Never Use A SHOP VAC Without One Of These!! (Shop Vac Filter Bags/How HEPA Filters Work...)

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    Never Use A SHOP VAC Without One Of These!! (Shop Vac Filter Bags/How HEPA Filters Work...)
    Almost everyone has a shop vac...and nearly everyone uses it incorrectly. Shop vacs can cause an even worse mess by distributing harmful, toxic dust around your rooms. This short video from The Honest Carpenter will show you the easiest ways to make your shop vac safe and highly effective!
    FILTRATION is the biggest problem with most shop vacs. People tend to rely on the supplied canister/cartridge filter to catch everything.
    These filters are good for much of the larger debris we suck up. But, they're often very poor at filtering out much smaller debris. Instead, they tend to eject these harmful particles back out into the room, where they settle on everything!
    Also, the pleats in the shop vac filter can easily become clogged, bogging down the motor and making the tool work less efficiently.
    The best thing to do to prevent these problems is use a SHOP VAC FILTER BAG.
    These fabric bags, used in conjunction with the shop vac canister/cartridge filters, do a great job at catching the much smaller particles that normally get circulated back into the room.
    They make a world of difference when vacuuming up DRYWALL DUST, which is often too small to be picked up by just the cartridge filter.
    BUT, normal filter bags and cartridge filters aren't enough to catch the most dangerous debris--particles in the .3 micron range. Particles of this size slip through our filters with ease.
    In order to get maximum air filtration out of your shop vac, you need to use HEPA filters--High Efficiency Particulate Air Filters. These custom filters catch up to 99.97% of particles .3 microns in size.
    Rigid produces a great HEPA filter kit for their 12-16 gallon shop vacs. These HEPA shop vac filtration kits are OSHA approved for Table 1 work!
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  • @andyjame6835
    @andyjame6835 Před 8 měsíci +111

    If you’ve never used an air filter these are great. czcams.com/users/postUgkx_dppjvjF8BYEmPSDTcgCUdRsgWYLXNHN I ended up with three after starting out with one. The noise level depends on the 1-3 settings with how hard you want the machine to work. You can also upgrade the filters and get one better for pet hair and smells which is a must have in my home. I noticed the air seemed lighter and easier to breathe when running the machine for the first time. Works great every time. Highly recommended!

  • @boogiedahomey
    @boogiedahomey Před 2 lety +100

    You're the first person I've heard who understands particle size and capture (MPPS). Most manufacturers don't even understand it or explain it in their literature or on their websites. Kudos!

    • @harleyme3163
      @harleyme3163 Před rokem +1

      in masks sure but vacuums are hardly impotart enough to warrant that kinda info... you wanna change it? just use a flat n52 rated filter... on things stick off the FALL off... easy hehe.. expensive but you'll never have to replace it

    • @charleshines7282
      @charleshines7282 Před rokem

      They don't discuss it because they realize their product may on a technical level not be as good as they say it is. They just want you to believe that theirs is the one you need.

    • @emiliaescobar7652
      @emiliaescobar7652 Před rokem

      Glad I saw this, I just bought a wet/dry vac, definately will get a filter bag!

    • @bobstranzenbach4700
      @bobstranzenbach4700 Před 3 dny

      I wish there could be sets like that for all makes

  • @thatfeeble-mindedboy
    @thatfeeble-mindedboy Před 5 měsíci +16

    Just remember, the finer the filter, the more resistance it adds if not compensate with major additional surface area. If you always pick up a lot of hair that makes it harder to clean your filter, you can wrap one layer of a fine netting (Walmart sells it as “Thule” In the wedding decorations area) … It adds virtually no resistance, but will trap the pet and human hair before it enters the filter, and is easily peeled off prior to cleaning and takes all the hair with it and it’s super cheap.

  • @wchops7578
    @wchops7578 Před 2 lety +611

    The way I tackled this when dealing with drywall dust was to attach a 15 foot hose to the exhaust port and stick that out the window so no air or dust was recirculating In the house

    • @travis419
      @travis419 Před 2 lety +23

      Life hacks

    • @singlefather01
      @singlefather01 Před 2 lety +82

      Thank you for being my neighbor, jerk.

    • @murderedouttt3055
      @murderedouttt3055 Před 2 lety +21

      I use the rigid muffler, works like a charm

    • @verntoews6937
      @verntoews6937 Před 2 lety +8

      Yeah, me too, with the long exhaust hose outside

    • @jamesmchugo9422
      @jamesmchugo9422 Před 2 lety +40

      Your neighbors must love you. A water vault works better so does using a fine particular dust bag. That added hose reduces you vacuums power and runs the fine dust through the vacuums impeller, wears it out much faster.

  • @JaybirdOnTheRun
    @JaybirdOnTheRun Před 2 lety +141

    @The Honest Carpenter Ethan, I utilize a wet towel over my exhaust on my shopvac to catch any fine particulates that happen to pass through my HEPA filter cartridge. I just strape it down with some bungees and make sure to keep it damp. Great for working in an occupied residence.

    • @PlayshotKalo
      @PlayshotKalo Před 2 lety +4

      Great idea. Thank you

    • @chelin7023
      @chelin7023 Před 2 lety +7

      Thank you! So many smart people out there …

    • @TheeRocker
      @TheeRocker Před 2 lety +5

      Nice,,, a reverse swamp cooler :D

    • @nwskipro
      @nwskipro Před 2 lety +1

      I used this method as a stop gap but the rag dried out almost instantly. Works well for a quick vacuum

    • @DM-lk5ym
      @DM-lk5ym Před 2 lety

      Great idea, what kind of towel did you use?

