Business Dinner Etiquette: Proper Manners for Dining with Clients

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    Dining out can be so revealing of one's character that many companies make it part of their onboarding process before or when they hire you. It shows how well you can maintain a conversation, how will you fit in socially with your boss, your team, and how you can navigate basic etiquette.
    No matter where you are, a business lunch or dinner always has a host. If you go out with your superior, your boss chooses the restaurant, as well as the time. If you're just going out with colleagues because you're hungry, there may not be a host necessarily unless, of course, you want to pick their brain then you become the host and you invite them. The same is true vice versa. If someone wants to network with you or understand how you can help them and they approach you, then they become the host. In that case, just go along or answer the questions. If you are the host, on the other hand, do your homework and know who your guest is.
    When you pick a restaurant, don't choose anything that's overly loud or crowded because after all, the main goal is to have a conversation. In the same vein, don't choose a restaurant that focuses on sloppy or difficult to eat foods. It is essential to make a reservation because nothing makes you look as unprofessional as having to wait for a table because you didn't take any precautions.
    Where exactly should you sit? Obviously, there's a table but especially with bigger parties, there can be large tables and specific hierarchies. It's easiest when you're the guests. Just wait until the host tells you where to sit. In case you're not offered a seat, wait until your host sits and put yourself in a position that allows for easy conversation. In general, the person highest up on the food chain gets the best seat and so forth. So sometimes, just the place where you sit at the table can indicate if you're a big shot or not.
    A good host will always introduce new parties to each other. In a business setting, that means you mention their name, as well as their position and what they do. If on top of that, you happen to know more information about those two people, you can share that as well which gives them a common conversation starting point.
    Dress appropriately. As a basic rule to a business dinner or lunch, you should wear the same things you wear to the office. Of course, if it's a more formal business dinner in a nice restaurant, you can dress up more but in some cases, it's not advisable to dress better than your boss because he might get offended. On the other hand, if it's an important client meeting, you want to dress up through the usual standard. O
    Don't show up ravenous and don't try to eat as much food as you can if someone else pays for you. Of course, hunger can get the best of anyone so if you know you're hungry and you have to talk a lot, maybe eat something in advance.
    Greet everyone involved with a handshake and smile. Yes, everyone, not just the boss or higher-ups but everyone from the top all the way down. It's very important that you stand up when you're doing it, otherwise, it just feels and looks sloppy.
    Mind your table manners. You don't want to look like a pig and you also don't want other people to end up with your soup on their face.
    It's time to order, do so carefully. That means, don't order the most expensive dish on the menu and if you are the guest, you can always follow the lead of your host. Never order more courses than your host because that may look like you're abusing their generosity.
    If you go out with colleagues for lunch,
    Now, what about the tipping in servers? Tipping can hugely depend on the culture you're in and so it pays to know in advance what to do, when, and where, and what the usual amount of tip is.
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Komentáře • 166

  • @janehall2720
    @janehall2720 Před 4 lety +126

    I went to the Culinary Institute of America and was trained in formal dining room service. We learned all of this and more! I now live in Idaho and formal dining is nearly unheard of. Only one up scale restaurant and dressing up means polishing your cowboy boots! I really like it but would like a bit more formal dining. Thanks for the video.

  • @TinaLeder
    @TinaLeder Před 4 lety +70

    Pulling the server aside to tell them you'll pay ahead of time is BRILLIANT. In Japan, dining out etiquette is very strict and rigid.
    For example, where each person sits (by ranking order), serving etiquette (as a guest), e.t.c

  • @waryful3
    @waryful3 Před 4 lety +88

    *_this man's accent is in a league of it's own, sublime._*

    • @jacobsinger97
      @jacobsinger97 Před 4 lety +4

      Thats unique gentleman accebt

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 Před 4 lety +3

      @@jacobsinger97
      So anyone getting undergraduate degrees in Germany has a "business accent" (mixing RP (school English) with the pronunciations word's had where they were learned)

    • @waryful3
      @waryful3 Před 4 lety

      @@jacobsinger97 fr

    • @jenniferschmitzer299
      @jenniferschmitzer299 Před 4 lety

      fiona fiona ha ha lol. So laughing heartily. I hope you are too dear lady.
      It depends I spose. Those that like a RP background accent cos they like their SG host over in north sydney .. opposed to another who doesn’t have the physical thingies ...
      Yes. Udo. I AM looking at you mr Phillip st

    • @jacobsinger97
      @jacobsinger97 Před 4 lety +1

      @@waryful3 fr

  • @TheTOBroShow
    @TheTOBroShow Před 4 lety +52

    How to eat food that are meant for your hands like a gentleman would be an interesting video to see. Especially when it comes to burgers and fries

  • @DutchPlanDerLinde
    @DutchPlanDerLinde Před 4 lety +28

    2:43 All of you look great, that's a very nice shot your cameraman did!

