The Real Reason This Big Budget Disney Movie Failed So Spectacularly
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2022
- On paper, Disney's Tomorrowland should have been a home run. Coming off the success of Pirates of the Caribbean, Tomorrowland was Disney's next venture in creating a movie franchise based on a theme park attraction. But as Tomorrowlands clunky marketing took off, and audiences didn't flock to theaters. It was obvious this was a major mistep for Disney, but how did this happen?
#Tomorrowland #Disney #Nerdstalgic
Written by Chris Teregis
Edited by Brian Nappi - Zábava
What's the biggest movie failure in your opinion?
The Island. Could have been an intelligent, provocative sci fi drama but ended up being Bay-isms everywhere.
The Good Dinosaur
An interesting scenario about the dinosaurs never going extinct, but it's put to the sidelines for a cliched "boy-and-his-dog" type story.
Harry Potter Movie 3 ruined the entire vision of the Harry Potter and the rest of the film Franchise. Very bad directing. We don’t need five shots of the tree!! The whole point was Subtlety. That’s why it was such a shock in the book.
I have a top ten fail list, that’s the one that irks me most cause if they just stuck with the vision of the book like LOTRs it could’ve been better. Lol, just my opinion
Every star wars film since the original trio
I thought you were going to talk about the festival
The overall concept of Tomorrowland was amazing imo
Just wasn't well executed.
This movie could've been a trilogy with so many stories in it. But they decided to cramp everything in one.
Yeah, that’s why the ending was so confusing too.
Yes
Yeah it was cool but tf happened
Tomorrowland totally had potential. The points on here were spot on. Still enjoy the film, but I agree it could’ve been iconic if they just had better character development and direction
I loved the concept of Hugh Laurie's character warning everyone about the apocalypse through various media.
@@michaelstrong5383 I agree. But even that point is criminally underdeveloped in the movie. The villian just _tells_ us about it, we never get to _see_ anything of it.
@@lonestarr1490 True. That should have been a movie on its own.
'Could've been iconic'??.. You mean if it had been a TOTALLY DIFFERENT movie??? Purile and pointless at best.
I think they failed in the marketing department
I really enjoyed Tomorrowland. Brilliant concept, not perfect execution. Shame it didn’t do better financially.
I think the message of the movie was very important too, and only has become more so since then.
@@RDeathmark really good point!
I remember I watched the movie when it first came out with my dad and brother. The three of us all really enjoyed the movie and agreed it was a good. We were shocked to hear when one of my dad’s coworkers went to watch it with his family and they all fell asleep in the theaters cuz it was boring.
I agree, I feel like the small minority that had a good time watching Tomorrowland
So that's why they have to make you rent or buy to watch it, to make up for their lost....smdh
As messy as this film was, I still really enjoyed it. I'd easily take Tomorrowland over any of the Disney live-action remakes that have come out in the last decade.
I dunno, Clooney's clunky narration and the film's lack of momentum or action was really, really bad.
I agree. I really enjoyed it. it was a very unconventional movie, granted. But it could have done MUCH better with better marketing.
@@TheArtkaw Disney garbage ass live action movies are even badder than that.
It’s actually better than that diarrhea Jungle Cruise film
What I hated most about this movie was that they spent too much time away from the futuristic city. We like to see the cool stuff. We like to see people explore. We like to see futuristic stuff doing futuristic things. Making a boring movie in an underutilised world ruined this for me.
Ironically, as someone who really likes the movie I have the same opinion about the picture itself. They spend so little time showing the actual city that you feel like you missed out on so much. You only see the city, when it’s not run down, for only a few minutes. A movie called Tomorrowland needed to actually show us Tomorrowland.
I think it's likely that it was meant that way as they expected it to spawn a franchise, and were going to explore Tomorrowland itself more in subsequent films, but since the film failed financially, they didn't make anymore.
@@Pte.FletcherIronically them expecting sequels is why the first movie failed.
Could have been like Chronicles of Narnia or Alice in Wonderland.
I think the reshoots killed this movie, why did they have to add Clooney retelling the story? So weird. I loved the look of this film, kinda like a live action Jetsons, and it’s a shame Disney buried it. I loved the 60’s story and wanted more of it, but wonder if it was too similar to Meet The Robinsons had more of it taken place in that era so they added more of the modern story. Sucks when a film has all this talent, money and potential and then is squandered.
If this place was real I wonder how people would feel about it? Like seriously an advanced civilization with such high technology how would people react? Government react? Would they be met with praise or hostility? Would we congratulate them for isolating themselves and advancing their technology? Or would the be met with ridicul for not helping civilization? In my opinion this should be a series
Every time a movie has a concept that deals with a sensitive or complex issue, they deliberately water it down with exposition and other nonsense to reduce its impact, and because they figure people are too stupid to get it otherwise. Also, they don't actually want anyone radicalizing over it, and potentially threatening the billionaire ruling class, so they want to make sure it's less provocative.
