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  • Skip Bayless, Richard Sherman and Keyshawn Johnson discuss Kevin Durant. Durant questioned why he isnt in the debate for the greatest basketball player of all-time amongst the likes of LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and others. Skip, Richard and Keyshawn decide if Durant should be in the GOAT debate.
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  • @UndisputedOnFS1
    @UndisputedOnFS1  Před 3 měsíci +6

    Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT

    • @futuretrunks4669
      @futuretrunks4669 Před 3 měsíci

      Kd and kawhi gave Leflop his finals losses😂

    • @quintinnunn1392
      @quintinnunn1392 Před 3 měsíci

      Lebron is the GLOAT
      Greatest looser of all time.

    • @charlesbuckley5615
      @charlesbuckley5615 Před 3 měsíci

      How was KD the best when Steph was getting double teamed?

    • @futuretrunks4669
      @futuretrunks4669 Před 3 měsíci

      @@charlesbuckley5615 all superstars get doubled. Shut up

  • @johndo6175
    @johndo6175 Před 3 měsíci +140

    also Skip analyzes way too much from a place of bias. Everything is centered around diminishing Lebron to Prop up Jordan indirectly. it's too obvious and ridiculous

    • @raymondsims7042
      @raymondsims7042 Před 3 měsíci

      Skip is one of the stupidest people to ever walk this earth

    • @BryantBrothers-gm1qx
      @BryantBrothers-gm1qx Před 3 měsíci +3

      Unfortunately that's his deal and in this day and age for sports talk hosts?that's what works,,smh

    • @BobSmith-said
      @BobSmith-said Před 3 měsíci +5

      U don’t have to prop up Mike mike legacy set in stone lebron is the only player that try convince fans that he has had a more difficult road than anybody when in fact he hasn’t the bubble yr was a blessing to a talented yet injury prone older team by giving them an offseason in the middle of the year refs helped in Miami and kyrie balled tf out

    • @johndo6175
      @johndo6175 Před 3 měsíci +3

      the Jordan bulls were blessed with both rule changes and "soft" refs who as magic johnson would say "don't breathe on michael or it's a foul."
      the 90s were a diluted league @@BobSmith-said

    • @jeremybellow9211
      @jeremybellow9211 Před 3 měsíci +1

      First thing my guy you're wrong . Because all of you bron fans do everything possible to try to make your case for bron to be in the goat debate . When there was never a debate in the first place. LeBron is a great player but it was never a time in the NBA when he was the best player in the league. I'm sorry to tell you . Jordan's bulls were the team to beat . During the Brons era the golden state was the dynasty. Only argument that Brons fans have is bron has been playing for such a long time. And still barely have 4 rings . Jordan played for way less time and got way more rings and awards and accolades. So that's why Kevin Durant asked about it. Durant is a way better NBA player than Bron.

  • @farazismail984
    @farazismail984 Před 3 měsíci +78

    Steph has won 2 without him and he has won ZERO without Steph. That's why he is not in the conversation period. Steph's 4th title vs the Celtics destroyed KD's GOAT case.

  • @myjourney5753
    @myjourney5753 Před 3 měsíci +156

    KD is a great player. But he's not in the conversation for GOAT.

    • @petermontagna7702
      @petermontagna7702 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Your right it’s not a conversation he is the goat

    • @Schmitty_12
      @Schmitty_12 Před 3 měsíci +19

      @@petermontagna7702you don’t know ball 😭

    • @TheDwight12
      @TheDwight12 Před 3 měsíci +2

      He is in conversation for the GOAT as an individual player if you exclude accolades. Not a GOAT overall which includes career.

    • @user-qw8dk2wc7k
      @user-qw8dk2wc7k Před 3 měsíci +3

      He is the goat

    • @MadOrNahh
      @MadOrNahh Před 3 měsíci +6

      A goat doesn’t join a team he lost too. What are we talking about?? KD is not a goat. What he win before and after golden state??? I’ll wait ….. 🦗

  • @padarousou
    @padarousou Před 3 měsíci +29

    When KD joined the warriors it basically cemented his place outside of the goat debate. When you have to join forces with the top franchise in the league as a top 3 player you're basically guaranteeing wins instead of actually earning them. Same would've went for LeBron if he joined the warriors, or Jordan if he joined the Celtics or Lakers, but they didnt and they still have more rings than KD.

  • @flexermc4333
    @flexermc4333 Před 3 měsíci +356

    You joined the best team ever to win your rings bro. Even Kawhi has a much better legacy then you do.

