POWER Brakes (how hard can it be?) Pro-Touring V8 Powered Triumph Build - LS Powered GT6R - Ep35
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Well it's been too long, but during our break, we've been working on... the brakes! So let's see what that looks like.
It's been an answered question for a while now, but due to the size of our Crown Victoria and C4 Corvette brake calipers, we've chosen to add power assistance in an effort to hit our long term goals. That being, a balanced car, where the throttle, steering, clutch and (yes) brakes, all feel appropriately weighted.
It's hard to say if we'll be exactly where we want to be, but with a hair of adjustability built in, we should be able to get close.
We'll talk more about pedal ratios, cylinder sizes and math next time, but rest assured, it's been one heck of a learning curve for me!
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At this point you're basically a master of hand tools! I've seen worse brackets done on CNC machines, outstanding work
My thoughts exactly!! 👍🏼
No "Send Cut Send" necessary.
You seriously have one of the best channels on CZcams.
That means a lot man, cheers ✌️
@@FanatikBuilds and I agree with him! From Lisboa, Portugal, EU. Love the car and the project. I preferred the convertible Spitfire. But, that's me!! 😅😉
No brakes never stopped anybody.
Very true! 😉
"Make the noise..."
Somebody had to say it, glad it was you Dan! 😄
Glad it wasn't just me.
I was thinking the same thing when I heard the level beep.
.... just didn't write it down here .... still shouted it though😁
Michael also added lightness. I just need a CAD template, and I've got a full house.
I have followed this build from the beginning and I must say that this man and his father have engineered and fabricated this car in a way that would make most professional builders envious. I eagerly await the day when the engine starts and they drive it from the garage.
Thanks for the continued support man! We look forward to that day! 🙏👍
Still the prettiest car build on the internet ✌️🇬🇧
Superb work Michael! You continue to be an inspiration to me, as well as a reminder not to moan or use the fact that I don't have the 'right' tool as an excuse for not getting stuff done!
Cheers David, really appreciate it! 😊It's fun adding some new tools to the arsenal now and then though!
G'day from West Australia😉
Adapt, Improvise, and overcome.
Michael I believe you have definately shown my above 43yr trade motto.
Have used a power cord style drill for a mini lathe multiple time.
Unfortunately every time I have made a jig to hold a drill true for lathe work I end up having to replace the drill.
Yeeeep they die😂
Lets make another jig coz now the drill is no longer available😊
Or as happened early on in my career someone liked my jig more than I did, and modified it to have legs and walk.😏
Looks like from what I could see a decent ratio exists for direction change at back of booster. Nice job thumbs up👌👍👍
Build quality doesn't improve with the machinery or tooling - the latter just vastly shortens the build time per bracket, gusset, angle or holder as soon as You know what You're doing .... You still gotta know exactly how to measure, construct and solve problems underway - an art mastered best under "hand-tool-conditions".
You are a great designer and fabricator. Interesting to watch you work. Your results are always first class.
Appreciate it Scott!
You know it's good when your bracket's bracket gets a bracket.
More brackets!!
Nic must be proud !
Couldn’t help thinking while watching this that anyone can fit up a power brake booster in a full size vehicle. The real trick is fitting one up on a Mattel matchbox car!!!
Once again, great work!!!
Haha, you go it Brad! 😂✌️ Cheers!
Great to see your ‘out of the box’ thinking to overcome the packaging challenge on the GT6 build !
Holy cow dude. The attention to detail and engineering is incredible.
Cheers Andrew, a little stubbornness can conquer mountains! 😅😉
Hey Michael, so nice to see you back again! You continue to live up to your past performance as a designer and fabricator extraordinaire! This 90 degree pedal box is so impressive! Looking forward to your post on the math involved in designing your pedals with pedal throw. Everything you've accomplished is gorgeous, and I'm betting the end result will be just amazing. Bravo! Bravissimo!
