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In this podcast I interview Mark Rippetoe and we talk about how training changes in your middle and even later years, how to keep joints healthy (34:35), how to avoid injuries and overtraining (45:09), and more...
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nah i'm good.
I started lifting in 1980. I'm 56, pull over 400, and still am making gains. The difference now between me and guys my age that have never worked out increases exponentially. I feel sorry for guys that really look like old grandpas when they could be so much stronger and have a better life. Being strong is the single most important thing in life.
Couldn't agree more...64 and squatting 375+ and DL 440 and improving... goals 225 PRESS.. Bench 315...405x5 squat..500 dl
@@Mr._Fit_Atheist Great answer young Lion Heart
@@Mr._Fit_Atheist Happy to share amongst winners of Life.. my Buddhist mentor Daisaku Ikeda says "Being halfhearted is such a waste. If we go around as if we’re half-asleep all the time, we can’t hope to savor a life that is free of regret. Enthusiasm and vigor are vital ingredients for a fulfilling life.
You guys are my inspiration. I’m 41 and barely pulling the numbers you guys are.
@@johnouellet4099 give it time and consistency and patience..eat more protein and real food
70 here, been doing some traning for about 5 years. Have made gains in strength and muscle over recent months since I concentrated almost exclusively on full body exercises. Deadlift, power snatch, power clean and push press. Been pleasantly surprised. Exercise 3 x weekly max, High intensity (for me)
Thanks for sharing your experience....
Started at 56. 9 months of little progression however this time has conditioned me to be able to now progress pretty rapidly at the moment without joint problems. As an older newbie my method is
1, prepare the body to train avoiding damage/ injury
2, Progress when the body lets you, it’s not a race.
3, work towards long a term goal as you ain’t young enough for short term gains without hurting yourself.
4, remember that training helps to repair old injuries and improves mobility and general health, strength and longevity. These are better goals for an older person than looking a certain way. Remember that you will look radically different than other non trained people your age by the time you are 60something and this difference is far greater than when young. The difference in health and quality of life is also greater. You make these gains, you win.
Discovered starting strength at 58. One yr later 405 deadlift single 385 triple., squat 3x3 375. Press 148 3x5 155 single. Bench 213.5 3x5. Had to take about a month off. Just started but have a year of training to begin with.
Started testosterone replacement therapy 6 months ago too.
Great fun challenging myself in the gym.
Starting Strength Chicago opens soon. Going to open house December 4.
That's strong! Keep up the good work.
Good lifts! Especially the squat and press!
54 years old. Trained hard early in life... 14 to 22, so have always held onto that base. Got back to it on my 47th birthday. Have been hard core ever since. Powered through the initial pains... knees, shoulders. I'm good now. I listen to my body, always high intensity, but accordingly. I'm gonna do heavy rack pulls tmr for my back because I know my body is ready for it. And then I move on to other things, appropriate for the body part. My sense of level of recovery being the marker I use. If I'm not fully recovered on a body part, ill plan the work out accordingly. But ill still work out. I exhaust each body part somehow, someway. If its not just maintaining, and I can, I go all out. Am I less of a lifter than I was in my twenties? No. My experience and self control is keeping me up at a higher lever even at this age. Am I making gains. Absolutely. There are certain body parts I find I can train twice weekly, which is making em blow up. Point is, learn to listen to your body. And never, ever, think you can't make gains no matter your age. Mark kinda made it seem like you need to give some up past a certain age. Haven't seen that yet. You adjust, find a slightly different route to making those gains. I don't lift like the twenty year olds slamming their dumbbells on the floor, don't want to, but feel just as powerful. And that's the whole point here. Feeling at your best, powerful, hungry, alive. And I do agree with mark as to one particular dead end. You start lifting for the first time at fifty, you may be screwed. You need that base. You absolutely do. I was pressing 120 dumbbells at 16. My body, my mind remembered when I was ready to come back. Cheers
@anthony maltezos I totally agree! I'm 51. I couldn't have said it better myself. I lift as hard and intensely as I can. But I listen to my body. I back off when I have to. I try to keep moving forward and slowly keep creeping up on the weight.