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You can see it happen when Hugh Laurie gives his monologue near the end...and it's pure, horrific truth. But nobody pays attention by that point because of how limp and boring so much of the rest of the movie was.
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Seriously, go watch his monologue by itself...with no context. It's chilling.
I actually think this movie could have been saved in the edit if they had leaned into the "George retelling the story" mechanic. Use that to tell the story non-sequentially and control when key information gets revealed.
@@tobiaslawrence8928 It wouldn't really matter. We'd be irrelevant to them. Their capabilities would be so utterly beyond us that it would be like a baby human against a Gundam.
Yeah, I would've preferred if we had the 60s story, if they wanted this story tbsy should've seen if that did well and tried a sequel, felt squashed into 1 movie
I love how studios continue to see problems in "new ideas" rather than "bad scripts" and then proceed to keep remaking old ideas with bad scripts.
The only thing that keep these things afloat is the fact that the old versions are already known to the public. You know, the ones that where "new ideas" but with actually "good scripts"
The only thing I remember getting hyped about for this movie was the pin idea. It could have been fantastic- I was very intrigued by the whole touch-this-and-it-lets-you-glimpse-somewhere-else idea and the pins could have been a really cool merch or ad campaign. I thought the idea was unique and interesting and definitely could have led to a whole original franchise if executed correctly but unfortunately that didn’t pan out. I really want to see them do this better someday…
I disagree it’s a terrible idea for a franchise. You know what idea helped make Star Wars such a successful franchise? The lightsaber, it looks cool but at the end of the day it’s just a sword and that’s ok because it’s simple and it serves as an instrumental tool to the characters. U can cut through doors with it, cut people with it, throw it, deflect bullets with it! Cuts through almost anything? U can turn it on and off for cool effect. You can have a double one, two single blades, carry 4 at once! It never ends!
The ability to teleport when touching something may be cool but to give 170 million $ to it was absolute insanity. What r u gonna do? Someone touches it it transports them. Ok great… 5 mins later I’m bored… ok someone is after them and when they touch it maybe they escape then when they let go they are in danger again…. Ok 10 mins of that I’m bored… maybe someone in the future world comes after her to take the pen which would trap her in the world where she is in trouble? Ok now I’ve gone way outta my way here to come up with a way better use of this idea but at the end of the day it works as a 30 min short film absolute max not a franchise.
Oh fr the pins were such a great idea kinda like a One Ring meets the Mockingjay Pin type situation it wouldve been so cool, esp. like as a trend for kids to get and put on their jackets or backpacks but as a symbol for being pioneers of science and design or something. Man i wanted one of those pins when i first watched this
@@thekaryodysseys6360Um, but Disney does have the Tomorrowland pins as merchandise
The teaser trailer of this movie is probably one of the best trailers I've ever seen in my whole life. Was expecting the movie to be better but still liked it.
i loved the trailer and was disappointed by the movie
@@ChowdhuryRayan same
That's what I was just thinking. The teaser for this movie had me so pumped and that's all I watched before seeing it in theaters. While I enjoyed the movie, I was still very letdown. It was nothing that I thought it'd be.
Bingo! It was brilliant.
I vividly remember being like 12 and being absolutely entranced by the trailer. I think the problem here was that I, and presumably many other people, imagined so wildly and hopefully what the movie would actually be about, that when the mystery was actually answered in the film it couldn't live up to our infinitely high hopes. Which is probably why this type of marketing generally doesn't work.
Yeah, completely agree. It spends WAY too much time running around on Earth while Stuff Happens that just doesn't feel important. And then the ending is so didactic that even as someone who totally vibed with the message and themes, I was rolling my eyes at how heavyhanded it got. The whole project feels like it just got out from under the creators, or they never had a clear vision of what the movie should be.
And seriously, why release it the same year as Force Awakens? If anything, that would have been the perfect excuse to push Tormorrowland back a bit, let them work on the script some more before committing, and then release it in the off year between 7 and 8.
I remember hearing that Tomorrowland was supposed to be a story about George Clooney being Walt Disney himself and he was attempting to save Tomorrowland before it took over the world because of an evil robot inside the "theme park" per say.
That story would have been awesome to see, but Disney lacks courage to write things like that.
They literally gave Bird and Lindelof a $170 million budget for this stinker. If you wanna blame the suits, fine, but the two still wrote this travesty.
Brad Bird made this? How do you go from The Incredibles to this?
Really?! Now THAT sounds like damn cool plot! Because this storyline felt really pointless and weird in my opinion.