  • @GallantKnight98
    @GallantKnight98 Před 4 lety +30

    Great video! Lot of this information has been lost to time. Also, I love the acting. 😅

    • @cplrobben4456
      @cplrobben4456 Před 4 lety +1

      I think you’ll find my channel interesting, check it out Zion !

  • @IpswichRobert
    @IpswichRobert Před 4 lety +4

    I could watch this chap speak all day long

  • @jaredmcintosh4178
    @jaredmcintosh4178 Před 2 lety +2

    The acting in this video is prime! The phone scene, chugging the Buffalo Trace, love it!

  • @krishnaveti
    @krishnaveti Před 4 lety +2

    That tie knot and collar spread is so immaculate.

  • @Overlycomplicatedswede
    @Overlycomplicatedswede Před 6 měsíci +5

    I’m a native Swede and it’s frustrating to me when people come here or anywhere in Europe and expect everyone to know English
    Yes most of us do know English But even learning how to say “please and thank you” in the language of that country. Can go a long way.
    Greetings from Sweden

  • @jacobalaichi123
    @jacobalaichi123 Před 4 lety +4

    Dear G.G., I watch your videos for pure comedy, but I learn a lot.

  • @Michaeladechatillon
    @Michaeladechatillon Před 4 lety +7

    Thank you so much Raphael, this is a subject most modern men should make a study of! Also, I adore your outfit today!

  • @Nigellagirl99
    @Nigellagirl99 Před 4 lety +8

    You all look so classy!

  • @TheTOBroShow
    @TheTOBroShow Před 4 lety +21

    5:00 (guy staring at GG) when you see class for the first time.

    • @jenniferschmitzer299
      @jenniferschmitzer299 Před 4 lety +3

      Ladies go first ALWAYS. I am glad you noticed this interaction. It is refreshing to be in the same place as those who follow the rules of graciousness.

  • @syguzman5739
    @syguzman5739 Před 4 lety +4

    ❤ Thank you for this video! I usually eat at home but it's still good to know etiquette.

  • @jacobsinger97
    @jacobsinger97 Před 4 lety +5

    HahHa!! 😃🤣 you drinking through bottle part was hilarious!!

  • @sweetandsimple2007
    @sweetandsimple2007 Před 2 lety +2

    I was invited to my first business dinner and this video is so helpful for me! Thank you.

  • @mattslivestream
    @mattslivestream Před 4 lety +5

    I really love your high quality video series

  • @AndreA-qp6in
    @AndreA-qp6in Před rokem

    Great video, thank you! Exactly what I was looking for

  • @dr.omar.insights2000
    @dr.omar.insights2000 Před 4 lety +2

    Great content as usual

  • @slaroshshahkarova9101
    @slaroshshahkarova9101 Před 4 lety

    Thank you 🙏 for speeding up the video.

  • @peaceonearth8693
    @peaceonearth8693 Před 4 lety +4

    Great video! More like this please. All things about business etiquette would be good topics.
    (I suppose that I miss the Mad Men tv series.)

  • @ffaubert1
    @ffaubert1 Před 4 lety

    Great video. I learned a lot. Thank you.

  • @mazzarouni5608
    @mazzarouni5608 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. I have learnt a few things and have saved it.

  • @spectre5x5
    @spectre5x5 Před 4 lety +3

    Very professional!

  • @hypercombo7202
    @hypercombo7202 Před 4 lety +1

    Valuable advice here.

  • @TheCensere
    @TheCensere Před 4 lety +4

    Very informative.