Mark is right ripped people focus way too much on being shredded but hey i guess to each his own. Its not optimal though for getting big and strong
I'm 69 and can do volume. I've started over with Mark's program doing the 5X5 three days a week. Doing his program correctly I had to reduce the weight and work back up. I haven't hurt myself yet. I start by raising my heart rate doing the strider ten minutes. Next, I go and stretch and do some stomach exercises. Then I head down and work my 5X5 program and when done I found doing my stretches reduce soreness three days. The other two days I do the stretches, a little running and walking and maybe some basketball. I'm not sore and stay away from the distance running. It burns you out and you don't lose weight. I can't stress too much keep on stretching those muscles even as you lift and you will become more flexible and strong. When I'm in the gym I see old people walking around head down taking little tiny steps. It's sad and if I could work with them I think I could change them but hey I"m not a trainer.
What you describe is NOT Mark's program.... don't say it is his and then say it works or doesn't work, you took his blueprint and MODIFIED it to your liking... but it is not Mark's
I like your approach- too many guys are looking at these ripped, over-developed guys and think there's a chance to become that- without test boosters. There needs to be a movement for a realistic, natural approach that a person can maintain into 70's and 80's.
I am very impressed by the amount of work and dedication Mike Matthews is putting into this sport. There are so many charlatans on this platform that are mainly marketing experts (buy my video, get my book, subscribe to my channel, get my super fabulous plan for the incredible price of....) changing routines as they would be changing underwear and not saying something that would be truly effective, beneficial and worthwhile to people who want to embark in weightlifting for a myriad of reasons. Those marketing experts instead are jumping from one exercise to the other while actually would be more intelligent to sit down and have discussions like the ones on this podcast, with experts in the field, about proper form, volume, recovery, which are actually educative and enlightening. I have learned so much about this sport from this and from other Mike Matthews' podcasts as well as his website and from other experts (especially Mark Rippertoe!) he had interviewed.
The only thing I can say to you is keep up the really hard and inspiring work you are devoting to this. Thanks very much!
Great interview. I like RIP because he just says it how it is. I have found exactly the same as what RIP and Mike talk about it in this interview.
I am 42 now and have had to reduce volume to 3 sets per exercise across: Floor Press, Squat, Deadlift, Bent over Rows, Military press, hammer curls, JM presses. This is done over 3 days and each body part gets trained once per week.
Any more and my sleep suffers and motivation dips. I found this out the hard way, through experience. Everyone is different however but this works for me. I am 6' 2" and 240LBS but can still make progress with this workout.
The biggest problem for me was that my mind keeps getting in the way. After the 3rd set my mind thinks, "you're fine, do another set" and I still fall for it now and again and suffer the next day. Get your mind right and the rest will follow.
Awsome podcast, Mike.
I've taken a 17 to 18 year layoff before starting again. I lifted from 20 years old to 35 years old. I lifted naturally and retained quite bit of muscle until I started up two years ago again. I have made some significant gains after my initial 1 1/2 year come-back. During my come-back, muscle memory bought me back very quickly; except I have a bit more body fat.
I turned 54 years old this month. Since I started following your CZcams channel and later bought your book "BLS", I have made some significant gains using your strategy. I modified it a bit though.
I have been on an "8 day" cycle; 1 muscle group every 8 days. I do warm-ups, then I go into my heavy 4 to 6 rep workout. It takes about 40 min. I AM doing 10 sets of "heavy" after my warm-up. I have gotten stronger, and I have made noticable gains; especially in my lagging parts. I picked the 8 day cycle due to my 4 off - 4 on work schedule. I cheat 1 or 2 more reps on the last set of each exercise. I only do the compound exercises (bench, bent rows, shoulder press,). I do arms on a seperate day. 3 on, one off, one on, 3 off. Even though I do heavy, it is in strict form for 4 to 6 reps; others might think the weight I use is light. I rest 3 minutes between sets (2 min for arms). So far I am experiencing awsome results. I have decided to incorporate a "destress" week consisting of higher reps of dumbell movements, and chins for my back.
I believe that volume and intensity is "key" on your workout day, but recuperation takes time. This was a problem when I was younger. I might have made better gains in my youth if I had payed more attention to recovery. Recovery is the key; especially when you get older.
