The Problem with CrossFit, Kettlebells, and Functional Training | Starting Strength Radio #36

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  • čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
  • Mark Rippetoe discusses the Two Factor Model of Sports Performance and why "functional training" or kettlebell or CrossFit workouts are not training.
    00:00 Intro
    03:07 Comments from the Haters!
    08:13 The Fundamentals
    19:59 Just punching the ticket
    25:35 A Better Way
    29:46 Training in the middle
    38:39 Separating factors improves performance
    42:15 Strength training for strength
    45:15 How to judge a strength coach
    47:55 Training the tails
    52:38 The Be Staying Alive Sport
    54:13 Now popular methods: CrossFit,
    1:02:25 Kettlebells,
    1:09:57 "Functional training"
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Komentáře • 609

  • @UFCgymROCKLIN
    @UFCgymROCKLIN Před 4 lety +383

    Joe rogan needs to get Rip on his podcast!!

    • @joshuatate5671
      @joshuatate5671 Před 4 lety +19

      We should all go to Joe Rogan and spam his comment section saying he needs to get RIP on

    • @gaber8903
      @gaber8903 Před 4 lety +1

      James Irvin he has

    • @wasumyon6147
      @wasumyon6147 Před 4 lety +5

      No Joe the Toe in Idaho.

    • @senselessnothing
      @senselessnothing Před 4 lety +12

      rogan is garbage, only good for drugs, be it anabolics or other

    • @bcl_8234
      @bcl_8234 Před 4 lety +19

      Joe Rogan doesn't want another actual alpha male on his podcast

  • @waynearonson9076
    @waynearonson9076 Před 4 lety +165

    I think we should let them push all the "fluffy" workouts...keeps the squat racks and benches open and available!

    • @TheLouisianan
      @TheLouisianan Před 4 lety +17

      I love the fact that everyone thinks kai greenes big chest workout will work for them because the racks are almost always open at my gym

    • @lovesojourner3000
      @lovesojourner3000 Před 4 lety +2

      Absolutely!

    • @TheLouisianan
      @TheLouisianan Před 4 lety +2

      @Becoming Godsize only if youre a member at my gym haha

    • @armaghankhan1439
      @armaghankhan1439 Před 3 lety +5

      Hahahha. I will encourage people in my gym to do functionals so I can have the rack to my self

    • @RexxAnthonySamuell
      @RexxAnthonySamuell Před 3 lety +1

      Amen!

  • @mohammedtirech431
    @mohammedtirech431 Před 4 lety +20

    Hi Mark,
    I really enjoyed your video. I hope God gives you a long healthy life so you can continue to inspire humans to be physically strong.
    I am from the UK and recently the National Health Service (which is UK large free social health service) has implemented in their guidelines for newly diagnosed cancer patient that they must join a gym within 48h to begin a strength and HIIT training programme. The reason being is that it has shown being physically strong and conditioned before cancer treatment, patients are better prepared to undergo chemo-radio therapy and surgery. In addition, their recovery rate is fast and do not require to spend as much time in recovery if they come into the treatment strong and fit.
    Only now the medical community have realised the huge benefits strength has on your cancer prognosis and other health conditions.
    I wish the health and fitness would focus on strength and condition through training the big compound lifts as voiced in SSBBT.
    Thank you for your help.
    Mo

  • @markathanacio9724
    @markathanacio9724 Před 4 lety +17

    This is so true. Get stronger to improve everything. I'm not quite as old as Rip but I'm close and been involved at all levels of strength training individuals for over 3 decades. Thanks for spreading the word guys.

  • @ResistanceQuest
    @ResistanceQuest Před 4 lety +5

    Your best content in months. This is the Rip I signed up for

  • @zachjohnson980
    @zachjohnson980 Před 4 lety +43

    I play billiards and getting stronger has certainly improved my game. I notice increased stability in contorted positions as well as increased stamina. Having a strong back and strong hands and forearms is a huge advantage since most billiard players don’t train.

    • @everydaywarriors
      @everydaywarriors Před 6 měsíci

      Why tf would you do such a dumb thing with your time?

    • @RedGoobler
      @RedGoobler Před 3 měsíci

      Are you trolling? Can't tell

  • @michaelroberts9427
    @michaelroberts9427 Před rokem

    This is my favorite CZcams video, by far! Thank you, Mr. Rippetoe, for sharing your knowledge and wisdom!

  • @GamerGuy51
    @GamerGuy51 Před rokem +4

    This channel is a hidden gem. Great work guys. ❤

  • @carlosmichael5183
    @carlosmichael5183 Před 4 lety +14

    After years of touch and go experiences with the Starting Strength Method, this video has, finally, for some reason, convinced me. I am amazed by my own ability to make excuses for myself.

  • @lebe-stark
    @lebe-stark Před 4 lety +87

    We are huge proponents and supporters of Rip and Starting Strength in general. We believe in the power of the deadlift, bench press and squat and use it on a daily basis with our clients. When it comes to Kettlebells, I'd like to share some constructive feedback to what is said in the podcast.
    1) Kettlebells are a fad
    Depending on the sources, we can date kettlebells back into the 17th century. Strength equipment that survived this long is not usually considered as a fad - if we put american/russian politics aside.
    2) Kettlebell is not strength training
    It's probably not in a typical sense since there is a ballistic component involved (as Rip mentioned) and Russians do consider kettlebells as a form of cardio. Aside from the TGU however, there are more exercises that intentionally avoid the ballistic component and therefore can be judged strictly as a form of strength training; such as the goblet squat or the strict press.
    Even ballistic movements like the Clean & Press or the Long Cycle require a proper amount of force production especially from the legs and don't depend on ballistics alone. Specifically at the point when both kettlebells are in the rest position prior to the dip, jerk and overhead fixation.
    Finally, providing the kettlebell swing as the main exercise to build strength from a kettlebell training point of view wouldn't be the right exercise in the first place. Even though it's the most popular, I'd rather use the Clean & Press (or the mentioned long cycle) in that regard.
    3) How to build strength for kettlebells
    The question probably should be rephrased since kettlebells are not a question of raw force production alone.
    Pressing or snatching a heavy kettlebell (28 kg+) overhead for example can certainly be achieved with raw strength. However, the best way to "become stronger/better with kettlebells" would be to improve the technique itself (juding from the girevoy/ kettlebell sport style of view).
    Anecdotally speaking, I'm now able to clean & press the 28 kg for a certain amount of reps because I've been working on my technique and not by getting stronger on my deadlift, squat nor bench press. We see the same results with our clients as well.
    Enjoy the holidays guys; looking forward to more content in 2020!