Imagine batman fithing againts dr house
Disney is terrified of making any movies related to Disneyland. Even when they make them, they keep it vastly different
This movie had potential. I believe the movie should have been split into two parts, if not three. For example, kid walker's journey to tomorrow land, his development of "that" instrument and its consequence could have been the crux of the first movie. Kid walker had spunk and was really lovable. I believe he would have been a instant hit.
The second movie, then, could have focused on the girl who eventually brings hope. This would have allowed the two protagonists enough room to develop and for the audience to relate to them much better.
Essentially, such a split would have hit all the emotional points much better, the movie required the much desired breathing space.
The biggest failing is the awkward "relationship" between the young robot girl and young boy, then old man who feels jilted about it decades later. Just the robot kids in general, "finding" those with the passion to change things. It's just odd.
I thought the relationship between young frank and Athena was the most interesting part to explore. Athena represented an idealistic escape from the world he knew, and when he discovered she was an animatronic, it broke him. Not just in a first heartbreak a teenage boy experiences kind of way, but in a way which casts a doubt over all he believed about tomorrowland, causing him to be the cynic he is now
It's totally obvious when you watch this movie that dozens of out of touch executives had their hands all over this project. It's like they were constantly looking over Brad Bird's shoulder and telling him what he should and shouldn't do. Which is a shame, because Bird obviously can use the retro-futuristic style brilliantly in his movies (The Incredibles and The Iron Giant are masterpieces). This movie really could have been something. It's still like a 5.5/10, but it's just not complete.
Honestly, I want more Space Adventure style movies. I'm tired of Star Wars, and I want more movies like Zathura that have rayguns, robots, rocketships, and fishbowl helmets, with evil alien overlords trying to take over the universe. I would have enjoyed Tomorrowland if it embraced the retro scifi more, or just stuck with the opening storyline.
Oof Zathura was awesome
I dont remember evil alien overlords in Zathura
@@DeathnoteBB I was talking about the genre in general, Zathura was an example of what I meant.
@@DeathnoteBB iirc, there were actually alien overlords that were apart of the board game in Zathura
Good video. Here's one thing you failed to mention, though. The movie had to run under two different names depending on the territory because of legal reasons. That's because in Europe, Tomorrowland is a world-famous EDM music festival. Heck, ask anyone who lives in Europe, or who is a massive EDM fan what Tomorrowland is, and they'll point to this music festival. Google will most likely direct you to the music festival rather than the movie because it knows what is the more popular of the two.
So how did they rename the movie here? "Project T". No, seriously. Project T. Could you imagine any more boring and non-imaginative name for a big scifi epic?
Edit: Sidenote: When Tomorrowland tried to do an American spinoff of its music festival, they had the same legal issues due to naming similarities with the ride. But they were a little more imaginative and named the US version "Tomorrowworld". Still not the greatest name, but still much better than Disney's "Project T". 🤣
Must be a main land Europe thing, the film is called Tomorrowland here in the UK.
In France it was called Tomorrowland
in Austria and Germany, it was called "A World Beyond"
That’s interesting !
@@Puremindgames Officially in the UK it was the clunky "Tomorrowland: A World Beyond"
This one probably needed a few for drafts of the script. It suffers the same problem as the Star Wars Prequels and MCU's Eternals. In that they're big budget movies with a lot of big and important ideas but fall flat in execution. Resulting in a bit of a boring mess with some enjoyable moments. Though I do respect Bird and Lindelof for trying to create something original.
For me the movie just felt too "corporate".
It felt more calculated than artistic.
Some movies feel like they're really just checking boxes down a list of "things the characters need to do/say to advance the plot"
especially when they get extremely tell-don't-show which this movie seems to struggle with immensely
even when the core idea, the characters, the concepts are a+ material
sometimes the overall execution feels like it was written by a committee of corporate executives
ikr, i thought I was watching a movie from early 2000s
The music didn't seem very carefully directed. It was as though it was slapped on there like a youtube video, rather than made bespoke to the movie itself.
I hope Brad Bird does more live-action films in the future. Ghost Protocol is still the most fun Mission Impossible film because of how playful and self aware it is.
I think the main problem in the movie is for a film called “Tomorrow Land,” the main character spends very little time in Tomorrow Land. yes we spent a lot of time building up the past of how it started, but once you learn Tomorrow Land is run down and in no way how it is in the 60’s, it seemed like a sad let down after staying in the past for so long getting to see this awesome place. The past should’ve been to just introduce the audience to Tomorrow Land, and then actually allow the main girl (I really don’t remember her name) to get to explore Tomorrow Land. I was expecting a movie about inventions and thrilling scientific discovers like the park provides, but what I got was a PG Mission Impossible, and we already have like 8 M.I. movies, we don’t need more!