If I had a facilitating work schedule, I would do an 8 day cycle of alternating workout days, so that I would have a day recovery for every workout.
I need to lose a bit of bodyfat before posting my results. I was asked recently if I was doing any steroids. I'm looking good since starting 2 years ago. I have never done steroids. I drink whey protein and eat 10 free range eggs a day. I recently began taking creatine. I eat organically, and I buy my water. I mix my protein and creatine in organic rice milk.
Thanks for this very interesting video, Mike.
I started training at 16 and now I am 56. I still do a fair amount of volume working out every other day. Compound and isolation movements. 30 to 45 minutes with very little rest between sets. Plus I ride the bike hard 33 minutes on days I lift. Plus I work my ass off at work 55 hours every week. Sure at my age I can't do what I could do even at 40. But I still can workout harder and recover from more than in this video. I can't imagine doing 5 rep sets. I sleep fine. I have more energy and work harder than the 30 year old guys I work with.
Thanks for covering this topic with Mark Rippetoe!! I am 42 and have been seriously working out since my early 30's and have noticed the changes in what my body can do now as opposed to just 5 years ago. Very helpful points...would definitely look forward to reading articles from you on this topic in the future.
I love how he comes into every interview slamming the interviewer and establishing dominance
Ripp would hv kicked ass in the military during the 80s....
57 yo here on Rip's program 425 Squat, 445 Dead Lift and 345 bench. Not impressive compared to alot but they are gains in my late 50's
The key with any type of training is listening to your body. I'm 38 and had to do the hardest thing a lot of us have to do is admit we aren't 21 anymore. Recovery is key. Nutrition, rest, and deloading have been tremendous on my gains. Bigger Leaner Stronger is the most real program I have found if you're interested in gaining strength, muscle, and nutritional knowledge. I've done P90X, Power Training, and Army PT in my early days, all of which in my opinion over train via massive amounts of volume.
This are the videos that should have millions of views. They are honest and they respect the sport.
Mike, I have been studying your teachings for over two years. This is the first time I’ve heard this podcast. I’m so excited, because my fiancé is 58 and overweight. Recovered from hernia surgery about 6 months ago. I’m going to take what Mark says to heart when helping him begin his weight lifting program. Yay! I’m so excited to have such a jewel of information. Thank you, thank you!
79 years old here. Bench 75 pounds on a good day. 55-60 usually,. I work 70 hours a week as a marine diver, so I'm burning calories all the day. Not too worried about mass, I'm really strong and have always felt alpha about myself. One tip for you young folks: eat your eggs. No need to thank me
52, started strength training 4 weeks ago, since then aches have been going away not getting worse. Just gotta have good form and take your time.
let's hear the update
@Tommy Harris nope just haven't posted for ages, still training hard
@@kevinhunter5349 still training 4 years later, but good to see your positive input
I'm nearly 49 and I respond quite well to Madcow 5x5. Gonna start an SS based routine next week.
4 years on, how did it go?
Yeah, how did it go?
This just confirm my recent findings that volume indeed is NOT necessary for building muscle in fact it just hinder ur progress, more then you might think.. Ofc you need mutiple exercises to stimulate all sides of the muscle but no reason to pace urself on multiple sets on each exercise.
Let Mark Speak
Just turned 45. I've learned warming up is more important the older you get. I'm more conscious of trying to avoid injury as the older you get the easier it gets to injury yourself, and you don't recover as quickly. I try to lift moderately heavy as long as I feel I can handle it and progress at a slow pace. Better to be safe than sorry.
I totally understand. I'm also 45 (past bodybuilder in my 20's but haven't lifted in 15 years) and I can't believe how slow the progress is. I train pretty intense but it took me 11 months to even squat 185. I only deadlift 155lbs and I keep re-injuring myself, so I stopped deadlifting for 5 months because a pulled muscle (piriformis syndrome) isn't healing. I stretch for 20 min pre-workout whereas in my 20's I probably stretched for 1 minute. My goodness aging is a real bitch but at least my gut is gone now after a year back in the gym.
