feel loss. She has too limited of life experience, immature emotional intelligence,
Here's another concept: kids are OPTIONAL. In the states it can be very difficult to stay childfree because voluntary sterilization is rarely approved. It took me 10 doctors to find one who would finally sterilize me. It's okay to not have kids. It's okay to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. Babies are not all that - they are expensive, they are work, and they are not meant for everyone. People like Ellen make me so angry.
Anna K years ago I had a family member who almost died in childbirth and was told to never get pregnant again. She still had to fight to find a dr to tie her tubes because she was “too young”.
Anna K so maddening! I love my children and having them was the best choice for my family. But! Being a mother is hard work and nobody should be forced into it!
I'm struggling with this right now! I wholeheartedly do not want children and neither does my husband. I want to be sterilized but it's so difficult to get approved.
YES to this video. I saw her post and immediately commented that while i respect her opinion, I hope she understands that a ban on abortions would never apply to those who can afford them! Rich people will always be able to afford safe abortions- it's the poor underprivileged communities that will be impacted the most. She never answered my question, but I asked - why do people want less government control (aka taxes, VACCINES, drugs, etc) in every area of our lives except this one?
I also wanted to open up a respectful discussion about abortions vs unplugging a loved one. Why do we determine death by our brain activity but life by a heartbeat? Is someone who pulls the plug on a loved one also a "killer" or "murderer" because technically there was a heartbeat? If a fetus is in fact seen as a living human being by law, will the law change so that the unborn child can be supported by life insurance and health care before it is born (currently that is not the case)?
I love the point you made about people not wanting kids and people not respecting that. I have never ever wanted children ever. A couple of years back I started to develop or rather, finally had diagnosed many reproductive issues and a hysterectomy would solve many of those very painful issues but my gyno flats refuses too "just incase" I change my mind. I'M FORTY!It's frustrating and also insulting that people (particularly men) assume that, because you're a woman you pine for children. The world needs to wake up. As does this intensely privileged woman who is obviously very out of touch with many peoples reality.
This!! I find it so weird when people ask when my partner and I are going to have kids. You’re essentially asking “so when are you guys going to start having unprotected sex?” . My dad gave me the hardest time about having kids when my sister got pregnant. Every phone call he’d ask when I was going to have one and every time I’d say I don’t want kids. Not listening to the last twenty times I said it. I also have reproductive issues and it’s very painful. I’ve asked for a parcial hysterectomy so many times, and my OBGYN was like “good luck getting that”. I already have a life partner and they’re sterilized so if my partner maybe wanting one in the future you already have the answer. Also, my partner was able to call his doctor and two weeks later was sterilized. No fighting it, no having to find “medical necessity”, no being told “what if...”.
would you be willing to do a response video to Alyse's 30 day carnivore diet? Maybe address her tendency towards extremes (which she acknowledges, but spins it into a good thing)
I know someone who was in the foster care system.for years and she was abused for years. She NEVER recovered from the trauma. Ellen needs to talk to THOSE people.
Thank you so, so, so much for making a video about this. I was a fan of Ellen Fisher for years, but after seeing this post which led me to learn more about her anti-vax and pro-Trump views, I simply could no longer support her in good conscience. Your two other videos about her were also very informative and helpful in helping me realize that she is not informed and not educated on some very important topics. I truly believe that her recent post as well as her other positions are the reasons people are critical of vegans and view them as entitled, privileged, and out of touch. Again, thank you so much for your rational, calm, and accurate response. You’re the BEST!
addie she follows a lot of pro Trump, anti-immigrant/migrant, conservative folks, plus her husband Andrew has liked a bunch of pro Trump/Trump family stuff. And as Swayze explains in the video, she promotes very conservative writings. She hasn’t posted anything specifically saying what her political beliefs are, but I think that’s just because if she did, she would lose a lot of her followers. To be perfectly honest, it wasn’t her pro-life stance that turned me off - it was finding out about everything else.
Amy Costanzo Same I was turned off at the fact that her and her husband are Trump supporters. And than her comment that because she supports JoyVilla makes her a supporter or WOC! Gross!
raquel cervantes Yeah, very disappointing to see her true colors. But hey, at least we know! As GI Joe said, now you know and knowing is half the battle!
moths from neptune omg I know....ohhhhhhh the irony of a rich, white, straight, cis, Christian, healthy, American, vegan, PRIVILEGED IN EVERY WAY woman living on violently colonized land posting passive aggressive anti-choice messages that shame others who are not exactly like her. Yes, she is CANCELLED.
They charged me for my stay when I gave birth and for my son's stay separately. His bill alone was over $8,000. I had to take an ambulance to the hospital and was charged $6,500, mind you I declined the IV and had no medications in the ambulance. My hospital bill was over $10,000. Thankfully my insurance covered all of it, but it's insane to think that some women don't have insurance at all and would have to pay the full amount out of pocket or even people with good insurance would still have to pay 20% or more of those bills. I wouldn't get an abortion myself unless it was medically necessary but it is not my place to tell other women that they can't and i don't even want to imagine the trauma the woman has to go through.
Semi that’s a pretty common price for an ambulance ride in the US. I’ve heard most insurance policies don’t cover them. One time a family member fell and couldn’t stand up. We called 911 and firefighters came to our house in a fire truck and helped us get her into the car. They said they could send an ambulance but it would be super expensive. Luckily, they were able To help us because the fire station was down the street but a lot of people don’t have that help and have to pay.
@@TheAllyKay oO In Germany we have to pay 10€/Ride and Day in the hospital. No more than 200€/Year. And even that is called "expensive" and is strongly discussed... quite a privilege to live in a country with nearly free healthcare...
You totally encapsulated my feelings when I read Ellen’s post. The bottom line is that if you don’t center the least privileged, the most marginalized, and the most disadvantaged in your moral views/policy making you are missing the point and are bound to perpetuate these cycles of shame/poverty/etc. Thanks for always making such well-researched and academically responsible videos!
When you started talking about the small fishing village example all I could think of was Ellen's sister Hannah and her stupid "food desert" solution. The entire family seems to have never faced difficult decisions that many in poverty face, and their empathy is virtually nonexistent for real full grown humans.
Thank you for talking about this! This absolutely pissed me off when I saw it 😡 being pro-life and anti-vax is a bit of a oxymoron if you ask me 🤷🏻♀️ I also hate the “adoption” argument (especially from these ignorant people that have never/never will adopt a child). My family was a foster family for a number of years. We offered a home to these children that were in need of a stable environment. The system is messy and terrible. I wouldn’t wish it upon any child. “Adoption” isn’t ~always~ glitter and sunshine like they like to pretend it is.
Karissa Domin and during the 1960s Rubella outbreak 11,000 pregnant women lost their babies, 2,100 newborns died, and 20,000 babies were born with birth defects. Seems pretty pro life to me 🧐 And actually, the same fetal cells collected in the 1960 are still the same we use today. No further fetal cells are needed to make these vaccines. So that’s a moot point.
You think producing a continuous cell line from the 60s is a good idea? DNA can fragment ect. Since there is 0 testing for mutagenic issues, it is quite possible it is causing harm. Ive studied insertional mutagenesis for stem cell research, and it is absolutely possible this is occuring via biologics. It could explain the rise in autoimmune and mental disorders.
I always referred to myself as pro life, but after watching this I've realized that I am actually pro choice and anti abortion. Nobody is ever going to convince me that a fetus isn't human, but I still think abortion needs to be legal and available to those who need it. Thank you for explaining so well!
prevention and adoption or so much better then stopping the heart of a precious innocent baby whose heart beats inside his or her mother’s womb where the baby should be the safest
Also hasn't she seen the graph where not having another child is the best thing you can do for the environment. Like better than all the other things combined?
I didn’t realize there were no other ways to avoid having children! That’s so crazy. Could’ve sworn there were other methods to avoid that. I guess not🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
I am so privileged that when I found I was pregnant with my third son, only 6 weeks after the birth of my second, I didn't have to make a choice I didn't want to make. A choice that i really feel I would have struggled to heal from. I live in the UK; childbirth costs are non existent, financial support for childcare was available (less so now, I admit) and I had a loving husband and we were able for me to only work part time and still survive and a supportive family who were able to help with chilcare. Honestly, even with all of that, it was rough. Two babies and a five year old. No spare cash, no spare energy and complex pregnancies. I would not have been able to do it without all of the help I had. I get, almost irrationally, angry with women in situations like mine, or better, that expend their energy telling women less privileged and less fortunate what they should be doing with their bodies or how they should cope with these things. It's funny that the ones who want to end abortion are also never keen on taking steps to help women care for the babies when they arrive. Once they're here, bithe mother and baby are considered a drain. It's sad. Really sad.
Ellen Fishers channel drives me up the wall! I saw you can pay on her website to watch a video on the day she found out she was pregnant. it’s pretty silly really. Sorry just a little vent 😂😂😂
Interesting. I’ve been sussing out the people that she follows on social media (extreme conservatives like Candace Owens, Lila Rose, and “Vax Freedom”) and she’s VERY active on hard right pages/posts in terms of regular likes and comments. I was always wondering when this side of her would be exposed! Her true colors are showing. She’s an “aggressively orange valley rich conservative who never stepped out of the bubble” wolf in “free-loving hippie” sheep’s clothing.
Tendai Mabingani thats weird that she’s anti-vax, most conservatives I follow are very against the anti-vaccine movement. Seeing that they put others in danger.
I don’t think you’ve unveiled or disclosed any major secrets here ... I think Ellen simply lives according to her morals, I don’t think she is trying to hide anything, especially not from some leftist dummy with a massive inferiority complex that won’t miss a chance to virtue signal in a frequent and desperate attempt of getting some kind of validation from other fellow low iq SJWs, Oh and before you start typing your standard victim mentality and oppression excuse, I’m not white !
@@rachelbowlow9925 based on the tone of her videos, i think shes anti-vax because she believes on the concept that "chemicals used to create the vax" like mercury for example is dangerous. I checked out some of the arguments that anti-vaxxers have and it's align with most of her philosophy. I cant really support anyone whos anti vax. It's so sad since i follow her in IG and YT and used to be amazed with her videos and fam.