I liked tomorrowland. It gave me strage feel between hope that the climate desaster we are facing can be solved and at the same time that inaction is going to make things worse not better. I was intriged by the fact that climatchange was the mein problem it tries to solve while also finding that point utterly stupid given that it is not a technological hurdle to solve it but rather one of doing it. The tech is there and it is proven. It is just not used due to scewed markets and legislation
What tech? No, Climate Change is NOT solved. Not even close.
You want to know the only answer we have right now outside of bandaid solutions that won't work ultimately?
Mass genocide. That's the only surefire solution we have right now.
Just look at the insane "Green New Deal" proposed by nutcases in Congress. Ignoring that it literally sets up a Fascistic, all powerful government that controls every single aspect of your life, it proposes to ban planes, cars, rebuild every home, apartment, and factory in America, removing Nuclear power, and banning meat.
After all that psychotic, destructive suggestions, which will result in massive amounts of dead in and of themselves, the GND would inevitable FAIL to do ANYTHING.
Ignoring that wind and solar are completely insufficient energy sources right now, and all the energy required to literally rebuild an entire nation, eliminating America's carbon emission would do... NOTHING.
Because China and India exist. And BOTH have refused to destroy themselves to stop Climate Change. Want to solve climate change? Nuke both of them.
Speaking of nukes, that is the ONE area where there IS a good solution that is being ignored. While wind and solar are unreliable at best, and require an insane amount of land, nuclear power is safe, compact, cheap, and green. Yet... No one suggests we switch to it. The GND even ELIMINATES it entirely!
So no, Climate Change is not fucking solved... Anyone who told you that is a fucking idiot or lying to you. The tech is NOT there, and it is a proven FAILURE, unless you are referring to Nuclear power.
Furthermore, you always have to make sure that the cure is not worse than the disease. Destroying society, mass genocide, global poverty, the end to scientific progress, and setting up a global Fascistic world government is not fucking worth fixing Climate Change...
That's like shooting yourself in the fucking head to "fix" your brain tumor...
@@davidtucker9498 You...really need a therapist.
We don't have the tech. What we need right now is development of the concepts that we know about. We know what the solutions should be...and the science supports it, but none of it has been developed, at all.
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The main issues are the wealthy, and the influence they exert on the economy such that developing nations are forced into an unsustainable position. That's what the profit motive does. But you can't shut those nations down, or it will not only wreck the lives of those people, but much of the rest of the world that now relies on their products.
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Short-term, the only real solution is to exterminate the billionaire class (and their immediate wealthy subordinates), and take all their shit, and redistribute it. It'll have nothing but positive impact on the economy, though a lot of crackpots will decry it as the death of civilization...because they have no concept of what civilization is. The billionaire class has no role in the world that isn't better served by other means. They're only cancer. The developing nations they've been exploiting are victims, not perpetrators. Get rid of the exploitation, and work to developing real solutions with the science we have, and they can be weened out of their circumstances.
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The reality is, climate change is mostly irrelevant. One way or another, life on this world will go on...for a few million years more, anyway, at which point the Sun's development will cause the planet to burn to a crisp. And the planet itself will be fine for another billion or so years...before the Sun just eats it. Our endgame needs to be abandoning the planet. Even if our climate were not currently being damaged by us, that would still have to be our goal. Planets are fine cradles for life and civilization...but they're irredeemably shitty homes.
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The only alternative is to just accept defeat. And, well, that's basically suicide. So, I don't really give a crap about the opinions of creatures who've already given up.
@@davidtucker9498 found the eco-fascist
@@davidtucker9498 Absolutely agree! People are afraid to look at the legislation and real world outcomes. All they parrot is "save the world" no matter the cost.
Tomorrowland is one of the most underappreciated films I've ever seen. It's a fantastic film with perfectly paced action. It was brilliant.
I've seen Tomorrowland and was genuinely surprised when you said it's about optimism in the face of overwhelming odds. I came away from it thinking the central message was, "Shame on humanity for letting this happen to the planet."
Always love these nerdstalgic videos. I’d love to hear your thoughts on why shows like the simpsons, family guy, and South Park just… work. Even through sometimes quick turn around writing to stay in relevant topics. Why does crude adult humor work for them where it seems to pick up slowly for shows like Big Mouth or the many other flops that come out with similar tones?
Funny thing is, I have a major amount of nostalgia for this movie and it just never occurred to me that not everyone did
I did like the film, despite it's failings. Brid is definitely right in that audiences do crave more original stories. The problem is, they are becoming harder to come by, and more of a financial risk for studios. If they had held back on some of the ideas and themes, in Tomorrowland, they could have explored more in a later film .
@@edwardhewitt9229 What do you mean? The sheer amount of money Disney put into this, and the trust they had in Brad Bird, showed that they thought this would be the start of a new franchise. It's Disney, they want everything to be a franchise.