    • @kakashilast4612
      @kakashilast4612 Před 3 měsíci +27

      Who did kawhi play with to get his first rings ?

    • @kakashilast4612
      @kakashilast4612 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Arguably the best PF of all time

    • @Shaunworld725
      @Shaunworld725 Před 3 měsíci +14

      ​@@kakashilast4612what point are u trying to make????

    • @flexermc4333
      @flexermc4333 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@kakashilast4612 when he was hella old

    • @superwatler
      @superwatler Před 3 měsíci +13

      @@kakashilast4612Kawhi joined the 1 seed in Toronto to put them over the top

  • @dukewilliams1483
    @dukewilliams1483 Před 3 měsíci +61

    I see why Kevin did what he did but im not impressed with him winning with a team that only lost 9 games the previous season

    • @jareljones3911
      @jareljones3911 Před 3 měsíci

      How many did they lose in the postseason and they went 73-9 because Steph has the best shooting season of all time he hasn’t been on that level after that MCL sprain

    • @Banks23
      @Banks23 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Big fax and they lost the final in game 7. So technically they needed KD to help them win an extra game in the finals. Idk how they let skip off the hook with that bs

    • @xtrident60
      @xtrident60 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Banks23 Not only that, but they arguably had that series won anyway being up 3 - 1. Skip talks out both sides his mouth on this one because he also takes credit away from Lebron over Draymond being suspended and that's why they lost. Then the next sentence he's preaching how Golden State HAD TO HAVE Durant to beat Lebron.
      No Skip, it doesn't work both ways. And then we all got to see one of, if not the most loaded team ever in the NBA..?? So we're all supposed to give Durant mad props for winning championships on the best team, again, arguably ever? Naw, sorry, not every championship is created equally.
      Durant is going to go down as one of the all time greats, but he really needs to carry a f'n team himself to a championship.

  • @gridirongod4207
    @gridirongod4207 Před 3 měsíci +91

    *Durant 1 MVP, 2 FMVPs*
    “Nowhere near GOAT convo”
    *Kobe 1 MVP, 2 FMVPs*
    “Top 2 all time minimum”
    *LeBron 4 MVPs, 4 FMVPs*
    “Uhhhh Kobe’s better”

    • @showagreg4030
      @showagreg4030 Před 3 měsíci +49

      Kobe nowhere near GOAT CONVO EITHER .

    • @SuburbanDude.
      @SuburbanDude. Před 3 měsíci +23

      Sounds good without context. This is why some people shouldn’t talk sports. 🤦‍♂️

    • @Pharez85
      @Pharez85 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Lolz... leave Kobe outta this. We all know sup but...

    • @doneyaruns3061
      @doneyaruns3061 Před 3 měsíci +14

      @@SuburbanDude.what context?? Whatever excuse y’all give kobe for only having 1 mvp and 2 finals fmvp doesn’t count when it’s applied to lebron so who cares

    • @Nothereman9999
      @Nothereman9999 Před 3 měsíci +16

      Just ignore the 5 rings like they don't matter.

  • @kangjames2492
    @kangjames2492 Před 3 měsíci +67

    Durant joined a ready made champion, he gets no props for that. If not for Durant going to golden state Lebron would probably have seven rings. Not to mention that year Love and Kyrie got hurt.

    • @Neuraesthetic
      @Neuraesthetic Před 3 měsíci +5

      I hated the gsw move but that’s not even why he not in the convo. That’s the last time he was in the finals. That’s the last time he was an absolute unit on the floor. He’s been to too many teams with nothing to show for it

    • @TheDwight12
      @TheDwight12 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Durant is in a conversation for a GOAT individual player in a vacuum. Where you just see how good of a player someone is without counting any accolades,winning ,meltdowns... just their skills as a basketball player. To prove that, just take a look at him with Warriors. Everyone without question knew Durant was the best Warriors player. Everyone knew Durant was better than Curry. Thats why stories in those finals were Lebron vs Durant and Curry vs Irving and thats why he won those finals MVPs. But most of us agree Curry ranks higher all time than Durant thats because he is a better winner and has a better career. But in the overall GOAT where careers are almost just as important as skills Durant isnt even in top 10.