I absolutely love what you said about being pro-choice and antiabortion at the same time. The idea of abortion is horrifying to me however it’s no one else’s business except for the woman. It should absolutely be legalized.
Nika NH exactly. I would never want to have to get an abortion which is why I take steps to prevent pregnancy, but if something were to happen I absolutely would get an abortion. But that doesn’t mean I’m pro abortion
Danielle D mostly the whole medical process especially if it’s an abortion happening later throughout the pregnancy. Also I assume it’s a decision that most women don’t make lightly.. People don’t understand that it takes a lot of courage to actually make the decision of ending a life when it’s in utero.
Nika NH I agree with you. Abortion can be very hard on women, even years later, and the process of abortion is horrifying, especially in the later stages. I asked that because if you really do think abortion is horrifying, don’t you think we can do better as a society for the women struggling with unwanted pregnancies than abortion?
I’m in Australia and I literally did not spend any money to have my baby. All the care before and during birth was covered. This was in a public hospital, and it does cost thousands to have a baby in a private hospital, however the care you get in public hospitals here is amazing 🤷♀️
Adoption?...as if caring for a life for 9 whole months and the just placing the child for adoption is just an easy choice for a woman....its not and it hurts just as much! woman in our lifetimes go through so many painful things and smile doesn't mean we aren't hurting.
Frankly, even if there are people that are having 10+ abortions, I still respect their right to make that choice for themselves. Abortion is an inalienable human right!
Exactly. I once met a woman who's had 5 abortions (and has 3 kids - wanted more but couldn't because of serious health complications). The first two were because she didn't want to bring children into abusive relationships in her teens (try accessing contraception when you grow up in small religious towns with abusive family), the third was for a planned pregnancy that unfortunately couldn't be carried to term, and the last two were while she was on multiple forms of birth control. Everyonyes story is their own, and everyone deserves access to abortion because at the end of the day it's part of family planning and health care.
This is such an important message. I had an abortion 2 years ago and it was one of the hardest things I ever had to do but as much as a small part of me regrets it, a larger part knows it was the right choice. In the end, we all have the choice to do with our bodies what we want. I really appreciate you addressing this and saying the bare bones of this argument for people, which is. step out of yourself and actually put yourself in someone's shoes before passing judgement. Thanks Swayze! P.S.: You should check out Jenny Mustard. She's a vegan youtuber with great what I eat in a day's.
@@ellamaeve4791 do you know the definition of harassment? This is a public platform where you post comments and opinions. You post something expect to get a response. Get over it
Havent you learned not to compare Europe to the USA? Same with cimate change... idk I think it has to do with religion. In most European countries hardly anyone voices Christian Beliefs when it comes to politics... The USA just isnt there yet...
For the record. Most children don’t get adopted. Most kids get trapped in the system and end up getting abused and raped or even killed. There was a case where a family adopted a child from Africa and trafficked her for her organs
I remember a german documentary which showed that adopted children can be „rehomed“ wich basically means that you can write a paper and give it to a stranger without legal consequences. There was even a platform in the internet to give the children away. One woman wrote something like that: Asian boy from Taiwan. 4 years old, big ears and feet. Disobedient. Some children had to dig their own graves or were raped over and over again by known child molesters. In an other case a ten year old boy was sent back to Russia, that is why Americans can’t adopt children in Russia and Ghana.
I’m surprised people are surprised at this. Ellen and her husband have been dropping clues for a while now that they’re main concern is THEM. Not other people.
I supported her soo many years and I was even „on her side“ after your videos about her. Now I am glad you made this videos and today, I unfollowed her. I‘m not okay with the fact that she’s „pro life“ or anti vaccination. No matter how beautiful her videos are, what she’s doing is not okay.
This is one of the first videos I’ve watched by you that I have agreed with almost 100 percent. I live in Hawai’i and have been a huge Ellen Fisher fan, and normally feel very aligned with her, but I can’t believe she is quoting Ann Rynd (a known sociopath) and talking about pro-life. Thank you for doing this video. Thank you for speaking up for all women’s rights. Nicely done. I have a new respect for you. I appreciate any woman who speaks up for other women.
my view's always been that if you're not willing and able to pay for the expenses and take care of the child once it's born you shouldn't feel entitled to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body and pregnancy
And I thought I loved you before this video!!! THANK YOU for making this!! I'm a midwife in an FQHC in a major US city and I couldn't agree with you more. Everything you said is spot on. This is true feminism right here. I am pro woman, period. First and foremost. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Thank you.
Thanks for making this .. as someone who has had an abortion, seeing Ellen’s post was so hurtful to me. When I found out I was pregnant my world shattered. I saw the price of an abortion and had no idea how I would accumulate the money in time, and the price would still only increase every week I was pregnant. I tried starving myself to kill the baby but then read that this would sooner kill me than the baby. Eventually my angel best friend offered to pay for my abortion, but I knew I was so lucky for this... still the feeling of shame and stupidity and worthlessness followed me for months after my abortion. To think of Ellen in her comfortable home writing about the beauty of the unborn baby and a mother’s bond.... I don’t know why I was so shocked, based on her other uneducated stances. Her ignorance is stunning. It’s too bad she homeschools her children.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I think the option should be safe and free for anyone that needs it. It's a necessary medical procedure for many and should be considered part of the women's health umbrella.
I had one 3 years ago and looking back I realize I was soooo lucky/privileged to have had the savings to cover mine as well as the time to take off work to travel 2 hours out of town to BOTH appointments. I also couldn't drive myself at the time and was fortunate to have someone drive me. I remember they tried to see if I could get financial assistance and I made too much even though I was technically 'lower class'/poor. If anything had fallen out of place- if I wasn't allowed to call off a specific day and time, if I was $100 short, if no one could have given me a ride- I'd have been screwed.
I'm a woman who does not want to have children, for several reasons, but the main one is I'm not fit to be a mother. Thank you for acknowledging that attitude and seeing the positive side of it. So many people have kids and treat them horribly. At 30 years old I know myself, I'm often lazy and selfish, I value my alone time and piece of mind above anything else, I have very little patience. It's foolish to assume that would magically change after giving birth. Adoption isn't a magical cure either. It's often not an easy thing to do, legally speaking, as well as biologically! After giving birth the brain releases hormone(s) to make a woman feel the need to take care of the baby, watch over him/her, etc. Because of that it's really hard for the woman to part with her baby post-labor and might influence her ability to make an informed decision about keeping the baby. As the result that woman might not want to give the child for abortion after all and regret it later on. Or what about all those cases where being pregnant is literally a threat to woman's life or health? What good will make bringing another person into this world when you - the mother - are severely disabled or dead as the result? Pro-choice all the way.
I think you're very wise. I know what it feels like to be unwanted as a child and I think everyone who knows that before having a child and chooses not to become a parent is very responsible. And apart from that, anything but pro choice is simply insane anyway
i'm adopted. my bio mom was a teen mother -- she had me when she was 16 -- and she had problems conceiving later in life. she struggled to get pregnant w her husband. even if the pregnancy and delivery goes smoothly, it doesn't mean it will always be that way.
About the bit in which you talk about not wanting children when young,I've talked to 7 OBGYNs about wanting to prevent pregnancy permanently which I knew was gonna be hard since I was young and childless when I first started asking,but at this point is just ridiculous how "family centered" the medical system can be. I appealed to being sick in agony with two heredatory diseases since childhood (eugenics appealed called where I live) and I was not approved for the surgery. At this point,it's been years since I've had sex more than five times a year in fear the condom would break and I was put at risk of becoming pregnant. My body can not handle pregnancy,yet what I was told over and over is that I could be monitored during my pregnancy,hospitalized and cared for.... Why would I want to put myself through that? Risk my life and risking becoming crippled just so I don't regret not passing on my defective genes? I get "young" people make dumb choices sometimes,but holy shit,wish I could be granted some control over my life
The Doctor I work for asks his patients to write an essay 😊 gives tangible proof that the patient has taken it seriously and would like to move forward. Maybe try offering that idea to your doctor!
I’ve had to unfollow Ellen. She seems like a sweetheart, but I just can’t follow these ‘ideal’ families anymore. Her Insta portrays the sort of blissful ideal that the rest of us can only dream of…4 perfect blond, well behaved children, beautiful house in the most dreamy tropical idil, perfect handsome and doting husband/father. Exotic fruit just falling off the trees in her backyard, plenty of money to afford the finest and freshest organic food…and of course she is gifted with the most amazing beauty, toned, tall, slim and tanned She lives type of blessed and rarified existence that 99.9 % of us do not. Good luck to her. I’m just interested to see what her views on abortion would be if she were a poor, a single mother, living pay cheque to pay cheque in a grotty apartment in a rough city.
This is so disappointing.. I’ve started watching Ellen again recently- and I felt like she was eating a more balanced diet and they were doing a lot better. But now of course there is another controversy :// I’m all about giving second chances and allowing ppl to grow, but it’s getting really hard to support Ellen
Yes, from what she shows the kid's seem to be eating a more varied and balanced diet. Especially the little girl, because when her second was that age it seemed like all he ate was avocado, bananas and breast milk.
Walrus Latte but the thing is- that’s it’s just not just watching. By watching I’m also supporting her channel- and idk if I can support someone who believes those things
The sad thing is, Ellen has such privilege she wouldn't even understand the points made in this video. I wish Ellen Fisher and her family no ill will, but they live in a bubble. You can not have a honest discussion with some one who is detached.
I have a friend who was driven out of a child loss group. She had hyperemesis from week 6 to 15. She was hospitalized at week 10 and the meds, feeding tube etc did not work and her kidneys started to shut down. She was told terminating wouls really be in her best interest. Literally a choice between her own baby or her life. She had a 5 year old at home abd a husband who was devastated because this was a planned baby. She terminated and was open about it and was shunned and ridiculed by people online who would declare that they would have died before killing their child. It still makes me angry.
I had my daughter as a single mother from the moment of conception. It was incredibly difficult in the following 4.5 years as I became mentally unwell, was financially unstable and lost both of my jobs and had to quit studying and my lifestyle in general. It took such a toll on me that I know I can confidently say there is no way I could have another child without very specific circumstances. The risk for postnatal depression relapse during secondary pregnancies is so high and that isn't good for mother, family, the first child or baby. People need choices so they can raise healthy and happy babies/children. I wish this was more recognised.
honestly I can't believe they're having a 4th child. It's as though they really don't believe science is legitimate, that the world is becoming so horribly overpopulated.