You seem to have completely misinterpreted what I meant. Having to many themes to explore in a film, means it can lack focus. This can make the overall story seem to meander from one place to another, without being able to focus on one thing. This can lead to a lack of character development, missed opportunities of world building etc. and makes the world a more boring place. This is what happened in Tomorrowland.
What I suggested is standard editing. Cutting stuff out of a film, even if you don't want to, is what filmmakers have to do, in order to create a more succinct story. This happens constantly in filmmaking. That's why there are "deleted scenes" as dvd extras.
Usually if the film is successful, then they can explore those things in the sequel.
In 2013, to drum up some viral marketing for this, Disney did a weeks-long alternate reality/role playing story game thing called The Optimist around the LA area, at Disneyland, and at the D23 convention that year, and it was cool as shit. One of the coolest things I’ve ever done. It also involved receiving items in the mail that had secret messages. All retro-futuristic secret society themed. Needless to say, I was HYPE for this movie and I have never been more angry when exiting a theater. All the marketing was about this cool alternate dimension and then the movie spends like ten minutes there and also it’s revealed to be totally destroyed? What?
I really enjoyed the film, I think it's main issue was it tried to be too different, with basically everything it did, there was nothing to get people to sit down and watch the film
Had it been done as one of those old school adventure stories and actually filmed in Technicolor it could have been really cool, but as is it was kind of meh
Yeah, that would have been cool
Didn’t this failure lead to the Tron franchise getting killed? Would love to see a video on that.
Tron didn't earn Iron Man bucks, and a busy movie release schedule killed it.
I heard they planned to make Tron big but then they bought Star wars so they didn't care about tron
@@TheArtkaw Tron Legacy made enough to get a sequel.
What I would give to have seen The Force Awakens directed by Brad Bird
The idea of him doing the entire trilogy makes me wish he never took up this project.
It's weird that I had just watched a movie on problems with Disney Parks, and was just thinking about how they need to start building more rides that aren't based off movies like they used to. Right now they just throw crappy star wars or mcu costumes and decorations out there and expect people not to notice the lack of quality or originality. Disney World is just a money grab no magic about it. I guess I say that because it's a shame that Disney didn't even attempt to promote this movie more. Honestly there are obvious flaws in the movie, but had parents known anything about it, kids would have been fine with it. And at least it was something original. The mcu and star wars are cool, but not Disney's creations, and the star wars movies were horrible too. Only a matter of time before the MCU is ruined too. And thank God for Pirates of the Caribbean sequel cause they didn't ruin that enough already.
I have to agree with you. Despite that, I enjoy this movie quite a bit. The score by Michael Giacchino is something I've been listening to on an almost daily basis since 2015. "Pin-Ultimate" and "End Credits" are among the best tracks.
I’m currently working on a fan edit of this film and I’m going to be cutting out Frank’s entire backstory, I’ve watched the film before without it and it really adds a lot more mystery to both Tomorrowland itself and who Frank is
Get on it!
The true tragic irony behind Brad Bird's attempt to offer up something original was that he directed the sequel to the Incredibles in the wake of Tomorrowland's failure.
Brad Bird is one of my favorite directors. I really wanted to like Tomorrowland, but it was such an underwhelming film, at least compared to his other work.
I love how people try to go by the book and use this or that structure, this or that theme. It never is going to be organic unless you disregard that and use them as guidelines at best, if not ignore them all together and just write a good story. Have a general focus and see where the story takes you.
I only remember *one* thing about this movie: how happy I was when "There's a great, big, beautiful tomorrow ♫" started playing as the kid gets to Tomorrowland.
Pretty much the only time in the entire movie when it feels like Tomorrowland is going to be an important part of this movie titled "TOMORROWLAND."
I genuinely really enjoy this movie. Yeah, it's got its problems but what movie doesn't? & In all honesty, I agree with what Brad Bird was saying; The world needs more original stories & if they pique a person's interests, they'll probably enjoy it.
It’s the only movie that I watched with my dad in a cinema, enough reason for me to adore it ❤️
This was one of the most infuriating movies I had ever seen. It was basically Atlas Shrugged for 12-year-olds except we got to watch an 10-year-old girl get hit by a bus.
The screenwriter was Damon Lindelof. That explains almost everything.
What's crazy is, it's bioshock, so much so that I wonder if the writer did it in purpose.
There's a girl and a tower. There's a man and a city with a connection to the girl (the robot) who is somehow bound up in the nature of the city. The creator of the city made it to be a place where science and art could be without bounds. It all fell apart when 1 invention tore at the very fabric of the city.
Seriously. I got a huge big daddy-little sister vibe from George Cloony and the robo girl.
I loved the teaser trailer for this movie when it was first revealed, but the movie itself is so boring. It was a concept that was poorly executed.