    • @vintagemonte
      @vintagemonte Před 3 měsíci

      Exactly. This is why Lebron fans will never let him live it down 😂

    • @thesplasshh910
      @thesplasshh910 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Kevin Durant Warriors is Best Desicion his Career Great Move By KD To Join Warriors
      And Beat Cavs 4 0 and 4 1😂😂
      Lebron Form Superteam in Miami😂
      and Lebron Surrounded With Allstar😂
      KDurant Nah Nahh
      I Join Goldenstate😂
      4 0 4 1 vs lebron😂

    • @kangjames2492
      @kangjames2492 Před 3 měsíci

      @thesplasshh910 They wouldn't build a talented team around Bron in Cleveland, so he built his own. They weren't champions already, but they became champions. Bron had to face Detroit basically by himself and the Celtics by himself, and the Spurs; All Super Teams. Think about these teams and then see who had the super team.

  • @jorbemesis1157
    @jorbemesis1157 Před 3 měsíci +16

    0:13 "his ability to be a 7-footer"

  • @kingbadfish
    @kingbadfish Před 3 měsíci +11

    Even thinking about putting Kevin Durant in that conversation before you give Tim Duncan his due is just madness.

    • @Messiah_Black
      @Messiah_Black Před 3 měsíci

      That Part

    • @Legendary_god2002
      @Legendary_god2002 Před 3 měsíci

      Duncan would be in the goat conversation more if he won game 6 in miami or game 7 thus he is 6-0 and things will get serious

    • @josephhinojosa4715
      @josephhinojosa4715 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Legendary_god2002I'm a Spurs fan, but it's unlikely they repeat if they won that 2013 series. But I'm certain he's right next to Kobe and that's really enough for me 🙂

    • @Legendary_god2002
      @Legendary_god2002 Před 3 měsíci

      @@josephhinojosa4715 keep in mind the spurs were still an excellent team in 2014 I could have potentially won back to back in 2013 and 2014 knowing how the spurs would constantly build really good teams and beat an excellent thunder team and in 2014 the heat pretty much ran out of gas due to the heavy amount of minutes on their body.

    • @josephhinojosa4715
      @josephhinojosa4715 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Legendary_god2002 That loss in 2013 was the biggest motivator for the 2014 run. They had a laser focus that we don't see often from any team. I agree they had talent and excellent chemistry, but they had an underdog spirit at their core. Otherwise, I don't think they would've beaten Dallas or OKC that year.

  • @rooseveltf3886
    @rooseveltf3886 Před 3 měsíci +28

    A segment like this should have been with Paul pierce and Rachel. Skip missing unc right now 😂😂😂

    • @timocruz510
      @timocruz510 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Skip been missing Unc this show is toast

    • @clemz9013
      @clemz9013 Před 3 měsíci

      Yup, I agree, because KD isn't even better than Steph. He just isn't, and he hasn't had the playoff runs Steph has had. Steph literally has twice as many chips, mvps than KD and has 2 less scoring titles and the same number of FMVPs (yes I include 2015 as a FMVP) Steph is top 10 (pushing top 5) and KD is between 11-15 with competion from Giannis and maybe Joker.
      There's levels to this.

    • @henryviiifake8244
      @henryviiifake8244 Před 3 měsíci

      "Don't do it, SKIUP! 😤" 🥲🥲🥲

  • @Tach2134
    @Tach2134 Před 3 měsíci +15

    KD will never be part of the goat conversation. He basically got a free ride to two rings with the best team in the league. And he never won anything outside of golden state, even when he had kyrie and harden, now beal and booker. and i don't think he will have a easy time this year because all the team's r strong like Celtics, bucks, thunder, nuggets etc

    • @Theedd9991
      @Theedd9991 Před 3 měsíci

      They didn’t win the precious year so that wasn’t the best team in the league, he embarrassed the “best team in the league”

  • @IncognitoSprax
    @IncognitoSprax Před 3 měsíci +14

    He'll go down as a Hall Of Famer but he will never be in the 🐐 Convo

  • @georgeprchal3924
    @georgeprchal3924 Před 3 měsíci +14

    Ah yes the bravery, the courage to join the Warriors; right up there with The Flu Game, Lou Gehrig's speech, and Brett Favre in Oakland.

  • @thedtownsupaman9370
    @thedtownsupaman9370 Před 3 měsíci +20

    This headline is so stupid I’m not even going to bother watching the episode.

  • @Netsfan24
    @Netsfan24 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I could see KD being at least brought up in GOAT conversations if he can win 2 chips without Steph

  • @shaiquezgray8431
    @shaiquezgray8431 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I wish skip brought up the 3-1 series OKC blew before GS blew one…. Smh🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @dezinetech1000
    @dezinetech1000 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Keyshawn is 💯 correct and KD and goat talk should never be in the same sentence

  • @thekaorucat
    @thekaorucat Před 3 měsíci +3

    Skip discrediting Steph and Klay because they fell to LeBron last year is hilarious

  • @johnsmith_1942
    @johnsmith_1942 Před 3 měsíci +4

    KD absolutely doesn't belong in GOAT discussion.
    If KD does belong in discussion, then Hakeem should be in as well. He was the most skilled center.