@@golforfishing The stretching before lifting is probably hurting you more than it's helping you. There's plenty of videos out there discussing this, here's just one: czcams.com/video/nLQefKzMVjo/video.html. I also saw Rippetoe discus this before (edit: here's that video czcams.com/video/W7vw_vc_8K0/video.html). You just need to do a dynamic warmup before lifting and if you want to stretch, do it afterwards.
Good morning Mike, I liked the beginning WWE smacktalk show you guys put on there lol ..its definitely much different in your middle years and I agree with what he is saying about volume and recovery..
at age 39, I only train in ways that add to my health (that should however be true at any age)....the great thing is, getting older forces you to rest more and be smarter when you do train..its a better overall life balance..I have found I can maintain and even make gains, much easier with much less time commitment..you become more efficient..thank you for doing these Mike..very helpful!
spot on. im 59. i weigh about 200. its ideal for me to do 5 by 3 or 5 by 5 on all big lifts. i work up to maxes and then drop back. I get way to sore on multiple reps even though i can do it. Im around 320 on. sqats , 400 on deads and 250 on bench which is ok. Im happy with that and reckon i can kick on for a while.
I think the older you get, the more often you need to have a deload week or two. Have 3 to 4 weeks of volume followed by 1 to 2 weeks of deloading, low volume, low intensity. Then you can ramp up your intensity for another 2 weeks while still keeping your volume low. After that, return back to another 3 to 4 weeks of volume and repeat the whole thing over. I guarantee that yield great results.
Depends on your fitness level, I work 7 days a week and all my workouts high intensity. Follow and I work 12 hr shift days and nights. I do go to the gym after a night shift.
60 years old here: Did Pavel's PTTP program for 7 months, 3 days a week, now for 2.5 months on SS Novice LP also 3 days. No problems, making more progress than I was on PTTP (adding the squat and alternate days press and bench seems to help) but I can see the going to 2 days a week is in my future within a month or two.
Very good information! I wish I had seen this before returning to the gym at 45 years of age after about 10 years of just doing calisthenics once in a while. I tried doing high volume like when I was in my late 20s and got golfers elbow and then later AC joint inflammation. Now, at 46, I train twice a week and limit the volume. Seeing this last year would have saved me some setbacks.
I am nearly 50. I have trained all my life, not hardcore but mostly for aesthetics and fitness. I do hard manual work for a living 12 hour shifts, and I train, still look like I am in my 30s. I do IF, I do operate in a calorie deficit a lot of the time, I have six pack abs and do supplement. I am now learning callisthenics. I have just had testosterone checked and am around 700 that is high. I do not and have never taken steroids.
+george griffiths
Thats impressive! How is your training affected by your 12 hour shifts of manual labour?
I am 45 years old , 5 ft ll 190 , 33 inch waist all I do is stretch and and workout on my heavybag , I also do jkd , bjj bareknuckle boxing training I feel great , i do alot of core workouts and do sprints, I found what works for me
Only safety issue I have ever run into with the heavy squat is the question of baling out. You have to have your rack set up right when you are handling real weight (200-300lbs and more) -- you can hurt yourself getting out of an unfinishable rep -- and you cannot always predict what you will be able to finish when you are pushing your limits.
Great interview Mike.
Pictures of female bodybuilders would be sweeter that watching your face the whole time Mike. Perhaps the pictures of the full line of products; instead of just your logo.
Never ever feel up to injury and keep going do not do this ever this man's advice is golden guys and it's theraputic 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
You have to stay healthy, that's it. That's the secret, if you can stay healthy, you can keep going.
I am now 71 yr old and still doing 3 sets of 8-12 when I was 64 I was lifting more weight than guys 1/2 my age , I remember when I was 60 my daughter boy friend came over and wanted to train with me, he was twice my size, I had 180 lb on the bench press I did my 12 reps he could only do 3 went to the dead lift it was 240 lb, I did 12 he could not get one,. and he was around 30 yrs old, and did weight train. Now that I am 71 yr. when I get to 3 sets of 12 I will go to 2 of 12 and one of 15 before I add weight. The big difference is that you need a lot of rest between sets, Don't rush them. I do upper body one day, then tension bands the next day, then next the legs and guts on the third day, then a day off, and start all over, On the day I do tension bands after I finish I will have a good rest the do push ups and dips, and once in shape do pull ups. I mostly work out in the winter and early fall then I am in to the garden it is 100' by 90' and I have a 2.6 acres to take care of at 71 that is enough, so weight training will drop off till winter. Don't underestimate what us older guys can do, just start out light every time and work you way up over a month, the go to it. Just remember you need more rest between sets, and I have always found 3 sets of 8-12 reps works great for strength training. As my step father use to say you not old until after 90 some time. For those starting out 8-12 is if you can not do 3 sets of 8 you are lifting too heavy, and once you get to 3 sets of 12 time to add weight. Good luck and get in better shape than the average young punk.
