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- Hi everyone. In a late (in every sense) change to the expected schedule we go back in time in this video, to a job I did - my last big bathroom job) before I started making youtube videos. Enjoy - even if it wasn't what you were expecting. Have a great weekend, Peter.
A version of this video was first shown on my Patreon channel at / 10minuteworkshop , apologies to my Patreon supporters for the repeat.
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Tremendous job in a complicated room. This really shows what a professional you are and what an amateur I really am. Keep showing these!!
Hah, thank you! 👍👍
Great to see your work before YT. Always good to see others on their journey and that doing remodeling work before moving into fitted furniture has been a progression for someone else too. Thank you.
Thanks! 👍
The raised entrance stair was to keep the residents away friom the stench of the streets. Manure etc
Absolutely fantastic job! The curved wall is a great accent. Thanks for sharing, as I enjoy seeing a craftsman at work!
Thanks! 👍
Absolutely fantastic work!!! You always amaze me with your skills! Thanks for sharing, Peter
Thanks David! 👍
Thanks Peter stay safe ,did this sort of work myself for years now restoring furniture much kinder on the knees!
Cheers Paul! Yes, my knees - and lungs - are a lot happier these days! 😂😂👍👍
Lovely Job Peter
Great job Peter, i love jobs like that, from start to finish 👍
Nice job bro! I've been a fan for months now and this video just popped up on my feed today. I always enjoy seeing how fellow craftsman do their work. Its always educational and enjoyable to watch. Thanks for the tour!
Thanks! 👍
Lovely job Peter. Have a great weekend mate. Stay safe.
Thanks George! You too! 👍👍
Certainly is a long way up to that over head storage.
Nice job there, mate. 👍🏽
That curved skirting board looks flawless. 👌🏽
Thanks Bill! Yes, the storage was definitely for infrequently used items! 😂👍
Very nice job Peter! The curved wall was a brilliant idea. I can’t believe how small the bathroom is but everything is accounted for!
Thanks Ali! Yes, it’s certainly compact! 👍
Peter,You're a genius 👏
Thank you! 🙌
Great vid Peter, I am a bit surprised that you did not Tank/ Waterproof the room though.
Thanks! I did - asking for trouble otherwise, raised ground floor over a basement! 🤔👍
Ah the old herringbone struts in those underfloor shots. I remember having to do those at chippy college! Also lovely kerf cut skirting to make the curve.
Thanks! 👍👍
I can see why you have had a string of "good" clients down the years - the little touches make all the difference!
Thanks! 👍👍
I much prefer a windowless bathroom, one of my neighbours opposite doesn't seem to understand that you can see through frosted windows 🤮
Use a good extractor and you'll never miss the window!
Plus, for those that do makeup in the bathroom, not having to worry about natural light makes it easier to get a 'consistent finish', especially good when you take your selfie 😂
I’ll remember that the next time I’m having trouble with my makeup! 😂 Unfortunately windowless bathrooms get a bit of a bad rep due to poor conversions, particularly in the 70s, with insufficient extraction; often makes them quite dank places... 🤔
My friend lived in a house with a 1.8m diameter round window. It was completely sealed and when the exhaust fan was turned on, the waste pipes would begin to gurgle if the door wasn't kept open. Needed the air flow.
Weirdest shower I ever had, no privacy in that house.
Superb job, Peter. Brilliant solution to a difficult client request. What a shame you don't live closer to Bluffton, South Carolina :-(
Thanks David! And don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m glad I live where I do! 😂👍👍
Looks really nice, I would have been concerned about the ply / drywall join cracking, given it's proximity to potential humidity and temperature changes. I don't know if you've ever used pre-curfed curved plasterboard I haven't but have been around on jobs when it's being used, seemed to work really well, but no idea if it cracked later down line.
Nice job Peter, good use of space especially the storage area on top
Thanks Mark! Worked out ok! 👍👍
Nice job Peter good to see some of your other work.
Thanks Michael! 👍
"The biggest..." (pregnant pause while Peter stops himself saying 'ball ache' and searches for an alternative) "..... problem with it is."
😂👍👍 Mind reader!
Nice work Peter, particularly the rounded corner which makes a big difference .
Was expecting part 6 of CNC today when maybe you actually use it make something...
Thanks Tim. Yes, slight delay on that front. 🤷♂️👍
Hello , could you tell me what brand tape measure you have? thank you.
