De La Soul Discuss Native Tongue Tension Playing Out on "Buddy"
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- www.vladtv.com - In this VladTV exclusive, legendary Hip Hop group De La Soul speaks on their relationship with the other Native Tongue members and how the collective came to be.
Trugoy the Dove says the group came together after members of the Jungle Brothers and A Tribe Called Quest from just a hand out session. Their friendship later helped create the hit single, "Buddy" the group's only single. While they grew apart over the years, Dove and Posdnuos agree that all of the Native Tongue members are back on good terms.
The rappers speak on how the organic formation of the the group was easy for fans to appreciate. While the collective's catalog is limited to a few songs and collaborations, the group says time didn't permit them to put more energy into the collective.
The group also speaks on what could've been with the Native Tongues; from tours, merchandise and even a Broadway play. - Zábava
Posdnous is lowkey one of hip hops best lyricist. He ain't one of those "rap fast gibberish to confuse you" types, but he says some real shit that hits you hard.
Ewickify Ewic Agreed 100%
Agreed...
Yip, been saying it for the longest, totally agree...
Ewickify Ewic Preach!!!!! I've been saying that for years.
+tochiRTA Go listen to/watch the 'The Stakes Is High' single/video. Pos totally dropped jewelz in that song.
Rest in Power, Trugoy! 😢💙
A Native Tongues Album would've been incredible.
+FrankWonderBeantown I agree...
+Kwaku “RAP NINJA” 11 I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT A NATIVE TONGUES VOLUME SERIES WOULD'VE BEEN ONE TO CHERISH.....FOREVERRRRR CREATIVITY, FOREVERRRRR NATIVE TONGUES.....
If only!
Would've been similar to the depth and diversity of Wu Tang.
Tbh a Native Tongue album would be considered a top album of all time in my opinion
Thank-you for this post. De La is very much part of my childhood. Sitting over here in absolute disbelief right now. Rest easy Dave 😔💔
De La Soul. One of Hip-Hop's best groups. Ever.
Dam straight!!!!
Word!!!
No lies… all facts. And one of the greatest contributors to the Hip hop culture.
Facts, one of the greatest rap groups of all time and definitely one of the best live acts I've ever seen.
Facts
That whole era of Afrocentric rap with obscure samples and just a fun whimsical attitude on the tracks has to be my favorite era of rap. I’ll even put Kwame, Red Head Kingpin, Divine Styler, Poor Righteous Teachers and 3rd Bass in that era. It was a fun period of rap.
KMD’s Zev Love X aka MF DOOM too RIP
"Buddy"... probably one of the best posse cuts ever ?
Debatable- The Symphony is still classic
"Buddy" is top 5 posse cuts imho
@Carl Rice you nailed it
It's absolutely my favorite
Rest In Paradise Plug 2...you made a HUGE impact on the culture, in our lives, and your legacy will continue forever fam! Peace.
I miss groups like De La Soul, Tribe, and Arrested development, not a lot group out there like them these days.
The beast coast collective is probably the closest thing to that
I hardly listen to hip hop now a days I will check them out
HustleWrestlingEFed no doubt💯
That you know of. Plus, De La Soul are still together.
You introduced me to Arrested Development through this and I cannot thank you enough. 🙏🏽
I really wish the Native Tongue collective released an album together. That would of been legendary. Tribe,DeLa,Jungle,Monie,Latifah,Chi,Black Sheep.....amazing!
And Universal Zulu Nation included in that mix, which was the precursor to Native Tongues.
@@Ty-wy9he Zulu nation bad dope
I would pay $30 for a Native Tongue album and $125 for a concert.
Gladly.
I wonder why De La never really reach the popularity that Tribe had? But De La had the longevity
I think De La were bigger, speaking as a UK hip hop head, they had bonafide pop chart hits over here, and in Europe but Tribe only had Can I Kick It? I think Tribe were more a U.S. phenom at the time, de la got a bigger and, IMO, a better back catalogue of music...not taking away from Tribe btw...
Interesting,over here in the US,I think we just felt Tribe more for some reason....De La's lyrics were more complexed, Tribe's were more easy to follow and relatable, and the music was real relaxing..Even De La was on a "QTip best of album" were they payed respect to Tribe by redoing some of their work in De La version...
I think it boils down to accessibly. Tribe's image, approach, and albums in general are easier to digest. De La tends to be more dense, complex, and eclectic---which, based on the comments I've seen from hip-hop fans, makes it difficult for some people to really delve into how brilliant De La is. Though I love both groups, I say De La Soul is superior to ATCQ because of their longevity, consistency, creativity, and lyricism.