i am 50 3 times a week squat 4 sets 5reps for 110k, deadleft 1 set of 145k, bench 70k for 4 sets, press 40k for 4, pullups 10k added
for 20 reps
the reality is that most 40y olds and over are untrained unhealthy and have accumulated fat because they simply don't care or workout anymore, they've got their lady , a couple of brats growing up, a job , a mortgage ,a cold beer once they get back from work and a warm meal and that's it. All they wanna do is watch some telly and some R&R with the misses,If they worked out and took the slightest care for their nutrition they could still be as buff as they want, im not speaking this out my behinds, just youtuble older bodybuilders, you will see 60y old bodybuilders that put 19 y old college kids to shame
Look at me. I have all that. I made time no excuses
I’m 39 and just getting started. I work a physical job so probably have an advantage over your typical cubical jockey at least.
Unfortunately you are right that MOST men and women are in that situation.... but it would be really helpful if there were a way to show VIDEOS or PICS of men in heir 40-50-60 in good or great shape showing them doing heavy (over 400 pounds squats or over 500 pounds dead and all the other markers) that would be so inspiring that I believe more men in BAD shape would get going and keep at it.
I am 51 years old now, and squat 455 and DL 495 with a bench press of 275 (though depending on the day, it varies, but it never gets lower than 245) and because of a car accident my shoulder is fucked for the press and it is only 135... I do dumbbell snatches instead of cleans because of that shoulder situation but I do it with 100 pounds.
My point is that age is real but relative to how much you've kept up with your body and your gym training.... I lift more than all other men in my gym, they get close and ask, and I tell them What you see is what it is, but they don't believe it and they want a "secret" to it.
On my 40th Birthday I was doing the Lavaman Triathlon in Kona. At 41 I did Ironman. 51 now and still throat-punching the old guy stereotype.
That describes most people nowadays, young and old. We live in a very sedentary society.
Bought Mike Mathews book felt riped off enough said. Found mark rippetoes starting strength.. best book on training I have found in a long time.
All his books are gold
A good discussion by Rip unfortunately accompanied by Matthews' narcissistic slide show.
+Ramus Sumar I was wondering what that was about. I listen to many interviews like this at work and have to pause it when somebody comes in the door (so I can hear them talk, not because I'm getting away with anything). Unfortunately the spot I paused it at looks like the start of a gay porno.
+Ramus Sumar are you fucking kidding me? mike was so humble and willing to compromise in the conversation even when rip was spouting off bullshit and belittling him... are you stupid? I value both of their opinions but really rip can be a complete douche when getting interviewed and mike was beyond professional. fuck you.
+Turtle man Aka the turtleinatorrrr lolololol derrrr Did you see what he actually said? He said the discussion was good, but the SLIDE SHOW was narcissistic.
Robert Thomas did you read? he said "a good discussion by RIP" if he was trying to praise THE discussion and not just what rip said he would have just said "a good discussion."
More hilarity from turtlehead. Such erudite humor. You must have been a Rhodes Scholar. You still need to wipe your chin.
I'm 43 and do calisthenics every alternate day. I have noticed that my cortisol increased doing this but probably because I work out mostly during mornings. Other than that, muscle soreness is absent and also recovery is ok, although I just get like 5 hrs of sleep.
How did you find out your cortisol increased? Lab work?
As a man in my twenties I find that higher reps generally are easier on my joints (10 reps etc), recovery about the same
I feel the same way. I feel like 4-5 rep sets are harder and more strenuous on my body than 8-12 reps.