Great! I love watching.
Thanks! 👍
Hi Peter, as ever... Brilliant video
Steve
Cheers Steve! 👍
Keep well Peter!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Alan! You too! 👍👍
Great video Peter looking forward to the next one
Thanks! 👍
Nice job Peter
Nice job all round. We had neighbours with a windowless bathroom and I always thought it a bit odd. Cue buying our next (and current) house - yep, windowless bathroom! ;-) You get used to them.
We have a window that my wife always goes in and opens wide after I use the bathroom. I don't know why. It gets a bit cold in the winter.
@@markbryan9989 It's probably just the steam! Can't think what else would cause that reaction! ;-)
Thanks! I think windowless bathrooms get a bit of a bad rep because of iffy conversions in the 60s & 70s, where extraction/ventilation was a bit primitive - they can be a bit dank & gruesome after a while. 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop When all is said and done, you can't see out a bathroom window anyway
No waterproofing ??
Timber flooring in a Bathroom ?
How does this become acceptable in the UK ??
I worked over there and as a qualified builder from Australia was horrified at the lack of codes regarding bathrooms whilst working there .
Bathrooms in OZ must all be fully waterproofed over the entire room and up the walls on all sides in the shower .
Tile floors over sand & cement tile bed falling to a Mandatory floor waste ( plus one in shower recess )
prevents potential leaking from the room .
( still , there are issues with some installers but heavily reduced )
In the U.S., that bathroom would have been constructed with door going directly into the bedroom, so the bedroom becomes a "master bedroom", with it's own private bath. (The downstairs bathroom would have been designated as the common bath.) Is a master bedroom with its own bathroom not popular in the U.K.?
It was an option that was considered - they’re called ‘en suite’ bathrooms here - but the client decide against it as it would have involved breaking through a 100+ year old lath & plaster wall. 🤷♂️
Nice tidy job Peter
Thanks Craig! 👍
I am curious about the drywall protection of the shower, don't see any membrane or wedi type of board.
Hello Peter, very nice work and use of not much space. The bit I struggle a bit with, is the sequence of operations. I guess, getting that wrong would make all the difference to a profitable job?
Hi Steve, and thanks! Yes, getting the sequence wrong can cost a lot of time, and money, especially when other trades are involved. 👍
Lovely! A project to be proud of!
Thanks Johann, 👍
Peter, and doing the tiles!! I did it once just to see what it was like. Never did tiling after that! 😂
Those blue mosaic tiles were the same type I did - back in 1997!!
Top quality! 😆👍👍
great job done.
Very interesting video (and job). Thanks for sharing. I wonder if the wooden construction you made isn't moving more than the whole building. That bent outer wall gives it a very distinguished look. Nice picture under the floor with the acoustic wiring.
Thanks Hans! 👍
Would love to hear about your prior prior career, the photography business!
Haha, not much to tell tbh, but maybe one day... 🤷♂️👍
No water proofing required?
I'm intrigued by the picture behind your imac....
Family photos - I take them down it crop them out these days. 👍
Very nice. Good call on the curved corner. Nicest room in the house, I’m sure!
Thanks! Certainly the most modern! 👍👍
I would worry about curved plywood expansion and contraction with humidity. You can form curves using 1/4 inch dry wall if you wet it with spray.When dry put second piece on same way. You now have 1/2 inch drywall curve. Trim edges after installation. Good for archways too.
I guess we all worry about different things. Nearly 10 years in and it’s absolutely fine 👍👍
Very nice job. Have a nice Day.
👍 nice job Peter.
Thanks! 👍
nice video Peter thanks
Cheers Michael! 👍
I should probably be able to figure this out, but was the (curved) ply the same width as the plasterboard? If not how did you butt them up?
Pretty sure I t was half the thickness - 6mm bendy ply vs 12mm plasterboard - so it had a double skin. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you for taking the time to reply.
"That is what the plumbers did because that is what the plumbers do!" After executing a repair two weeks ago in my home, I am convinced I would not have lasted long as a plumber! Nice job, well done. I agree the curved wall has a much nicer appearance. Thanks Peter. Please stay safe and healthy.
Thanks Mark! Yes, I was pleased how it turned out. And you too! 👍👍
Great video as always, and always very inspiring. When you did the job, you didn't have a plasterer come in to do any plastering work? A British friend who now works in Canada tells me that over there they tend only to fill the gaps between plasterwork, but I've not found much information about how this is done.