  • @phongdang2874
    @phongdang2874 Před rokem +24

    You can also knock off the dust from your filter using an orbital sander (without any sanding pads). The vibration will get most of the fine dust off

  • @GreyerShade
    @GreyerShade Před 2 lety +72

    Im glad that someone is going to make it big by being honest at something. Too many people getting their success from corruption and taking advantage. Never lose this honesty from your endeavors.

  • @squarenailco1747
    @squarenailco1747 Před 2 lety +31

    Always used a nutone hepa vac since I got my lead safety certifications 20 years ago! They are expensive and impractical but didn't have any other options for a long time! Since then I have come up with a few different options water filtration being the best! Used a two stage separation chamber to catch the bigger stuff, then water filtration for the third chamber! Keep s the dust from getting to the final filter and the weight from being to much for the main bulk of the material! Its kind of cumbersome and awkward but keeps my "Older" homes I work in more safe , and easier to clean up at the end of the project! Got the idea from the rainbow vacuum cleaner! Basically a cyclone system co.bined with a rainbow vac!

  • @jayson3900
    @jayson3900 Před 2 lety +181

    I'm 40 now but when I was in my 20s learning my trades working for other people the man I learned drywall/painting from wasn't big on masks and shop vacs. My lungs ache constantly due to how much crap I breathed in. Take care of your lungs. I can't stress this enough.

    • @onenikkione
      @onenikkione Před 2 lety +7

      You are so Right. Sorry to hear about your condition, have you ever been screened for lung cancer?
      Also, the No 1 cancer is.......
      1. Lung (1.8 million)
      2. Colorectal (0.9 Million)
      3. Liver (0.8 Million)
      Lung Cancer is 2x the second most deadly

    • @rorybellamy2533
      @rorybellamy2533 Před 2 lety +2

      I agree completely

    • @MotherAlgorithm
      @MotherAlgorithm Před 2 lety +9

      I had to quit carpentry at 25 from developing asthma

    • @jayson3900
      @jayson3900 Před 2 lety +4

      @@onenikkione Nope. Never been checked. I have so many health problems as it is and most of them are from work with the exception of Lyme disease/ fibromyalgia. For that one, I’m still not entirely sure which it is. I tested positive for Lyme years back but a tested negative the second time a few years back and fibromyalgia runs in my family but the only way to confirm it is to run several tests to rule everything else out which I can’t afford.

    • @jayson3900
      @jayson3900 Před 2 lety +4

      @@MotherAlgorithm I’m sorry to hear that. I had asthma as a child. It sucked and still bothers me sometimes.

  • @kbenk108
    @kbenk108 Před rokem +26

    This was a great video - keeping our lungs safe is often overlooked by DIYers. Please do more videos like this - for healthy lungs, but also knees, and lower back.

  • @jeffstangl1471
    @jeffstangl1471 Před 2 lety +15

    Spreading safety knowledge is commendable, although most mechanics I know laugh at my concern for lungs, eyes, and ears.

    • @statik47
      @statik47 Před 2 lety

      I call these people morons. This is the reason why they are blue collar workers in the first place. Many years later they can't figure out why they have so many health issues. 🙄 Not all blue collar workers are this way. Some are really intelligent people. However, it has been my experience that the dumb ones outnumber the intelligent ones.

  • @mikel4510
    @mikel4510 Před 2 lety

    Best explanation on the the dangers of , and proper fixes for, dust collection in a shop. Outstanding! I even watched the ad at the end.

  • @eunhyuekpark6159
    @eunhyuekpark6159 Před 2 lety +38

    I never even knew these bags existed for the shop vac. This will be a great edition to my diy dust collector. Thanks for the heads up and another great vid.

    • @thechosenone3504
      @thechosenone3504 Před 2 lety +2

      Its worth its value in gold. I won't even use my vac without one now, thats how much easier clean up and safety has become

    • @clarkpalace
      @clarkpalace Před 2 lety

      ? I dont know how u cant know about a bag. Its the cost that discourages people

  • @mikeschirber3241
    @mikeschirber3241 Před 2 lety +9

    I learned to add 2 pieces of duct tape onto the outside of filter bag to reinforce it where the debris hits the bag as it enters it. This keeps the sharp objects from tearing the bag and defeating its purpose.

  • @danielgomes4754
    @danielgomes4754 Před 2 lety

    I started putting one of these bags in my shop vac and it was such a blessing. Clean and no mess. I got mine from Amazon but saw that Walmart sells them too. Though you cant use it in wet mode., Its a must have!!!

  • @165Dash
    @165Dash Před 2 lety +9

    Wow!!!
    This may be the most useful video I have seen on CZcams since the last century.

  • @shericreates
    @shericreates Před 2 lety +24

    I have never heard of the filter bag before. Thank you. I have a dust cyclone but don’t use that all the time for other uses. I notice my machine gets covered with particles. Can’t wait to try this!

    • @stephanieray6587
      @stephanieray6587 Před 2 lety +1

      I wondered if someone was going to mention the Cyclone... love those things!

  • @gregkosinski2303
    @gregkosinski2303 Před 2 lety +58

    Another thing I’d recommend is using a broom and dust pan for big loads of easy to get crud. It will save your bags and filters and the fine particles will not be essentially throwing a ton of particles into the air like the blower on your vacuum would.