Tell that to the women in West Africa who are popping out dozens of kids as if it’s some kind of investment for the future and not for their intrinsic value as humans, knowing that they can’t afford them, selfishly choosing culture and ego over birth control made available by foreign aid! Even you are sure that Ellen will smother her children in love and do her absolute best meet their needs so they can flourish and become the best versions of themselves which will ultimately add value to our society, or is it a different standard for different people ?
As soon as I saw her post, I unfollowed and told the person next to me “wow. This blows, BUT I can’t wait for unnatural vegan’s video on this.” It’s just ridiculous that a woman in her thirties who makes a living off the internet where there is endless information has the same basic thinking on this subject as I did in the FIFTH GRADE. She is a white vegan living in a giant house taking up tons of land on a (stolen) island where 42% of the homeless population is Native while only 10% of the population is Native. Who STILL can’t and won’t acknowledge her privilege. Not everyone can have a physically, mentally, or financially safe pregnancy. not everyone wants one either and no one should be forced or pressured into almost a year of an inherently invasive, expensive, and dangerous experience. I followed Ellen for her gentle parenting tips but have been real iffy on her for a while AND SHE JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE
I am 39 and I've never wanted children. I LOVE children, I'm not some crazy child hater, I just never wanted a child for even a second of my entire life. But I understand that I am not the norm and that having children is an aspiration for most people and a life changing experience for them when they do, if they are able to. But I've always gotten quite a bit of flack for not wanting kids. But what I think about the most is my grandma. When I was in my twenties I was talking about not wanting kids and how annoyed I was by people telling me that I was selfish or that I was going to change my mind. My grandma told me that if she were born when I was she would have never had children (she had two, my mom and my uncle). Although she loved and loves her children dearly, she never wanted them. She not only did not want them, she wasn't in a proper position to take care of them, emotionally or financially. She lived in an era where abortion was out of the question, having children was a must and women were shamed for everything: having children, not having them, having a career, not having one, being divorced, etc. Although I have been judged EXTREMELY for not wanting children, at least I have the choice. How many woman were or are like my grandma, who had children they never wanted out of pressure and shame? What person thinks it is morally better to shame and pressure a woman who doesn't want children and is unable to care for them to have them yet shun abortion? Only psychopaths are pro abortion. It isn't a choice anyone wants to make.
I outgrew Ellen a while ago, she used to be my favorite CZcamsr :( then once she made the patron and started putting her “better videos” on there I unsubscribed. Sucks when it becomes all about the money once CZcamsrs get bigger. The biggest shock was Raw Alignment tho but that’s another story
I stopped watching when I realised she disabled the comments too! To me, that was suspicious and to me it shows she’s not as inclusive as she claims 🤷🏾♀️
Randi BOMB Are you sure? I saw so many family channels’ comments are disabled.. including mine😱 sometimes it turns on, but turns off automatically few hours later.
I always had a feeling they were super conservative, especially with the way she talked about Christianity and the way her and her husband "saved themselves for marriage" and how that's always the best way. I've also seen her sister post quick snippets of her reading articles on trump in her videos. I've never been able to wrap my head around people who claim that they are a voice for the animals, but support a man who hates and degrades human beings.
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Glad you still talked about it. I've never wanted kids and the thought of being forced to go through a pregnancy because of an accident (or worse..) just sounds like my worst nightmare, even though I'm financially stable and live in a country with a good health care system.
@Mona Budblue what?
Mona Budblue Can you leave
Ellen MOVED to a stolen island where poverty is SO bad and where NATIVE HAWAIIANS are 10% of the population due to extremely recent colonialism yet they are 42% of the homeless population
And she moved to their island to eat their food in abundance, to not work, to take acres of land from them, to walk by the native homeless and struggling day after day and not use her platform a SINGLE TIME to talk about the struggles of natives THAT SHE IS CHOOSING TO CONTRIBUTE TO.
She’s made multiple videos about how much she loves living in Hawaii and how GREAT her life is but she can’t even stop to say “I have this while other people don’t and I contribute to that”
And THEN she denies her excessive privilege and claims that no one is experiencing enough mental, physical, or financial hardship to decide not to be pregnant. Which is inherently invasive and dangerous and expensive.
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And has the nerve to talk about her and her husband becoming sustainable and living off THEIR land.
Wow I can't believe I used to watch her...nothing wrong with living in Hawaii or even visiting it but she's obviously in it for herself and the clout. Doesn't even matter if she's vegan/lives a sustainable life, from what I know/seen she hasn't helped her fellow community in anyway. All I see on her instagram are neatly manicured pictures..great comment btw
I’m getting tired of privileged people deciding what less privileged people should do with their bodies and lives.
Preach
Haha I love how you assume those getting abortions arent privledged 🤣 ummm even celebrities get abortions 🙄. Nice stereotyping and racism. I'm sure you assume they are beneath you too right. You prob think they are all poor, on food stamps, and uneducated too right? I've seen that rebuttal plenty of times
Kayla Austin - 🙄Get over yourself.
By deciding what an entire population can do, they are also deciding what less privileged people can do. Duh.
I’m a minority btw. Good on you for making assumptions. 👍🏿
@@Amandahugginkizz YOUR COMMENT ! THANK YOU! Pro-abortion people are the most condescending people on the planet
Danielle Ehresman Unborn babies don’t get special rights, they don’t get to use someone else’s body against their consent.
The irony in how she can sympathize with animals but not with real women is almost comical
This sometimes appears to be a theme with extreme vegans. Human lives don't matter, but care about the animals
She can relate with real women. Baby girls are being killed daily because of abortion so yea she can sympathize with innocent babies being killed
Considering that company that she got over $23,000 in free furniture from sells large amounts of leather furniture, you can she's mainly just in it for profit.
Isn’t that something...
@@meanpoutine7095 If you are relating to babies, I guess you mean it takes place after birth, like in some development countries?
I love how you use "Partner," "Toddler," and "Tiny Baby" like they're people's actual names. It makes me smile.
She said she wouldn’t say what her kids’ genders were but I always assumed they were both male. Is that sexist?
@@themagicknightress7132 It does technically mean you have a bias, but the good thing is that you recognize it, and therefore you can change it. :-)
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm pro choice for any situation. Even if the parents are in a long term monogamous relationship with plenty of money and resources I still believe in their right to terminate the pregnancy if that's what's right for them. No amount of legislation or guilt tripping should change that. you have a right to choose whether you expand your family or not regardless of how good or bad your situation may be. I guess I am pro abortion hahah
I don't think that is a very unpopular opinion, depending on where you are/who you are asking. In Western Europe, where I am from, people in these exact circumstances absolutely reserve the right to abort and people would mostly support or at least accept it. The stress on the body on the pregnant person is so underrepresented in this conversation. It is hard and dangerous and if you are at a tough physical spot right now, you should have the right and the option to not do it. My mum was a tiny woman and suffered the rest of her life from having me.
Exactly. Imagine being an unwanted child
Here in Germany most people are pro choice, althhough the politics is making it a bit harder (there is a lawthat forbids doctors of informing patients that they offer abortion)....
Completely agreed.
im 100% with you on that
It’s crazy that she doesn’t get it and she lives on Maui: that island has so much homeless and poverty stricken people. When I visited a few years ago we even heard radio messages about programs funded by the state for grandparents raising their grandchildren because it’s such a huge issue there.
Sydni Phillips i live in hawaii and unfortunately many priviliged and wealthy people are almost oblivious to poverty, homelessness, and native issues. it’s horrible that the islands are only seen as “paradise” and no one is shown the ugly side of life here
Sydni Phillips it’s so expensive there is why
because she lives in her disneyland bubble where she hangs out with people similar to her: white, rich and pretty.
Lmao exactly I got into it with Ellen one time on Instagram because I said she should include people of color in her “circle” who are the actual people who have built the community she now lives in, harvests the food she eats, built the roads she drives in etc. she got SO DEFENSIVE and went in my DMs defending herself. It was hilarious.
Omg I just re read my messages with Ellen
She said some ridiculous stuff including this about native Hawaiians :
I got some comments of people saying that native Hawaiians do not have the same opportunity for success as white people here in Hawaii. That could not be further from the truth. My native Hawaiian friends laugh at those type of comments, and some find that actually offensive. Native Hawaiians actually have MORE opportunity to success here- For example, only native Hawaiian are allowed to attend the high education/academic school, Kamehameha, and there are certain pristine areas of land that only native Hawaiians are allowed to purchase property on, at a very cheap price.
If she thinks adoption is so great, where are her adopted children?
I recall her saying that Scout was the last baby she was going to birth, and that they may adopt in the future. Well there goes that plan, assuming her natural family planning failed.
Your coming off as ignorant. People can support adoption whilst not adopting themselves.
I think transsexuals are the coolest thing ever, that doesnt mean I HAVE to marry one.
Rachel Right if you only talk about adoption in the context as an alternative to abortion because you don’t like abortions, then you don’t really support adoption.
@Mary's Mother HER body ceases to be hers alone when there is a baby in it. A human baby didn't choose a mother and father that that were going to kill them at 5 months by cutting them into peices, any more than a baby cow chose to be born into slavery and then cut into peices.
I was already pro choice before getting pregnant, right after delivery and now at 6 months postpartum I am fiercely pro choice because this shit isn't for everyone.
We love a growing and accepting bad bish!!! Hope motherhood is treating you beautifully 💜💜💜
It's extremely disturbing that you would be ok with women murdering human beings, when you have been pregnant, and had a child... One would hope that experience would endow you with empathy. Yeah man, this shit isn't for everyone. Kill people because they are inconvenient, or difficult... the experience of not murdering is not for everyone...
Syd Lane .... A fertilized egg isn’t a human lol.
@@SydLane 🤷♀️ oh well difference of opinions though I don't consider it murder.
@@coconutty6090 What species is it then?