  • @firearmsstudent
    @firearmsstudent Před 3 lety +1

    Totally guilty of many of these, good to learn now

  • @baateinaurcharcha
    @baateinaurcharcha Před 3 lety +6

    Sir, I love your videos they help me to understand the western culture perfectly.
    Just one request, the map that was shown here depicted the part of northern India to be absent. That sometimes hurt people's feelings. So please take care of it in your upcoming videos.
    -> the part that was absent was Kashmir (POK) so please see to it.
    But you are doing wonderful.

  • @MTobin1000
    @MTobin1000 Před 4 lety +5

    very interesting video...thanks for doing this....(one unrelated question...do you have a video in your archives on what to look for when selecting a premium quality dress shoe?

  • @Danielxulu
    @Danielxulu Před 4 lety +1

    Great video!

  • @RizwanKler
    @RizwanKler Před 4 lety +3

    Cheers Raphael & GG 👍

  • @PaulCabin
    @PaulCabin Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! I hope you also get the chance to do a very formal dining video (Downton Abbey type) if for no more than the fun!

  • @kirk326
    @kirk326 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you.

  • @juanarocha8629
    @juanarocha8629 Před 4 lety +9

    Next video: dinner date etiquette, and tips

  • @archeraikin1172
    @archeraikin1172 Před 4 lety

    This is fun how I read all of this information from Emily Post book on etiquette

  • @samsnell9241
    @samsnell9241 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome thank you !!

    • @cplrobben4456
      @cplrobben4456 Před 4 lety

      sam snell I think you’ll find my channel helpful, check it out Sam!

  • @jesustostado7175
    @jesustostado7175 Před 4 lety +1

    You blowing the soup killed me lol

  • @biancavelasco3664
    @biancavelasco3664 Před 3 lety

    Great Video! Any chance you could do a work Holiday Party etiquete video.

  • @stevencrane2004
    @stevencrane2004 Před 4 lety +11

    12:59 I thought this suit was dark brown.

  • @swellawsum
    @swellawsum Před 4 lety

    Could you please do a video on "Prince Suit"?

  • @abdifitah
    @abdifitah Před rokem

    3:00 Our dutch Prime-minister, Mark Rutte 😂

  • @alexansari2138
    @alexansari2138 Před 9 měsíci

    Good tips.
    Cocktail parties are fun and great time to flirt.
    I always like to attend and also give cocktail parties.
    Finger foods is good and cocktail drinks are best.
    I like to dress up for cocktail parties either by wearing a suite or a trouser, shirt and jacket combo. I have even worn a tuxedo to a few cocktail parties.
    I think that the host must set the stage for the right standard of the cocktail party, right from the invitation, the invitees, the venue, the food and drink to the introductions and the message (if any).
    I have taken a few dates to company cocktail parties, but I have come to realize that a classy woman is much better to invite than a down to earth no ambitions woman.
    I like to listen to good background music like smooth jazz.

  • @TimothyRCrowe
    @TimothyRCrowe Před 4 lety +10

    I have an dining etiquette question: Is it OK to actually tuck your napkin in your shirt when eating a potentially messy meal or is it seen now as improper? I've done it a few times in Italian restaurants when I'm wearing an expensive shirt.

  • @abraham8252
    @abraham8252 Před rokem

    Let's be better gentlemen, thank you sir.

  • @trackpackgt877
    @trackpackgt877 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm not a suit and tie business man I work construction but I still love these videos because I make pretty good money and I like to go to nice restaurants

  • @henrylemelay5436
    @henrylemelay5436 Před 4 lety +2

    Klinken met glazen is not done !

  • @gilbertorangel4127
    @gilbertorangel4127 Před 4 lety +19

    Preston you look real cute. I love you with a fiery passion

    • @cplrobben4456
      @cplrobben4456 Před 4 lety +1

      I think you’ll find my channel helpful brother. Check it out

    • @zBMatt
      @zBMatt Před 4 lety +5

      ChangingPeoplesLife didn’t watch any of your videos but I’ll tell you one thing, you won’t be growing having parts of other people’s thumbnails in your thumbnails, you’ll be at 3 copyright strikes before you know it.

    • @cplrobben4456
      @cplrobben4456 Před 4 lety +1

      zB Matt thanks for the info brother, I’ll look into it

    • @purplefabian
      @purplefabian Před 4 lety +2

      Keep your pants on mr pervert

  • @gdretired4385
    @gdretired4385 Před 4 lety +2

    Whenever I have a dinner date with family or friends ( I’m retired so a business dinner no longer applies) I brush up on my manners with your articles and videos.