    • @leroypoole1998
      @leroypoole1998 Před 2 lety +9

      I made my own system where everything goes into a large 50 gallon barrel and then goes to the shop vac. Basically a diy and larger version of the dust rite system by rockler. Works great and don't have to worry about filling up my shop vac. Getting the hepa upgrade for my ridgid is a no brainer.
      And the money pit continues...

    • @gvet47
      @gvet47 Před 2 lety +1

      Greg you can tell who is too lazy to use a broom.🤣

    • @DM-lk5ym
      @DM-lk5ym Před 2 lety +1

      @@thomashajicek2747 Aha, so that's what the shop vac "muffler" is for, TIL.

    • @duster.
      @duster. Před rokem +10

      If I am using a broom I first throw down some damp sawdust or failing that lightly spray the floor with water from a spray bottle

    • @ablanccanvas
      @ablanccanvas Před rokem +3

      @@duster. | Smart!

  • @trentthompson2928
    @trentthompson2928 Před rokem

    After watching this video and a few others, I bought a 12 gallon Rigid with the hepa filters. Such a big difference!!! Thank You again for your help and insights!!!

  • @corujariousa
    @corujariousa Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video. I have the same Ridgid Shop-vac. I have recently come across this shop-vac bag and can confirm it makes a huge difference. Plus it makes the discard of dirty much easier and convenient.

  • @TheReal1953
    @TheReal1953 Před rokem +4

    I've been preaching the use of barrel liners AND use of pleated filters at the same time for yrs. I've even figured out methods to retrofit barrel liners in older shop vacs that weren't designed for them. Thanks for explaining HEPA bags and their purpose.

    • @themikeroberts
      @themikeroberts Před rokem

      Are you saying the barrel liners are better than non-barrel liners? My vacuum only has non-barrel liners available.
      Have you by chance figured out how to use a barrel one on a small 4 gallon vac?

    • @TheReal1953
      @TheReal1953 Před rokem

      @@themikeroberts Are you talking about the paper filter that goes over your pleated filter and is usually held in place by a friction ring? Yes, that's better than just using the pleated filter. What I was talking about is converting older shop vacs that didn't come with barrel liners, to barrel liners. Most times it can be done. No way I can tell you without yours in front of me.

    • @gedionsamuel2256
      @gedionsamuel2256 Před 11 měsíci

      @@TheReal1953I wish you’d make a video just to explain the details.

    • @TheReal1953
      @TheReal1953 Před 11 měsíci

      @@gedionsamuel2256 Love to, but vids aren't in my bag of tricks.

  • @assembleellc2486
    @assembleellc2486 Před 2 lety +17

    Wow I really appreciate the advice! It's crazy how you cover the most basic concepts which people like myself, who have been in the trades for a few years now, didn't know. Thanks again!

  • @dannymeil3294
    @dannymeil3294 Před 2 lety

    I bought a small rigid vacuum and before I use it I was thinking about putting bags in it. But I’m happy for you explaining everything you said. Great information

  • @gordroberts53
    @gordroberts53 Před 2 lety

    Best description of the problem and solution I’ve seen. Happily I recently purchased one of the Rigid vacs. Thanks for sharing!

  • @tonyc7352
    @tonyc7352 Před 2 lety +27

    Yes, this is a surprisingly little-known truth. I went through same learning frustration. Another revelation to me was when I added a dust deputy cyclone to that setup. Now my bags/filters last waaaaay longer.

    • @mikedobell4964
      @mikedobell4964 Před rokem +2

      Dust deputy is a game changer. I tell everyone about this thing

  • @audiophileman7047
    @audiophileman7047 Před rokem +10

    This is an excellent video, Ethan! I was wondering if you'd cover HEPA filters and you did!! A lot of people don't get to that. Be aware that your Ridgid shop vac HEPA set-up can leak and the only way to verify it is not leaking due to a breach in the filter or incorrect seating of the filter is to conduct a challenge test. This is normally done with vac's that are used to vacuum asbestos and lead containing dust to ensure that the HEPA filtration is working properly. As someone who has worked in the Haz Mat field, I've seen HEPA equipped systems fail the challenge test. Another good thing to do is to wet dusty materials to keep the dust levels down. 👍👍👍

  • @joanies6778
    @joanies6778 Před 2 lety

    Brilliant! I didn't even know the bags existed. I did purchase a filter for the outlet and that alone made a difference. This is so much better!

  • @SabraZ850
    @SabraZ850 Před rokem

    We are new homeowners and last year bought a house built in 1880. It had a very old fireplace which was unusable due to the unlined chimney; because of this we assessed the best solution was to have a gas fireplace installed. But before that could happen, we needed to clean out the ash trap that had at least a 100 years of compacted ash. It took my husband and I a weekend to remove over 30 lbs of ash, (using our new shop vac and multiple HEPA filter bags. Yes; first we started from the fireplace and worked down. They we had to go to the basement ash return and work up). It was a messy job; but made much less messy with the proper tools and filters.
    Thank you so much for this informative video. Thanks to you we had the proper tools for the job and were successful in our mission. Now we have a beautiful/functional fireplace for pesky Minnesota winters!

  • @GaiaCarney
    @GaiaCarney Před 2 lety +4

    Honest Carpenter, thank you thank you thank you 🙏🏾 you are educating the people about harmful vacuum exhaust products 🕊 the SAME thing happen with non-HEPA home vacuums, too 😵

  • @BeauChampion
    @BeauChampion Před 2 lety +6

    I have that vacuum and am preparing to set up my first home shop, so this was very timely. I'll check it out!