I’ve heard stories where women would rather commit suicide than have to have a baby. I don’t know why the value of a fetus is seen as more important than a fully developed woman. And not to mention that CHILDREN can get pregnant...I’m 15 and even tho I have a period doesn’t mean I should have to GIVE BIRTH
björky she never disregards that fact, she simply states her own opinion about HER child and HER pregnancy, and then shares that with the world. If this were a post about her getting an abortion we’d all support her, why can’t we support her belief in life being valuable? People who don’t want to be pregnant are valid but other people should be able to express their feelings as well. It’s hypocritical to think otherwise.
@björky I agree! I've never understood why prioritization is given to the fetus over the woman whose already living 🤷🏻♀️
Yes, I'm one of those people. It's honestly heartbreaking and extremely terrifying the way access to abortions are becoming.
@@alicevanderlund3126 I'm sorry
@@MichelleMarieeTV it's because in a political climate like this, publicly stating that you're pro-life can have very real political consequences for women. i also wish it were as simple as "pro-choice, pro-life, just believe what you want to believe!" but it's not.
I’m so appreciative that you made this video. I had an abortion at 16 because my father told me to “get rid of it or I’ll get rid of it for you”. I was terrified of him. What would Ellen say about that? And why did she all of the sudden jump in this political train? I know she’s anti-vaxx, which bothers me in every way. But she lives i a fairytale world. She needs a reality check.
That's crazy. I'm sorry you had to go through that :/
Inês Fareleiro thank you for being kind, I am a far stronger person now than I was then. I will always lift women up and support their choices. We all deserve love, support and understanding, not shame.
I am so sorry you went through that. You should not need to feel guilt, and this is coming from a “conservative Christian.”
You didn’t have a choice. It was taken from you, and for that I’m sorry.
Lutheran Ninja I love Unnatural Vegans channel because of all of the open and science minded people here, and you are definitely a wonderful person for this comment. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, women are awesome and we need each other. ✌🏻
Tingle Tiger ASMR i think Ellen would have stood up for your right to not be forced into having an abortion. Being threatened by your abusive father doesn't mean abortion was the right choice for you, it means your father was evil and crazy. And I can't express how sorry I am for that. I think Ellen posted in response to the "a fetus is a clump of cells" rhetoric, not to demonize every woman who's ever had an abortion regardless of the context.
I told my mom when I was 6 that I didn't want kids. She said not to ever say that again because people will think I'm weird. I'm in my 30s now... still don't want kids. I love kids and they're cute and hilarious. Still do not want any.
casket rat I’m 34. No 2-legged kids. Enjoy my 4-legged ones. Was thinking about freezing my eggs, just in case, but don’t feel the urge to have kids.
I don't want kids either. Never have. I take precautions. But if I ended up pregnant, I wouldn't murder my baby. Everyone knows that having sex means you might get pregnant. Me not wanting a baby doesn't justify murder.
Im a woman of 43, never wanted kids, still dont want and won't have anymore.
casket rat I also have been telling my family since I was very small, like 4 yrs old, that I don’t want babies. Didn’t even turn on my baby annabelle lol. If I was to fall pregnant I would have an abortion. I have health complications that add to that decision but I know I wouldn’t be a good mother and pregnancy isn’t something I want. Fingers crossed my ablation works!
@@SydLane people like you say all this shit but I'm sure you'd make the man also be responsible, right?
oh wait, you wont, because to people like you think woman magically get themselves pregnant and men aren't responsible at all.
If she thinks adoption is so great why has she had more children of her own and not adopted babies instead...
The fact Ellen is pro forced birth and also anti vax would actually be laughable if it wasn’t so harmful 😂
LMAO "forced birth"... that's a good one. When you go to the bathroom every day, do you call that a forced bowel movement?
Huh, I don’t think she said she’d like to force women to have sex? That’s interesting, I must have missed the part where she said “all women should have sex and then give birth, whether they want to or not.” No, I think she said that the baby that was conceived due to your choices is a living being and shouldn’t be murdered because you didn’t think through your actions. But maybe I missed something?
Rachel Bowlow also, Rachel, a fetus isn’t considered a person for fourteenth amendment purposes until it is viable. It’s not murder. Just ugh. Idk who ur parents are but they did not do a good job :(
Rachel Bowlow you missed the point that rape exists. The point that not every women wants children and not every pregnancy is safe and not all Babies are born healthy.
As a Canadian I can't believe the cost of delivering a baby in the states. Yes, our healthcare is not free, but we don't leave the hospital with a huge bill!
A small number of people have been convinced by an even smaller number of politicians that corporate profits are more important than our own welfare, and this vocal minority holds the majority hostage. That's often how it works in a democracy - especially one where money is king. It's not so much majority rule, but who can organize best and yell the loudest, and this is what money affords corporate interests that use it to benefit their financial bottom line at the expense of everyone and everything else.
Same here. It costs around 38 euros per delivery day for us Finns. It's nothing.
I’m Canadian too and was shocked as well. I mean, our healthcare is basically free. I broke my femur and had 3 major surgeries and months of physiotherapy and only paid 50$ for the ambulance I took.
Haley my mum had a c section, had insurance and it was 20 years ago so it was cheaper but it was 23 thousand dollars
It’s not free, but it’s pretty close to free! We are so fortunate in Canada.
I knew something was off when I found out that she believed the sun is not here to harm us and we do not need any sunscreen. Like what?
Well she is right!!
The sun is good for you in small doses everyday!! Without sunscreen! Look it up. Not just Ellen saying that lol.
Lol the sun is not here for anything, it just is.
We evolved to endure a degree of radiation but the damage we've done to the ozone layer means our threshold is much lower than the radiation we currently have.
So, yes, a small amount of direct sunlight is bearable but not positive. Indirect sunlight is enough for vitamin d.
Funny enough, the psychological effects of sunlight are much more complex, since it seems the optimal amount for mind health is higher than the optimal amount for body health.
Some other important considerations: women of colour are 2-4 times more likely to die in childbirth. Also, post natal deprsssion, anxiety, and psychosis can complicate the decision to have (more) children. And finally, there is trauma associated with adoption (not in all, but in many), which is often unrecognized. It’s such a controversial subject and it’s disappointing when influencers don’t seem to acknowledge their privilege in holding a pro life stance.
There’s a lot of trauma in a baby getting their limbs ripped off and sucked out as well. Another bad justification to play God.
@Egawa C LMAO--TRIGGERED!!!!!
No we're NOT. What is this BS. There are more of US around of world then of you white ppl. Where do you sjw's get your 'facts'? Sheez.
“Children are valuable!”
Yup, she sure would think that, considering her babies are the source of her income... talk about value!🤭🤔
Just so everyone knows, I do think that kids and babies are valuable, but I can’t help not to see the hypocrisy in her words: if unborn children are so valuable, why would se exploit her born ones?
Uff, best coment ever
Lorena Oliveira 👏👏👏
Im sure she values and loves her children. Your assumption is not a very compassionate one to make, let's stay nice but informing.
Oatdeer I’m sure she does, but I can’t help but see what she does as exploitation. I used to love her and her family as a child, but these “little” things (anti-choice, anti-vaxx, right side political perspective, the way she exposes her children on the platform...) opened my eyes. Just because she loves them, it doesn’t mean she isn’t doing things that might not be good for them in the long run. It is very unfortunate and sad, but I do see it as truth.
Woah you raise such an important point. Kudos for making that connection 👏🏻👏🏻
I'm one of those people who had a child very young, struggled, and now have made a solid choice to never have more kids. I only have one so I always get the "when is the sibling coming"? Or "are you sure you dont want more"? And the infamous "You'll change your mind" 😫 Its very frustrating because I genuinely don't want to bring more kids into the world I cant adequately take care of. My first wasnt planned, so what do I look like forcing ANOTHER child to deal with my shortcomings. I hold enough shame and guilt as it is!
@@OxundHeiner thank you so much!
You're so brave!
I think the greatest thing a person can do is to reflect on his/hers decisions and correctly assess how to move on while looking at past mistakes as learning opportunity.
I also do not feel adequate in this point in my life to have children, maybe I'll never be.
It's no one's business but my own.
@@redhotmcr thanks so much! I really appreciate that! I try to be as self aware as possible, to hopefully be better in the future for my son's sake if nothing else. I applaud you for knowing what you are or arent ready for. Its definitely a decision that deserves great thought and preperation, and I wish I knew that then the way I know that now.
@@SwissMissss I'm sure you've learned a lot from that experience and are doing the best you can with what you've got!
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Mother to an only child here. I get the questions about siblings a lot... it can become really exhausting and sometimes the aggressiveness becomes offensive.
My child wasn't quite planned, we got pregnant about a year earlier than anticipated. A pleasant surprise for us. My husband and I are both only children ourselves, and we planned to stop at 1. We can financially support one child very well, but wouldn't be able to do right financially by two children. It's the right choice for us and for our child.
It sounds like you are making the right choice for you and your child as well, and I support you. Stay strong!! ♡
OR WHAT ABOUT TO 500K KIDS IN FOSTER CARE RIGHT NOW. The adoption argument is so annoying.
Abigail Russo especially when Ellen wouldn’t consider adoption or fostering for her own family
Caterina S exactly!!!!
She liked a post on instagram by alliebstuckey indicating that only pro-lifers give charity, adopt, foster children, and help moms in crisis. smh she's the worst
So better to be dead than to be in foster care. Got it.
Q B so you understand most times in foster care children are molested, abused, and neglected? If not, maybe you should do some research. Most kids (not all) who age out of foster care are either homeless, addicts or dead within the first two years.
My mom's a nurse and she has seen so much. I remember when she told me how we both almost died when she gave birth to me. She told me "A woman giving birth is always between life and death."
I just can't with this woman anymore, I'm sure her family is happy but I wish she would realize that not everyone lives (or wants to live) on Maui, not everyone has been in a committed, stable relationship since they were 15, not everyone can afford or wants to have four kids and not everyone can support their family on their partners salary and a youtube career.... she is ridiculously privileged and completely oblivious.
you just seem mad at her for having her life in order?
you just seem mad at her for having her life in order?
@@0xstev3 I don't think anyone is mad at her for the kind of life she has, you can be privileged but still be wary of other people's misfortune. Empathy is free
@@juliap9632 Insecure people hate successful happy people, and it's so gross to see. Crabs in a bucket. She's not talking any shit on poor people at all
@@0xstev3 no not at all, but I am mad at her for having no awareness of how a lot of (if not most?) people are not as fortunate as she is
After finding out Ellen is antivax, I just can’t take her seriously. Thanks for being a rational voice in the vegan community, it’s refreshing. ❤️
Did you know they put mercury (literally poison) and aborted fetus cells in vaccines? I'm not pro or anti vax per se, but just saying.