    • @boydmccollum692
      @boydmccollum692 Před 4 lety +13

      Well Brad Gillingham (world champion powerlifter) and Dr. Stuart McGill are both proponents of kettle bells, especially for the therapeutic benefits they provide.

    • @jamescurry6409
      @jamescurry6409 Před 4 lety +5

      @@boydmccollum692 Thank you for the wel-balanced rebuttal to Rip's claims on this issue. I thought he was selling KBs short. And they really aren't a fad the was Crossfit and functional training are.

    • @WilsonPowerlifting
      @WilsonPowerlifting Před 4 lety +4

      The point is that if you did get your deadlift up, you could clean and press more than the 28kg KB you’re doing now. You can clean and press more than 28kg on a bar in a couple weeks. And ya can’t squat a 150kg KB.

    • @jorjicostava3018
      @jorjicostava3018 Před 3 lety +3

      with all due respect 28kg is nothing, i can press that and i'm weak af

    • @PassportG
      @PassportG Před 3 lety +3

      @@jorjicostava3018 lol 28kg is a joke. Rip promotes the barbell lifts as that's his model. I support that too. KB never got me strong like barbells.

  • @_michael_s623
    @_michael_s623 Před 4 lety +4

    His tips are great and I love hearing him speak

  • @zachwilliams3362
    @zachwilliams3362 Před 4 lety +22

    If I had to commute an hour and forty-five minutes to work, I would DEFINITELY listen to Rip the whole time.

    • @bigmfnturtle7346
      @bigmfnturtle7346 Před 2 lety

      Saddest part of my commute is his podcast ending and im not there yet

    • @gsquared2394
      @gsquared2394 Před 5 měsíci

      I have to listen at 1.75 time speed

  • @redsoxwinagain2007
    @redsoxwinagain2007 Před 3 lety +3

    Great leveling explanation on CrossFit. It peaked my interest years ago but only enough to notice that the movements concerned me. Some are just unbelievably stupid. I am also not a gym go’er but do train using powerlifting at home and have achieved many goals, injury free. I workout to feel better so injuries are the wrong direction.

  • @andrewrato6086
    @andrewrato6086 Před 4 lety +15

    Thank you, Starting Strength. You put out the absolute best information in the online "fitness community." Rip dropping pearls of wisdom in these videos.

    • @giovannam925
      @giovannam925 Před 4 lety +1

      Pearl's of wisdom, good caption for the next podcast😉

    • @sananton2821
      @sananton2821 Před rokem

      @@giovannam925 Except they want their captions to be grammatically acceptable.

  • @76MUTiger
    @76MUTiger Před 3 lety +14

    Mark, to your golf example, I have a story. I began your program about 3 weeks ago and got to session #7. At 67 years old my weights are modest but improving at 5 lbs per workout. Last week our Oregon gyms closed because of COVID. I went to play golf (5 handicap) with my buddies one bright November morning. It was 40 degrees. I had zero warmup. I swung an "Orange Whip" a couple of times and then hit my first tee drive as long as on a hot summer day, and straight! As a cold, stiff old guy that first drive shouldn't have gone very well. I have only the Starting Strength Program to blame. By next Spring things could be pretty phenomenal!

    • @tommyharris5817
      @tommyharris5817 Před 2 lety +1

      Still training and how's it going?

    • @sidhu139
      @sidhu139 Před 10 měsíci

      @@tommyharris5817 Still waiting for that reply?

  • @SilverWiskeyStones
    @SilverWiskeyStones Před 4 lety +6

    You may have gotten me in trouble with your conversation about the commute. At the end of it, she turns to me and says " You don't like me?" Thanks for the new complication.

  • @ChristopherSalisburySalz

    I was a competitive swimmer in high school - a sprinter. The summer before my senior year I weight lifted religiously in the afternoon and ran a fast paced 1.5 miles in the morning. I was in incredible shape when swimming started in the fall. I got my fastest times in the 50 yard freestyle. Of course everything when to pot when my coach had me swimming endlessly and doing no strength training.

    • @sidhu139
      @sidhu139 Před 10 měsíci +1

      As a fellow athlete, I empathize with you and I have a similar story. I am a professional couch potato (well technically a bed potato since I'm broke and I don't own a couch and sit on my bed all day). After going through Rip's linear novice strength progression, I've noticed that sitting on my behind all day and doing absolutely nothing else has become much easier, and I have much more stamina too (now I can sit for an hour longer before I have to lie down from sheer exhaustion). That means I can now watch an entire movie on my laptop in one sitting, instead of just single episodes of my favourite TV shows and cartoons. Thanks Rip.

  • @robertthompson5501
    @robertthompson5501 Před 4 lety +18

    My father was a competitive runner till his late 70'e. Innumerable trophies. His heart enlarged and would pause
    He got a pacemaker, beginning of the end. He died hard. He avoided heavy weight training as he did not want to become "muscle bound." Thank you Kenneth Cooper founder of "Aerobics "..

    • @AjaychinuShah
      @AjaychinuShah Před 3 lety

      Are you implying Orthodox Weight Lifting causes those problems?

    • @michaelwoehrl1746
      @michaelwoehrl1746 Před 3 lety

      Kennith Cooper was a real a-hole. Pompous, arrogant guy who thought he knew everything. He did not.