This movie is the definition of good idea, poor execution
I still loved Tomorrowland it captures that inner child and fantasy like I haven't felt since back to the future
Reminds me of _Atlantis: The Lost Empire_ and how they had a completed intro with vikings being killed by the leviathan, then the story switching to Milo.
One of the writers realized it took 60 minutes to even get to the place the movie was even named after. Someone pointed out how this would sullen the film's plot. They decided to go back and completely reanimate the intro to include the Atlantians to fix the film, and honestly, it did.
Which ended causing more confusion.
Totally don’t understand the failure. I loved this film. It stood for all the tenants of the creative aspects of Disney (politics aside).
It wasn’t good
I loved it too!
@@DeathnoteBB, I think that’s a matter of subjective opinion.
But in times when films with awful looking cgi rhinos and obvious antagonists “revealed” to be protagonist’s parents for ridiculous aerial battles are considered “good”, I don’t know if the subject is worth the conversation anymore.
@DeathnoteBB shut up
I earnestly view this as one of if not the worst big studio films ever made, mostly because few films try so hard to be A only to end up Z. That ending where they don’t open up Tomorrowland to the world, but maintain the mentality that only the best and brightest can enter is so nihilistic after a story that wants to be so positive it boggles the mind.
I haven't seen it, but It sounds like it had the potential for something good, but they took much time "getting there" that there was no time to be there.
I remember living this movie so much when it came out. I was shocked when I found out years later that it wasn't a hit.
This is definitely one of those movies where, I like to say, had the right ingredients and even the right chef to cook them. But as it's being prepared some of the sous-chefs decide to add their own flavor to it that just leaves a bad taste. This movie definitely should have been a fun ride movie, but along the way it turns into too much of an activist movie. Probably because of Clooney or Lindelof.
We saw it when it was released in downtown Disney at the AMC theater. My daughter felt absolutely in love with the movie. She's 12 years old now and is still very much in love with the whole idea of it. So new movies are something that people want. It was a brilliant movie I just think people would rather stay in the make-believe world than work for a better future and any movie that tells them that they have to work for it is doomed to fail. I know lots of people who feel that way about the movie Wall-E as well.
4:29 At first I wasn't sure, but then I heard the voice and the "manner of speaking"--it's Dr. Gregory House!😂
The city of Tomorrowland in the movie was way too corporate and bland looking. It doesn’t make me think “innovation and freedom of invention”, it makes me think “Apple headquarters”. Sure, there’s some people demonstrating gadgets and whatnot throughout but the setting just doesn’t reflect the ideals they’re trying to portray.
There’s actually a fan edit out there that exists called tomorrowland The dreamers cut which truly Fixes pretty much all the problems The Movie has by removing the frame story and adding all of its deleted scenes back in that also seems to truly portray what the True vision of the movie was meant to be
Do you know where we can find / watch this fan edit? I'm really interested in it
@@misseli1 It’s easier if I’m able to send it to you.I don’t know if you can still message on CZcams, but if you’re on Twitter you can go to my CZcams channel and click the link and add me and I may be able to do something there or find some other way to message/email it to you :-)
I will admit, this was a nice tribute to Disney’s legacy of progress.
I wish other voices were on a separate channel. The original guy has the best voice.
All I remember about this movie is that I was forced to go see it on a school trip on my birthday back when I was a teen and cringed my way throughout it because of how much it felt like it was talking down to its audience. Best birthday ever... Not.
I dug this movie when it came out, but I do have to say that my favorite thing surrounding the movie were the pins movie theaters gave out.
I still love Tomorrowland and I actually sought out the movie acute pins and NASA hat in my opinion I think this movie failing to find an audience is what cause Disney to jump head first heavier in the the terrible live action remakes cause after this move showed them the majority of the audience will not come see new ideas just sequels remakes and prequels so since the movie they haven’t really done a original idea in live action even though I saw Tomorrowland in theaters
Thank you so much for actually acknowledging that Disney’s dinosaur is in fact based off a ride there’s literally no one else is really acknowledge that so far :-) my favourite of the Disney feature animation, it is A member of that, based on A Disney theme park ride, and is also in fact a live action remake of the dinosaur/rite of spring segment from the original Fantasia :-)And as such, the only Disney feature animated movies that does not need a live action remake, the more sequels/installments related to it though please! :-)
Congrats on 1mil!
I saw this movie back in highschool and even then I felt that this movie is super boring.
It is so boring that I can't even recall anything from the clips showed in this video.
Honestly, I loved Tomorrowland! Yeah, it's missing some key directions, but for the most part really enjoyable and absolutely original, which means Brad Bird was right. I guess it's also a little depressing for a family film (a bit disappointed with the contrast between the AU and reality tbh), but it has SUCH POTENTIAL!
