We Didn't Expect THIS at the Irish Electrical Wholesaler...
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Electricians rely on electrical wholesalers for their essential supplies, making them the backbone of the industry. Wholesalers offer everything needed for electrical installation, ensuring smooth job workflow. In this video, we explore an Irish electrical wholesaler and compare it to what we see in the UK. Join us for an enlightening look into the world of electrical wholesalers.
Thanks to @Ledgrouprobus for arranging this visit and the excellent team at Edmundson Electrical in Dublin.
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00:00 Edmundson Electrical Dublin.
00:26 What's the coffee like.
01:05 Mystery box
02:06 Coffin box
02:34 Irish consumer units
03:26 Irish cables
04:05 Pink cables
04:45 IS10101 ?????
05:03 Meanwhile, in the Robus section
06:15 EV Chargers & Fireman's switches
08:27 Time for a round of golf
08:45 Underpants in the mystery box
09:10 Wago's in Ireland?
09:40 The same but different!
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Ireland is miles ahead of most countries it seems
Seems much more relaxed
But also more strict on what you can and can't do
First wholesaler Iv ever seen in Ireland with coffee darts and golf, think they may have put it in abit for ye 😂😂
Not at all put on Jerome. You're welcome in any time to check us out and throw a few darts, have a coffee whilst we get your order ready 🙂
Not just Ireland, fixed equipment is anything over 13amps thus requires a double pole isolater simultaneously accessible to the equipment (BS7671) you might be asked to retrofit every EV charger you ever installed. It's just like a shower or an oven or AC unit
The one thing i do want from this is the earths in t&e being the same mm2. Would make achieving zs much less of a pain.
Is it against the regs i use that irish t&e in the UK?
Great bunch of lads showing you around
Always called a Hager j501 a coffin ⚰️ because of the shape
Great video, you should try organise to do a video with the ESB, they would have shown you some of the power plants.
We’d love to do that - we’ll be back!’
You could also do a video on two way switching, we don't use three core and earth!
You could try Ardnacrusha on the river Shannon - first hydro power station in Ireland - built by Siemens back in the day - It's why Ireland use 230V - Built in 1920 by Siemens - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_hydroelectric_scheme
Having served my time in the UK before moving over in the early 90’s, totally different in many ways, 6243y 3 core T&E go to way of wiring 2 way switching in UK, never used here, capping for cables very rarely used oval conduit used. 1.0mm never used 1.5mm minimum even for lighting
Didn’t know that about the 2 way switching - are contactors used instead?
@@efixx no PVC PVC single and twin brown
@@irechopshop not PVC/PVC anymore - minimum standard for all cables is Dca, -s2, d2, a2. It's a LS0H version rather than PVC.
@@efixx No switch feed one side, feed at the other strappers in between. The English way of having the feed and switch feed at both switches is never done here.
We don't use NYM-J in Ireland anymore, it's NHXMH-J now. It's a LSFZH version
Enlightening!
Near enough is good enough in Ireland, did make me chuckle 😅
Brilliant video.
Wow what a difference. It is compared to the UK I hope you enjoyed your time in my home country,
Great video Gordon as always 👍
Good choice of Edmundson, thus allowing a really good comparison with the UK stores- the golf and darts made me chuckle.. I was wondering if branches in Northern Ireland operate in a similar fashion? I didn't quite follow how their wiring regs compare with ours- I know that you have visited installations in Europe so perhaps one of your videos could examine the differences between UK and other European standards. Does RoI use ring circuits like us?
Is it illegal to use Irish/European cables in the UK?
Just checked one of my rooms and it's a radial , if that helps, think they are moving away from ring as it can be dangerous, if it breaks you could draw too much current down a cable not fit for it.
They aren’t recognised with a BS number or harmonised standard so would be a departure from the regs
Rings are not against regulations but you’ll hardly ever come across them
Ring final circuits are permitted - protected by a 32A MCB or 35A fuse, although are very uncommon. However unfused spurs have been prohibited for many years.
Nice video, hope you had time for a pint 😂😂
I wouldn’t have time to play games and drink coffee at my wholesalers. All I want to do is get my job done . More work time more money and more free time when I finish early
Just think of the prizes in the mystery 📦 box
The Irish well ahead of the game and fully on spec with the regs as usual but really non branded Pot Noodles is that even a thing in the UK or Ireland?
Will try them on next visit 😉
Glad everyone had their hi-viz on to avoid being hit by... someone walking too fast to the counter?
😂
You must have brought the good weather over to Dublin.
Thought it was always sunny in Dublin 😃
@@efixx haha
And you stole the sun from benidorm in spain for a bit lol
Seems strange as ireland not to far away and some things are very different 🤔
Come on over to the USA and see the 120V world of materials
We’d love to 👍
Jurassic world 🤣
I kinda want to see the "pig willies" wire plug he mentioned 😂
We’ll try to get some
Interesting
Ireland seems way ahead in their products and standards.
Influence from the continent
Not really, they may use lsf cable but I bet they don't use lsf conduit, trunking, clips etc, and if that's the case I see no point in using lsf cable.
