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- In this one I’m changing the Sautershop milling motor and lift for the AUK router and Jessem lift. Enjoy!
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I find I spend more time making things FOR my workshop, than making things IN my workshop. I enjoy it too 🤓
With you brother. Remember when we got into this hobby because we thought it would be cheaper to make our own than buy it?
Same. Still enjoy every minute of it. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺
Woodworking is my hobby. Most days I make stuff to make stuff or make stuff to store stuff I use to make stuff. Sometimes I make stuff for others and once in a great while I make stuff just for me. The truth is I really enjoying making stuff. 😊
Sure thing.
With a propper preparation the result's quality enhances.
Woodworking also helps with finding an acceptable excuse for purchasing beautifull looking tools.
Ime to
I agree with JS, especially if I had such a beautiful shop as yours Peter...cheers...rr Normandy, FRa
Got exactly the same motor and nvr switch. I was waiting for someone to produce exactly this pairing, and as far as I know Woodworkers workshop are the only ones to provide such a unit in the uk. Had it nearly a year now and I’m absolutely delighted with it. It’s comfortably paid for itself in time savings. I should state that I didn’t have a router table beforehand.
Thanks, we developed the remote NVR switch a few years ago, I am a furniture maker by trade and always thought it dangerous to be putting your hand under the table fumbling for the switch. Thank you for your support.
Both absolutely wonderful and drool worthy bits of kit!
Nice blend of creativity and cohesion with the camera placements and editing.
Thank you! 👍
I admire your patience, I think that I would have put my foot through the bench after that many adjustments.
Hi Peter, have to say I learn new tips watching your videos, thank you
Steve
Thanks Steve! 🙌
Nice bit of kit !
Just got tome to comment, watched on wife's account before, nice video mare tidy change install
Cheers Dan! 👍
Love this. I just received the Jess Em lift for my birthday, but still have to build my bench. Can’t wait to try it out. Thanks, Peter!
If you require ant technical support give us a shout, otherwise enjoy!
I have the Jessem and love it.... 2 years now
Built to last and we are able to supply spares from JessEm for even older designs.
I've had a JessEm Rout-R-Lift for years (15+ maybe?). I have the flat height adjustment tool and I can really spin it for gross adjustment. Not a big fan of the bayonet rings in the middle. Sometimes they really get jammed in there! No mounting flange to bear against so it's nice to see that upgrade. Use it in good health!
Nice to see how easily they can be changed out - apart from the need to re-rout the edges. One day there'll be standard sizes for common components but maybe not in my lifetime.
All the JessEm and Incra lifts and plates we sell are the American standard size (9¼ x 113/4") 235mm x 298mm. The German made Marman/Sauter tilting lift we stock also has this plate size to match the MDF template and stainless steel insert plate Peter is using.
I bought the AUKTools router two years ago from WWW Ltd. It is attached to the Incra Mast-R-Lift II and is surrounded by the CleanSweep box, with the control box on the end of the router table. I added two sets of quick disconnect connectors to the 6-conductor cable between the control box and the motor. One set is inside the CleanSweep box and the other set is between the CleanSweep box and the router table enclosure. This allows me to remove the router/lift assembly from the table and remove the router table top or CleanSweep box from the frame without removing the control box. I wasn't concerned about the warranty since I had to also change the UK-style power plug with a Schuko plug.
Thanks for the video, hope you have a great Christmas and NewYear Peter.👍👍
Thanks! You too! 👍
Some crazy prices on these lifts.
Smooth 1:35 ! 😂😂 Nice kit too!
boy i was surprised by how nice those surface cracks disappeared with the sanding residue i missed the table build will have to go back and catch it what is it made of?? liked the integrated switch and controller think you will like it , good luck from Oklahoma
Thanks! It’s made from a dark grey coloured MDF called Fibracolour from Finsa - I’ve used it on all my benches. And yes, looking forwards to giving the router a proper run! 👍👍
Peter,you'll love the master lift 2.I sell the unit in my store.I absolutely love your small shop and the tidy Ness therein.
Thanks! 👍
The good thing is now you'll be able to swap your new Jessem/AUK solution for Incra's plates and their clean sweep magnetic metal inserts which are very good (I have two such plates, one for a TRA001 router and another for a bosch 1617EVS router and can highly recommend them). The Incra and Jessem plates are the same size IIRC, which is a big plus in my book.
I'm wondering if you ever did make use of the tilt capability of the Sautershop plate.
We have several router table set ups in our workshop including the Incra Mast-R-lift with MagnaLOCK Clean Sweep insert plates and Clean Sweep box, fantastic for housings and any work where the fence dust extraction is covered over. We also have a TRA001 on a Incra 7518-T plate, possibly the most economical pre-drilled set up for above the table adjustment. We have the Marman (Sauter) tilting lift but have not required that function yet, all our lifts are the same US standard size so east for us to demonstrate all options.
My Sautershop lift is a non-tilting version. 👍
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The Incra 7518-T and TRA001 set up is good provided one has good access underneath the table to the locking mechanism and to the power switch/spindle lock of the TRA001.