  • @nemo227
    @nemo227 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you. This is ANOTHER very useful video by The Honest Carpenter. I'm taking your advice TODAY! When it comes to your health and safety the cost isn't really a debatable point.

  • @hali22996
    @hali22996 Před 2 lety +1

    I always learn something new from this channel, always a unique take. Great Job!

  • @jayhitek
    @jayhitek Před 2 lety +6

    I also added a poor mans dust cyclone before my shop vac that I got from woodcraft. (Supply your own 5 gal bucket). Works great. Less replacement bags to buy.

  • @enufots4621
    @enufots4621 Před rokem +4

    Wow, thanks...great info! For some reason I've always thought the filters in these shop vacs (all brands) are HEPA compliant. In addition, I've never thought about where the exhaust air comes out of it until this video. Since the air has to go through the cylindrical filter...that means it exhausts thru the grillworks on the center top cover. No wonder that there always seems to be very fine dust particles on the top cover.
    Hey, I love my shop vacs in the garage for quick clean ups instead of having to use a broom. I'm sure they're very much appreciated in a shop as well, but they sure give a false sense of security for your lungs!

  • @hectormata449
    @hectormata449 Před 2 lety

    I used a similar method some 20 years ago on my large Sears craftsman vacuum. But I put a smaller vacuum bag (less expensive) over the pleated canister held and in place at the top with a large rubber band; and I also put a hepa cloth bag over the exhaust and that has been working for me. I’m 77 and still active in sports and in my workshop. Thanks for confirming my safety idea that as a lazy handyman and Mr cheap o, I found this solution on my own some 19 years ago…after I realized how expensive those replacement pleated canisters cost and how quickly they get clogged.

  • @TJ-mo9xv
    @TJ-mo9xv Před 2 lety +2

    I love watching your videos. I purchased a fine dust bag with my shop vac but I always learn something new watching your videos. Thank you.

    • @TheHonestCarpenter
      @TheHonestCarpenter  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you, TJ! I appreciate you watching. That fine dust bag will cut down on your air contaminants drastically 🙂

  • @ucanoe
    @ucanoe Před 2 lety +8

    Hi, the inside bag option is not bad but I would think it reduces suction a lot. What I do... is use an old T-shirt and a couple elastic bands to cover the pleated filter. This extends its life and I tap the filter out periodically. children's T-shirts are a bit better because they fit better but not necessary. one large band at the top and a small band to tie off the neck and sleeve openings. or you can sew that shut, you get the idea 😁

  • @toonman361
    @toonman361 Před 2 lety +3

    I see many alternatives listed here to your solution. I believe they do not take into account the average homeowner wants an effective solution that is easy to install. The price of the filter and bags is around $50. That's an excellent cost for a highly effective system in an average household. Thanks again for your advice HC.

  • @MJKCreations
    @MJKCreations Před rokem

    Thank you for this video! I had just ordered the ridgid vac setup for myself, including the bags. I didn't know about all the benefits, but I do now. Thank you so much!

  • @vidatomica
    @vidatomica Před 2 lety

    I just bought myself the Ridgid HD1600 and the HEPA filter to upgrade from the filter it came with. I just had no idea about the bag I could also use to catch the dirt im vacuuming. Thanks to you and this video, I'm getting one tomorrow.

  • @andrewk-majordochomerepair6014

    Not only do I always use a filter bag, but also use a Rockler Dust Right dust separator that significantly prolongs the longevity of each $6 fillet bag that would otherwise get clogged and filled up very quickly.

  • @frederickwatson557
    @frederickwatson557 Před 2 lety +7

    Wow, thanks for opening my eyes to a problem that has always been in my shop. I'll start using the bags again. I stopped a while back thinking that when I added my cyclone to the shopvac system everything would be fine. The cyclone does work well but I have always had that fine covering of smaller particles all over my shop. I'll pay more attention, thanks to your explanation. You are amazing.

  • @loisvreeland7623
    @loisvreeland7623 Před 2 lety

    Bought a 16 gal. Rigid at a Black Friday sale. Will get the bag set too. Catching fits cleaning drywall dust at a rehab vacation home. This is exactly what I need. I'm frugal, but this is a convenience I'm willing to pay for because I do not use it routinely. The slide to cover the opening is a good feature. I have 2 older model canister vacuum cleaners in which I use HEPAs. They make a world of difference for allergies. TKS!!!

  • @patrickpolizzi7
    @patrickpolizzi7 Před 2 lety

    I bought one about 3 months ago to replace an older shop vac. Since I was removing drywal stuff, I also bought the bag. I loved it.

  • @lorimcquinn3966
    @lorimcquinn3966 Před 2 lety +3

    Seems like adding a seal to the motor enclosure and where the top of canister fits would add to the bag and Hepa filter improvements. I moved from a "improved" Craftsman Vac to a Festool Vac years ago and feel the difference is worth the $.

  • @jeremywright1351
    @jeremywright1351 Před 2 lety +69

    Everybody probably already knows this, but adding a cyclonic separator inline before the shop vac will greatly extend the life of your shop vac and its filters. I use Rockler's and it makes a huge difference (probably would not use it for cement, I use it for wood chips and sawdust).

    • @keithsargent6963
      @keithsargent6963 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes I have the same one , I got it several years ago and it amazes me how little dust ends up in the vac unit.