Yeah mark is fat and lazy
I really enjoyed this podcast unfortunately I wish I would have seen it and heard it about a month ago. I'm 42 and I think I over trained my biceps and now I think I have a partial tear on my lower bicep you can see the bruising. I knew I should have taken some time off but I pushed it and pushed it and I paid the price for it. I'll use this time to adjust my training obviously but also to try to come back stronger and learn from my mistakes. Thanks Mike
Im 97 tears old and I just started lifting yesterday. Do you have any tips for making all kinds of gains? All kinds.
is not just a workout program
+scott stephens Do whatever the FUCK you wanna do!
62 here. Have done other weight lifting when younger but started a similar 5x5 and have incurred injury twice over the last 5 years. Last time was quad tendonitis on one knee. When you are older it takes much longer to heal, for me it took a year. Form is critical. Form is critical. Form is critical. Warm up doing the same lift with the bar and lighter weights (building to your set weight) is important as it helps to solidify your form before you put on your final weight. I injured myself by still doing 5x5 when I got to 200lbs with the squat and lost form. Just a little bit of bad form can injure you and I was still doing 3 days a week. I think 5x5 if fine for the beginning (at my age at least for me) but lower to 3x5 as the weight starts to get heavier. At 97 3x5 is probably better if you can. Also Mark's suggestion to limit to twice a week when older is a very good suggestion. I think you can go 3 days a week during the lighter weight beginning if you can handle it but switch to 2 days with heavier weight as it is very true it takes longer to recover.
Last time I was lifting I decided to go out for a run and was surprised that 4 miles came easy. Without weight training 2 miles is torture. I can't run as much due to planters fibroids on the bottom of my feet and I don't look forward to running like I used to but I do look forward to going to the gym.
Get The Fuck Out Da Whey !
GOMAD
I am 47 and I train at a very high volume and when I do I get in good shape ...I believe it is all in the recovey and training for what the goal is 100%...Would love to chat philosophy as you have a very level headed mindset.
Your two interviews with Mark Rippetoe are by far your best podcasts. He is hilarious, but also such a great source of knowledge.
So how old is too old for the program in Bigger Leaner Stronger, Second Edition? Is it too much volume for a 45-year-old? A 50-year-old? A 55-year-old? How to modify the program based on your age would be an interesting topic for a podcast or an article on muscleforlife.
Great episode as usual Mike. I have one question. Is there a way to reactivate the testosterone receptors?
I have a question for the older guys/women out there who have recently started lifting again in mid life like myself. Were you able to rehab some old/nagging injuries, get stronger and feel better in general? I'm turning 45 in 6 months and I generally feel like dog s#!t. I've always been fit and exercise but have laid off the bodybuilding training years ago and got into cycling and kettlebells and now I'd like to get back into old school strength training again, get stronger and feel better. I'd like to hear how the older folks are doing and how they manage their old injuries picked up from abuse in their 20-30's while making progress.
Mark refuses to let Mike get a single word in edgewise, lol. Dude loves to hear himself talk.
When he get going it hard to get him to stop. Mike can't get a word in edge wise. Ha Ha ... Great Listen though. Love Marks book.
I enjoyed this vid so much. I can relate with the dynamic and flow of the interview... and how it closely resembles the convo I have with my uncle who went to vietnam. Long story short, we were both *weak* individuals at some point in life and became better versions of ourselves. He would tell how he could barely pick up crates and artillery rounds at the start and was practically the hulk towards the end. The coolest parts of the interview was someone like Mark admitting he isn't trendy... haha. Anyways, Good on you for your hardwork Mike. You are a level to aspire to! Cheers.
The beginning was hilarious :D
Great interview!
lmao, i love how mark starts ripping into mike right away
***** He's just hatin on the abs haha
Me too
Great value here. Very helpful. Thanku
I started SS and see good results so far.
Mark schooled his partner throughout the interview, a bit rude, but experienced specialists tend to be like this, they care more about their message than etiquette even when they are a guest.