And if you are in a building where the fire has breached the barriers, and fumes are the issue, guess what you will probably be dead by then.
@@acelectricalsecurity your just a fountain of positivity ain’t ya.
Always think every little bit counts.
wow Ireland electrical cable very similar to what we use here in Australia twin core and earth TPS
We hear about all the innovations you gave in Oz - we’ll have to visit 😉
Your earth is much smaller like 2.5mm².
@@IAmThe_RA yeah for mainly used for power points and lighting we use 1.5mm
@@hazzt6298 I mean all the 3 conductors in Irish cables are of the same size which is not the case in Australia.
@@IAmThe_RA that is true earthing conductors a slightly smaller in diameter but you look in the uk the earthing conductors don’t have a sheathing from the manufacturer process only after is installed can you elaborate on this more please thanks 🙏
It was interesting, but very difficult to hear. You need a hand held microphone.
Electrical components on our side of the Atlantic seems crude compared to yours. Ours is safe, while yours is safe and elegant.
Which countries do you mean by "yours" and "ours"?
Why is everyone wearing safety vests? Are there a lot of collisions due to fog in the store?
Everyone loves a hivis
If you’s don’t use nymj in the uk what do you use for running commercial circuits on cable trays and such? Hardly twin and Earth?
Hi tuff
@@Nispark There's probably a difference in price between both. NYM-J is actually a national German cable standard, and Hi Tuff is a product of a single manufacturer.
NYM uses actually the old pre-harmonisation german cable designation system that describes how the cable is constructed from the inside to outside.
N=normalised cable type
Y=wire insulation made of PVC
M=mantle cable
And the -J tells us that one of the cores is a green/yellow insulated wire. The other option is -O (big o), there is no green/yellow insulated wire inside. Instead one of a different colour. For example when having 3x1.5mm², on NYM-J you got brown, blue and green/yellow. On a 3x1.5mm² NYM-O you got brown, blue and black. Not a big thing anymore since we bring the CPC now to almost everything, even if not needed now it can be a thing in the future. But back then it was a big thing for light switches.
Aluminium conductor is also in that system, that would be NAYM. So NYM is always copper, if someone tries to sell you NYM with aluminium, that's fake cable.
Same system applies for NYY cable. And another remnant is the NYIF cable, which is probably only permitted in Germany. But no one uses it here anymore. Flat cable for installation below plaster, PVC insulated wires, rubber sheath. Back then it was cheap, permitted for dry rooms only and not permitted to bring into contact with combustible building materials like wood. Now these days we mostly use NYM indoors and NYY outdoors. And the price advantage isn't that big anymore, and NYM is more flexible in its application than NYIF. NYA single insulated wires for installation in conduit was replaced by H07V-U.
Armoured most of the time which is daft
@@Nispark Yes, there are several differences. For example the Twin and Earth cables are banned here for several reasons:
1. The CPC must be marked green/yellow over the whole length of the cable. Exception is cables with a concentic CPC, for example NYCY.
2. Smallest permitted conductor size for fixed installation is 1.5mm² copper (for aluminium it is 16mm² since 1973 in West Germany and 1990 in East Germany). So no 1mm². That has no electrical reason, the VDE did that due to mechanical stability of copper conductors.
3. Between 1.5 and 16mm² the CPC must be the same size as the line conductor. Between 16 and 35mm² a CPC of 16mm² is sufficient. 35mm² line or larger a CPC of half the size of the line is sufficient.
4. Stranded conductors have to start at 16mm², smaller conductor sizes must be solid core.
And to make the thing complete: We can have socket outlets in bathrooms. Since 1984 they must be protected by a 30mA RCD. And since 1987 by a type A RCD, since the type AC RCDs were banned for new installation back then.
Currently on a large commercial job, uk, and all power/lighting circuits are wired in the white LSF /LSOH t&e on tray. Its quite common to find it done this way
Where are you in Ireland? I would go to meet you guys
They were in Dublin based on another reply
Likely back in the uk now though at a guess
Will be back 👍
@@efixx when? I really wanna meet you guys
Your experience in an electrical wholesaler is Ireland is entirely dependent on the person serving you!! Like if you know what i mean
I have heard them referred to as coffin boxes on CZcams before! ⚰️
Do you use them ?
@@efixx Yes
Sound bunch of lads in glasnevin, you couldn't have picked a better wholesales to go into. They need more ginger nut biscuits at the tea station but 😉
😂
The presenter's first line is about the sunny weather when it clearly isn't....
Interesting video, I’m not keen on the plastic CCU’s though.
Most of Europe uses plastic
🇮🇪🇮🇪
When did you guys originally go to Ireland lol cos the April Fool's was April 😅
March
@@efixx well played 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🤣
Any external isolator people will just switch off for shit's & giggles
Sure it happens
I think they just copied French distribution boards. I like them more especially on wall a wall that is all concrete.
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Pardon my ignorance but isn't Ireland part of the UK?
NI only
It's a republic.
Full country title is The United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Wales & Scotland) and Northern Ireland. Only the north-eastern part at the top of Ireland is part of the UK.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland for the full story.
Nope ireland isn't part of the uk
Unless you mean Northern Ireland which is in the uk