  • @maxvandermeer995
    @maxvandermeer995 Před 3 lety +1

    At 3:00 the man standing is the Dutch prime minister!

  • @VinceGoodrum
    @VinceGoodrum Před 4 lety +3

    I dont wear a tie to business dinners usually because I want to have a slightly casual look and I hate getting it dipped in the soup by accident. Everything in this video is spot on

    • @raulgonzalezasfura922
      @raulgonzalezasfura922 Před 2 lety +1

      Why not trying bowties?
      Formal yet practical, since there is not left fabric for you to sip into soups or any kind of liquid whatsoever.

    • @aurin_komak
      @aurin_komak Před rokem

      Use a tie bar

  • @jacobsinger97
    @jacobsinger97 Před 4 lety

    Thats almost like a restaurant ettiquets!!

  • @JeMappelleFrikandel
    @JeMappelleFrikandel Před 4 lety +4

    What is the proper gentlemans etiquette when dealing with the Coronavirus?

  • @carmelpereira6003
    @carmelpereira6003 Před 2 lety

    Hi Raphael good day to you. I don’t drink alcohol but if I’m at an event where there would be a toast, is it appropriate to accept a glass just for the toast and then not drink it?

    • @MartinZanichelli
      @MartinZanichelli Před 2 lety

      No, you have to at least drink a little, as a courtesy.

  • @carbonado2432
    @carbonado2432 Před 4 lety +1

    11:46 PPOWER MOVE!!

  • @pixadragon46
    @pixadragon46 Před 2 lety +1

    Japanese yakuza be like let's go to the ramen shop down the street !!!

  • @DinnerForkTongue
    @DinnerForkTongue Před 4 lety +4

    Not mistreating your servers is also basic human decency, people. Remember, the hand holding that tray or pushing that cart is a human being that struggles to make a living in this world off the sweat of his/her brow, just like you.
    This is not directed at you, Sven. This is for morons that think it's fine to not respect those that happen to not earn as much as them when no one is looking.

  • @zBMatt
    @zBMatt Před 4 lety +6

    I feel like if Sven put some glasses on, the outfits would pop so much more than they already do.

    • @peaceonearth8693
      @peaceonearth8693 Před 4 lety

      Are outfits supposed to pop in a business setting? Answer is usually no.

    • @zBMatt
      @zBMatt Před 4 lety +3

      C. C. By pop I mean look better. Glasses also give an elegance and smarter look to any outfit. So the answer is usually yes.

  • @Crow_Guy
    @Crow_Guy Před 3 lety +1

    8:30 "So, as you can see this right here is a very nice .png graphic i found. Best of all, it even has sample text!"

  • @shakezmaybe3192
    @shakezmaybe3192 Před 4 lety +6

    Raphael, I'm in love with your ties.
    However, my religion forbids me from wearing silk ties.
    Do you have any other good brands or material which can be as great as silk?

    • @jenniferschmitzer299
      @jenniferschmitzer299 Před 4 lety +4

      my first guess would be a fine woollen or nice cotton or linen in a tight weave. Natural fibres are exemplary.

    • @shakezmaybe3192
      @shakezmaybe3192 Před 4 lety +2

      @@jenniferschmitzer299Wow thanks.
      Hope I will find that kind of a tie.

    • @chilldoc9638
      @chilldoc9638 Před 2 lety

      What religion makes silk ties a sin?

    • @shakezmaybe3192
      @shakezmaybe3192 Před 2 lety

      @@chilldoc9638 Islam

    • @chilldoc9638
      @chilldoc9638 Před 2 lety

      @@shakezmaybe3192 why is there no silk allowed

  • @JoJo-xp6wr
    @JoJo-xp6wr Před 4 lety +2

    Excuse me, Mr. Schneider, there is a possibility that I would be invited to a party with the ambassador of India and his wife present, it would be in night time, so what do you suggest for me to wear, I am thinking of a tuxedo, but any other requirements?

    • @gentlemansgazette
      @gentlemansgazette  Před 4 lety +2

      The host will indicate the dress code on the invitation.