Really appreciate it Tom, definitely hope you'll enjoy what's next! All the best to ya ✌️
That 90° pedal box actually reminds me of the pushrod suspension on some high end sports cars.
Fantastic work mate. Those sort of projects keep you scratching your head for a while, but when you are done it is the most satisfying. I also hope for your sake you did get yourself a lathe. I underestimated how much I would use it before I got one.
Thanks Jeff, really pleasantly surprised by how well it's turned out, and I look forward to having the opportunity to use it someday! 😅 Yeah, I may have gone ahead and picked something up ... don't have the space for one like yours, but a small lathe is better than none! All the best man!
Another tantalising, informative and just downright entertaining video from our Canuck friends. Your problem solving abilities know no bounds my friends!
Cheers Andrew, it's amazing what a little stubbornness can do! 😅😉
Time to hit the brakes!! Special thanks to our awesome Patreons for your continued support! www.patreon.com/FanatikBuilds
Fanatik, you are really starting to get the welding done. Your problem solving was always skewed, but in a good way- and it does get to a solution. You seldom to the one step forward, two or three back. I think I saw some familiar guiding hands- say Hi to Dad for me! I'm seriously starting to hear a rumbly sort of vrooming noise in the distance, and I don't think it's Binky.
Dad's doing well, thanks! Your words are very encouraging Fred, thanks for the support and I certainly hope you're right about the vroom vroom noises! All the best in 2024 to ya! 🙏✌️ -Michael
Richard Grieco called... he wants his theme song back :-) Seriously, nice work and good to see you back.
"Make the noise............." 😀
Fascinating! First class engineering.
It really makes my day when I see a new one of your videos come up. Your skill with only the basic of hand tools is amazing, and I admire your ingenuity.
You make do with the tools (and room) you've got! 😅✌️ Cheers man!
Now I have to add transverse Dodge van brake booster assembly to my mechanical bucket list.
Who knew eh! 😅
Awesome lathe! Haha. How did I miss this yesterday! Love the videos!
your weld are greatly improved from when you first started.
I'm glad! It would be a bit embarrassing if they hadn't! 😅✌️
Missed this, always entertaining.
Alright, another Fanatik Builds video! You, sir, are a master fabricator as far as I am concerned. I love watching how you solve the various engineering issues you run into as you build your incredible GT6 almost from scratch! Kudos!
Edit: Great use of a bell-crank in the braking system.
Really appreciate the encouragement and support man, thank you! 👊✌️
Amazing engineering! Very satisfying to watch! I’ve thoroughly enjoyed every episode of this build!
Thank you Vince - appreciate it! 🙏
Even a small lathe will be a huge help in this project, looking forward to seeing that in action.
Here's hoping! Thanks man! 🤞✌️
Amazing Work! I own a Mk3 in Germany and realy admire every aspect of your work and also your way of filming!
It feels like im a part of the hole process just by watching your videos!
Thank you for this peace of Art!
Greetings JK
Thanks JK, means a lot and I'm glad you're enjoying what we're up to 😊🙏🇨🇦
Welcome back,I have missed your ingenuity, you are inspirational in making things from nothing.
Happy to see progress once again on your GT6.
THE BEST CHANNEL ON YT FINALLY POSTS LETS GOOOOOOOO
It will be a bitter sweet day when this project is done. I’ve enjoyed the journey and seeing the process by which problems are solved.
No good project car is ever done, so don't worry! There's a lot to come still! 😉✌️
@@FanatikBuilds ah yes! I can sleep at night now
Late to this one but I must say outstanding work on pedal box looks great...💯🙂👍🙏
Cheers buddy, hope all's well your end these days! ✌️
Hi! Harry here from Toronto Canada. I have SO ENJOYED this build! Your work is terrific, and demonstrates that limited shop resources mean nothing if you're determined to do quality work. Innovation at its best! Thank you.
Cheers Harry, really appreciate it! 🇨🇦✌️
Masterfully executed: the work, the video, the leaving me waiting for more (hopefully not as long).