  • @CrisJunkie
    @CrisJunkie Před 3 měsíci +4

    When we talk about GOAT, we put everything on the table: championships, accolades (MVPs, all-star appearances, all-NBA, all-NBA defensive, impact, individual star power, etc.) 1 MVP and 2 championships with an already championship caliber team don't cut it. Even Kobe, with his 1 MVP, 2 FMVPs, and 5 championships doesn't have as strong case, coz Jordan has 5 MVPs and 6 championships, and Kareen has 6 MVPs + 6 championships. If you're not in the top 2 or even 3, you have little to no case. You just easily get eliminated from the discussion. I love me some KD. Just being objective.

  • @willemdee
    @willemdee Před 3 měsíci +6

    If depend on the list criteria.
    I think if it’s mainly skill set, he should be considered for sure. But accolades no because there are more accomplished/decorated superstars.

    • @TheDwight12
      @TheDwight12 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I agree. I think Durant is in a conversation for a GOAT individual player in a vacuum. Where you just see how good of a player someone is without counting any accolades,winning ,meltdowns... just their skills as a basketball player. To prove that, just take a look at him with the Warriors. Everyone without question knew Durant was the best Warriors player. Everyone knew Durant was better than Curry. Thats why stories in those finals were Lebron vs Durant and Curry vs Irving and thats why he won those finals MVPs. But most people agree Curry ranks higher all time than Durant ,thats because he is a better winner and has a better career. But in the overall GOAT where careers are almost just as important as skills Durant isnt even in top 10.

    • @willemdee
      @willemdee Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@TheDwight12 I agree for sure. He needs probably 2 rings and another MVP to raise his ranking when it comes to accolades but if it’s just skill set he’s close to the top easily imo.

  • @nfdstink4096
    @nfdstink4096 Před 3 měsíci +2

    If we talking about skills. I have no problem with putting KD in the goat conversations. But if we are going off skills you need to include Carmelo Anthony, Russell Westbrook and Allen Iverson and James Harden. But we can’t put them in the discussion apparently because they didn’t join a 73-9 team and got a ring

  • @johnnyeckford1374
    @johnnyeckford1374 Před 3 měsíci +7

    *long duo sigh*
    Key: Take us to commercial break, Skip. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @johnnyeckford1374
      @johnnyeckford1374 Před 3 měsíci

      @@UndisputedOnFSI no problem. Any time. I love Undisputed.

  • @zmankicks7688
    @zmankicks7688 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I respect Kd, but short version of Richard’s explanation. Kd has never won a championship on a team that wasn’t already orchestrated and won 73 games. It’s really simple. Okc had legit teams and they couldn’t win. Brooklyn still had a big 3, phoenix we’ll see how it goes for the next couple years. Until he leads a team on his own with no other teammates that’s either top 2-3 in the league, he can’t even be in the discussion for goat

  • @nobleskywalker4639
    @nobleskywalker4639 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Absolutely not!!! Everyone in my Mt Rushmore all time NBA meets this criteria:
    1) 4+ NBA champion
    2) 3+NBA Finals MVP
    3)3+ Regular Season MVP
    4) 9+ All NBA first team
    5) Not be on a team where the last time they won( which was only 2 years and he was still there and useful) they were so loaded they had to move their last NBA Finals MVP to the bench.
    And some of these guys have more accolades like multiple All NBA Defensive first teams
    1) MJ
    2) Lebron James
    3) Kareem Abdul
    4) Magic Johnson
    You wanna be in the GOAT convo KD have that and win a chip outside GS.

  • @alibaba_8_8
    @alibaba_8_8 Před 3 měsíci +3

    What are we talking about 🤦

  • @Ronaldo20070
    @Ronaldo20070 Před 3 měsíci +5

    This is crazy

  • @therealbeckboy5325
    @therealbeckboy5325 Před 3 měsíci

    Just gotta laugh before I even watch this 😂

  • @nine3seven
    @nine3seven Před 3 měsíci +1

    Shoutout to Undisputed for putting KOBE in the title…
    Meanwhile First Take was naming Tim Duncan to be in that convo and didn’t even bring up Kobe’s name ❗️

    • @Monchi-qc4ep
      @Monchi-qc4ep Před 3 měsíci

      Timmy have a better goat argument than Kobe

  • @Dr.Sins.
    @Dr.Sins. Před 3 měsíci +3

    Jordan didn’t go and join the Pistons/Celtics

  • @juanpaolomejia1699
    @juanpaolomejia1699 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Try to win a ring outside GSW first then we can talk about GOAT

  • @charles4830
    @charles4830 Před 3 měsíci +2

    KD got asked a question. He answered with a sentence. Now can everyone just give KD and the Suns props, you guys have said all nonsense to discredit the team this year.