Tomorrowland is a classic. Flawed, sure, but unique. There is really nothing else like it. It is in essence a 21st century fairytale that the Jungian Marie-Louise von Franz would definitely have analyzed.
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I’ve gotta be honest, I very clearly remember seeing that teaser trailer in the theatre, and leaning over to my friend or maybe my mom to whisper something along the lines of “Ooh, that looks good.”
I remember watching this on a field trip in 2nd grade. I loved it
I watched at least part of this film and still only remember my sense of confusion about it which makes me wonder if I just fell asleep and never felt interested enough to try watching it again
I'm glad I clicked on the Digg article that led me here - You have a soothing voice, and make good observations.
The biggest disappointment is learning that Brad Bird could've been in charge of the Star Wars reboot 😔😭
What we got now wasn’t any better though with bland Rey character and completely undermines Anakin’s redemption.
@@calebray1834 my point exactly lol
I loved this movie, perhaps its one of my favourite films of all time. After you pointed out what it was missing, it just made me love this film even more. Theres just something about the films sense of eerieness and loneliness combined with a hopeful theme.
I actually really enjoyed this movie, especially the character Athena, but I do agree with the criticisms as well.
Idk why but when I first saw the trailer, I thought the girl was going to be from a post-apocalyptic kind of time and would time travel to bring a better future or something. Tomorrowland is my favorite part of Magic Kingdom, its theming and rides (Carousel of Progress and Space Mountain) have inspired me a lot. Unfortunately, this movie was very dull and disappointing. I guess I was expecting something much more grand, dynamic and fun. It also feels like the actual "Tomorrowland" setting in the story was so non-present and underutilized. Meet the Robinsons (or maybe even Wall-E) was probably a better spiritual adaptation of the spirit of Tomorrowland. I was really looking forward to this live action Tomorrowland movie and I think the concept of the land itself is still worth giving a movie to that's more on par with Pirates of the Caribbean.
I thought the movie was...OK. The thing is, I wanted to see the movie the trailers teased - a girl discovering a secret world, finding the one guy who can help her get in, and having an adventure there. Not a whole movie about getting into an empty world with only a single bad guy in it. All the cool stuff I wanted to see was fake - it felt like a bait & switch. But I *did* get excited by the initial trailer, and told the person with me "I want to see that"
I love this movie - a real hidden gem in my opinion
As a kid i loved this movie, now i wonder why
I'm 68 and saw the movie a couple of times, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I can't agree with your assessment that the movie was boring or complaints about character development. I had no trouble whatsoever in following the plot or engaging with the characters. I will, however, agree that the films exploitation was sorely lacking.
My theory is that the 'powers that be' saw the movie as a story of hope for a society riddled with manufactured cultural wars, manipulated race wars and all sorts of civil debauchery that they themselves control, and they certainly can't be promoting a future world of hope and prosperity. It's interesting that there is ONE person who controls it all, and turns out to be a maniacal psychopath with a 'God complex'. (ref: KS, GS, WEF}
And the 'monologueing' at the end is the most important part of the film as it reveals and explains the entire concept of Tomorrowland. .For me this was a truly inspirational film and I would love to see a sequel.
I remember this fondly as a kid. Watched it several times.
2:02 damn Bird should’ve been the director of STAR WARS TFW. It would have actually been good if he directed it.
"did tomorrowland have potential?" idk, due to the lackluster marketing of it i nvr even knew it existed until today xD
I honestly think simply marketin it well wudve made the movie a box office success, tho not a huge one, bcuz the audience of parents and their kids wudve gone and watched it and enjoyed it enuf despite the boringness. The first weekend or two wudve been the usual disney movie sales or at least near them and then itd drop off quickly as no one new wud be interested bcuz of the lack of the movie being interesting. But still wudve at least not been a huge flop.
I remember wanting to watch this and then leave the theater thinking it was boring
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My problem Tomorrowland is the same I have about Cabin In The Woods. They spend so much criticizing movie trends, they don't come up with some cool new idea that opens up a world of ideas, they just bitch about film maker's overusing old ideas.
Tomorrowland even kind of falls on its face, as the "solution" the characters come up to save the world is to just poach more talent without giving Earth the technology they've created. They come off as an elite setting up a gated community, just not a stagnant one like the one that came before.
I can remember being excited about seeing this film, imo it's ok but yet kinda boring. It just wasn't the type of movie ya care to see twice.
This film is NOT boring. The theme and message is empowering.
The film IS boring.
I didn't mind this film at all. Sure, it's no blockbuster, but it's certainly entertaining - which is usually all I'm looking for in a family film. It has a lot of good humour and, aside from the twee parts, it's original.