Thanks man, hopefully a much shorter wait for Ep36! 🙏✌️
Consider acquiring a small bench top metal turning lathe for those future modifications making shafts and bushings !
Man the car is looking great.
Fantastic job. A really enjoyable update on the project 👌
Cheers Luke, appreciate it ✌️
Outstanding!!
Thanks man, happy with how it’s turning out! 😊 Hope you’re doing well!
Pure joy to see this work .
You have one hell of a portfolio for the car crafting world.
When it's done you need to take it ot SEMA, and show it off.
Thanks man, would love to take it to SEMA someday! Bit of a drive though (~2100 miles) 😬
Another masterpiece! The quality of everything you build is just amazing.
Great to see a new video up Michael. I love this project and all of your amazing skill in making things fit. Also fun to see your Dad in a few clips helping you out. Can't wait till the next one. Thank you.
Cheers! Hopefully a shorter wait for Ep36! ✌️
Fabrication like this is exactly why I am so excited when a new episode comes out! Great Job, your welds are definitely coming along, those corner welds were mint 👌
Cheers man! 🙏✌️
With what you have to work with you do amazing work. Can’t wait to hear it run.
Outstanding work and design 👍🏻
Keep up the good work! Great use of the available space!
Thanks man, we'll try to!
Nice work Michael you and your dad are an inspiration. You must have the patience of a saint to hit those snags and get past them. Well done and I can't wait for the next installment.
I often get patience and stubbornness confused! 😉✌️
Fanatic workmanship! Thanks for the video!
Love the build, keep it up!!!
Hope to see you soon looking good
Wow i cannot beleve you have had your spitfire for 7 years hope to see more soon 😎
Actually Keith, it’ll be 10 years this June! 😬😅 I love building, but it will be fun to drive it someday! Cheers, hopefully not too much longer of a wait for Ep36 🤞
Great to see you guys back.👍
The build just keeps getting better and better. Fantastic! 👌
The standard of fab work that you pull off with fairly basic tools is exceptional. Your dad has taught you very well.
Great job, I like how you always give your parts a decent finish...
Try to! Thanks Toni, hope you're well ✌️
Thank you for this new episode!
Just a bit o bracketry - Awesome work man.
Woooh! An unexpected lift to my Friday
Fantastic to see more progress.
Happy 2024 Fanatiks! Great to see you back 👍
Cheers Adam, happy new year to you as well!
I'm so glad to see another installment uploaded. I was beginning to worry again... hahahaha. I still feel like you should have about a million subscribers for the first rate content/quality of these videos. Genius solutions!! (... and you bring me hope... because if Chevy, Chrysler, Ford, Subaru, Toyota, and Honda can ALL work together under the shell of your masterpiece; then maybe the diverse sides in our political arena can sort of do the same... yeah... stop laughing at me.) Thanks for sharing this project with us.
Haha, sorry to make you worry Tyler! Some larger numbers would be very helpful and nice to see ... especially as I have no idea what else to do on that front, but I appreciate you commenting and helping out as many others do! I also like the idea of the world you picture, sign me up!! 😉 Cheers man 🥳✌️
Great job. This is one of those things that involves lots of work that very few ever notice or appreciate.
I kind of want a transparent firewall so you can still see it! Unfortunately it'll all be hidden away though, but we know it's there 😉👍
Man i been wondering where you went been waiting to see your next upload!! Thank you!!!
The part that transfers the motion 90 degrees is called a bell crank. These are frequently used on clutch actuators on semi trucks. They’re about the same size in case you had any concerns about durability
Excellent fabrication work! I really like mini lathe 2.0...but I see mini or not so mini lathe 3.0 has arrived. Just a couple of thoughts. The smaller bolts in your 90 degree linkage....I hope they are at least 5/16" bolts...also, you may have done so already, but I would replace those with AN series bolts for a bit of extra strength at that critical juncture. Your use of a 90 degree linkage was very well thought out. In the MGB GT V8 I raced, we used tilton pedal box with back mounted master cylinders (and no booster), but we put the remote reservoirs right about where your HVAC unit mounts...so I see why you could not use that setup.