    • @jonklein7130
      @jonklein7130 Před 2 lety

      A lot of competing runners do some sort of weight training. Are you saying competitive running gave your dad a bad heart? There are a lot of people who never exercise with enlarge hearts. Stamina without strength is worthless. Strength with out stamina is worthless. Rip never mentions this. Cross fitters and people who do kettlebells can do the power lifting workouts he mentions, but can power lifters (Rip) do hi rep kettlebells and cross fit? Remember no belts or suits.

    • @HelloSpyMyLie
      @HelloSpyMyLie Před rokem +2

      @@jonklein7130 they could do It in a few weeks

    • @jonklein7130
      @jonklein7130 Před rokem

      @@HelloSpyMyLie do what in a week?

  • @andrewbrown7166
    @andrewbrown7166 Před 4 lety +106

    I used kettlebells extensively and effectively in two situations. First, for rehab and second when I was a fighter. Olympic/power lifting did not give me the endurance I needed in the ring. Kettlebells did. And there's no way I will do Olympic lifts for high reps.

    • @PauloBerni699
      @PauloBerni699 Před 4 lety +6

      Exactly! Depending on how the implements are used they can be for strength and development or endurance. I phased out all benches, racks bars and plates the more I gravitated more to kettlebells.

    • @DerekFrohlich
      @DerekFrohlich Před 4 lety +3

      And here I am training fighters specifically focusing on high rep barbell complexes.

    • @davidtrevino5211
      @davidtrevino5211 Před 4 lety +2

      @@DerekFrohlich How's that working out performance wise? Just curious about their results.

    • @DerekFrohlich
      @DerekFrohlich Před 4 lety +11

      @@davidtrevino5211 the last guy I put on it doubled his output in 4 weeks. In the ring he outworked his opponent. Threw exclusively bombs for 2.5 rounds till his opponents corner threw in the towel. He never came close to gassing. Fight was @ 185 Muay Thai

    • @DerekFrohlich
      @DerekFrohlich Před 4 lety +5

      @Raimonster Couldn't agree more, well put. I find that the largest difficulty i have training high performing athletes is 1) minimizing the interference effect. And 2) finding the bare minimum they can do to maintain a trained system while they focus on a different one.

  • @WoodShopStop
    @WoodShopStop Před rokem

    Thanks for clearing this up for me.

  • @tjssjt296
    @tjssjt296 Před 3 lety +1

    Ripptoe is the best!!! His voice backs his word

  • @daNgLez888
    @daNgLez888 Před 3 lety +16

    Starting Strength 3rd Ed folds up and fits under my bed.

  • @MrRolyat98
    @MrRolyat98 Před 4 lety +66

    I think kettlebells became popular probably a) the mystique (we’ve all heard stories about elite Russian athletes) b) convenience (not many people have space for a power rack in their residences but kbells can be stuck back in the closet when you’re done) and c) more fun than boring cardio machines.
    If you read the history provided by Pavel, he states that kbells were popular in the Soviet military due to them being cheaper alternative to barbells and power racks and providing good enough fitness for soldiers. Like anything take it with a grain of salt. Personally, I view it as Olympic lifting made easy. An Olympic snatch has a lot of moving parts and should be coached to make sure you avoid injury and improper technique. A kettlebell has a much wider room for error while providing most of the benefits in interested in. That being said, even Pavel acknowledges that barbell training is superior to kettlebells for making someone stronger.

    • @dafunkmonster
      @dafunkmonster Před 4 lety +2

      MrRolyat98 I think that kettlebells are attractive to people who don’t have a clue how to accumulate strength. They’re also attractive to people who want to be seen doing something that appears impressive.

    • @juncruz3685
      @juncruz3685 Před 4 lety +24

      dafunkmonster i think kettlebell is not for to get strong but for more GPP. i do powerlifting and i do kettlebell. u cant use a drill to cook a potato. different tools for different purpose

    • @davidtrevino5211
      @davidtrevino5211 Před 4 lety +9

      @@dafunkmonster I believe they're also attractive to people who are concentrating more on human movement . As opposed to those who are looking more into gaining strength.

    • @Re3iRtH
      @Re3iRtH Před 4 lety +6

      @Raimonster You can do all with kettlebells. Do you do a chin-up with a barbell? Lol

    • @chris51ification
      @chris51ification Před 4 lety +8

      Re3iRtH I think kettle bells are great for gpp work, but you can’t compare me kettlebell squatting 45 lb for reps to me 305 barbell squat for reps. I think both have their place but you can’t get anywhere near as strong with a kettlebell squat

  • @ArisAlamanos
    @ArisAlamanos Před 4 lety +71

    "I've never done cocaine..." (immediately scratches his moustache underneath his nose)

    • @blazecarr
      @blazecarr Před 4 lety

      point in video ? lol

    • @Cp0455
      @Cp0455 Před 4 lety +3

      When people scratch their nose or rub their eyes and mouth when they make a statement it *can* be an indicator of deception.

    • @blazecarr
      @blazecarr Před 4 lety

      @@Cp0455 I mean where, what point in the video did u see this

    • @Cp0455
      @Cp0455 Před 4 lety +1

      @@blazecarr 5:45ish

    • @blazecarr
      @blazecarr Před 4 lety +1

      @@Cp0455 🤣 interesting

  • @Mr-mopar
    @Mr-mopar Před rokem +1

    I use light kettlebells as a warm up tool. I do swings ,cleans, snatches, etc to wake up my old body before I get under the bar.

  • @aarondedrick9277
    @aarondedrick9277 Před 4 lety +11

    Can’t be explained any more simply than this!!! Love this channel!

  • @supersaiyanzero386
    @supersaiyanzero386 Před 4 lety +43

    None of my doctors told me to lose weight even though I was almost 280 lbs at under six feet tall, with high blood pressure. Granted, I've been lifting for 12 years or so. The doctors wanted to treat the symptoms rather than the cause. I lost about 20lbs, quit drinking and my blood pressure has improved by 20% systolic. Point being, look at what could be the root cause of your problems, people are out for money and that may tamper with their methods of helping you.