Aren't vaccines tested on animals? Stop abusing animals!! 😡😡
emma gonzalez Well shoot that makes me way more likely to avoid her than this IG post
@@singingbear8768 Except they don't... At least not in all vaccines. The mercury containing compound used in some vaccines is thimerosal. Thimerosal is mainly used is multi-dose vials of flu vaccines for conservation purposes (it keeps fungi and bacteria from growing in the vials). As per the CDC's statements, apart from flu vaccines, which not all children get, very few childhood vaccines contain thimerosal, and those which do (DTaP and DTaP-Hib combination vaccine) contain trace amounts. Also, it is important to note that there is a difference between thimerosal, which is broken down into ethylmercury in the body, and methylmercury, which is a mercury compound found in the environment, and known for its toxicity. Methylmercury is the compound associated with toxicity potential from dietary intake (mainly fish and other marine animals) and most other mercury related hazards.
As for fetal cells, vaccines themselves do not contain fetal cells. Cells are mostly used to multiply pathogens such as viruses and strict intracellular bacteria because they otherwise cannot grow in vitro. These pathogens need to be multiplied because they are (or more likely, their antigens) necessary for the production of the vaccine itself. If anything, vaccines contain bacterial cells or viruses, and not fetal cells. The cells are merely used as a medium to promote pathogen growth, in the same way you would use an agar plate to multiply regular bacteria. Furthermore, the cells used are not extracted from foetuses on the daily. The cells used in labs are grown in vitro, from what is known as immortalized cell lines - cells that can grow and divide through mitosis indefinitely. Most of the cell lines currently used have been used for several decades, and simply come from vials; there is no need to extract them from foetuses (which would actually be far more complicated anyway).
Just saying ;)
@@meganepelletier853 holy shit even I saw that saying they put aborted fetuses in vaccines was a joke 😆. Or at least I really hope it was, coming from this channel.
Thanks for this. I’m unfollowing Ellen on CZcams and Instagram. Not interested in giving a trump loving, anti immigrant, privileged woman more validation.
I was in my final semester of the University when I found out I was pregnant. I did those last 3 months while violently ill. I lost 23 pounds in my first trimester due to severe morning sickness, all while doing final exams. When I left school I needed to get a job immediately so I could get the 600 hours I need to qualify for maternity leave (a privilege that is not available in all countries). My point is, it was INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT. It, at times, felt physically impossible. That is not something I would wish on anyone who didnt choose that for themself. To top it all off, my delivery was very complicated and I needed almost all of the interventions. When my daughter was born she had seizures and spent a week in the NICU. I am so grateful that I'm Canadian and that stay was covered by Healthcare but I can't even imagine how much that would cost in the states. I guarantee you we couldn't afford it. And all of that was for a pregnancy that was very much wanted. I cant imagine going through everything I did with an unwanted pregnancy
I'm in the US so I read this while thinking about how expensive this would have been here. Is like $3000 USD for a completely normal baby and 3 days room and board
Wow thank you for sharing 💕 hope your family is well:)))
I am so sorry you have been through all of that... no cake walk. I hope you and your little one are well now.
Angie it depends where u r (which state) and what kind of insurance u have. Mine, with a good insurance was several thousands. My friend, without insurance cost her around 20 k.
I don't know why somw ppl are still stupid enough in the States to think they have to pay for healthcare. We have the State Department of Health, and we are provided with free or extremely low cost health insurance. There are many places you can give birth for free, even if you get a bill, that doesn't mean you necessarily have to pay it. They make you think that but you actually don't. I got sent so many medical bills that I fought and told them should be covered. Ppl will try to get a dollar out of you any chance they get. They capitalize on ignorance. If you know your laws and resources you won't fall into it.
Idk if Swayze will see this or care, but I always make an effort to watch all of the ads all of the way through. Having a mom who is also self-employed, I can understand that its difficult sometimes. I'm proud of her for supporting her beautiful family with good, level-headed, logical content, and not using clickbait, not gaslighting, etc. She deserves it. Thank you for making great content, Swayze!
People spend a 3rd of their life sleeping same. She deserves it. She works so hard.
Do they not get paid if you click skip the add?! I didn't know that!
@@katiev6456 They are paid, but they are paid more if the entire ad is watched.
I wouldn't be surprised if shes also anti birth control
She is
And why she seems to get pregnant every year 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
She is, though she does push the natural family planning thing and has been sponsored by "all natural" birth control apps (some weird device that tracks periods and ovulation somehow??)
@@mindoverbread1213 lmao
Yeah because it’s “not natural” cringe
When I was 17 I said I really didn't want kids. Now I'm 30, still no desire at all.
I hope the people around you are not pressuring you into it :/ ❤️ Kids are optional. Not everyone needs to have them to have a fullfilled life.
@@evab.6240 Thank you..! Luckily I don't feel any pressure, even my parents are aware and very understanding and lovely about it if it doesn't come to having kids/a kid. I even told my boyfriend in the beginning from our relationship (7 yrs ago) that I'm the kind of person who sees herself without kids, and we decided that our life toghether is good as it is. Every now and then, we check up on each other if we still are both on one line though.
@@evab.6240 sorry I meant 'on the same page', not 'on the same line'.
@@pinkcloud3126 that's sounds very mature and healthy! 😊
@@evab.6240 haha! why, thank you! 😄💖
how can someone (read: SO MANY PEOPLE) be anti-vax AND pro-life? do you want your kids to live or not?
Many pro-lifers are also anti-safety net, anti-universal healthcare. It's almost as if an unborn human is more valuable than a human after birth.
In a digital and irl social sea of women, especially mothers, telling me “just you wait, you’ll definitely change your mind about not wanting kids” you’re the most nuanced and respectful woman and mother I’ve heard address this. Thank you for that dose of nuanced perspective.
Edit: I'm LIVING for these awesome comments.
I HATE when mothers say this to other women. You have NO clue what brought about that decision. My brother and his girlfriend have been together since 6th grade, they are in their early 20's now. They are constantly harrassed by her family. Children are not a goal. They are a choice. And that choice is not for everyone. My other brother is Gay. No one bugs him about not making children. It's stupid. People really need to stay in their own lane.
@Karoline Vildlyng I completely agree! I have always hated it when older women would tell me that "I would change my mind", or that "I'd grow out of my not-wanting-children phase". It is so inappropriate, and I really don't understand how these women think that this is acceptable. I knew I never wanted to have children or be a mother. I knew this just as strongly at 14 years old as I do now, at 31 years old.
@@greenlean8890 39 and not even close to changing my mind.
Karoline Vildlyng I heard it constantly until about a year ago when I turned 36. Seems like that’s the magic number and my ticking womb has apparently expired in the minds of others. 🤷♀️ Now I hear “Ah, yes, well everyone has to make up their own minds about having kids,” and while I like not having the pressure anymore, I think about how helpful it would have been to hear that all along.
I hate constantly getting this. I don't want Kids and don't see this changing. Also I'm suuuper terrified of pregnancy so even if i would somehow, at some point change my mind.. it would definitly be an adoption
I couldn’t click on this fast enough. I love when you talk about Ellen.
Denita B hahaha I like you
As a german citizen it always shocks me to hear how extremly overpriced your healthcare is.
Like, I pay a 100€ a month for my insurance (wich everyone can have) and if I were to have a baby the only thing that would cost me would be a private midwife that does housecalls. It's terrible how backwards the US is....
Stimmt! 😆
Aber es gärt...
As an American citizen, it always shocks me that Germany is NOT free country, as freedom of speech does not exist there... you still have a problem with fascism, only now it's masquerading itself as progressiveness.
@@SydLane uhm yes we do have freedom of speech. And don't tell me the US doesn't have a problem with facists
Syd Lane Hmmm, what? Why would you think that? Have you ever even been to Germany?
@@leastallwitz2760 Oh you do have freedom of speech? Then why do you have hate speech laws? How exactly do you figure that you have freedom of speech, when what a person is and isn't allowed to say, is regulated by the government? There are fascists EVERYWHERE, all over the world - but our government is not fascist. YOURS is. That's the difference.
Privileged Ellen Fisher has lived too sheltered of a life to grasp the experiences of unprivileged, scared and desperate pregnant women.
I wonder what her response would be if I had the opportunity to tell her of my experience. It was 1983. I was 19, very low income, with my boyfriend for about a year when I became pregnant, living with my two older sisters. He didn’t want the baby. I didn’t want an abortion. My oldest sister was furious with me. My second oldest sister was unsupportive. A woman at work knew of a couple who were looking to adopt. Another co-worker’s parents were willing to take me in so that I could keep the baby. My oldest sister physically assaulted me when the prospective adoptive parents’ lawyer called me. My boyfriend threatened my life by saying that his dad’s friends would find me wherever I went. They would find me, hurt me, kill me, to spare the family the shame of an out-of-wedlock pregnancy.
I was terrified and blamed myself for causing upheaval in my family and my boyfriend’s family. I had no money to raise a child and didn’t know anything about public assistance. I was terrified of being killed by my boyfriend’s father’s mobster friends. I could’nt see how I would be able to take care of a child,
At 10 weeks of gestation, I went through with the abortion.
I immediately felt empty and lost. Neither my sisters nor my boyfriend offered comfort. I became depressed.
I resented my boyfriend and broke up with him a year later. I lost respect and trust for my sisters. Our relationship never recovered. My oldest sister chastised me for the abortion as if she had no part in it. I had guilt and nightmares for many years afterwards. I longed for that child although I had three live births.
I don’t think Ellen would believe that my family pressured me and even assaulted me. I don’t think that she would believe that my boyfriend was unsupportive and that his father threatened my life. I don’t think she would be able to comprehend my fears and why I felt that I had no other choices.
I don’t think she would believe that, although I went through with the abortion, I grieved for many years and still feel loss.