Appreciate it Jim! From memory, I believe those are 5/16" or 3/8" (grade 8) bolts so we should be good to go 👍 ... next episode we'll be adding a substantial amount of structure to the pedals and linkages as I have no desire to under-build the brakes! I originally was thinking about a setup like you mention, but as this is just meant to be a cruiser, and we really want a balanced feel (where the steering, throttle and brakes all have a similar weight to them) the booster just made sense. At least, that's what I believe from my math! We also have the ability to swap to a smaller booster later if we need, so thankfully there's still time to fine tune it all! Cheers my friend.
Glad that you have the strong hardware aspect covered! As you say, you can always do something else with the booster if necessary......or even delete it for a sideways master cylinder.@@FanatikBuilds
My favourite build ❤ my suggestion regarding the workmate,when drilling holes, please clamp the metal down instead of holding with your hands😮 I did a similar design on a couple of builds using a bell crank for the brakes..brilliant work young man 👍
I do "generally" ... the darn camera keeps squealing on me when I don't though! 😅✌️ Thanks Steve, appreciate it!
Hey guys, I know its late but happy new year. Oh boy, a new Fanatik Builds upload. Like Binky, the GT6 is a small package which brings many complications with the lack of real estate for all things required and I just love watching how these problems are solved. 👍
Happy New Year to you too Steve! Hope all's well your end. 🥳
Always good to see your videos. As a former Spitfire owner, I wish I had the time and abilities to do modifications back in the day. Keep up the good work.
Thanks man, will try to!
Beautiful work as always! Great video. Keep up the good work!
Always an inspitation. Thanks
Great to have you back.
I just finished re-watching the series so far. It is definitely inspiring snd entertaining. I'm attempting a similar project that isn't quite as incolved. I have a 1960 Hillman Husky. I'm going to put a 2.3 Ford engine with a 5 speed. Rack and pinion front end, with some sort of 4 link rear. Building a small econo car that'll burn a tire. And hold a curve. But still slower than most anything else. Something I can drive and enjoy. With eventual plans to put a tiny turbo for comedic value. The goal of the car is to retain the original look. Tires and all. But run highway speeds and be cheap/easy to service and enjoy.
Sounds great, enjoy your project Kory!
The master cylinder bracket is absolutely beautiful. My workmate is in a similar condition from over use. You're at the stage where you look at your early fabrication and welding and want to redo it.
Seriously! It's not necessary to redo it, but that doesn't stop me from wanting to! Haha, the workmate owes us nothing ... I would love it if it was a bit taller though as my back pays the price! Cheers sir 👍
superb .! see you guys next year again !
As always nothing short of brilliant!
Fantastic! The amount of work you have done on this car is unreal. You should be able to get a job in a fabrication shop or engineering for a big auto manufacturer after all this amazing work you are doing!! I can't wait to see this amazing car finished!
Cheers man! ✌️🙏
Determination solves all problems - 2024 is going to be awesome. 👍👍
Well done. Nice to see you using the tools that you have to get the job done. I always find a way to make it work, but when i bought a second hand lathe, a lot of jobs became a lot easier and quicker. Keep up the good work. Hope this project is never done. Great stuff to watch ;)
"A true project car is never done!" ... or so I'm told! Would be nice to drive it someday though ... 😂 Cheers man, appreciate the encouragement!
It's awesome to see the progress!!
STELLAR absolutely STELLAR!
Seamless fabrication as per usual, Mike!! I'm lucky enough to have room for twin remote servos behind the glove box! This has been well worth the wait, buddy 😁 Cheers. Leigh.
Nice one! Oh to have a bit more space! 😅😉 Cheers Leigh, Happy New Year!