***** Agreed. De La really got stuck with that hippy image and that kinda hurt them as the 90's went on with the music getting more hard core. Tribe was able to adapt a little easier because they made some true street bangers without even being gangsta like "Hot Sex On A Platter", "Scenario", "Check The Rhime", "Electric Relaxation" etc...
It's not that simple. There are quite a few hip-hop groups out there whose catalogs aren't as strong as De La's, yet they've received tons more commercial success popularity than DLS. And ATCQ making better music is more of a matter of taste than fact, imo. Some people prefer more eclectic, ambitious music (not to say Tribe's music isn't brilliant). And if you ask me, '3 Feet' isn't even De La's best album. I prefer 'Dead,' Buhloone Mindstate, and 'Stakes'. That's just me tho.
"MAMA GAVE BIRTH TO THE SOUL CHILDREN"
BY QUEEN LATIFAH IS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE COLLABOS BY NATIVE TONGUES
Sea Thizzo that was dope
Her first album is underrated
Rest easy Dave .Philly will always have your legacy in our hearts
You from Camden
THE BEST HIP HOP GROUP IN HISTORY!!!!! They keep making music that gets better and better...true Hip Hop artists! Dope beats, Dope rhymes, REAL HIP HOP!
RIP Trugoy the Dove 🙏🏿
And Phife Diggy Native Tongues for Life 💯
Buddy was my fav gotta b one of my fav groups of all time hip hop at its finest
I'm glad that they made the collaboration songs that they did. As a fan I would've loves to hear a full album from those groups. That level of chemistry isn't easy to achieve.
RIP Dove Trugoy
I saw them and Tribe perform at the Hampton Colosseum in Va "94" Awesome show
757
"Doing our own thang"...was a song on JB's album that was another collaboration song THAT was dope AF
Rest in peace trugoy
We on award tour with Muhammad my man
I would’ve never known. I was actually in the video and ain’t notice a damn thing. It was good vibes that day. One of the most memorable days of my young life.
R.I.P. Plug Two
Wish they all would've collaborated MORE!
RIP TO THE LEGENDARY DAVE!!!!!
Buddy is a classic
Imagine if the Native Tongues dropped a full LP together
Rest In Power.💪🏿♾👑
De La forever yo!
Rest Easy Dove. Trugoy. Plug 2. You’re missed.
The larger the group, the more conflict there will be, that's why its amazing that De La never did the solo thing..Native Tongues collective is straight legendary but you are more likely to hear about the juice crew and other groups.
@@stephenheath8465
What about rhyme syndicate, black watch movement, flavor unit, uptown crew?
@@stephenheath8465
Rhyme Syndicate had among other people:
Ice-T
King Sun
Kid Frost
Everlast
Donald D
Divine Styler
Cypress Hill
Blackwatch had among other people:
X-Clan
Isis (now Linque)
Poor Righteous Teachers
YZ
What about the Freestyle Fellowship?
@@stephenheath8465 Yep. That's the one.
I wasn't sure if he joined it.
Just so I know, what's d.i.t.c.?
RIP Dave aka Trugoy the Dove
RIP Dave 🕊🕊🕊🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Legends all of them tribe dela the JBs flava unit all of them their music all of them speaks for its self no discussion leaders I mean really these guys the for mentioned can never ever be questioned or compared
The Saturday Remix(what your life could truly be) that’s a Native Gem
I never heard it thx will look it up
Damn never seen this interview. First time I’ve heard him address that line in “I am, I be”
A Native Tongue album is the greatest album NEVER made.
These dudes are legend. Many of these new school artist won't be legendary sorry to say ! Their music is gimmicky.
71dhwand don't be an old head and sleep on the new school
There are some new school dudes that are good, but it's not many because everybody wants to sound the same. You know it just like everybody else. The quality of music today is dead. Everyone cares about quantity not quality.
71dhwand yeah but if I went back to the 90s the music from production to lyrics werent anymore diverse as this generations music is as well.
Emilio Lee I disagree with that. There was more balance back then with music. Today they are even putting music in all one genre, pop ! Many of the hip hop artist music today is popish. That is why so many good artist are going back to underground. Underground has always even back in the 90's had the most talented artist. Of course the mainstream vultures come down try to emulate the sound and water the whole shit down. That is even worst today. Premo said it best, " No talent required" and it true as hell. Their are some artist putting the passion back into the music, but the industry is all about dollars so they feel it is not profitable. Also it doesn't matter where a person pulls their inspiration from either the 90's or the 2K if the shit is hot it is just hot if the shit is wack it is wack. 80's and 90's were the best era of modern music. I feel your arguement, but the masses speak in volume today's music has no diversity.