    • @giovannam925
      @giovannam925 Před 4 lety +4

      Lol when I was pregnant 27 years ago 5'6 200lbs! Doctor just said keep doing what you are doing. They still say that now 54yr 15l lbs. 14%bf, though I would like to be lower, but that is my problem, lol. Stay strong, stay healthy. 😎😉💪🏾💪🏾🚴🏿‍♂️🚶🏾‍♀️🐕🏋🏾‍♀️🚵🏾‍♀️🏍

    • @Re3iRtH
      @Re3iRtH Před 4 lety +2

      Rip is obese.

    • @konstantininozemtsev4442
      @konstantininozemtsev4442 Před 4 lety +1

      Sounds like you need better doctors -lifestyle modification is literally the first-line therapy for hypertension in evidence-based medicine. Nobody gets fat kickbacks for prescribing cheap generic antihypertensives.

    • @senselessnothing
      @senselessnothing Před 4 lety +1

      Treating the symptoms works. The problem is the buildup of other symptoms and the limits to symptom treatments.

    • @supersaiyanzero386
      @supersaiyanzero386 Před 4 lety

      @@senselessnothing Treating symptoms in conjunction with targeting the underlying cause if possible depending on the situation. I didn't need to. It's about sustainability. I don't have cancer or something.

  • @Bostonaholic
    @Bostonaholic Před 4 lety +22

    When is Rip's book "Starting Walking" going to be released?

    • @raiden031
      @raiden031 Před rokem

      Starting Walking will be tailored for intermediates who have graduated from SS and built the proper strength foundation for walking.

  • @ggrthemostgodless8713
    @ggrthemostgodless8713 Před 4 lety +2

    "...a young strong guy is capable of EVERYTHING physical, whereas a guy who ONLY runs is capable of running, and that's all...there's a greater return on investment from getting strong that pursuing ANY OTHER avenue of accumulating a PHYSIOLOGICAL adaptation, in training... it makes more sense to take that amount of time and get stronger than do anything else; now, once you're stronger, what can you do?? EVERYTHING better..."
    Best concise truest statement in favour of lifting weights for STRENGTH.
    I tell this same feeling to all people I know, but never as precise as this one statement.

  • @samthesaxon3918
    @samthesaxon3918 Před 4 lety

    Hell yes Rip! Awesome channel.

  • @denoffitness3379
    @denoffitness3379 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely gold content

  • @carbonfibercrypto2919
    @carbonfibercrypto2919 Před 4 lety +32

    Can I get abs if I send a little electro shock into my stomach cavity through the skin? Saw it on an infomercial on the Boomer tube last night.

    • @jskeen9503
      @jskeen9503 Před 4 lety

      Based in China just look up The Russian on regular show

  • @modernrooster
    @modernrooster Před 4 lety +46

    Never heard kettlebell proponents say you should swing one for 10 minutes to build strength.

    • @TheProchargedmopar
      @TheProchargedmopar Před 4 lety +7

      Jamie Wildhaber Yeah, more like do a set with as much power production possible.
      THEN, walk around shaking it out for 5-8 min before doing next set.

    • @chancedriscoll5350
      @chancedriscoll5350 Před 3 lety +2

      In Pavel’s book Enter the Kettlebell, he actually recommends 12 minutes of swings. You swing until you can’t anymore, take a walk and come back to the wait when you can breathe again. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, just saying I have seen it recommended

    • @dandeveny4513
      @dandeveny4513 Před 2 lety

      @@chancedriscoll5350 but does he say this is the recommended way to specifically "build strength".

  • @boriken395pr
    @boriken395pr Před 4 lety +1

    "Coments .... From... The haters........" I love it! :)

    • @rustyshackleford735
      @rustyshackleford735 Před 4 lety

      You obviously don't know how crossfitters train and program. You really shouldn't comment on aspects you don't understand. The contests are random, the training isn't.

  • @RighteousEpoch
    @RighteousEpoch Před 4 lety +35

    This episode is a symbolic retaliatory drive-by shooting conducted on Pavel's recent guest appearance on JRE.
    On a serious note, I've been waiting for you to talk in depth on this subject for a very long time.

    • @akhilsharma83
      @akhilsharma83 Před 4 lety

      The Depraved Epoch I thought the same

    • @wreagfe
      @wreagfe Před 4 lety +1

      I've seen the JRE clip in my recommended list, but as I already know the answer to the question of that video title I didn't bother.
      I do like coverage of problems though.

    • @jabberwock14
      @jabberwock14 Před 4 lety +1

      Pavel said "You can't add 5 lbs to ____ lift. The rate of adaptation is such that it just doesn't work" but doesn't explain why or how. Lol.

    • @chris51ification
      @chris51ification Před 4 lety +10

      Jaberwock33 he said it works for a awhile but adaptation will eventually slow down and not work.

    • @jordywilliams
      @jordywilliams Před 4 lety +14

      Jaberwock33 he said it doesn’t work forever otherwise you’d be world champion by christmas, which is 100% true

  • @HughSheehy
    @HughSheehy Před 4 lety +2

    Is there also an actual podcast?

  • @treasurethetime2463
    @treasurethetime2463 Před 3 lety +27

    "Anything that folds up and stores under your bed is bullshit.". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @teslafreak
      @teslafreak Před 3 lety +5

      That's concerning because I am able to fold up under my bed.

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 Před 3 lety +1

      @@teslafreak lmfao

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 Před 3 lety +1

      @@teslafreak how tho

    • @teslafreak
      @teslafreak Před 3 lety

      @@mihailmilev9909 My bed is on risers, it's not very low :-)

    • @AjaychinuShah
      @AjaychinuShah Před 2 lety

      does this include bunk beds for Baba,s ?

  • @eclipsez0r
    @eclipsez0r Před 4 lety +33

    But the Chuck Norris total gym

    • @riterra
      @riterra Před 4 lety +4

      The funnest way to do cable chest flys.