    • @frankking1466
      @frankking1466 Před 2 lety +1

      Amen 🙏🏼!!! If you only use a 5 gallon bucket and have it connected to your planer , keep an eye on it cuZ the bucket fills up really quick & then gets into vacuum & clogs filter

    • @jeremywright1351
      @jeremywright1351 Před 2 lety

      @@frankking1466 Frank, I had this EXACT scenario happen to me when I was helping my friend plane a bunch of reclaimed oak. Luckily I had an extra shop vac filter bag on hand.

    • @jeremywright1351
      @jeremywright1351 Před 2 lety

      @@Grauenwolf I actually bought a HEPA filter for the shop vac just recently. I haven't noticed any huge difference in performance for the price, honestly, but I felt like it was the right way to go.

  • @twistedbarbell3950
    @twistedbarbell3950 Před rokem

    Truly valuable info that I’m actually glad the algo pushed to my recommendations! Thank you for taking the time to explain this in a clear and concise manner!

  • @recyclespinning9839
    @recyclespinning9839 Před 2 lety

    Tried the bag and it works great. I had fine dust and it seemed less dust and the paint chips were already bagged. Thanks again.

  • @zawsas
    @zawsas Před 2 lety +14

    Awesome advise. Thanks for the scientific info. I have been using this for years and they’re excellent and A MUST HAVE. Keep up the great channel my friend!

    • @TheHonestCarpenter
      @TheHonestCarpenter  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you, zawsas!

    • @robertapreston4200
      @robertapreston4200 Před 2 lety

      My issue is, I can hardly afford a filter, let alone a hepa and a bag. So, my vac sits in the garage unused😶😒

  • @tylerkammerer4932
    @tylerkammerer4932 Před 2 lety +5

    I haven't tried the bag but I always use the HEPA filter for my shop vac(rigid ). I use it as my home vacuum and it works great.

    • @1943vermork
      @1943vermork Před 2 lety +1

      I have used HEPA canister filter from Rigid for few years to pickup drywall and ciment dust.
      I highly recommend the 20~30$ investment in such filter.
      And I regularly clean the filter with compressed air to restore the sucking power.

  • @jamesarthurbowers
    @jamesarthurbowers Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. I will have to look into those kits. At one point I had bought a bag filter for my Rigid Shop Vac but it didn't fit right. I had a 16 gallon unit but the blower detached to become a leaf blower and I think that was what was different. I don't have that shop or vac any longer so I can't check. Anyways what I did was use a Hepa filter and a cyclone dust separator and that eliminated almost all the dust I was generating (from sanding fiberglass) I think all 3 would work fantastic together as the bag and the filter would last a very long time with the separator collecting the big debris and most of the fine dust leaving the bag and cartridge filter to only have to collect the little bit of dust that got by.

  • @boatbyrd
    @boatbyrd Před 2 lety

    For over a year now, I’ve had difficulty finding filter bags, I assume something related to COVID. So this summer I was looking for a brand new vac. I couldn’t find bags for my 2 pretty old Fein’s, none for 2 fairly new Stanley’s, And Shop Vac bags have been out of stock at Lowes forever! I had seen good performance out of my employee’s Rigid, but not a single size/model came with a desposeable bag! I discovered that Stihl made a shop vac and it is awesome. Still, the store I bought it from didn’t stock replacement bags. Thanks for your work!

  • @markpinther9296
    @markpinther9296 Před 2 lety +35

    I never considered using both the pleated filter AND the bag. I always thought it would inhibit suction too much but I really appreciate you pointing this out!

    • @MG-cd9ek
      @MG-cd9ek Před 2 lety +7

      Use a sock works fantastic

    • @wolfgangzrx
      @wolfgangzrx Před rokem

      @@MG-cd9ek Expand please,so you mean a pre filter?

    • @MG-cd9ek
      @MG-cd9ek Před rokem +2

      @@wolfgangzrx nope just a sock. Works perfectly fine nothing else is required

    • @majhoop2317
      @majhoop2317 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@MG-cd9ek Do you mean use a sock over the filter , in place of the filter or something else? Thanks

    • @MG-cd9ek
      @MG-cd9ek Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@wolfgangzrx over top where the filter would go

  • @EdieBabeMonster
    @EdieBabeMonster Před 2 lety +8

    Oh dang turns out I have been doing it all along but I did learn about pulling up the tab to stop dust when taking bag out.

    • @TheHonestCarpenter
      @TheHonestCarpenter  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you, Edie! You were on top of safety long before I was by the sounds of it 😅 Those tabs are a great addition though!

    • @debbiekerr3989
      @debbiekerr3989 Před 2 lety

      I just found out I was doing the same thing, using the shop vac all wrong.

  • @robertsmith3518
    @robertsmith3518 Před 2 lety

    Been doing this for several years , Thanks for putting a YTV ! They are worth every dollar they charge . !

  • @keithlibner9259
    @keithlibner9259 Před 2 lety

    Rebuilt an old Chevy . Not much, but I did use a little filler, just enough to fry my shop-vac's motor. Expensive lesson and have used a filter bag since.

  • @EdieBabeMonster
    @EdieBabeMonster Před 2 lety +10

    Your the best! Thanks for the kick ass tips.

  • @NaserAlOqab
    @NaserAlOqab Před rokem +8

    Ethan, you're awesome! And you have a gem of a CZcams channel, especially for beginner woodworkers/home DIYers like myself. Thank you for your invaluable content, and much needed guidance!