  • @f1k199
    @f1k199 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Good point about the hampton 5, why is kd weak for the move and not the warriors.

    • @bjrowland25
      @bjrowland25 Před 3 měsíci

      Just like Lebron weak for joining Dwade and Chris Bosh

  • @lawantemontgomery830
    @lawantemontgomery830 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hey Skip what happened to KD after he left GS? Correct me if I’m mistaken but didn’t they win another title without? What has KD done ever since? On top of that the man only have ONE mvp.

  • @Nate51177
    @Nate51177 Před 3 měsíci

    Hes in the convo for most skilled and talented but when u factor in other things like accolades and intangibles thats what keeps him put of the Goat convo

    • @jaywbell2002
      @jaywbell2002 Před 3 měsíci

      If he has all this skill and talent why does it not translate into championships outside of GSW

  • @KaiLiuvisual
    @KaiLiuvisual Před 3 měsíci

    The narration from Skip makes me laugh😂

  • @3MUnique
    @3MUnique Před 3 měsíci

    Skip Bayless’ takes make it bad 4 people trying 2 do journalism or sports talk while never playing the game.

  • @sxyathlete23
    @sxyathlete23 Před 3 měsíci

    The politics of TV....ALL these "IFs" coming from the same guy who called Skip, IF Bayless.

  • @RobertBalto
    @RobertBalto Před 3 měsíci

    I don't understand what KD's perspective on this is? Usually when people have these GOAT debates, it's about individual and team accomplishments. So, if we accept that as the standard, the people who are typically in that debate have far more individual and team accomplishments as KD...in some cases 4 or 5 times as many. But if he was calling for a nuanced approach to it, I think I could respect that point of view more. Instead, this just seems like he's just complaining about not being included...

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 3 měsíci

    I love how these players tell us they are the goat. When the real goat never says a word.

  • @robert-surcouf
    @robert-surcouf Před 3 měsíci

    He's a top 25-30 and that's it.
    All the top 20 carried their team to the ring at least once and all the top 10 made it at least twice.
    The goat list is even shorter with only 4 guys available (Russell, Jabbar, Jordan and James).

  • @bjrowland25
    @bjrowland25 Před 3 měsíci

    I just realized KD don’t have back to back regular season mvps like Bron, Steph, Giannis, or Jokic. Crazy! And he hasn’t won a ring/fmvp with the team that drafted him.

  • @TheTeamOden
    @TheTeamOden Před 3 měsíci +2

    need Rachel for a topic like this, Key/Sherm got ZERO nba knowledge

  • @thewintersoldier383
    @thewintersoldier383 Před 3 měsíci

    They both need super teams to even compete. There’s no difference between them.

  • @JordanLemarc
    @JordanLemarc Před 3 měsíci

    The way the undisputed views dropped after unc left is insane 😢

  • @ShinNorimaro
    @ShinNorimaro Před 3 měsíci

    KD is in that 2nd level group of greatness. Where the players that would be top-tier if they won a title (Barkley and Ewing level).
    Durant has been too sensitive, too inconsistent, doesn’t seem like a great leader.

  • @Hennyauto
    @Hennyauto Před 3 měsíci

    The take Richard had was on point.

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 3 měsíci

    “Are we talking about championship or just his skill set?”

  • @Aswinishere
    @Aswinishere Před 3 měsíci

    If we criticize his wins with GSW we need to do the same with Lebron going to the Cavs joining Kyrie

  • @Tim_Dunkin
    @Tim_Dunkin Před 3 měsíci

    As far as skill set he is one of the greatest scorers of all time. As a player on a team held to the standards of other superstars he's fallen short. Yes he won w/GSW while players were ignoring him to run to guard Steph doing anything to not let him get the ball 😆. Since GSW what has he done of significance when all eyes were on him in adverse situations or in situations where he's had the advantage? That's a serious question btw.

    • @xtrident60
      @xtrident60 Před 3 měsíci

      The Brooklyn run would have been amazing.... Would have.