Arguably the Incra 690890 / Bosch 1617EVS (North american 110V router) setp up is as good for a little bit less money (it is a little bit less powerful, but it is also more compact).
Both provide over the table adjustment with no additional accessories and are compatible with collets from 6mm/ 1/4" to 12mm / 1/2". The advantage of the Bosch router is that additional bases (plunging or fixed) are readily available, which means that one can very easily swap between under table and hand held applications.
Wow, £810 for a router and lift! 💷
Way, way, way beyond the resources of this workshop.
Hello Peter,
another very informative video from a very skilled Brit.
My thoughts on router lifts is :-
1/ as most routers have depth adjustment "built in " why on earth do you need a router lift?
With some minor mods to th baseplate of most routers you can adjust the depth from above the table top just the same as the triton does , dont forget, not everyone can afford the daft prices being asked for router lifts .
I wish you every success in all your coming videos and look forward to nlearning a lot more from your good self.
In the Uk only a few routers have built in above the table adjustment, the Incra MagnaLOCK 7518-T is pre-drilled for both fixing and adjusting the Tritons. The Incra MagnaLOCK 621625 AL is pre-drilled for the old Elu 177, DeWalt 625 and the Trend T11 which has above table winding capabilities, great combos when set up.
That lift looks awesome, I’m still using my old Porter Cable 7518 3 1/4hp and twisting for height adjustment in my CMT table. Might have to upgrade to the 21st century 🤣
I’ll definitely be checking into that! Thank you!
Hi Peter, cheers for the video. I bought this combo a few weeks ago with the Incra plate, it'll be interesting in your longer term feedback. Mine replaced a Triton TRA001 which now feels like a toy in comparison, the AUK certainly cuts smoother with less chatter and more power authority.
However, like you, I have niggles. Yes, that clamp hex bolt didn't fit right either and TBH having anything to do with the lift (or plate in my instance) being imperial which is a real PITA. I noticed that in the promotional videos the router seems to have a thick silicone cable coming from the NVR and the cable it came with is a bit cheap and not what I'd expect from this price point. I ended up removing the crimped connectors and feeding through which I am glad I did as one wasn't fitted properly and they were all loose. It also had sharp edges on the casting of the red plastic which again, felt like a Katsu special.
The motor takes an eon to spin down or change speeds.
Also, do you find the E-stop button excessively proud? I've knocked it several times and wondered why it wouldn't start up!
Sorry, that was a bit of a whinge-dump but it's just been compounded by missing your discount! Would be interested in your thoughts.
Thanks! I’ll have a much more informed impression of the combo after I’ve used it a bit, but interesting to hear you also had issues with the allen key. The spin up / wind down hasn’t felt excessively long to me, but it may become more of an issue as I use it! Re the stop button, I initially thought the router was broken as it wouldn’t turn on; turns out I hadn’t realised that mine had the stop button already depressed! It pulls out quite a long way, and of course if a hand is incapacitated you want to be able to nudge the switch with a hip or leg to shut everything down. Haven’t caught it accidentally (yet) but as I say, it’s only just gone in the bench. More to follow on this one! 👍👍
I like the look of the speed controller on this unit Peter.
If you are looking to declutter the workshop by getting rid of an old router plate….. I am just down the road 😉
Pleased you like our unique remote speed control, it's a real safety feature, never a good idea to have your hands under the table trying to find controls.
I have had the Incra Jessem lift/plate and the 2400w AUK router sitting in my office looking longingly at me while I get around to installing them. I noted too that the very long hex driver they include doesn't actually fit into the lift mechanism to open it up as you found, though it does fit into the winding and locking mechanism on the top of the plate. When you've dropped near £900 on the router, lift and cleansweep plates you'd think they'd get bits like that right.
Interesting, thanks! Yes, odd lack of attention to detail at this kind of price-point. 👍
Sorry you have had an issue with the hex drive, I have been in contact with JessEm regarding this today. It appears some of the hex bars may have had a thicker zinc coating than specified, this has now been rectified in the production process. We will happily have it back for inspection but the issue should be easily be resolved by light rubbing with a Scotchbrite pad.
Instead of using an awl and eyeballing the hole centers you could use a self centering drill bit.
Yep. Always handy for folks who can’t find the centre of a hole. 👍
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very nice the new setup,. Btw, has the same wattage as the Triton.
Both routers have 2400w input, the AUK has 1800 output whereas the Triton is 1500 but some good design features.
UK versions of the Triton (TRB001) were 2000w input. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop sorry just didn't get it first off, I thought routers were the same, stand corrected. While the Sauter table is beautifully hewn and all, but the Jessem router lift looks pretty slick too. Enjoy the endless hours to come!