    • @JoJo-xp6wr
      @JoJo-xp6wr Před 4 lety +1

      @@gentlemansgazette but it's not like that, it's an award giving ceremony, for best pieces of art, no specified dresses, I just want to stand out from my peers!

  • @lirenrealm9691
    @lirenrealm9691 Před 2 lety +2

    How about Dorsia

  • @williamthebutcherssonprodu227

    great video, can you do a video on smoking etiquette?

  • @Golf315
    @Golf315 Před rokem

    How much food should you leave on a plate? I always thought cleaning the plate makes you look desperate and weird

  • @richiegrey5377
    @richiegrey5377 Před 4 lety

    Creed men Cologne been sold

  • @laurensvandenberg5036
    @laurensvandenberg5036 Před 3 lety

    3:02 You accidentally have chosen a picture of the Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte :) Greetings from Holland

  • @1234Elston
    @1234Elston Před 4 lety +1

    MINNEAPOLIS

  • @user-kj8jd3dn3w
    @user-kj8jd3dn3w Před 2 měsíci

    ❤🎉

  • @merrill5780
    @merrill5780 Před 4 lety +1

    I am a fan of this site. Please don't alienate potentially half your fans with derogatory President Trump references or "jokes" (past videos).

  • @waffle168
    @waffle168 Před 4 lety +2

    Handshakes? 😱 how about elbow bumps? 😁

  • @butterpecanrican_
    @butterpecanrican_ Před 2 lety

    You're from Germany? I could've sworn your accent sounds hispanic lol. I was guessing Spain. Especially because you have that swag. Man was I off!

  • @syou8290
    @syou8290 Před 4 lety

    1:54 can you explain that ??
    i don't understand the point

  • @ajithsidhu7183
    @ajithsidhu7183 Před 4 lety +1

    Pls do one on how to be liked by your bosses ,lecturers and superiors

  • @stormrider01
    @stormrider01 Před 3 lety

    Just go to Jim Block and have some fun dude

  • @keanu489
    @keanu489 Před 4 lety +1

    Raphael, in welchem Land wohnst du eigentlich? Vielleicht antwortest du ja🙋🏻‍♂️

    • @DEDEBC4L
      @DEDEBC4L Před 4 lety

      Egal di ja hornt du helgichten!!!

  • @Hellcat2064
    @Hellcat2064 Před 4 lety +8

    For Chinese culture, the most important person sits facing the entrance.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 Před 4 lety +1

      Japanese at least avoid seating with the back to the door /make the lowest ranked person sit in such a place

  • @divyachadha3392
    @divyachadha3392 Před rokem

    can someone pls summarize this for me

  • @BojanSthlm
    @BojanSthlm Před 4 lety

    How tall are you two?

  • @PiranhaJaw22
    @PiranhaJaw22 Před 4 lety +1

    massage parlor etiquette

  • @andreapatane4204
    @andreapatane4204 Před 3 lety +1

    It isn't easy to obey business dinner etiquette these days. I'm usually a well-behaved person even though I had bad behavior since early childhood. When it comes to being invited to a business dinner, I feel shy about dining out with a bunch of other employees in regards to obeying the boss' choice of restaurant ⛓. 👍🏻 if you highly agree.

  • @durgashaw3892
    @durgashaw3892 Před 3 lety +1

    You are making a great video it helped me a lot but i saw you show the wrong Indian map please correct Jammu and Kashmir is an unforgettable part of India

  • @user-vc2lu1qj7b
    @user-vc2lu1qj7b Před 2 lety

    Hello, I'm Shahat

  • @DreamyBongos
    @DreamyBongos Před 4 lety

    Sven, don't dis Black Forrest Inn like that.

  • @TheCoster11
    @TheCoster11 Před rokem

    Bro got drip for sale

  • @rovercoupe7104
    @rovercoupe7104 Před 4 lety

    If I owned a firm and had employees I wouldn’t have business lunches. I would arrange meetings before or after lunch. It’s difficult, I think, to eat and talk at the same time. M.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 Před 4 lety +2

      And awkward, it's an American tradition tho

    • @ffaubert1
      @ffaubert1 Před 4 lety

      I think that's why he recommended saving business talk for the dessert course. Talking hobbies while eating a steak is relatively easy and it's quite possible you won't even be in that conversation. Business requires everyone to be focused which is much easier over a piece of pie.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 Před 4 lety

      @@ffaubert1
      So why waste a perfectly nice meal on people you could be done with in a elevator (self driving conference rooms would be interesting).