@@FanatikBuilds Now to find space for a front adjustable blade type sway bar 🤪
Fantastic engineering skills every episode i watch i am blown away with your skills amazing
Another great episode! It was only the other day I was wondering when the next update would be! It's amazing how good your welding is now!
Thanks man, I appreciate that!
Glad to see some progress!!
Very useful and instructional video. I am in the middle of doing something very similar and this comes as a useful encouragement that I am not attempting to bite off more than I can chew ;-).
Awesome, good luck with your project! 🙏
Another great job bud sorted out 😁👍 i hope you and your dad are doing ok 🤘🤘🇹🇭🇹🇭
Thanks Karl, we've had our share of colds/flus recently but we're doing pretty well at the moment! Hope all's well on your end too! 🙏✌️
Holy Cow . . .
You're back!
I Luv it
Always look forward to these updates
your setup is fantactic, the way to occupy a non currently available space.
just give provision to fiddle with your pedal ratio as this brake booster seems to be very powerful for the size of that car and appling brakes will be trickly and locking wheels is very likely to happen if the pavement conditions are less than ideal.
The pedal ratio is going to be fixed from what I've calculated (well, I could always make a new pedal if need be) ... but by making room for this large dual-diaphragm 8" booster, we have the option to also step down to a smaller booster (or go without) very easily. We'd never be able to do the opposite if we hadn't made room now though! The fine tuning will happen when we can, at long last, drive the car 😊 Cheers! ✌️
Hey nice to know you're still going.
1. You can over brake a car to the point it becomes undrivable, however as I'm guessing you're not going to have the final weight yet it's not as simple to do the calcs. Hopefully you can build in some adjustment in the pedal linkage to adjust the "feel" on the brakes.
2. The proximity of the EPS motor to the master cylinder makes me nervous, under "spirited" driving and parking the EPS motor can get quite hot (some column drive units will pull 100-150A), so depending on tune and usage you may cook your brake fluid.
I hope none of these are the case and I'm just being paranoid.
Good to see you back and look forward to the next one!
Andy
Cheers Andrew, appreciate the thoughts! ✌️ By making room for the large booster/master we've got now, we can always step down to something smaller... it would not have been possible to do the opposite! I've done a lot of math, including calculations with the estimated final weight, and we should be close, but we'll know more when we can finally drive the car! Even Binky had to redo the clutch pedal so I'm not going to feel too embarrassed if things here need to change! Not concerned in the least about the EPS boiling fluid thankfully, these are normally paired with a 60A fuse and the motor would likely melt before it cooks anything else! It may get warm, but our legs will tell us that 😅✌️ Cheers!
Excellent work, as usual.
Welcome back Michael .I used that same drivetrain in my s10.the results were great till trans shattered all the way thru the rear axle. Dont lose traction in the wet gentlemen.nice production on your ride.
The S10 is likely a bit heavier, but good to know still, thanks! I'm not concerned about the dana36 in our car, but the T5 and clutch are definitely weak links. Time will tell, but at least there's good options to upgrade if need be! 👍✌️
Another amazing video and incredible work and progress, truly awe inspiring
Yes! Improvised tools FTW!
Needs must eh Brian! 😅
Yes! New video. Amazing job at solving another fitment problem/re-engineering the vehicle. It's incredible how much you've improved the car over factory.
I've likley said this before, but that car is going to be so much fun, and looks fantastic.
I'm just a little jealous.
Really appreciate it man, it's easy to improve upon when the factory sets such a low baseline! 😅✌️
I’m certain your fabrication skills were formidable prior to this project, however post project will see you leveling up considerably!
Great to see a new episode!
Cheers Matt, hope you're keeping well!
Excellent workmanship. Think I saw a similar layout for the brake booster on a Ferrari 308! Great minds...
That's awesome, didn't know that! 👌😅
Awesome, as always.
Hey thanks Mike! Appreciate it man 😊✌️