She has too limited of life experience, immature emotional intelligence,
Here's another concept: kids are OPTIONAL. In the states it can be very difficult to stay childfree because voluntary sterilization is rarely approved. It took me 10 doctors to find one who would finally sterilize me. It's okay to not have kids. It's okay to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. Babies are not all that - they are expensive, they are work, and they are not meant for everyone. People like Ellen make me so angry.
Anna K years ago I had a family member who almost died in childbirth and was told to never get pregnant again. She still had to fight to find a dr to tie her tubes because she was “too young”.
@@brookew2403 It's maddening! At 28 I finally got it done but it was a fight. I cant believe someone argued with her after that
Anna K so maddening! I love my children and having them was the best choice for my family. But! Being a mother is hard work and nobody should be forced into it!
I'm struggling with this right now! I wholeheartedly do not want children and neither does my husband. I want to be sterilized but it's so difficult to get approved.
@Danielle Ehresman :")?
YES to this video. I saw her post and immediately commented that while i respect her opinion, I hope she understands that a ban on abortions would never apply to those who can afford them! Rich people will always be able to afford safe abortions- it's the poor underprivileged communities that will be impacted the most. She never answered my question, but I asked - why do people want less government control (aka taxes, VACCINES, drugs, etc) in every area of our lives except this one?
My goodness I never thought about that!!
1000% true
Gabriella D I think I saw your comment! I commented too and then unfollowed.
I also wanted to open up a respectful discussion about abortions vs unplugging a loved one. Why do we determine death by our brain activity but life by a heartbeat?
Is someone who pulls the plug on a loved one also a "killer" or "murderer" because technically there was a heartbeat?
If a fetus is in fact seen as a living human being by law, will the law change so that the unborn child can be supported by life insurance and health care before it is born (currently that is not the case)?
@@loco4sweets yes! this is always the argument i use.
“Exploit her children for ad revenue...” 😶😐😑
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Laura D petition for that moment to be in CZcams rewind LMAOOO
Anti-Vax, Pro-Trump, Anti-Women’s Rights, thats a lot of tiks against Ellen. 🙄🤔
I love the point you made about people not wanting kids and people not respecting that. I have never ever wanted children ever. A couple of years back I started to develop or rather, finally had diagnosed many reproductive issues and a hysterectomy would solve many of those very painful issues but my gyno flats refuses too "just incase" I change my mind. I'M FORTY!It's frustrating and also insulting that people (particularly men) assume that, because you're a woman you pine for children. The world needs to wake up. As does this intensely privileged woman who is obviously very out of touch with many peoples reality.
This!! I find it so weird when people ask when my partner and I are going to have kids. You’re essentially asking “so when are you guys going to start having unprotected sex?” . My dad gave me the hardest time about having kids when my sister got pregnant. Every phone call he’d ask when I was going to have one and every time I’d say I don’t want kids. Not listening to the last twenty times I said it. I also have reproductive issues and it’s very painful. I’ve asked for a parcial hysterectomy so many times, and my OBGYN was like “good luck getting that”. I already have a life partner and they’re sterilized so if my partner maybe wanting one in the future you already have the answer.
Also, my partner was able to call his doctor and two weeks later was sterilized. No fighting it, no having to find “medical necessity”, no being told “what if...”.
would you be willing to do a response video to Alyse's 30 day carnivore diet? Maybe address her tendency towards extremes (which she acknowledges, but spins it into a good thing)
I would love to see that
katie reid yes agreed. I would love to have UV evaluate some of the claims Alyse made in her video.
katie reid and MIKHAILA PETERSON IN IT. Dear god. The slide into white supremacy is not far off for Alyse I bet
Is that raw alignment Alyse?
Yes please!
"orrrrr someone doesn't have a platform to exploit their children for add revenue" YES SAY IT LIKE IT IS SWAYZE!
@jiggly puff youtubers make money through a percentage of the add revenue earned on their video's
I know someone who was in the foster care system.for years and she was abused for years. She NEVER recovered from the trauma. Ellen needs to talk to THOSE people.
Thank you so, so, so much for making a video about this. I was a fan of Ellen Fisher for years, but after seeing this post which led me to learn more about her anti-vax and pro-Trump views, I simply could no longer support her in good conscience. Your two other videos about her were also very informative and helpful in helping me realize that she is not informed and not educated on some very important topics. I truly believe that her recent post as well as her other positions are the reasons people are critical of vegans and view them as entitled, privileged, and out of touch. Again, thank you so much for your rational, calm, and accurate response. You’re the BEST!
Amy Costanzo Where did you find info that she’s pro Trump? I’m just curious :)
addie she follows a lot of pro Trump, anti-immigrant/migrant, conservative folks, plus her husband Andrew has liked a bunch of pro Trump/Trump family stuff. And as Swayze explains in the video, she promotes very conservative writings. She hasn’t posted anything specifically saying what her political beliefs are, but I think that’s just because if she did, she would lose a lot of her followers. To be perfectly honest, it wasn’t her pro-life stance that turned me off - it was finding out about everything else.
Amy Costanzo Same I was turned off at the fact that her and her husband are Trump supporters. And than her comment that because she supports JoyVilla makes her a supporter or WOC! Gross!
raquel cervantes Yeah, very disappointing to see her true colors. But hey, at least we know! As GI Joe said, now you know and knowing is half the battle!
moths from neptune omg I know....ohhhhhhh the irony of a rich, white, straight, cis, Christian, healthy, American, vegan, PRIVILEGED IN EVERY WAY woman living on violently colonized land posting passive aggressive anti-choice messages that shame others who are not exactly like her. Yes, she is CANCELLED.
They charged me for my stay when I gave birth and for my son's stay separately. His bill alone was over $8,000. I had to take an ambulance to the hospital and was charged $6,500, mind you I declined the IV and had no medications in the ambulance. My hospital bill was over $10,000. Thankfully my insurance covered all of it, but it's insane to think that some women don't have insurance at all and would have to pay the full amount out of pocket or even people with good insurance would still have to pay 20% or more of those bills.
I wouldn't get an abortion myself unless it was medically necessary but it is not my place to tell other women that they can't and i don't even want to imagine the trauma the woman has to go through.
6500 for the ambulance??? What??!
Semi that’s a pretty common price for an ambulance ride in the US. I’ve heard most insurance policies don’t cover them. One time a family member fell and couldn’t stand up. We called 911 and firefighters came to our house in a fire truck and helped us get her into the car. They said they could send an ambulance but it would be super expensive. Luckily, they were able
To help us because the fire station was down the street but a lot of people don’t have that help and have to pay.
@@TheAllyKay oO In Germany we have to pay 10€/Ride and Day in the hospital. No more than 200€/Year. And even that is called "expensive" and is strongly discussed... quite a privilege to live in a country with nearly free healthcare...
That's insane! I just had a baby in Ireland. All of the pre-natal appointments, delivery, hospital stay, post-natal care for 6 weeks were all free.
Had to unfollow her because shes incredibly blinded by her privilege...
You totally encapsulated my feelings when I read Ellen’s post.
The bottom line is that if you don’t center the least privileged, the most marginalized, and the most disadvantaged in your moral views/policy making you are missing the point and are bound to perpetuate these cycles of shame/poverty/etc.
Thanks for always making such well-researched and academically responsible videos!
This was worded really well - pro choice does not equal pro abortion
I dont think Ellen is in touch with reality and the struggles normal people face day to day
When you started talking about the small fishing village example all I could think of was Ellen's sister Hannah and her stupid "food desert" solution. The entire family seems to have never faced difficult decisions that many in poverty face, and their empathy is virtually nonexistent for real full grown humans.
Thank you for talking about this! This absolutely pissed me off when I saw it 😡 being pro-life and anti-vax is a bit of a oxymoron if you ask me 🤷🏻♀️
I also hate the “adoption” argument (especially from these ignorant people that have never/never will adopt a child). My family was a foster family for a number of years. We offered a home to these children that were in need of a stable environment.
The system is messy and terrible. I wouldn’t wish it upon any child.
“Adoption” isn’t ~always~ glitter and sunshine like they like to pretend it is.
Nearly all antivaxxers are prolife due to vaccines being manufactured with aborted fetal cell lines.
Karissa Domin and during the 1960s Rubella outbreak 11,000 pregnant women lost their babies, 2,100 newborns died, and 20,000 babies were born with birth defects. Seems pretty pro life to me 🧐
And actually, the same fetal cells collected in the 1960 are still the same we use today. No further fetal cells are needed to make these vaccines. So that’s a moot point.
You think producing a continuous cell line from the 60s is a good idea? DNA can fragment ect. Since there is 0 testing for mutagenic issues, it is quite possible it is causing harm. Ive studied insertional mutagenesis for stem cell research, and it is absolutely possible this is occuring via biologics. It could explain the rise in autoimmune and mental disorders.
Karissa Domin I think you just tried to science and failed. Feel free to try again though.
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When you’re one of the few that watches the entire video of your favorite CZcamsrs, and you get a burp fest lol. 😂
That whole babbling at the end was the best!
Right?! Lol.
The burp thing killt me lmao!! Threw me off. Idk why but I enjoy her rambling bits at the end.
I always referred to myself as pro life, but after watching this I've realized that I am actually pro choice and anti abortion. Nobody is ever going to convince me that a fetus isn't human, but I still think abortion needs to be legal and available to those who need it. Thank you for explaining so well!
prevention and adoption or so much better then stopping the heart of a precious innocent baby whose heart beats inside his or her mother’s womb where the baby should be the safest
@@theparentnormalexperience7038most aren’t adopted and are abused in various foster homes. People who are anti abortion never adopt
Also hasn't she seen the graph where not having another child is the best thing you can do for the environment. Like better than all the other things combined?
Sara Mills 👏🏼👏🏼
The environment takes a back seat to a Person with a beating heart inside of their mother’s womb
The ParentNormal Experience if we keep letting the environment take a backseat then eventually we won’t be able to raise anymore babies
I didn’t realize there were no other ways to avoid having children! That’s so crazy. Could’ve sworn there were other methods to avoid that. I guess not🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Rachel Bowlow I mean no method is 100% even if you use multiple methods it will never be 100% 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
I am so privileged that when I found I was pregnant with my third son, only 6 weeks after the birth of my second, I didn't have to make a choice I didn't want to make. A choice that i really feel I would have struggled to heal from. I live in the UK; childbirth costs are non existent, financial support for childcare was available (less so now, I admit) and I had a loving husband and we were able for me to only work part time and still survive and a supportive family who were able to help with chilcare. Honestly, even with all of that, it was rough. Two babies and a five year old. No spare cash, no spare energy and complex pregnancies. I would not have been able to do it without all of the help I had.