    • @RawFitChris
      @RawFitChris Před 3 lety +1

      You mean the "We'll pay you an insane amount of money to say you use our stupid exercise equipment designed for invalids" infomercial?

    • @Flatpickmastery
      @Flatpickmastery Před 3 lety +1

      Chuck doesn’t need to be strong. He just would stare you down.he commands the 700 lb barbell to come off the ground and so it does

    • @jmc0369
      @jmc0369 Před 3 měsíci

      I have a cage and a TotalGym. Thats a great machine. I totally rehabbed my shoulder on a totalgym. Great for shoulders and arms.

    • @eclipsez0r
      @eclipsez0r Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@jmc0369 Nope

  • @endobronchial
    @endobronchial Před 4 lety +1

    thank you Mr Ripptoe

  • @operationtruth288
    @operationtruth288 Před 4 lety +1

    Good Information Video

  • @micvili7527
    @micvili7527 Před rokem

    How would you do this program as a fighter trying maintain his weight ?

  • @jobob25788
    @jobob25788 Před 4 lety +1

    What’s with the right shakes, every now and again may wanna get that checked out..... jus sayn

  • @somebody3158
    @somebody3158 Před rokem

    That punching the ticket scenario is spot on and hilarious 😂

  • @rbjmartin
    @rbjmartin Před 4 lety +7

    Kettlebells @1:02:26

  • @fsrsaa
    @fsrsaa Před 4 lety

    😂🤣 awesome stuff as always. Loved the “you don’t know what you are doing, you need to learn your job but” 😂🤣 I couldn’t agree more.

  • @pjfdayton
    @pjfdayton Před 3 lety +2

    My sport is trying to stay alive , LOL. Thanks Ripp I now know my purpose.

  • @briankeesler240
    @briankeesler240 Před 3 lety +6

    Sport of not being dead that’s what I’m training for 😆

  • @joshtaylor26
    @joshtaylor26 Před 4 lety +19

    If whats-his-bucket in the background is gonna talk, they ought to mic him up so we can hear the stuff he's saying. Otherwise it sounds like Rip is talking to the voices in his head.

  • @PANDA_SPEAKS101
    @PANDA_SPEAKS101 Před 3 lety

    How much does the fastest sprinters squat??

  • @TheProchargedmopar
    @TheProchargedmopar Před 4 lety +2

    Last year with the 53# kb doing a TGU was a sketchy proposition.
    On my 50rh B-Day I did the 88#er 10x1.
    I want to be able to Get-up if I fall down when I'm 80yo.
    Seems to be working so far for me doing 10 singles 3x a week.
    (Strength training??)

  • @Bigfezzig
    @Bigfezzig Před 4 lety +1

    Preach it Rip!

  • @bmstylee
    @bmstylee Před 4 lety +5

    We talkin bout practice.
    Alan Iverson has entered the chat.

  • @joethesheep4675
    @joethesheep4675 Před 4 lety

    01:09:20 - my sister got tighs the length of a small boat but she got no shanks, at all. So she got me convinced she couldnt squat below parallel for a few months. However, we recently started working on getting her to squat to proper depth and it turns out even she can. Certainly not her favorite exercise but what you gotta do?

  • @drinkingrobot2252
    @drinkingrobot2252 Před 2 lety +3

    I combined barbell training and kettlebell training. I just love them both so much for different and similar reasons.

  • @stijngunst
    @stijngunst Před 3 lety +3

    Nice discussion!
    But some questions/remarks (sport-specific practice is tennis in my case). I understand that strength training the way you advocate it, can help tremendously. and decloupling strength-training from tennis practice is practical, certainly if you only have a couple of exercises (sq/dl/pr/bpr/pclean/psnatch). This is great!
    But on the other hand, you also need other qualities than pure strength and power and i find that kettlebell swings for example can give you muscular endurance, it also works on power and explosiveness depending on the speed with which you execute and you can do a lot of rotational exercise variants (which is not the case with the classic barbell exercises that are advocated). That's why I also program medicine ball throws (next to kettlebell-swings), where we can also play with footstances and tennis-specific movement patterns before the catch of the ball. It could be argued that this is sport-specific training.
    At some point, weighted swings and ankle weights are mentioned and laughed upon. They may not make you strong in the sense of strength training, but if you do them and then you repeat the same actions without them, everything feels lighter and it feels like you can actually hit harder when the racket is suddenly lighter (and assuming you have the technique and timing to do faster swings and still hit the bal cleanly) and that you are faster on first step when you remove ankle-weights. I cannot prove this, but i wouldn't want to take them out of a tennis-program, because if you do these exercises, you really feel the difference. To me, these kind of exercises are a kind of sport-specific application of acquired power-capabilities (being able to move your bodyweight faster, or accelerate the racket-weight harder).
    When you refer to functional training and the "bosu"-ball in an ironical way: i like to add the bosu-ball or doing squats or (single leg) romanian deadlifts on stability pads because it trains balance and stability and learns you to move your centermass over your base of support in more variations than classic strength-training (your leg(s) and their stance on the ground).
    The main difficulty is the programming and periodization to do the strength and power programs while you're practising sport specific also for hours.
    Nice content, and i understand your strength arguments, but i feel that the other forms of training like kettlebells and functional training provide additional benefits, which can carry over in sport-specific skills (certainly the case for tennis)