  • @charlesbradford7233
    @charlesbradford7233 Před 2 lety

    Something I did not know, luckily a year ago we bought a ridged because we needed a shop vac and we like home depot. I will have to look out for the filter and bags set. Thank you very much. cheers.

  • @gabeslifestuff9691
    @gabeslifestuff9691 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi . I want you to know I’m a lung transplant recipient. And this is great news for me . And others.as I’m still able to do work with my 3m respirator. Boy it gets sweaty! This information will help keep me and others safe. Thanks

  • @MrCeora
    @MrCeora Před 2 lety +4

    This was EXTREMELY useful information. I was in the process of trying to vacuum up cement dust and was hesitant and not sure to rely on
    the filter that came with it, as it blows dust from the exhaust side of the vacuum. Thank you very much!

    • @TheHonestCarpenter
      @TheHonestCarpenter  Před 2 lety +3

      You’re welcome! Be especially careful with that cement dust-definitely want to use a good mask too no matter what!

    • @still34u
      @still34u Před 2 lety

      @@TheHonestCarpenter Eh .. nothing better better than some rock solid lungs!

  • @jimaronson2323
    @jimaronson2323 Před 2 lety +9

    Another great video. I did hear about this before but just never bought the filter bags. I like the idea of the HEPA filter. I'll be looking into those.

    • @paulsmith9341
      @paulsmith9341 Před 2 lety +1

      I purchased a pleated HEPA filter many years ago and it clogged up really quick. I didn't know about cyclonic gizmos back then so I wrapped it in a t shirt which helped immensely.

  • @michellegaza7740
    @michellegaza7740 Před 2 lety +1

    Great timing, I only used my new shop vac once. Thanks!

  • @fepatton
    @fepatton Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this! Just ordered the HEPA filter and bags for my Ridgid 4-gallon vac. I have been considering the Festool MIDI vac because I’ve been getting more worried about fine particulates, so you may have saved me $600!

  • @ubacow7109
    @ubacow7109 Před 2 lety +3

    This was what I needed to know a year ago when I got my first shop vac lol

  • @LBCAndrew
    @LBCAndrew Před rokem +10

    I use a “Herky Filters” reusable felt bag in my 14 gallon Ridgid and a CleanStream Hepa filter. Both are reusable and washable and have lasted me two years of moderate use and still going strong. I even tested it a while back by vacuuming up some fine powder that reacts to UV light and room stayed clean.
    Herky filters bags cost like $32 and are reusable and washable. I think the cleanstream reusable and washable filter costs like $35 or so.
    Much better deal than using those green hepa bags and filters.

    • @saxophonesunsetsmedia
      @saxophonesunsetsmedia Před rokem +1

      Just got a new Shop Vac brand 4 gal 5.5 HP vac at Lowe's. Are the Herky Filters compatible with my model? Thanks.

  • @ronaldhaynes9003
    @ronaldhaynes9003 Před 2 lety

    Great public service message. Thank you for this information.

  • @stevenlengyel9701
    @stevenlengyel9701 Před 6 měsíci

    I’ve started to use a bag in my shop vac and it does make a big difference 👍👍

  • @danieljones2183
    @danieljones2183 Před 2 lety +5

    Never realized they make bags for the shop vac. Learning something new

  • @tonybrown3453
    @tonybrown3453 Před 2 lety +119

    Other options, get more hose, put it on the exhaust port and stick exhaust hose out a window. Or, put the entire vac out side, use extra hose to reach where needed, quieter too. Also, after cleaning filter and changing bag (do this outside), start the vacuum once while outside. It will emit a puff of dust, only then take inside to use.

    • @padraics
      @padraics Před 2 lety +2

      Wish I could do that with my dust collector but it would pull all the conditioned air out of my shop in about two minutes. I am building a closet around it to block noise and force the expelled air to pass through hi merv HVAC filters before coming back into the shop

    • @kthompso43
      @kthompso43 Před 2 lety +2

      My shop vac has noticably MORE suction when I don't use filters. So, I do what you suggest, and use a long suction hose with the vac outside. The larger waste is still collected inside the vac.

    • @reallifeengineer7214
      @reallifeengineer7214 Před rokem

      @@padraics Possibly pass the air thru a heat exchanger and out?

    • @notimportant3686
      @notimportant3686 Před rokem +1

      this is a way better solution and one people could actually use... no one is going to stick with those bags past 1 or 2 uses, too much inconvenience

  • @renostubbs8504
    @renostubbs8504 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you my brother, I just got a second hand one,so I needed some help on how to work it

  • @theresacurrin6395
    @theresacurrin6395 Před 2 lety

    Great information! Just emptied my vac the exact way you described. Now I will use a bag. Thanks so much for sharing 👏👏👏

  • @JDKaye
    @JDKaye Před 2 lety +16

    Another excellent video, Ethan. You scored on two critical points… One, I use that exact same rigid shop vac., and two, I am a lifelong Asthmatic and this will make my time in the shop much more enjoyable! Thank you.

  • @radinsyah1574
    @radinsyah1574 Před 2 lety +8

    In my experience, using a cyclone dust separator hooked up to a shop vac is by far the best way. Even the bag stays cleaner so just imagine the vacuum’s filters. Dust disposal is also way more manageable and practical.

    • @karian2
      @karian2 Před rokem +3

      I installed a separator almost a year ago and can easily say it was one of the best thing I've done to the shop all categories.