I get, almost irrationally, angry with women in situations like mine, or better, that expend their energy telling women less privileged and less fortunate what they should be doing with their bodies or how they should cope with these things.
It's funny that the ones who want to end abortion are also never keen on taking steps to help women care for the babies when they arrive. Once they're here, bithe mother and baby are considered a drain.
It's sad. Really sad.
Ellen Fishers channel drives me up the wall! I saw you can pay on her website to watch a video on the day she found out she was pregnant. it’s pretty silly really. Sorry just a little vent 😂😂😂
Got that baby working and it’s not out the womb yet lol!
Yo it's content you're paying to watch ctfd if you have problem with it unsubscribe from Netflix
Interesting. I’ve been sussing out the people that she follows on social media (extreme conservatives like Candace Owens, Lila Rose, and “Vax Freedom”) and she’s VERY active on hard right pages/posts in terms of regular likes and comments. I was always wondering when this side of her would be exposed! Her true colors are showing. She’s an “aggressively orange valley rich conservative who never stepped out of the bubble” wolf in “free-loving hippie” sheep’s clothing.
Tendai Mabingani thats weird that she’s anti-vax, most conservatives I follow are very against the anti-vaccine movement. Seeing that they put others in danger.
I don’t think you’ve unveiled or disclosed any major secrets here ... I think Ellen simply lives according to her morals, I don’t think she is trying to hide anything, especially not from some leftist dummy with a massive inferiority complex that won’t miss a chance to virtue signal in a frequent and desperate attempt of getting some kind of validation from other fellow low iq SJWs,
Oh and before you start typing your standard victim mentality and oppression excuse, I’m not white !
@@rachelbowlow9925 based on the tone of her videos, i think shes anti-vax because she believes on the concept that "chemicals used to create the vax" like mercury for example is dangerous. I checked out some of the arguments that anti-vaxxers have and it's align with most of her philosophy. I cant really support anyone whos anti vax. It's so sad since i follow her in IG and YT and used to be amazed with her videos and fam.
@@rachelbowlow9925 are they still? Haha
"Termination is the passionate choice" this made me cry. I love you. Somebody finally put it into public words for me. It's childish beliefs.
I absolutely love what you said about being pro-choice and antiabortion at the same time. The idea of abortion is horrifying to me however it’s no one else’s business except for the woman. It should absolutely be legalized.
Nika NH exactly. I would never want to have to get an abortion which is why I take steps to prevent pregnancy, but if something were to happen I absolutely would get an abortion. But that doesn’t mean I’m pro abortion
Hannah King I wish more people understood this.
Why is abortion horrifying?
Danielle D mostly the whole medical process especially if it’s an abortion happening later throughout the pregnancy. Also I assume it’s a decision that most women don’t make lightly.. People don’t understand that it takes a lot of courage to actually make the decision of ending a life when it’s in utero.
Nika NH I agree with you. Abortion can be very hard on women, even years later, and the process of abortion is horrifying, especially in the later stages. I asked that because if you really do think abortion is horrifying, don’t you think we can do better as a society for the women struggling with unwanted pregnancies than abortion?
I’m in Australia and I literally did not spend any money to have my baby. All the care before and during birth was covered. This was in a public hospital, and it does cost thousands to have a baby in a private hospital, however the care you get in public hospitals here is amazing 🤷♀️
Ditto. We are so lucky! ❤️ the way the healthcare system is in the Us is just awful 😔
Same in the UK, all care and treatment on the National Health Service is completely free. We're very lucky.
Adoption?...as if caring for a life for 9 whole months and the just placing the child for adoption is just an easy choice for a woman....its not and it hurts just as much! woman in our lifetimes go through so many painful things and smile doesn't mean we aren't hurting.
So well-said: “You can be anti-abortion and pro choice.” Also. Great burping skills.
I can’t wait for her to comment on this and for you to make a video about it 😂😂😂
OH MY GOD THANK GOD YOU MADE A VIDEO ABOUT THAT RIDICULOUS POST. I COMMENTED AND I WAS JUST SO MAD ABOUT THE PURE STUPIDITY.
I'm very anti-abortion... for myself. People have the right to make the decision for their own lives and bodies.
Frankly, even if there are people that are having 10+ abortions, I still respect their right to make that choice for themselves. Abortion is an inalienable human right!
Exactly. I once met a woman who's had 5 abortions (and has 3 kids - wanted more but couldn't because of serious health complications). The first two were because she didn't want to bring children into abusive relationships in her teens (try accessing contraception when you grow up in small religious towns with abusive family), the third was for a planned pregnancy that unfortunately couldn't be carried to term, and the last two were while she was on multiple forms of birth control. Everyonyes story is their own, and everyone deserves access to abortion because at the end of the day it's part of family planning and health care.
Steph that’s using abortion as birth control.
That's just kind of irresponsible by then though....
@@kymberlishea2036 ...maybe the access to actual birth control should be easier/affordable. Or people should know more about their bodies?
This is such an important message. I had an abortion 2 years ago and it was one of the hardest things I ever had to do but as much as a small part of me regrets it, a larger part knows it was the right choice. In the end, we all have the choice to do with our bodies what we want. I really appreciate you addressing this and saying the bare bones of this argument for people, which is. step out of yourself and actually put yourself in someone's shoes before passing judgement.
Thanks Swayze!
P.S.: You should check out Jenny Mustard. She's a vegan youtuber with great what I eat in a day's.
The fetus and baby's body isn't your body it is its own being. But that doesn't have a choice does it? Justify it to make yourself feel better
Syfe Kai take your harassment elsewhere. Harassing women does not make you a good person
@@ellamaeve4791 do you know the definition of harassment? This is a public platform where you post comments and opinions. You post something expect to get a response. Get over it
Syfe Kai justifying your nastiness as an “opinion” also does not make yourself any better of a person
@@ellamaeve4791 and killing a unborn child makes you a good person? Gtfo with your feminism bs.
It’s weird that in the UK there is rarely conversations about being pro-choice or pro-life. People just get on with there own lives x
Havent you learned not to compare Europe to the USA? Same with cimate change... idk I think it has to do with religion. In most European countries hardly anyone voices Christian Beliefs when it comes to politics... The USA just isnt there yet...
@@garlic6127 it has nothing to do with religion
That’s because most people in the UK have been taught to accept every left wing belief in a heart beat and they don’t do their own research😊😊
@@rachelbowlow9925 which is why Boris Johnson was voted in and we voted for Brexit.
@@rachelbowlow9925 switch that with right wing and you're correct
For the record. Most children don’t get adopted. Most kids get trapped in the system and end up getting abused and raped or even killed. There was a case where a family adopted a child from Africa and trafficked her for her organs
Hinata SavageTM holy shit, that poor child. Is that child safe now?
Nikita Heredia yes she’s safe. Shit like these happens all the time. Child protective services got caught up on a child trafficking ring
Hinata SavageTM So sad to see so many innocent lives being caught up in those situations. Glad to hear she’s ok.
I remember a german documentary which showed that adopted children can be „rehomed“ wich basically means that you can write a paper and give it to a stranger without legal consequences. There was even a platform in the internet to give the children away. One woman wrote something like that: Asian boy from Taiwan. 4 years old, big ears and feet. Disobedient. Some children had to dig their own graves or were raped over and over again by known child molesters. In an other case a ten year old boy was sent back to Russia, that is why Americans can’t adopt children in Russia and Ghana.
@@jalifritz8033 do you remember the name of the documentary?
I’m surprised people are surprised at this. Ellen and her husband have been dropping clues for a while now that they’re main concern is THEM. Not other people.
Yep. Ellen is nauseatingly privileged, full of herself and lacking of understanding for anyone whose life isn't perfect like hers.
I supported her soo many years and I was even „on her side“ after your videos about her.
Now I am glad you made this videos and today, I unfollowed her.
I‘m not okay with the fact that she’s „pro life“ or anti vaccination. No matter how beautiful her videos are, what she’s doing is not okay.
she's still gonna do that whether or not you watch her videos
Walrus Latte I know? But that’s not a reason to support her?
That’s like saying „I eat animal products, one person doesn’t make a different.“
Short answer: Yes, she is cancelled.
Yup. Must cancel anyone with a different opinion. What a wonderful society we have today :)
I'll never be watching her videos again.
This is one of the first videos I’ve watched by you that I have agreed with almost 100 percent.
I live in Hawai’i and have been a huge Ellen Fisher fan, and normally feel very aligned with her, but I can’t believe she is quoting Ann Rynd (a known sociopath) and talking about pro-life.
Thank you for doing this video. Thank you for speaking up for all women’s rights. Nicely done. I have a new respect for you.
I appreciate any woman who speaks up for other women.
my view's always been that if you're not willing and able to pay for the expenses and take care of the child once it's born you shouldn't feel entitled to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body and pregnancy
And I thought I loved you before this video!!! THANK YOU for making this!! I'm a midwife in an FQHC in a major US city and I couldn't agree with you more. Everything you said is spot on. This is true feminism right here. I am pro woman, period. First and foremost. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Thank you.
Thanks for making this .. as someone who has had an abortion, seeing Ellen’s post was so hurtful to me. When I found out I was pregnant my world shattered. I saw the price of an abortion and had no idea how I would accumulate the money in time, and the price would still only increase every week I was pregnant. I tried starving myself to kill the baby but then read that this would sooner kill me than the baby. Eventually my angel best friend offered to pay for my abortion, but I knew I was so lucky for this... still the feeling of shame and stupidity and worthlessness followed me for months after my abortion. To think of Ellen in her comfortable home writing about the beauty of the unborn baby and a mother’s bond.... I don’t know why I was so shocked, based on her other uneducated stances. Her ignorance is stunning. It’s too bad she homeschools her children.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I think the option should be safe and free for anyone that needs it. It's a necessary medical procedure for many and should be considered part of the women's health umbrella.