    • @juansamudio1171
      @juansamudio1171 Před 3 lety +1

      I agree with you lol in fact I also stated that as a boxer sure being strong and getting stronger is great when I weight lift but technique is key! You can be strong but you’re body may not know how to function properly or to it’s full potential when throwing a punch unlike when you practice functional movements that help with that you may not get stronger from building more muscle but from neuromuscular adaptation we’re your nervous system gets stronger at producing force in that movements in fact Lateral flexion and anti rotation both are key for rotational sport athletes. Rotational movements often require an intense stretch through the core; as a consequence of hip and shoulder separation. To optimize performance and prevent injury, athletes must develop strength in those positions. So I see what Rip is talking about but you have to realize functional training is just standing on a body ball and causing instability but it’s more of exercises that work several muscle groups simultaneously. Functional training helps with stabilizer muscles which are a huge help when it comes to strength training. In fact coming from rehab a bosu ball will come in handy along side with unique weights but if you notice therapy doesn’t just consist of functional training but also resistance training. Functional training improves balance, agility and muscle strength, and mobility which can all help with traditional strength training. They also help reduce the risk of falls. Yea strength training is great for performance but keep in mind they’re always exceptions, if you go to the circus and see these people balance on balls. They don’t practice that by just doing leg strength exercises, yea im sure they have done strength exercises to get stronger but they also practice on a lot of unstable surfaces because for them it’s a necessity while for us who the hell balances on a ball every day? Not many people unless your hiking and you like jumping on rocks sure some single leg stability exercises will help but you have to realize functional training is the classification of exercise which involves training the body for the activities performed in daily life. Because functional training focuses on training movements not muscles, but I mean if you’ve never done functional training and you always do strength training you’ll see some growth in functional since it’s a new stimulus for a bit. But at the end of the day the best thing you can do is functional bodybuilding(or strength resistance) training combine to have a lot of power and strength but also have great mobility and agility for your daily movements.

  • @aaronbpi98
    @aaronbpi98 Před 4 lety +1

    What do you think about Sprinters running with parachutes while practicing? Is this equivalent to swinging a heavy bat or heavy racket?

  • @ThomasRSkillman
    @ThomasRSkillman Před 4 lety +11

    I used to drink a 6 pack of beer with every workout and became a raging alcoholic, but I was in great shape.

  • @totallyraw1313
    @totallyraw1313 Před 4 lety

    Swell video, Rip!

  • @eclipsez0r
    @eclipsez0r Před 4 lety +1

    Top episode

  • @crucifixgym
    @crucifixgym Před 4 lety

    The longer these are, the better.

  • @troyhiscock3984
    @troyhiscock3984 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey the best exercise is the one you like...its the one you will do.

  • @anvildo
    @anvildo Před 4 lety +15

    Using kettle bell as a auxiliary exercise I can do Multiple get ups with the 88 lb. bell. . They may not technically be strength exercises, but are so darn unenjoyable , get ups have to be good for you.

    • @greenwolf2299
      @greenwolf2299 Před 4 lety +2

      kettlebell swings are also very good for your posterior chain, your squats and deadlifts will benefit from that.

  • @AnthonyAcello
    @AnthonyAcello Před 4 lety +1

    At what age do you mean kids? And what age do you think these athletes should start the strength training?
    I'm concerned with figure and hockey skaters. Most of the skill they learn is at a young age.

  • @MikeXCSkier
    @MikeXCSkier Před 4 lety +50

    One of the things that Pavel has said is that based on Soviet sports science, lots of volume with a submaximal weight will increase strength. Dan John has confirmed this through his experience both personal and coaching athletes. I was also skeptical of this until I tried it myself. Rip also does what he does best and that is he creates a strawman. While it is true that athletes who compete in kettlebell sport, known as "girevoy sport," try to accumulate as many reps as possible in 10 minutes, this is not what Pavel recommends. Pavel recommends 5-10 reps with a kettlebell that is heavy for the particular person. Strong guys would be able to use a 32 kg KB but I seriously doubt they would be able to snatch a 32 for 10 minutes straight.
    The KB is a good tool to develop power without the learning curve of the Olympic lifts. I am a huge fan of the Olympic lifts and consider myself an Olympic weightlifter so I am not putting down the lifts. However, in order to get the most benefit from the lifts technique needs to be decent - not perfect but decent. A KB can be learned in 5 minutes. Buy or make a T handle and you can load the movement to well over 200 lbs. I would bet that a novice could attain a 200 lbs. swing faster than they could attain a 200 lbs. power clean.

    • @Re3iRtH
      @Re3iRtH Před 4 lety +3

      Correct, but what else you expect Rip to say? He is selling something. Even if Rip agreed with you and I it's not in his financial (or any) interest to say so.

    • @MrPureruckus
      @MrPureruckus Před 4 lety +4

      Lol swinging a kettle bell is the same as a clean? Dude ur hilarious

    • @imcoleyourenot8391
      @imcoleyourenot8391 Před 4 lety +2

      How is swinging a kettlebell the same as a damn clean? I love bells, but come on!

    • @MrPureruckus
      @MrPureruckus Před 4 lety +1

      @@imcoleyourenot8391 this guy gets it.

    • @maynardk1
      @maynardk1 Před 4 lety +3

      You're missing the point, swinging kettlebells around doesn't use as much muscle mass, range of motion, or allow for you to gain strength above the weight you have.
      Just ask yourself this:. "does swinging a 45 lbs dumbbell make you stronger than squatting 315?"

  • @edt8597
    @edt8597 Před 4 lety +6

    Zillionth repeat of Rip's *usual* stuff
    But don't mind periodic revision
    And always love Rip's commentary, whatever the subject 😂

  • @ba8e
    @ba8e Před 3 lety

    Awesome rant! Makes so much sense.

  • @AjaychinuShah
    @AjaychinuShah Před 3 lety +1

    The resistance load profile of Kettlebells has similarity with cables and bands. And I found it an excellent tool to have check boxed in the Arsenal.

  • @OfficialLeverKing
    @OfficialLeverKing Před 8 měsíci +1

    I agree with his assessment of kettlebells from his purely strength perspective. However, kettlebells are not about maximizing strength, they are about work output. The anecdote about the kettlebell champion who wouldn’t squat all the way sounds problematic. I’ve never met a kettlebeller who doesn’t make an attempt to go ass to grass on their squats.

  • @michaelday6987
    @michaelday6987 Před rokem

    This video was preceded by a Rogue Fitness CrossFit Ad to me.