Stuart Loria I’m glad he did. Mike normally talks over the guest but he can’t do it with this older OG
@@Exxon300 Sounded like Mark was getting interrupted a lot in the beginning and he seemed tired of it :P
Great conversation. Thoroughly enjoyed it
A key takeaway is that being in a caloric deficit is like "Artificial Age". As you get older you need more and higher quality protein because your body doesn't absorb it as well (paraphrased). With that said, I'm now 47 and the age is no longer "Artificial". That leads me to a question. Shouldn't someone 40 and beyond maintain 1.2 grams of protein per lb. of body weight regardless of whether they're cutting, bulking or maintaining?
Great interview..
I've been training seriously at a relatively high level all my life, am now 46 years old and at the top of the game. Horrified knowing that from now on it's gonna be one long descend... dammit.. dammit
+Lars Rye Jeppesen I feel you. Hitting 40 really soon and really depressed watching sports and suddenly being older than everybody on the field, hearing guys on the sports radio shows talking about people in their early 30s as over the hill, etc. and worst of all the aches and pains.
This is highly informative though. Makes me reconsider some of the things in my training as far as volume. Wish there was more middle ground out there between HIT training and the 16+ sets per bodypart training that's been dogma since Schwarzenegger won Mr. O. Rippletoe seems to be in that middle ground.
Reaves MO very true, so very true. Every word
Im 62, and fighting the good fight and winning. I have actually grown my shoulders and retained my strength, but need a bit more rest. I keep up with my 23 year old son, and in most items use a little heavier weight. It IS Possible! Older lifters should be more disciplined, smarter than these young pups...Want it?...work It!
Your still way ahead of 90% or more of most people your age. I'm 80 and know this through experience. There is know substitute for youth but life doesn't end there.
@@patrickvanmeter2922 Thanks dude! you're absolutely right. Great to hear from someone your age, that's awesome!
Doug Hepburn says the same about the aging lifter vs. Volume vs. Intensity
I’m 36 this year. I know what Mark is saying about volume...
41 years old and need to find the 5x5 training y'all are referring too. I did not workout younger except what the Army required in my enlistment 17 years ago. last year I started working out and had a hard time benching 225 but now today I can lift 280 clean free weights. I do not use supplements of any kind. I'm bad and just eat whatever I want and I'm a fat 5'10" 215lbs older guy lol. I never done a dead lift or squat in my life yet. I just use dumbbells and barbells, plus my kick boxing bag. If y'all have a link to a good workout for strength, I'll appreciate it. thanks
You get big yet or not? Rip is the man
Great interview Mike, I really like Mark's Candor.
Yeah, what everyone else is saying, it was great, informative, entertaining, funny as hell. Good stuff.
Hey Mike, this was a brilliant interview, well done! I have a question. On my rest days when bulking should I eat at calorie maintenance or still at a 200-400 calorie surplus? Will the ratio of muscle to fat gain be more fat if you over-eat on rest days or will it be the same as training days as muscles can take up to 78 hours to recover/build? Thanks a lot, I think this would be a good topic for a future video.
When bulking it makes sense to stay consistent in your caloric intake...this will also help with recovery.
Excellent. Older prospective lifter. Addressed my concerns.
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How does one's diet influence or affect recovery? Has there ever been any serious studies comparing those on strict whole, plant-based diet with those eating typical amounts of animal protein? Or those consuming lots of foods that are known to be high in anti-oxidants and anti-inflammatories?
Also, I understand that some nutrients are not absorbed as well later in life for some individuals, but is that really true for protein? And what constitutes "higher quality protein"?
I want to know how to get that keg gut!! Should I supplement with beer, bread, red meat, pasta, or cola? Cause the more ya weigh the healthier you are, right?
All of the above plus some milk.
Bottom line, don't be a hero, be healthy
if you belive you can't cause your older then you can't.
Mike Matthews has to learn to not cut people off when they talk.
I know this is older vid, but can anyone answer this. He says that you cannot train isolated muscles, like the leg
extension, and that doing such exercises is a waste of time, that you should only do the major compound exercises. He offers no explanation whatsoever why this would be true. Why can't you do progressive overload on a machine isolating a single muscle group? I do..
If you waited until you're 58 to start working out, look you fucked up lol Love RIP
John Smith did you even watch?
great convo-47 and getting after it!