    • @pck9465
      @pck9465 Před 6 měsíci

      Does using a dust separator reduce the cfm of the vacuum.

    • @radinsyah1574
      @radinsyah1574 Před 6 měsíci

      @@pck9465 In my honest experience, it actually increases the suction. No data though, and maybe it’s because of my hose setup.

  • @stevebulls7744
    @stevebulls7744 Před rokem

    A new subscriber. Thanks for the tip!! I've always been irritated with my filter clogging and no real easy way to clean it. Now I know!! Thanks!!

  • @Ps51bx
    @Ps51bx Před rokem

    Brilliant idea. Thank you. I will immediately purchase a filter bag

  • @rhouse4958
    @rhouse4958 Před 2 lety +3

    I just the same shop vac and use a filter and bag, plus a special filter for fine dust. Plus I wear a mask when dealing with drywall dust. But then again I read the instructions lol

    • @angellas.1314
      @angellas.1314 Před 2 lety

      Well that just makes a whole lotta sense 😆. Finally.

  • @rolfbjorn9937
    @rolfbjorn9937 Před 2 lety +8

    I made a homemade "cyclonic" separator with two 5 gallon buckets and a "thien" baffle. Shoddily assembled with orange buckets, hot glue, tuck tape, flexible vac hose and 2 in pvc piping and the bottom of one of the buckets cut into a baffle. I connected it to my 12 Gal Ridgid that has a bag and the 3 layer blue filter Only the finest even makes it into the bag. Contrary to fearmongers, plenty of ultra fines get trapped in the separator, not just big chips.

    • @frankking1466
      @frankking1466 Před 2 lety

      I made a cyclone dust separator too & didn’t even have to go buy anything for it!! Had pvc kickin around, had a 5 gallon bucket, some hot glue and even had some caster’s thanks to my hoarding/collection techniques!!!😊…I Frankenstein’d it & it works amazingly. Everyone says the bucket tips over & yes it did. So why not screw bucket to a piece of plywood/melamine/osb that’s a cpl inches bigger all the way around and throw some casters on it, mine hasn’t tipped yet!!! 👌🏼

    • @frankking1466
      @frankking1466 Před 2 lety

      I should patent the idea!!! 🤣 no joke, try it and see.

    • @donbushek
      @donbushek Před 2 lety

      You claim that “plenty of ultrafines get trapped in the separator”. How do you know that?

    • @rolfbjorn9937
      @rolfbjorn9937 Před 2 lety

      @@donbushek Considering the types of dust I vacuum, I should clog my filter AND have stuff ejected in the back after the vacuum IF the assumption that these separators only collect chips and large particle sizes.
      The fact that the bucket is caked with extremely fine powder below the baffle, that my vacuum inside is not, and the filter remains clean tells me I do trap a lot of very fine particles BEFORE the vaccum. Without the separator, the filter gets caked very fast even through a bag.

  • @wuer0012
    @wuer0012 Před 3 měsíci

    46yr old. Finally learned how to properly use a shopvac. Thank you.

  • @fixitdad1955
    @fixitdad1955 Před 2 lety

    Great Video. I've been doing it right. 1 trick that I use to clean out the Shop Vac Filter Pleet's is use a Portable Mini Leaf Blower!!!! WORKS GREAT for blowing off the Saw's & Tools of debris before putting them away too. Many uses and my Mini Leaf Blower uses the same Rechargeable Battery Packs as my Drill, Impact Driver's, Grinders and Circular Saw so I suggest trying out a similar setup.

  • @markb8954
    @markb8954 Před 2 lety +8

    I added an old sock over the exhaust pipe on our ShopVac. Amazing how much particulate matter/dust just blows out the exhaust. Those specialty dust bags are pretty expensive @ $18.00 for just two bags.

    • @meabob
      @meabob Před 2 lety +1

      knee high panty hose work good, too.

    • @nw24153ns
      @nw24153ns Před 2 lety

      @@meabobthanks! that brought a smile to my face ...I hope that was a spell check insertion of the word "pantyhose" when typing or dictating the word "hose" as I'm trying to picture myself with the stockings coming to my knees and then the panties (with no thighs or hips) I would look really funny & I expect you'd be laughing at me too

    • @garryholmberg6502
      @garryholmberg6502 Před 2 lety

      Buy a duststopper and 5 gallon pail at Home Depot and you'll never fill a bag, of if you do, it will be in a different income tax year.

  • @soritessoreites1207
    @soritessoreites1207 Před 2 lety +9

    I have about 50' of hose. Depending on the job I either keep the base close to a window or door and have an exhaust hose made up of one or two segments, and a long vacuum hose for the work. The alternative is a short vacuum hose and drag the base around with a longer exhaust hose. I like this guy's idea but it still doesn't catch everything. We have a dog that sheds a lot and you can smell the dander through any filter, those oils become vapor in the vacuum process. Test it with a few drops of perfume and a brand new hepa filter. It will instantly fill the house (for better or worse.) With an exhaust hose there's no smell.

    • @davidfuller764
      @davidfuller764 Před 2 lety

      Thanks

    • @qwertyboguss
      @qwertyboguss Před 2 lety +3

      That's because HEPA isn't designed to capture smells. Use an activated carbon filter if you want to rid of organic compounds.

    • @Kurt1968
      @Kurt1968 Před 2 lety +1

      longer hoses are nice but there are flow losses and you wont have as much suction.