  • @donjuanmckenzie4897
    @donjuanmckenzie4897 Před rokem

    Joe Wieder was thesis, crossfit was antithesis, rippetoe is synthesis, and his is the dominant fitness paradigm now

  • @AlexanderClark-zv9ne
    @AlexanderClark-zv9ne Před 11 měsíci

    It’s exactly as expected, a 30lb kettlebell. This is straight from the box, no issue with appearance and no problem with the grip. Good buy for the price.

  • @justinf1343
    @justinf1343 Před 2 lety

    These podcasts are brilliant 👍

  • @michaelfavata2720
    @michaelfavata2720 Před 3 lety +2

    46:38 is probably the best summation of Rip's argument. He doesnt provide a whole lot of evidence for it as much as he just makes assertions but this is where he's most specific. Now i don't know the science so well but Pavel often points out that strength is a skill often and this seems to be in tension with Rip's 2 factor model. The basic version as i understand it is that we can execute a movement with greater force through tearing muscle fibers or by changing the nervous system/brain. Through myelination, certain neural pathways and nervous system responses become more efficient and we grow stronger. Rip should dive into greater detail on this point that strength and skill are on entirely separate tracks instead of repeating the same basic assertions.

  • @ggrthemostgodless8713
    @ggrthemostgodless8713 Před 4 lety +2

    I love this guy... he's such a direct no bullshit asshole, I love this guy!!
    "...The sport you have chosen to compete in is just Not being Dead, Staying Alive, it's a very important sport, it's the one most of us participate in after we get out of school; now some of us stay in Master Swimming, some in mMaster's Lifting, you get to be fifty years old there are tennis leagues for old farts ..."
    LOVE this guy.

  • @briant7652
    @briant7652 Před 3 lety +1

    I do curls in the squat rack. You should too.

  • @usurper1991
    @usurper1991 Před 3 lety

    Whats mikes stance on a one leg barbell squat for unilateral strength for mma

  • @aimeenazroo665
    @aimeenazroo665 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for this!

  • @AldoRaineoftheBasterds
    @AldoRaineoftheBasterds Před 4 lety +1

    I park far away to get my walks in, but I have been noticing that I park up front at the liquor and ammo stores. My only 2 exceptions. Awesome content Mark.

  • @paoemantega8793
    @paoemantega8793 Před 4 lety +1

    "notice they never show her tail" hahahahahahaha... You should definitely do LSD and mushrooms, let us know what you think :)

  • @rurikbrackett4575
    @rurikbrackett4575 Před 4 lety +2

    I like kettlebells, to me there dumbbell replacement that you can do "conditioning" with. plus they don't encourage you to do many curls unlike dumbbells.

  • @Pussik
    @Pussik Před 4 lety +1

    Yeah! I wish to see Mark on Joe Rogan's podcast. That would bring popularity to strength training too and make world a better place.

  • @michaellegg1631
    @michaellegg1631 Před 4 lety

    If I'm gonna cut back on my squats because of my age, should I squat Monday and Friday or or Monday and Wednesday. I guess what I mean is how many days can I skip without my squat suffering?

  • @caspererasmus7480
    @caspererasmus7480 Před 4 lety +3

    If I understand between training and practice, here are my 2cents as a runner... Strength Training would be weights (i.e. squats, deadlifts etc.) and core. This would create stronger runner that would be able to execute the practice sessions for running.
    Practice would be practicing at different paces and distances (i.e. speed sessions, lactate threshold sessions, etc.) in order for the Performance you're aiming for (i.e. 10000m track race, marathon, etc.)

    • @jabberwock14
      @jabberwock14 Před 4 lety +1

      Training involves the acquisition of an adaptation. Strength can be trained, but endurance is also an adaptation. Metabolic/structural changes are taking place in training.

    • @jabberwock14
      @jabberwock14 Před 4 lety +1

      Practice would be the honing of a skill, like a baseball pitch or a heavy snatch. Practice is only the specific application of the adaptation you acquired *through training*

    • @dafunkmonster
      @dafunkmonster Před 4 lety

      “Strength Training would be weights (i.e. squats, deadlifts etc.) and core.”
      There is no “core” training you can do that will strengthen your abs and back faster than squats and deadlifts.

  • @lostandfoundphil2038
    @lostandfoundphil2038 Před 4 lety

    commuting, i get asked alot why i dont go to another place of work and make more money... i work 10 minutes away from home if i hit both lights.. i value my "free time" more then any amount of money

    • @ggrthemostgodless8713
      @ggrthemostgodless8713 Před 4 lety +1

      Same here man... I work at home for two to four hours a day, and make my own schedule, people don't value freedom until they taste it.
      I am 51 and can squat 455 lbs, DL495, 8-12 chins, etc ... all that is possible because of the freedom I have to do what it takes.
      I hear all my neighbours leaving and coming and going EARLY and dealing with kids telling them to fuck off, etc.... and THEY tell me why don't I get my girlfriend to live with me, or get a "real" job even though I make more than they do. They say their job gives them "stability" and mine is not a sure thing... go figure!! often it is them who ask me for loans!! Incredible.

  • @armenalexanian
    @armenalexanian Před 2 lety

    This is by far Rip at his very best!

  • @943Monty
    @943Monty Před 3 lety +1

    I could watch Rip’s thumbs talk for hours.

  • @twinzoski
    @twinzoski Před 4 lety

    What are the best ways to get better overhead position in the press? Stretching strengthening advice?? Thanks!

    • @nolanstojentin8086
      @nolanstojentin8086 Před 4 lety +1

      twinzoski go to catalyst athletics channel. Gregg Everett runs it and has great stretches that are simple and effective for Olympic lifting which is the same position you need for overhead press

  • @Ireallydonotunderstand

    Training for a marathon I would think would b along the lines of intervals and running faster than u would in the marathon but not anywhere near as long...where practice would be mimicking the pace and length of the end race such as a marathon...just my opinion...beyond that I love the content sir

  • @whiteguard2711
    @whiteguard2711 Před 4 lety

    Pretty sure the cartilage in my knees is completely fucked, will squats and deadlifts help in anyway?