  • @davidranfordsmith3076
    @davidranfordsmith3076 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Really Keyshawn... I guess cowboys were happy with 3 instead of 4 , what a thjng to say

  • @NTRURESH
    @NTRURESH Před 3 měsíci +2

    The answer is NO.

  • @eamonkelley3811
    @eamonkelley3811 Před 3 měsíci

    KD is my favorite player but you can't be a goat without any defense accolades. If he gets to top 5 on all time scoring list and wins Phienix its first title. I think he goes from the 13th best player to the 10th best player all time.

  • @CannaKoffing
    @CannaKoffing Před 3 měsíci

    I'd include him if he ever returned to OKC to help them win a chip.

  • @hugolizard
    @hugolizard Před 3 měsíci

    Key is trying to shift the convo from accolades to skillsets. Dude is tall with a handle who can also shoot so he’s the GOAT?
    And how can you get into a GOAT convo without bringing MJ in? GOAT is 1 person. To be the GOAT you need to be compared to and to be recognized as better than other candidates.

  • @slyblu9489
    @slyblu9489 Před 3 měsíci

    Why the same people that say they don’t mind KD going to GS are the wins that keep bringing up “the decision”

  • @nfdstink4096
    @nfdstink4096 Před 3 měsíci

    So let me get this straight. Skip bayless said that Kevin Durant should be in the top 10 goat conversation but Stephan Curry shouldn’t. Even tho he has two rings without KD and broke every three point record you can think of and won mvp Unanimously. I’m just curious of what skip reaction would be if lebron join a 73-9 team

    • @xtrident60
      @xtrident60 Před 3 měsíci

      The same reaction he gave Lebron for joining Miami. We've already seen what Skip has to say about it. But he likes Durant, so it doesn't count for him.

  • @reggie7408
    @reggie7408 Před 3 měsíci

    I don’t see how kd has an argument over Jordan, Lebron, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Kobe, Wilt, Russell, Hakeem, Steph, or Duncan all time. That’s 12 guys

  • @TopGunn827
    @TopGunn827 Před 3 měsíci

    Literally they’re talking about Kevin beating Lebron toe to toe during a game and Kawhi does that every time they play

  • @redcomet0079
    @redcomet0079 Před 3 měsíci

    He’s incredible, but ever since he got injured he was never the same

  • @jareljones3911
    @jareljones3911 Před 3 měsíci

    So what Rich is saying is that KD isn’t in the conversation just because his shoe lace was on the three point line

    • @gmailgmail6234
      @gmailgmail6234 Před 3 měsíci

      Bro that was a 2nd round series how would that put him in goat conversation

  • @anthonyoneal2736
    @anthonyoneal2736 Před 3 měsíci

    I love how skip always says the same thing... they did all that just to stop 1 man!!!!!! And still says KD is better then Bron... when have they ever built a team to stop KD ...

  • @BTAKVE
    @BTAKVE Před 3 měsíci

    I like how Skip always glosses over KD blowing a 3-1 lead to said Warriors and pretends he outplayed LeBron where Bron was triple teamed and KD was single covered

  • @chieftoad7367
    @chieftoad7367 Před 3 měsíci

    O I’m BUGGIN lmao

  • @velocityhawk224
    @velocityhawk224 Před 3 měsíci

    KD going to GSW was gutless. Now you have to give him credit for actually winning the title because you do still have to perform but I just want to point out, Warriors replaced Harrison Barnes with KD. KD did not have to do much to win! Keep in mind Warriors and Cavs had exchanged chips in the two years prior to KD joining them. So for the Warriors to beg KD to join was ring chasing on both fronts. Now let’s dig a-little deeper KD joined the team that literally beat him that same postseason! You have to take points away for that because it shows he did not have the winner in him to do it on his OKC team. He needed to make the degree of difficulty go wayyy down in order to win his rings. Now some people would say Lebron forming the Heat team is the same. Absolutely not lebron joined wade and together they recruited Chris Bosh. The Heat team was not a championship contender until Lebron joined and recruited Bosh. It would be more comparable if Lebron joined the Celtics at the time. KD should not be mentioned among the greatest of all time because greatness is cemented by winning and the fact that he has only won two and the two he did win were the easiest two in NBA history discredits his greatness. He’s not greater than most of his current and former contemporaries. LEBRON KOBE DUNCAN CURRY KAWHI. I’ll give you one of the best offensive weapons to ever touch a basketball but not greatest.