Glad you enjoyed!
nourishing the mitochondria is the key to keeping up intense exercise with age. lots of antioxidants, nonstarchy vegetables.
Just wanted to say that you are by far the most infromative youtuber. your videos cause me information overflow most of the time! :P
I tried to ask you on twitter but I had to keep it realy short, adn I couldnt explain myself. Why when "bodybuilders" talk about good carbs dont mention white potatoes? which one is better and why?
***** Are your supplements available in Europe (Greece).?
I know this is a few years old, but Mike did you ever become a beast at 20% body fat and then lean back down "for abs"? Would be a great challenge and experience.
Volume is a individual thing. Some people's bodies can take it. Some can't.
So I'm 38 years old just started lifting seriously about a year ago. I been following bls making good strength gains is it too late for me?
Jung Yang The only time that it is too late to get into shape is when have let your health go beyond the point of no return or you are dead!
At 51, I'm bigger, stronger and in better shape than when I stopped lifting when I was 30. Over 2 years, since I started back lifting heavy, I've put on 35 lbs and set new personal bests on all of the major lifts. Just work hard, eat right and keep at it because it's never too late as long as you are still breathing and healthy.
I'm 39 and stronger than I've ever been in my life by following Starting Strength. It'll keep you young bro!
For guys like me creeping up there in age sometimes we need to hear it; "Stop with the 20-something-itis and lift smarter". Good interview Mike. You wouldve gotten an A+ if the slides were of women...just sayin.
great episode Mike
Hey mike. Got your book BLS. I've up'd my weights on all compunds following your routine. Question for this podcast. What do you think about Collagen type 1 & 3 for joints/ligaments?
Thanks mike
I'm 36 and I've had issues with medial epicondylitis and infraspinatus and teres minor since my twenties :P
I can't make progress with my lifts because of the pain and I'm afraid of snapping a tendon :P
A great listen.
LOL Only a strength coach can call 505 light.
at 44 ive started to increase my bench press training from once or twice a week to 3 times a week and increased my work capacity by working up to 8 sets of 10 reps at 75 percent of my 1rmax working down to 1 min 45 sec rest btween sets and before i start the 10 rep sets i do 3 sets of 85 to 90 percent triples
OK, I'm 63 and I'm in my 3rd wk of Strong Lifts (similar to Starting Strength) a 5x5 Barbell program. Rip was just saying we at this age may need less Volume, like just 2 days/wk.
My Question is how should I split that up?? If I lift on Monday & Thursday, would I wait until the Next Monday to lift again???!!!
Yes
@@georgetubb9124 Thanks for being willing to help us out without compensation.
That's very altruistic when so many just want the money.
Much respect to Rip, but I'm more on the aesthetic side of things, which equals more volume. More volume isnt the problem, but more/less volume plus heavy weight is the issue, lighten the load and rest period, then have Greek God results, this works for me, at 47. Heavy= disaster for my joints, everybodys different.
most of us in the western diet and modern technology driven societies develop insulin resistance as we get along with one of the results being more insulin being produced.
insulin stores excess blood glucose as fat but then processes protein instead of that fat into fuel for energy so increasing your protein needs.
add to that the fact meat is alot less bio-available than plant protein and alot more work for the liver wich not only has to carry the now extra workload of helping turning glucose into fat but also of processing the meat protein into glucose when the carb glucose runs out and cleaning the toxicity it creates.
and insulin= no growth hormone so that kinda really sends one up the proverbial creek.
intermittent fasting,ketosis and plant food solve alot of these problems to the point of 60 -70 grams of protein producing mind blowing results.
6. Work. Sets. A. Week.
Advice to older guys at 10:17
Do 1 set. Pick a rep range for the movement. Get stronger in that rep range. I'm 49 and that's how I do things now. The 3x12 and 5x5 days are over.
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I haven't sqaut in months and did tonight went up to 255 no problem because it's a natural thing to do.
Use rips method and u won't get hurt. Be egotistical and work up to injury and keep going u will get injury 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
so is there an actual routine that you can recommend for someone over 40?
funny thing is the bit at 56:00 about reaching absolute genetic potential is the sort of thing they do for Olympic lifters in China
"7 to 8 is just stupid."
Ha ha.