  • @StefsFrameOfReference
    @StefsFrameOfReference Před 2 lety

    The intro music slaps

  • @lilgloom9858
    @lilgloom9858 Před 4 lety

    The best coach!

  • @stevepace-first8617
    @stevepace-first8617 Před rokem +1

    Mushrooms do not make you vomit. You are thinking of something like AYAHUASCA which is totally unrelated. Mushrooms grow here in the UK I can get on my bike to a local field, about 15 minutes, pick hundreds. Will they change your life - I think so, yes, they can have a profound effect. But so does powerlifting... there is a certain overlap, there is a certain intensity involved, a certain sharpening , a certain overcoming of fear, demanding resilience, demanding overcoming discomfort, coming through the other side. Take running a 5k hard for a PR. It feels horrible. But afterwards you feel great. Maybe the theme is overcoming.

  • @jameswestfall4459
    @jameswestfall4459 Před rokem

    Maybe their job that requires a 3.5 hour round trip travel pays significantly more than anything within a 60-90 minute round trip commute. That type of commute is worth a 50-100% pay increase in my opinion

  • @jms0313
    @jms0313 Před 3 lety +2

    The Dave Ramsey of fitness

  • @rodolfooviedo6542
    @rodolfooviedo6542 Před 4 lety

    What about training rotational force with a cable machine in addition to classic strength exercises? Wouldn't that add strength to a tennis player?

    • @georgechristiansen6785
      @georgechristiansen6785 Před 4 lety

      It could help at some point, but you get rotational strength for free from the other stuff. Same with why you don't need any direct ab work for quite a while.
      A genuine problem arises when the strength movements are too close to thr skill. It actially messes with motor patterns. The most extreme and worst case is weighted bats, rackets, ect. have negative effects.

    • @juansamudio1171
      @juansamudio1171 Před 3 lety

      Lateral flexion and anti rotation both are key for rotational sport athletes. Rotational movements often require an intense stretch through the core; as a consequence of hip and shoulder separation. To optimize performance and prevent injury, athletes must develop strength in those positions. So I see what Rip is talking about but you have to realize functional training is just standing on a body ball and causing instability but it’s more of exercises that work several muscle groups simultaneously. Functional training helps with stabilizer muscles which are a huge help when it comes to strength training. In fact coming from rehab a bosu ball will come in handy along side with unique weights but if you notice therapy doesn’t just consist of functional training but also resistance training. Functional training improves balance, agility and muscle strength, and mobility which can all help with traditional strength training. They also help reduce the risk of falls. Yea strength training is great for performance but keep in mind they’re always exceptions, if you go to the circus and see these people balance on balls. They don’t practice that by just doing leg strength exercises, yea im sure they have done strength exercises to get stronger but they also practice on a lot of unstable surfaces because for them it’s a necessity while for us who the hell balances on a ball every day? Not many people unless your hiking and you like jumping on rocks sure some single leg stability exercises will help but you have to realize functional training is the classification of exercise which involves training the body for the activities performed in daily life. Because functional training focuses on training movements not muscles, but I mean if you’ve never done functional training and you always do strength training you’ll see some growth in functional since it’s a new stimulus for a bit. But at the end of the day the best thing you can do is functional bodybuilding(or strength resistance) training combine to have a lot of power and strength but also have great mobility and agility for your daily movements.

  • @mrenovatio3739
    @mrenovatio3739 Před 4 lety +18

    Taking hallucinogens doesn't give you a window into hidden truths, it's just a hallucination....

    • @BlGGESTBROTHER
      @BlGGESTBROTHER Před 3 lety +8

      So what? Hallucinogens aren't useful because they give you access to some hidden truth. They are useful because they let you view the world in a different way. They can turn the mundane nature of day to day life on its head and help the user see things in a novel way. That's their power.

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 Před 3 lety

      @@BlGGESTBROTHER exactly

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 Před 3 lety +2

      they can let you see the truths that are hidden in and by your own mind, like therapy

    • @crucifixgym
      @crucifixgym Před rokem

      @@mihailmilev9909 some people think it’s a spectator sport like watching television, other people know it’s an exposition of meaning and understanding. It’s like 2 categories of people, the kind who use their minds and those who don’t.

  • @Anduehan97
    @Anduehan97 Před 3 lety +23

    heavy kettlebell swings are money for improving deadlift lockout, also burns calories and improves endurance, they're just another tool in the toolbox

    • @Mr-mopar
      @Mr-mopar Před 3 lety +1

      Yep..I am using them and rdl to help with my deadlift

    • @bramlilipory4116
      @bramlilipory4116 Před 3 lety +1

      Crush, your 75 * 32 kg kettlebell swings. That's awesome.
      I 've seen a guy doing a 90kg kettlebell shoulderpress from standstill. Now, that's strength.
      Would like to see somebody do a 90kg kettlebell snatch. Without a swing of ofcourse.

    • @Anduehan97
      @Anduehan97 Před 3 lety

      @CrusherSaiyanCorps that's not strength training because it's too light for you, not because kettlebell training isn't strength training

    • @joebloggs6922
      @joebloggs6922 Před 3 lety

      @Crusher Corps Get a heavier kettlebell then.......that's the fault of your gym not having a heavier one, not the fault of kettlebell training itself

  • @dannyhardesty3692
    @dannyhardesty3692 Před 4 lety

    I want a moustache like RIP.

  • @juncruz3685
    @juncruz3685 Před 4 lety +12

    i think kettlebell is not for to get strong but for more GPP. i do powerlifting and i do kettlebell. u cant use a drill to cook a potato. different tools for different purpose

  • @fabiotieri3155
    @fabiotieri3155 Před 3 lety +1

    When Joe Rogan had Neil de Grass Tyson as a guest, they talked also about what Rips refers to as the difference between *training* and *practice* .
    Rips makes the example of baseball and clubs, Neil made the one of a basketball player and a heavier ball, which was wrong, while the right thing to do was shooting at a smaller hoop, to improve technique.
    So long story short, Rips knows his stuff.