I had one 3 years ago and looking back I realize I was soooo lucky/privileged to have had the savings to cover mine as well as the time to take off work to travel 2 hours out of town to BOTH appointments. I also couldn't drive myself at the time and was fortunate to have someone drive me. I remember they tried to see if I could get financial assistance and I made too much even though I was technically 'lower class'/poor. If anything had fallen out of place- if I wasn't allowed to call off a specific day and time, if I was $100 short, if no one could have given me a ride- I'd have been screwed.
I'm a woman who does not want to have children, for several reasons, but the main one is I'm not fit to be a mother. Thank you for acknowledging that attitude and seeing the positive side of it. So many people have kids and treat them horribly. At 30 years old I know myself, I'm often lazy and selfish, I value my alone time and piece of mind above anything else, I have very little patience. It's foolish to assume that would magically change after giving birth.
Adoption isn't a magical cure either. It's often not an easy thing to do, legally speaking, as well as biologically! After giving birth the brain releases hormone(s) to make a woman feel the need to take care of the baby, watch over him/her, etc. Because of that it's really hard for the woman to part with her baby post-labor and might influence her ability to make an informed decision about keeping the baby. As the result that woman might not want to give the child for abortion after all and regret it later on.
Or what about all those cases where being pregnant is literally a threat to woman's life or health? What good will make bringing another person into this world when you - the mother - are severely disabled or dead as the result?
Pro-choice all the way.
I think you're very wise. I know what it feels like to be unwanted as a child and I think everyone who knows that before having a child and chooses not to become a parent is very responsible. And apart from that, anything but pro choice is simply insane anyway
i'm adopted. my bio mom was a teen mother -- she had me when she was 16 -- and she had problems conceiving later in life. she struggled to get pregnant w her husband. even if the pregnancy and delivery goes smoothly, it doesn't mean it will always be that way.
About the bit in which you talk about not wanting children when young,I've talked to 7 OBGYNs about wanting to prevent pregnancy permanently which I knew was gonna be hard since I was young and childless when I first started asking,but at this point is just ridiculous how "family centered" the medical system can be. I appealed to being sick in agony with two heredatory diseases since childhood (eugenics appealed called where I live) and I was not approved for the surgery. At this point,it's been years since I've had sex more than five times a year in fear the condom would break and I was put at risk of becoming pregnant. My body can not handle pregnancy,yet what I was told over and over is that I could be monitored during my pregnancy,hospitalized and cared for.... Why would I want to put myself through that? Risk my life and risking becoming crippled just so I don't regret not passing on my defective genes? I get "young" people make dumb choices sometimes,but holy shit,wish I could be granted some control over my life
Guys get shit for wanting a vasectomy as well
@@mattzilla331 But at leat they don't have to aks their spouse
@P Martin they can still fail and not everyone can get one.
The Doctor I work for asks his patients to write an essay 😊 gives tangible proof that the patient has taken it seriously and would like to move forward. Maybe try offering that idea to your doctor!
@@axesandaprons That's a great idea, actually
Her husband literally follows Breitbart like what
who is that?
I googled white entitlement and Ellen fishers profile came up👹
I’ve had to unfollow Ellen. She seems like a sweetheart, but I just can’t follow these ‘ideal’ families anymore.
Her Insta portrays the sort of blissful ideal that the rest of us can only dream of…4 perfect blond, well behaved children, beautiful house in the most dreamy tropical idil, perfect handsome and doting husband/father. Exotic fruit just falling off the trees in her backyard, plenty of money to afford the finest and freshest organic food…and of course she is gifted with the most amazing beauty, toned, tall, slim and tanned
She lives type of blessed and rarified existence that 99.9 % of us do not.
Good luck to her.
I’m just interested to see what her views on abortion would be if she were a poor, a single mother, living pay cheque to pay cheque in a grotty apartment in a rough city.
I called her out and she told me I made the term cherry-picking up
This is so disappointing.. I’ve started watching Ellen again recently- and I felt like she was eating a more balanced diet and they were doing a lot better. But now of course there is another controversy :// I’m all about giving second chances and allowing ppl to grow, but it’s getting really hard to support Ellen
Yes, from what she shows the kid's seem to be eating a more varied and balanced diet. Especially the little girl, because when her second was that age it seemed like all he ate was avocado, bananas and breast milk.
Haley yeah totally I’ve noticed that also
Just don't support exploiting your kids privacy in order to get money and you will never come back to Ellen's channel 🤷
You can watch people you disagree with.
Walrus Latte but the thing is- that’s it’s just not just watching. By watching I’m also supporting her channel- and idk if I can support someone who believes those things
I wont be watching Ellen again
How many children did Ellen adopt? What about the adopted children, not everyone is happy for beeing adopted.
Children are money makers for Ellen
Oh god not another ellen fisher video!
Ellen will be punching the air after hearing what you have to say about her again 😂😂
The sad thing is, Ellen has such privilege she wouldn't even understand the points made in this video. I wish Ellen Fisher and her family no ill will, but they live in a bubble. You can not have a honest discussion with some one who is detached.
It's about time! She's horrible
She really is, and I don't understand how she has any fans.
@@MagnificantLights because she lives a life that is highly sought after.
I have a friend who was driven out of a child loss group.
She had hyperemesis from week 6 to 15. She was hospitalized at week 10 and the meds, feeding tube etc did not work and her kidneys started to shut down.
She was told terminating wouls really be in her best interest. Literally a choice between her own baby or her life. She had a 5 year old at home abd a husband who was devastated because this was a planned baby.
She terminated and was open about it and was shunned and ridiculed by people online who would declare that they would have died before killing their child.
It still makes me angry.
I had my daughter as a single mother from the moment of conception. It was incredibly difficult in the following 4.5 years as I became mentally unwell, was financially unstable and lost both of my jobs and had to quit studying and my lifestyle in general. It took such a toll on me that I know I can confidently say there is no way I could have another child without very specific circumstances. The risk for postnatal depression relapse during secondary pregnancies is so high and that isn't good for mother, family, the first child or baby. People need choices so they can raise healthy and happy babies/children. I wish this was more recognised.
i knew i didnt want kids at 12 i knew at 21 i know at 33. still not allowed to be sterilized
venusstardustkyojin do you live in the us?
A tubal ligation can cause fibroids. That's what happened to me
Non vegans like myself love you and your values!!! You have our 100 percent support
"-Even if it's a 17 year old saying 'I'm never gonna have kids'....." Ya didn't have to call me out like that Swayze!
honestly I can't believe they're having a 4th child. It's as though they really don't believe science is legitimate, that the world is becoming so horribly overpopulated.
Tell that to the women in West Africa who are popping out dozens of kids as if it’s some kind of investment for the future and not for their intrinsic value as humans, knowing that they can’t afford them, selfishly choosing culture and ego over birth control made available by foreign aid!
Even you are sure that Ellen will smother her children in love and do her absolute best meet their needs so they can flourish and become the best versions of themselves which will ultimately add value to our society, or is it a different standard for different people ?
As soon as I saw her post, I unfollowed and told the person next to me “wow. This blows, BUT I can’t wait for unnatural vegan’s video on this.”
It’s just ridiculous that a woman in her thirties who makes a living off the internet where there is endless information has the same basic thinking on this subject as I did in the FIFTH GRADE.
She is a white vegan living in a giant house taking up tons of land on a (stolen) island where 42% of the homeless population is Native while only 10% of the population is Native. Who STILL can’t and won’t acknowledge her privilege.
Not everyone can have a physically, mentally, or financially safe pregnancy. not everyone wants one either and no one should be forced or pressured into almost a year of an inherently invasive, expensive, and dangerous experience.
I followed Ellen for her gentle parenting tips but have been real iffy on her for a while AND SHE JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE
Most people's lives are so different from hers. As a mother of 3 living on a below average salary I find her content insanely unrelatable.
A person who is anti-abortion and anti-vax at the same time ... interesting ...
I am 39 and I've never wanted children. I LOVE children, I'm not some crazy child hater, I just never wanted a child for even a second of my entire life.
But I understand that I am not the norm and that having children is an aspiration for most people and a life changing experience for them when they do, if they are able to.
But I've always gotten quite a bit of flack for not wanting kids. But what I think about the most is my grandma.
When I was in my twenties I was talking about not wanting kids and how annoyed I was by people telling me that I was selfish or that I was going to change my mind. My grandma told me that if she were born when I was she would have never had children (she had two, my mom and my uncle). Although she loved and loves her children dearly, she never wanted them. She not only did not want them, she wasn't in a proper position to take care of them, emotionally or financially.
She lived in an era where abortion was out of the question, having children was a must and women were shamed for everything: having children, not having them, having a career, not having one, being divorced, etc.
Although I have been judged EXTREMELY for not wanting children, at least I have the choice. How many woman were or are like my grandma, who had children they never wanted out of pressure and shame? What person thinks it is morally better to shame and pressure a woman who doesn't want children and is unable to care for them to have them yet shun abortion?
Only psychopaths are pro abortion. It isn't a choice anyone wants to make.
You have spoken exactly how I feel about abortions. I couldn't have said it any better. I'm pro choice and anti abortion
I outgrew Ellen a while ago, she used to be my favorite CZcamsr :( then once she made the patron and started putting her “better videos” on there I unsubscribed. Sucks when it becomes all about the money once CZcamsrs get bigger. The biggest shock was Raw Alignment tho but that’s another story
CoconutKitty exactly. And her comments aren’t disabled. She turned them off. She knows what she’s doing.
I stopped watching when I realised she disabled the comments too! To me, that was suspicious and to me it shows she’s not as inclusive as she claims 🤷🏾♀️
Randi BOMB Are you sure? I saw so many family channels’ comments are disabled.. including mine😱 sometimes it turns on, but turns off automatically few hours later.
girl i just started watching your videos and i appreciate how you recognize the privilege of these white vegans.
I always had a feeling they were super conservative, especially with the way she talked about Christianity and the way her and her husband "saved themselves for marriage" and how that's always the best way. I've also seen her sister post quick snippets of her reading articles on trump in her videos. I've never been able to wrap my head around people who claim that they are a voice for the animals, but support a man who hates and degrades human beings.
right? it's really frustrating people like this have such a huge platform and are so rich on the backs of others honestly