Much better siting if the emergency stop. Reaching over to hit it was always a bad idea
Easy enough to whack it with an elbow; current placement is easy to nudge with a leg/hip. 👍
Couple of absolute jewels of lifts there mate. Tough times😁 The AUK seems to take a good few seconds to ramp up by the sound of it (and slow down). Don't know if that's irritate me or not. Nice bit of grunt though. Any raffle tickets left for the sauter?😉
Cheers Stew! Yes, the struggle is real! I’ll know more when I start to use it properly, of course, but having the extractor on auto-start didn’t help with the apparent ramp-up / down. 🤷♂️👍
Hi Peter, I have the Jessem router lift too but find that when you set it, the operation of locking it causes a height adjustment of a few hundredths of a millimeter each time. (If you repeatedly lock/unlock it, it "walks a ways" before moving no more.) Even when locked, after operating the router, the ending height is sometimes lower than before the cut by a few hundreds of a millimeter. Do you have the same experience with yours? (I can't swear whether it's lift error or Wixey height gauge error, but it's annoying.) I'm also happy with the much quieter AUK motor I have but alas I got it just before the new version that takes the ER-20 collets so I'm still stick with the older type...
I use the iGaging Snap Check for my router cutter height set up, like the Wixey the readout is very sensitive and accurate and can change a few hundreds of mm with hand pressure. I am old school so always adjust my machines on the upstroke of the threads, there should be no need on the Incra and JessEm lifts as they both have backlash nuts built in. It could be yours needs a slight tweak, I have not found mine moving when or once it's locked off. If you are having issues give us a call. We also have offer an upgrade discount for owners of previous versions on our AUK routers - just incase you feel the need.
What's the material of that top? It looks similar to MDF but when you drilled it it looked almost like foam. Just curious as it looks rather nice.
It’s Fibracolour from Finsa, a coloured throughout MDF that yes, is quite soft at the core. Machines up lovely though! 👍
I wonder what material kind of worktop that is? I use plywood but I keep my workbench outside and always gets weather damaged so wanted a weatherproofed worktop
It’s Fibracolour from Finsa - a coloured throughout MDF, so not at all weatherproof I’m afraid. 🤷♂️👍
Thanks for the reply nice to know though as building a router bench also , many thanks @@10MinuteWorkshop
Have you come across the Dust Router from Milescraft? It’s a hose kit and a silicone adapter that fits under the router insert ring for dust extraction. I have a similar motor to your new one and it fits OK.
We had a sample a few years ago, we have just taken on Milescraft so will look into getting them in stock, thanks for the reminder!
No, I haven’t - I’ll check it out, thanks! 👍
How are you liking the microjig set up on your MFT?
Mixed feelings tbh. Too much muscle-memory on the MFT for me to get comfortable with it, probably.
@@10MinuteWorkshop Interesting, something to think about before I go hog wild with the router. I've found them more helpful with a slot in my bench as a faux moxon vise
Are there any "advanced" router lifts that actually accepts regular hand routers like a Triton? It seems they all work with router spindles only.
I have a Triton attached to an Incra plate which leverages the Triton's built-in lift, but the motion it rough and the lift locking mechanism is on the machine, so not easy to get at when it's enclosed in a cabinet.
I’m not aware of any, no.
Jessem do a version of the lift in this video for plunge routers, called the rout r lift prestige. Woodworkers workshop in the UK sell that version as well.
I buy your old one now😂
Peter, I very impressive video indeed. Please tell me what is the dark grey/black material your router table top is made of. Thank you for your assistance which is appreciated.
Thank you! The bench tops are all Finsa Fibracolour in Anthracite. Probably best if you google them to find a local stockist. 👍
Dear Peter, Very grateful for your advice. Many thanks for your quick response.@@10MinuteWorkshop
shame such a premium product has cheapo insert rings, i like the incra clean sweep inserts, they are an option but dust collection is much improved.
I love my Incra MagnaLOCK inserts, these were invented and registered by Incra. JessEm invented the Tab-Loc insert rings which most other manufacturers have taken as the industry standard. Marman were inspired by the Incra magnetic plates but do not have the amazing adjustability and flatness.
15:40 No motor brake? That would be a deal breaker for me.
Hi Peter, how have you got on the the AUK motor. I have spoken to a few who have experienced problems with it? Len (Devon 🇬🇧)
Hi Len. It’s been flawless. Been using it a lot recently in the drawer box builds, and have had no issues at all, aside from the time it takes to stop! Been solid, smooth and powerful. 👍
Shame there isn't a standard size for the plates....
All the JessEm and Incra lifts and plates we sell are the American standard size (9¼ x 113/4") 235mm x 298mm. The German made Marman/Sauter tilting lift we stock also has the 235mm x 298mm plate size to match the MDF template and stainless steel insert plate Peter is using. Some newer router lift makers have opted for different sizes, which can lead to confusion.
@@WoodWorkersWorkshopLimited Interesting.
The perils of changing from one manfacturer to another. Nothing fits as well as it should.
This operation would ahve been mucheasier ifyou put threadedisertsin the bench ratherthan the nuts under the bench.
Nope.
All of our router tables come with pre installed threaded inserts but fitting them afterwards upside down sounds like a PITA
@@WoodWorkersWorkshopLimited Yeah but when you have the insert out allready it's pretty easy.
Dust ? 🤣😂🤣
plaese the router too .
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dear peter send my plaese de bleu routerlift .
i can just them verry much.