    • @soritessoreites1207
      @soritessoreites1207 Před 2 lety

      @@Kurt1968 Flow loss is not an issue when the hose is on the exhaust side.

    • @echodelta9
      @echodelta9 Před rokem

      @@soritessoreites1207 I can't hit you on the head with the math but it is. Resistance in the path from atmosphere in to out, the motor is in the middle instead of at the end. Normally vacs are run with no resistance on the exhaust, but here is the exception. Total resistance throttles the airflow and dirt as well.

  • @samh9072
    @samh9072 Před 2 lety

    I went the same route for my setup but minus the hepa package. I first bought the dust stopper and 5 gallon bucket but I had problems with the bucket tipping due to my set up and limited space. Returned it and went the collection bag route. I’ll have to pick up the hepa package.
    Thanks

  • @richardstrada212
    @richardstrada212 Před 2 lety

    Another great piece of information that I never contemplated. Thanks again!

  • @ShakespeareCafe
    @ShakespeareCafe Před 2 lety +6

    The bags are cheaper than the filter, but not much
    I’ve reused the bags by cutting it open and reseal it
    I rely on an N95 mask and use a spare hose connected to the exhaust port to blow dust outside, not in the room you’re working in

  • @ajaehall7695
    @ajaehall7695 Před 2 lety +22

    One thing to keep in mind is that your body also filters the air you breathe. The reason small particles are so bad is that they can get very far into your lungs and get stuck. In the case of exhaust from vehicles, this means carrying carcinogens deep into your lungs. Obviously what you are vacuuming important to how dangerous the dust is.

    • @angellas.1314
      @angellas.1314 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, but you don’t want you “built in filters”, Aka lungs to be filed with this stuff. Can’t shake those out 😆

    • @nwskipro
      @nwskipro Před 2 lety

      Always good to control and limit the bad stuff going into your body as best you can, but also remember that your body is incredibly efficient at expelling toxins and foreign objects. Lungs are pretty incredible. Again best to limit and avoid, but in most cases limited exposure is nothing to lose sleep over.

  • @AaronRiegel
    @AaronRiegel Před měsícem

    Exactly what I was looking for. I'm trying to clean up after a concrete demo project

  • @machninety7334
    @machninety7334 Před 2 lety

    Your video actually turned out to be very imformative. I thank you.

  • @michaelfredt573
    @michaelfredt573 Před 2 lety +9

    Great info. Cleaning the attic, the dust from the exhaust was miserable . Wish I had seen your video first. Thank-you.

    • @TheHonestCarpenter
      @TheHonestCarpenter  Před 2 lety +3

      Attic dust is a whole different beast, Michael. Especially with the blow-in insulation used over the years. Next time the bag+filter (and a good mask) will work wonders for you! 😄

  • @blaster-zy7xx
    @blaster-zy7xx Před 2 lety +3

    I bought a house that happened to have central vac that exhausts outside. I used that as my shop vac for this very reason, no dust inside the house.

  • @patriceleeann6682
    @patriceleeann6682 Před 2 lety

    WOW I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD BUY FILTER BAGS FOR THEM THANK YOU 🥰♥️

  • @bigdaddy7670
    @bigdaddy7670 Před rokem

    Fantastic video, thanks for educating us on the HEPA filtration kits!!

  • @dianedo8314
    @dianedo8314 Před 2 lety +5

    I guess I never thought of having things “sucked up” and seeing the collection inside but never thought of particles that get let out.. The shop vac I have gave alike a fabric bag to put over for dry vac use but now wondering what is being de,eased that is not visible. Thanks for the tip and I will look into mine since I do plan on using it for new build when ready hopefully by mid to late December. Thanks as always.....

  • @michaelfrost5868
    @michaelfrost5868 Před 2 lety +7

    Another fine, informative video. Another job well done.

  • @adventuredad1614
    @adventuredad1614 Před 9 měsíci

    Great video! Thorough, yet efficient. Thanks!

  • @makaveli2tt
    @makaveli2tt Před 2 lety +1

    A pleasure to watch this channel and learn. Very informative presentation. Thanks for sharing.

  • @billbailey5689
    @billbailey5689 Před 2 lety +6

    Great video! In my younger years, I would have been spared many horrible sinus headaches following your advice. Also keep in mind a lot of times you're cutting pressure treated wood, so you're also filtering out metals like copper out of the particulate matter. I was just thinking I needed a new shop vac. I'll try the Rigid.

  • @tomthumb5445
    @tomthumb5445 Před 2 lety +9

    I have been using an old pillow case for years, works even with drywall dust.

    • @angellas.1314
      @angellas.1314 Před 2 lety

      So you use the pillow case instead of a bag? Or instead of the filter?

    • @tomthumb5445
      @tomthumb5445 Před 2 lety +1

      @@angellas.1314 Instead of the filter. I use large elastic band to hold in place

    • @danielwilliams3332
      @danielwilliams3332 Před 2 lety

      This will not filter out fine particles. You can't see them.

    • @tomthumb5445
      @tomthumb5445 Před 2 lety +1

      @@danielwilliams3332 You are correct Daniel, but I do not need to worry about fine particles, it is good enough for what I do.

  • @willhunt7355
    @willhunt7355 Před rokem

    Thank you! Didn't know that ridgid had a HEPA kit As an asthmatic I'm a big believer in HEPA filtration!!

  • @sagewilson1056
    @sagewilson1056 Před rokem

    Excellent content sir. Extremely informative explanation of the science behind the danger of microparticulate inhalants. Thanks!