  • @Yellowbear444
    @Yellowbear444 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Absolutely NOT

  • @alwayssquash
    @alwayssquash Před 3 měsíci

    Skip sounds like only KD saved the warriors.. so if Steph and Klay wasn’t there they still won? If KD need to save some team then go to a team with losing records..

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 3 měsíci

    MJ laughing his a** off while looking at the iPad 😂😂😂

  • @Hennyauto
    @Hennyauto Před 3 měsíci

    Bron Joined Miami. He played w a team who already had champions already. D Wade. Ray Allen. Like stop the bias. People hate KD so much bc he was that much of a crazy piece.

  • @ZoneTalksLive
    @ZoneTalksLive Před 3 měsíci

    Tim Duncan is more of a GOAT than K.D because even after David Robinson retired he held the Spurs down and won more titles in San Antonio of all places. I don't see that any different than being in OKC and winning ships.

  • @unrealflow12
    @unrealflow12 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Put lebron Steph klay and draymond against kd, see what happens

  • @danielpagan2794
    @danielpagan2794 Před 3 měsíci +1

    They seriously still trying to raise KD over Lebron since 6 years ago and he hasnt moved the needle any closer since the last time he won in golden state. Also Jordan is the 🐐.

  • @michaelshmaruk7485
    @michaelshmaruk7485 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Stop!! Please stop. This argument is making me dumb

  • @goatjames328
    @goatjames328 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I could’ve won with that warriors team and I’m a swimmer! 😂 💯🤷🏻🫡

  • @ericilsen864
    @ericilsen864 Před 3 měsíci +7

    If you are judging by championships won....then Bill Russell is the ultimate GOAT with 11 championships.

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 Před 3 měsíci

      “Yeah but there were 8 teams, he never averaged 20 and he played unathletic white guys”
      - Jordan fans

    • @Messiah_Black
      @Messiah_Black Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Terror832Jordan fans respect Russell. That’s this era of basketball fans argument. Ya’ll act like Russell wouldn’t be able to compete in this modern day (bush) league…

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Messiah_Black I respect Russell too I just don’t think he’s the GOAT despite his insane ring count.
      He’d still be great today but I don’t think he’d win 11 rings in today’s era or even the 90s.

    • @Messiah_Black
      @Messiah_Black Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Terror832 So you don’t think a prime Bill Russell, with all the added benefits of modern day training & conditioning wouldn’t be at the very least a top 3 all star in this era? You gotta think, Russell came at a time when a 6’10” center wasn’t allowed to dunk the ball, and athletes didn’t strength train their bodies or work on developing their game all year long.

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Messiah_Black top 3? Idk about that. I just see him as a shorter but more athletic Rudy Gobert.
      And Gobert is a great player don’t get it twisted but he’s only exceptional on one end of the court. His offense is basic. Same goes for Russell who is the worst offensive player in the top 15 all time.

  • @boomKnootz88
    @boomKnootz88 Před 3 měsíci

    Naaaaaaah I gotta wait and see what happens in PHX..
    You can’t have what happened in Brooklyn and then not win a ring in PHX and get the GOAT pass..
    He won those rings in GS can’t take that away from him and won FMVP
    BUT like ppl say that culture was already established when he got there..
    When he tried to build his own culture he wasn’t a good enough leader to do that
    So I gotta wait and see what happens

  • @DSGB_Decatur
    @DSGB_Decatur Před 3 měsíci +3

    Let’s be real! Bron 2 rings in Miami was a super team with multiple HOF, the 2016 cavs was a stacked team with multiple hof superstars, then the lakers he had Anthony Davis which is another superstar..

    • @AyooBudd
      @AyooBudd Před 3 měsíci

      Lakers Had Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard, Ramon Rondo, Pretty Much Much The 2011 Eastern All Stars 🤣

  • @BigFno.8
    @BigFno.8 Před 3 měsíci

    KD asked the perfect question. Let me list the things he's never done/been:
    1. Never Led (been the bus driver) a team to the promised land
    2. Never even be the best player in the league
    3. Instead of overcoming adversity to win a ring, he opted for the easiest path. Skip is crazy wrong. He joined a 73 win championship team to win his only rings - come on!!!
    4. No multiple Reg Season MVPs
    ....this shouldn't even be a topic

  • @M.B.1001
    @M.B.1001 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Never, he took an easiest path to win, mentally weak and just lacking balls. If he won in OKC, maybe yes. He is nowhere near Kawhi Leonard, and LeBron and MJ comparisons are pointless.