The guy mentioned was right, we do want original stories. We don't need a 'Fast and Furious 25'. If they're not milking a franchise dry, they're either remaking classics unnecessarily or giving the original movies bad prequels or sequels. Using the success of other films (Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters etc) and then just cobbling together some story around them is not original, it's lazy.
At least Tomorrowland tried something different.
Could've done without the subplot about a middle-aged man in love with a robot that will forever be an underage girl.
This movie failing was one of the big causes of the Disney Live action remake era.
Why spend so much money and try to be creative or original on movies if they’re just gonna flop anyway, when you can just remake a classic in live action that people will flock to and make more money.
These live action remakes aren’t all bad, they serve a purpose. They pave the way and make the money needed for the movies and shows we love like Marvel and The Mandalorian
I was one that was looking forward to this thing, my disappointment was enormous. It was inexplicably dumb. It though it was being smart but that just highlighted how stupid the story/script was. They casted an actress that looked like she had been held back a grade for the past ten years but I guess it helped explain her lack of reasoning skills, like when she runs into a river because she didn't realize the pin was an illusion after already running into things. The Clooney character being a pedophile was not family friendly and his persona seemed to be crafted to undo any of the actor's natural charisma. Bird had a pass for creating the Iron Giant but this movie used up all the good will I had for that director.
He wasn't a pedophile? he was in love with her as a kid, and still held feelings for her. She was never immature, on top of that she was simply in a child-like frame. She wasn't a kid, she was a robot.
@@rini9325 disgusting
Wasn't the "kid" also a robot? The story was so forgettable.
@@TheArtkaw Yes, she/it was a robot. The Clooney character didn't grow out of his attraction, as an adult man he kept pining for her/its affection instead of maturing and accepting her robotness or being turned off by the fact that she still looked very much like a preteen girl.
@@rini9325 The Clooney character didn't accept her as an artificial life form that could not return his feelings. As a grown man the sight of a preteen girl, no matter how mature she acts, should at least temper his feelings and evolve them to platonic fondness or at the very least discomfort at his attraction. Instead he acts like a spurned old boyfriend that seeks to reconcile.
Spot on review my friend. I had such high hopes for this one and love the concept. I enjoy the worlds fair scenes the best.
Being a huge Disney theme-park fan. I really wanted to love it. The visuals and directing were not bad. I’ll still watch it again for that. I am leaning on the issue being on the writing. Lost’s last few seasons were a train wreck. This had a very similar disjointed writing style, including a copout ending.
This was honestly one of my favourite movies ever as a kid lol. The ideas were pretty great, and exactly the sort of thing I liked, but it had so much wasted potential in just about everything else
I really like this film and watch it quite often. I like the idea of the smartest people in the world going somewhere and inventing stuff without corruption or selfishness just to try and improve the world. It's how the world could be if big business didn't just care about money but cared about making the world a better place and cared about the environment. Also if people were less selfish.
Hugh Laurie's speech is brilliant. The line where he says "you have epidemics or obesity and starvation. Explain that one" was so true. It's a shame it failed. Everything these days is reboots, remakes or superhero films and this was something different. Also it was very bright and optimistic whilst a lot of films feel they have to be dark and depressing.
Wasn’t that basically the idea behind Rapture?
Disney already did a story about a guy with a rocket pack. It’s called The Rocketeer.
That is a great movie, based on a comic book I believe.
I watched all 4 trailers before this came out, went to the theater to see it (which I rarely do), and bought the blu-ray (which I only do for movies I truly love). I thought the story was fine, but more so the concept of a separate world that focuses on ways to make this one better is such a great story (and the Disney I loved before it went full on money machine). This movie is absolutely relatable in 2015, and even more so now. Hugh Laurie's speech about how even when you tell the public about doom coming, they don't fear it but rather embrace it (because that future asks nothing of you today) is so true. So many people complain about things getting worse but nobody wants to put in the effort to improve things. I was really hoping for a sequel but clearly that's not going to happen.
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You bring up Cloverfield and Blair Witch's ARG marketing campaigns in reference to the film's vague trailer, but Tomorrowland actually did have a similar internet rabbit hole surrounding it with its "1952 Mystery Box" and "The Optimist" campaign focused around Walt Disney and the Disney Company's involvement in constructing the city seen in the film and covering its existence up with the theme park land being a secret training center. When the film switched release dates around with Maleficent, it ended up creating a large time gap between the release of the movie and the ARG and by the time the movie came out, Disney had shut down all the sites related to The Optimist for months.
And despite Lindelof basically pitching this movies at cons as a Da Vinci Code conspiracy surrounding Walt Disney, nearly all the elements related to it outside the Small World bit were removed because "Having Walt Disney in the movie made it feel like too much of a Disney movie".
i remember the movie, but as you were showing clips, i was like wow i forgot the entire plot, like i had competely forgotten about the robot girl
Always great when you ask a question and never really answer it.