Thanks! No, for smaller little bits and pieces like this I just ‘tape & fill’ - or ‘drywall’ as our American/Canadian cousins call it. Works well in small areas. 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thanks - I'll try to find out more information from my buddy about how they do the tape and fill approach. While I'm here - I thought I might show you a bank of cabinets and boot storage that were inspired by your shaker door video and tracksaw workshop - I couldn't have done it without you - so thank you! The wife loves them. imgur.com/a/SGkOra7
Great detailed vid. So nice watching Uk ones as opposed to the us ones.
If you get time to answer, Out of interest what did you charge for that kind of job. Just a ball point figure if you feel comfortable saying. Cheers
amazing work, really interesting video
Thank you! 👍👍
Blast from the past 😎
Oh yes! 😆👍👍
Hi Peter, thank you for taking us on this great trip in time and a very nice job, one question I would have.
I liked very much what you did with the rounded corner and I would like to ask you what have you used on the wood for adherence ?
Thanks Miro! Just my regular PVA - it was probably PolyTen PVA back then, but I find them all to be pretty similar tbh. 🤷♂️👍
Nice job. I’m slightly surprised you didn’t use mr plaster boards.
Thanks Gregory! The enclosure was tanked so it wasn’t necessary, though if I was doing it now I’d probably use cement board. That said all my early bathrooms, starting with my own, were tile over plasterboard and I’ve never had one leak 🤷♂️👍
Not sure how long ago that was but not Aqua Panel in the shower area!
First floor, so the whole thing was tanked.
I surprised there aren't more comments asking about the tanking of the area given that it looks like normal plasterboard was used. Mind you, some people are under the impression that MR Plasterboard is good enough to tile onto in a shower area which normally comes back to bite then.
@@rodgerq I always ('tanked') or not use cement board as the tiles adhere to it better IMHO ( I was a Tiler for 15 odd years)
Nice work.
Thanks! 👍
V. nice, thanks Peter. Like everyone else here, I love the curved wall. What niggles about this job is the lower height of the new door and the new door trim that doesn't match the bedroom (at 15:54). Was that a cost issue for the client, i.e., the original doors were larger than modern pre-fab and the budget didn't accommodate a custom door?
Thanks Aaron; yes, the original doors are unusually large in these old houses, and the budget was quite tight, but it was an aesthetic issue the other way around - a door that matched the original was way out of proportion for this small bathroom, so the client opted for a modern ‘regular sized’ door. 👍
For windowless bathrooms, I like to use glass blocks at ceiling height.
Nice! 👍
Really interesting video Peter
Thanks Chris! 👍
Peter Millard you are welcome Mate
Peter I am looking to buy a sharpening wheel to sharpen my chisels, can I just buy one from amazon and i can go ahead and sharpen straight away or do i need to buy accessories?
Hi Stephen. I've never used one to be honest, so have very limited knowledge and no first-hand experience, but as far as I'm aware, you'll need to have the jigs suitable for whatever you're sharpening ie chisels, plane irons, knives etc... These may come with the wheel, but sometimes they're sold an extra, so check the spec & 'scopr of delivery' for whatever you're considering, carefully. HTH P
@@10MinuteWorkshop yeah that helps mate, I have not used anything like this since college so I can't remember exactly how it's done and what it takes as it's been a long time (17 years or so). I can vaguely remember using some sort of cream and oil, do you know what these could be? Normally when a chisel is blunt I use it as a basher but I have around 20 marbles that I should really be bringing back to life. Thanks for your help
Depends on the kind of wheel you’re using tbh, usually just water for grinding, sometimes an oil or eg glass cleaner spray for sharpening. As I say, I’ve never used one, so don’t take my word for it. I did talk about regular sharpening one the flat’ when I did my ‘razor sharp’ video not so long back - czcams.com/video/hpJXwEJkgpQ/video.html - and the ‘cream’ was a a honing compound, just a regular metal polish in my case. HTH.
@@10MinuteWorkshop brilliant Peter I will give that a watch now, thanks so much
@@10MinuteWorkshop what a legend lol that looked very painful, should have done that to raise money for charity 😉 mabey next time? 😜
Interesting job! Do you need building permits and many visits from county inspectors to do this, or do they trust your professionalism to do it right? The curved corner gives it a very Art Deco feel.