    • @ffaubert1
      @ffaubert1 Před 4 lety

      @@fionafiona1146 Lol. I need to see that self driving conference room, but point taken.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 Před 4 lety

      @@ffaubert1 Reno brings them to car shows for years (conference room needs over technical improvements)

  • @simonbelka5828
    @simonbelka5828 Před 4 lety +2

    Für einen gebürtigen Deutschen ist deine englische Aussprache echt bemerkenswert! Ich würde gerne mal wissen, wie sich deine Stimme anhört, wenn du Deutsch sprichst. :D

  • @Crawdadjoe231
    @Crawdadjoe231 Před 4 lety +3

    If this has to be taught to you, you just don’t have the sauce

  • @user-js6ch1mf8g
    @user-js6ch1mf8g Před rokem

    You don't have to mention what college he goes too. I know buisness men who are 6 7 figures woth a GED due to setbacks. It's not nessasary.

  • @TheRatounet
    @TheRatounet Před 2 lety

    This remind me my most embarrassing moment when i was dining 1 to 1 with woman client and who invite me and i hit her glass of red wine and poor it on her white dress....

  • @ajconstantine3593
    @ajconstantine3593 Před 4 lety +1

    Handshake at 6:23 = 😖😖😖
    That’s a really limp and fruity handshake there; I feel really awkward when I get a flaccid ‘finger shake,’ especially in a business setting.
    * Don’t get me wrong-I love yer channel. It’s likely you have an explanation. ✌️

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Před 4 lety

      Aye, the dreaded dead fish handshake. Don't be the one that initiates that, under *any* situation. It makes awkwardness skyrocket like little else.

  • @kingsoncrimson3611
    @kingsoncrimson3611 Před 4 lety

    No braun Shows after 20.00 hour.

  • @dmvnation595
    @dmvnation595 Před 4 lety

    You know when a couple has been together for a long time when they look alike

    • @owl2944
      @owl2944 Před 4 lety

      me and my girlfriend are tired of our mum saying that

    • @dmvnation595
      @dmvnation595 Před 4 lety

      RavenclawBoi my wife and I hear it all the time... it can get embarrassing at times.

  • @bitchpuddin
    @bitchpuddin Před 4 lety

    Swoon

  • @peter455sd
    @peter455sd Před 4 lety +1

    This Preston guy looks like he escaped from the Weimar republic

  • @crisyorke1328
    @crisyorke1328 Před 4 lety +1

    I talk about politics all the time.

  • @jacobsinger97
    @jacobsinger97 Před 4 lety +1

    So many things to remember!! 😫🤯🤯😵😵 im dead! I would rather be a trucker than this..cuz im a dude not a bot

  • @brandon___styles
    @brandon___styles Před 4 lety +5

    Haha! "His neighborhood was infested with Democrats."

  • @jacobsinger97
    @jacobsinger97 Před 4 lety +3

    Presidents of countries dont even dress as good as you do sir

  • @jorgeraimondososa2438

    I hace to say that the trousers you always wear are so big, that they make me unconfortabe.

  • @dons123111
    @dons123111 Před 4 lety

    I agree with most of what you said., having been in business over 40 years and having these meetings. With one exception. The person who brought up democrats did a calculated risk, that is to say most democrats don't own business and are not in high managerial positions but instead are fire fighters, teachers in govt jobs. Now had the person you are entertaining to try and secure the contract, if he or she brings up politics it's good to side with them in some way like even a silver lining at least. Often times praising the same politics makes the buyer comfortable with you. If you know for certain that you share the same politics as your buyer, then you should bring it up in conversation. Agreeing on shared ethos is a great way to build trust that goes with religion as well. I would guess ya'll are democrats for saying to be quiet on politics and religion, which in business is not a wise Sun Tzu tactic that we in the market practice. Just by saying to be quiet may have lost ya'll all hundreds of followers on CZcams. "Sanity is a narrow as a razors edge." But I think you are still young and are learning the ways of the world so I don't take umbrage. Be careful with your words.