    • @kakashilast4612
      @kakashilast4612 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You talking abt everything but basketball

    • @petermontagna7702
      @petermontagna7702 Před 3 měsíci

      Everything but basketball man is a better player then anyone who’s played easy choice for goat

  • @nomoney_sniper1885
    @nomoney_sniper1885 Před 3 měsíci

    Chill skip, they formed Megatron to beat LeBron lol. You make it seem like what he did was heroic and the warriors won another one without him

  • @rasal-yn9dr
    @rasal-yn9dr Před 3 měsíci

    GSW is in a tailspin. Can you imagine if KD went back to GSW? No longer could it be a said he was given a ring. Now, he is and would be the reason GSW would be back on top. This is wishful thinking but imagine what it could be like for GSW and KD.

  • @user-lt1fx2he5s
    @user-lt1fx2he5s Před 3 měsíci

    Only Skip would say KD going to a 73-9 team is a “challenge” LOL
    Imagine if Lebron did that 🤣

  • @lightsout6552
    @lightsout6552 Před 3 měsíci

    How could Durant not be great for golden state when Steph and klay can't be left to double team?

  • @VonGOMD
    @VonGOMD Před 3 měsíci +1

    Kevin it’s pretty obvious why you’ll never be in that conversation 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @PBCHARCO
    @PBCHARCO Před 3 měsíci +1

    Kevin Durant Is 1 Of Da Goats 🐐

  • @Zennesto
    @Zennesto Před 3 měsíci

    1. Michael Jordan
    2. Lebron James
    3. Kareem Abdul Jabar
    4. Magic Johnson
    5. Bill Russell
    6. Wilt Chamberlin
    7. Larry Bird
    8. Tim Duncan
    9. Shaquille O’neal
    10. Kobe Bryant

  • @breakupgoogle
    @breakupgoogle Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love KD but bro come on. no. not even close.

  • @notcoolkev3770
    @notcoolkev3770 Před 3 měsíci

    Why put kobe in the title but don’t mention him?!! Trying to get views while hating on kobe.

  • @jhonloydarnado227
    @jhonloydarnado227 Před 3 měsíci

    In order to be in the goat debate, your resume should atleast on par with MJ to be in the conversation. Kd's just dont have enough against Jordan or even to Lebron, he isn't even in the top 5 for me.

  • @mrshanny82
    @mrshanny82 Před 3 měsíci

    Skip irritates the f outta me when he has to drum up the same 1 or 2 bad points to build up kd because he hates LeBron AND steph curry. The fact of the matter is steph already was 1-1 in the finals BEFORE kd got there, and he won another without him. The warriors are the dynasty, and steph has been the guy and the face of the team the entire time. I believe kd was better, but it's because you couldn't key in on him because of the surrounding talent. And the fact that the warriors dynasty existed on LeBron's watch is enough to disqualify him from GOAT status without completely dismissing him as a bum because he's nowhere near that

  • @33corsaire
    @33corsaire Před 3 měsíci

    Even for skills… KD not a good enough defender to be in that convo

  • @melgoat
    @melgoat Před 3 měsíci

    1. Mj
    2. Kobe
    3. Kareem
    4. Tim Duncan
    5. Bill Russell

  • @rickymartinez576
    @rickymartinez576 Před 3 měsíci

    Huh imagine your making a decision having consequences I never would've thought

  • @goatjames328
    @goatjames328 Před 3 měsíci

    LEGOAT didn’t go to a 73 win ALREADY CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM WITH THE GREATEST RECORD OF ALL TIME AND THE GREATEST SHOOTERS OF ALL TIME AND 4 HOFAMERS IN HIS STARTING LINE UP!

  • @itzpsycho4786
    @itzpsycho4786 Před 3 měsíci

    Bring up the same thing everytime he in the media abt how he went to gsw but they asked him to go there but if he win one more yall need to stop talkin abt him goin to gsw cause he won one wit out curry but he needs more respect because yall just bring up the samething up

  • @ps5gaymer
    @ps5gaymer Před 3 měsíci

    KD has a couple finals lose on his resume. And according to Skip that should disqualify KD from being considered the goat. Or does Skip have different opinions for players he likes?

  • @JayJay-gw8zc
    @JayJay-gw8zc Před 3 měsíci

    So skip is Kevin in the goat debate or not

  • @JasonDonnar
    @JasonDonnar Před 3 měsíci

    this show has fallen off so bad since Shannon left, lol - it's unbearable to watch -- and uploading in 720p as your max looks awful, I'll try again in a year, not holding my breath