Thanks! Here in the UK at the time this was done, you could make any internal (ie non-structural) alterations without inspection, permits or adult supervision of any kind. The electrical work needs to be done by a qualified sparky who can self test and certify, and work on gas is strictly regulated (just as an FYI - not a consideration in this job) but the plumbing can be done pretty much by anyone, though I preferred to hand all that off to someone I knew and trusted. 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks for the explanation. I’m in Canada and over here you’re supposed have a permit and then several inspections before final drywall goes up, but many people just do it without one. Anything with gas needs a licensed fitter, and you always get one because you’re crazy not to. Although plumbing and electrical are supposed to be done by licensed pros some people do that part themselves. Like there, non structural changes to rooms are pretty much OK for anyone to do. Often when people here renovate older homes (ha, 60 years is old here) they find some crazy things hidden away behind older renovations, so I can only hazard a guess as to what you’ve seen in the very old houses you’ve worked on!
Also peter I hear you talking about people asking you to do videos, would you be able to do a video on how to router out hinges on door and frame? Up until now I have done it with my hammer and chisel but have seen guys on site using a palm router and it looks effortless and they do it alot quicker than I do
It’s not something I’ve really done as most of my work was in occupied homes, and with archiraves already on the door frames it makes routing a hinge pocket much harder. I did plenty routing into the door, though - that was just with a simple little home-made jig clamped to the door. I’ll add it to my list, see what I can come up with, OK? 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop brilliant Peter thank you
Hi Peter, I think it looks really good, love the curved section, stay safe in these trying times from Garry in Barnsley
Thanks Gary! 👍
A nice change to see what you did previously Peter, I’d be interested to learn what village your dad came from, am I right in thinking you hail from Wallasey area, I’m over in N Wales so just curious as I’ve never really come across your surname
Thanks! My Dad’s from Sketty, in South Wales, near Swansea - actually part of Swansea now, I think. 👍👍
Peter Millard, thanks for the reply, take care now and stay safe
Very interesting video Peter. As you said the client required a bathroom, but actually it really 'rationalised' that level of the property. I think the neighbours would have quickly opted for the same conversion. [you probably should have leafleted, lol].
Thanks Keith! Yes, it made a real difference for the client - not sure I wanted to do any more after this one though! 😂👍
No green plasterboard around the shower? Not criticising, just wondering!
It was tanked, though if I was doing this today I’d use cement board. That said I did plenty - including the first one ever, my own - that were just tiled over regular plasterboard without any problems at all. 🤷♂️👍👍
Peter Millard i knew you’d know what you were doing! I was just curious!
Nice job, Peter. Did you have to make a hole in the external wall for the fan extract? Did you use a a diamond boring attachment?
Thanks Mark! Yes, diamond core drill on an SDS - the plumber borrowed mine, lol! 😂👍
No cnc today 😂
🤷♂️ Cliffhanger’s still hanging... 🤔
Ah bathrooms are so much fun ,why not a glass block half wall Peter ,let some of that natural light into the room ,its funny how we do things huh ,i think ,being as she was elderly,i would have went with mosaics on the floor coming out of the shower ,less likely to slip on it ,just be thankful she didn't want 24 by 12 tiles up the walls and over the ceiling in the shower ,in a herring bone pattern of course ,here nowadays they have vinyl flooring ,and find a lot of people go for that as opposed to tile for the speed it goes in ,so instead of two to three days with tiling its done in one ,well if your retired ,lets see how long before your wife releases the Honey do list ,with the renovated bathroom on there ,you know the one with the 700 dollar plus shower head/steam heads in the shower /sauna with heated floors and mirrors ,twin sinks toilet and bidet in it ,and lets not forget this all has to be done on the weekend she goes with her bridge group for a oceanfront tournament ...lol Be safe Peter and wash your hands ,retired ...lol
Thanks Syd! Glass blocks would only really have helped on the wall opposite the window- which is where she wanted the bookcase. 🤷♂️ Client’s always right, right? Unless they want 24x12 tikes in a herringbone pattern... 😂 And yes, *that* list is getting longer by the day! Stay well Syd! 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop so true Peter ,put still wash your hands ,stay safe
Ok so I've often doubted the amount of people that say videos haven't showed up in there subscription feed and it's just happened to me with this video. I double checked and it's Def not there on mobile or PS4 and I'm still showing as subscribed. Looks like the issue is definitely real then.
I was a home builder for about 15 years and did a few similar bathroom conversions. Never liked going into occupied houses to work, so this brings back some memories. I was concerned about the drywall in the shower until you mentioned it was "tanked", can you describe the process for me? Another question, the gray plastic supply pipe, is it Polybutylene or what was called PB? If so, that type was a disaster here. Just curious what it was and how it worked for you? Nice Job, really like the bendy board corner, learned something new there.
Hi Barry. Back then tanking comprised of a thick rubbery paint that was either brushed on or applied with a roller; these days you typically have a membrane that’s also applied over the thick ‘paint’ and / corner profiles as well. Re the grey pipework, that was the plumbers domain, almost certainly a brand called Hep20 and yes, it seems to be PB. Can I ask what the disaster was in your neck of the woods? It’s been used here for many, many years, without incident as far as I know. Thanks! 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop PB pipe was going to be the next great thing. I would have to look up the dates, but it virtually supplanted copper pipe. It was so successful we lost an entire generation of plumbers who knew how to solder pipe. The first problem with PB came from the fittings. They were made of Acetal or Delrin plastic and inserted into the pipe and were sealed in place with clinch rings that look like clunky wedding bands. They use a tool that looked like bolt cutters with a circular hole in them to clinch the fittings. The plastic fittings were degraded by the chlorine in the water and they would burst. So they switched to copper fittings, but to save a few pennies they switched from copper to aluminum clinch rings. The difference in thermal expansion properties of the copper fittings and the aluminum meant the copper would expand on the hot side and stretch the aluminum and they would blow off. Eventually, the pipe itself failed under the attack of the chlorine. Giant class action suit and the manufacturers spent hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars repiping houses. Since no one knew how to solder anymore they switched to PEX. Some of that has failed because of "dezincification" of the brass fittings. I was a Home Inspector for buyers for over thirty years and this was a big deal for us. (I can describe how to make a watch if you would like to know the time. First, you mine some gold....)
The Tank process sounds like Schlutter (sp?) which came alone later for us.
Thanks for the detailed reply Barry. Wow, that sounds like a nightmare. As far as I’m aware there have been no such failures here - perhaps the spec is different, though what you describe sounds very similar. As I say in the video I was in the property last year and everything is holding up fine, but I’ll definitely do some more digging on the subject and check back with the plumber. Thanks!
The Polypipe are a plastic unit with an O ring, plastic former ring and a stainless steel clamp ring. Similar, in some ways, to how a brass compression fitting works. There's no detrimental galvanic action. Water pressure is typically quite low in the UK. The connectors are quite large and sturdy. They typically have a 25 year guarantee here.
As a Millard myself I was dismayed to hear of your Welsh connection, then again it is not far from our origins, the West Midlands...
I’m sorry Peter; I have sent this to all the woodwork channels,
I appreciate it’s not anything you could solve:
But,
PLEASE JUST GIVE THIS A LOOK it’s not trolling I promise.
I’m from a small county in the uk called West Sussex. Your New York is going through such a bad time.
I just wanted to suggest some how... could we get an anthem going that could show the world does give a shit and is with them... you have so many people following you, if you like the thought you could make it reality, 🤞🏽 Beasty boys an open letter to NYC
Great job. Love the curved wall. 👍
Thanks! Worked out nicely! 👍👍
1) That's the difference,,, you NEVER find a soils stack outdoors in my neck of the woods,,, even the trolls can unclog frozen turds.
2) I have done more or less the same in my 1901 wooden house, except the "signature" feature was 45 degree corners (miter style).
3) However, I suspect the bathroom build in this video took place around 1950, not 2014,,, where on earth is the waterproof seals in shower and sink area? Shock was even bigger when I saw no drain in floor (ofc I dont mean in shower). And solid oak floors? In a bathroom? You are more concerned about wallpaper cracks on the exterior than waterproofing a wet room. Are there no code standards in the UK?
I'd never buy that house.
The whole room was tanked - raised ground floor bathroom without it would be asking for trouble. Floor drain? Unheard of here; where would it drain to? And absolutely no problem with oak in a small shower room like this. Building codes, no, building regulations yes. All adhered to. Stay well 👍👍
Then you'd never buy a home in the UK. The number one difference here is the low water pressure.
Easily impressed I guess. Looked pretty mundane average work with a hint of DIY to me. Let's play builder.