I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT A NATIVE TONGUES ALBUM VOLUME SERIES WOULD'VE BEEN ONE TO CHERISH... PERHAPS LAUNCHING CAREERS OF SOME FRESH UP AND COMING TALENT.... I NEED NOT EVEN SPEAK ON WHAT THESE BROTHERS HAVE DONE FOR RAP MUSIC IN GENERAL, THEIR CATALOG ALONE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF... I CAN REMEMBER AS FAR BACK AS HIGH SCHOOL, WHEN EVERYONE ELSE WAS LISTENING TO KANE AND RAKIM, I STAYED LISTENING TO THE NATIVE TONGUES COLLECTIVE.......... SURE FAMILY MEMBERS GO THROUGH STRAINS IN THEIR RELATIONSHIPS... HOWEVER, WE AS INDIVIDUALS NEED TO LOOK INTO OURSELVES AND ASK DO WE THINK WE CAN GO THROUGH LIFE WITHOUT BEING WITH A FAMILY MEMBER THAT HAS BEEN WITH US THROUGH THICK AND THIN ? RICH OR POOR? MARRIED AND DIVORCED? I THINK NOT........... IT'S A BLESSING THAT DE LA HAS BEEN AN ENTITY FOR OVER 30 YEARS... I HOPE ALL THE NATIVE TONGUE MEMBERS CAN COME TOGETHER AND DO A TRIBUTE TO PHIFE AND CHRIS LIGHTY.........PEACE & BLESSINGS...............*word*.
These dudes were so fucking dope
Legendary shy here
Saturday...Sat ur day!!!
Do a Native Tongue clothing line.
Who the hell gave this video a thumbs down though?!
RIP to the 🕊
Loveeee this group omg..one of my favorite from the 90s...i will say they look good...and actually if they all shed 30lbs each they would look exactly how they looked in the 90s...it's apparent they didn't riddle their bodies/health with lots of drinking and smoking...they are still very healthy and youthful
Rest in Beats TRUGOY
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Surprised Vlad knew that lyric from I Am I Be.....
Word up man. Vlad is so corny so often to me that I was shocked the way he spit it, lmao
toadslayer72 especially when you hear him talking about Lollipop from Wayne being great etc and then he pulls one of Pos' gems out, bewildering lol
PATHH88
Yeah man, Vlad has a long way to go to get a pass from me. Jamar and now De La is a step in the right direction. The shit that he feels is "dope" often makes me recoil.
LMAO, fuckin Wayne. I can't help but think of DOOM's lyrics when Wayne is brought to my attention....."What up? To all rappers shut up with your shutting up and keep your shirt on, at least a button-up. Yuck, is they rhymers or stripping males,? Outta work jerks since they shut down Chippendales."
It's hard for a collective of groups to all be on the same cut very often, particularly successfully... you've got ones like Flavor Unit, Hit Squad, Boot Camp Clik, Diggin' in the Crates, Wu-Tang Killa Beez that only released anywhere between 0 and 2 albums I'd say. The Native Tongues should be proud they put quality above quantity, and even Pos shouldn't feel too bad about the Buhloone Mindstate line etched in history, since 3 years later he etched in history 'the Native Tongues has officially been REINSTATED' with Tip right there in the video. Lotta dope shit, from some real guys (not trying to act like anything other than what they were, which a LOT of other rap individuals could have done better at). Love to all the Tongues, and rest in power Trugoy the Dove.
vlad the king. DE LA are the phattest, much respect!
Where was the album
How can I get in touch with them for an ibterview?
Hey don't forget about Doing are own Thing recored Dave LOL!!!!
Regardless all of y'all changed my LIFE!!!! SALUTE NATIVE Tongue!!!
Dave was the best! :) RIP King! btw. Maseo rolling his tumbs whole interview is funny :D And actually at Jungle Brotherses second album has one maybe even two Whole Native Tongue members.
'im think Tommy Boy stifled the collaborative process. Nevertheless, Salute to these Legends.
RIP Dave 🙏🏽
R.i.p. Dove
Huttled line run. Push head shoulder knees toes, girl friend up down 🌟🎗️
"like the little ball inside the spray can, providing 3 coats for both child woman and man"
Rest In Peace Dave
RIP TRUGOY
I love da la soul,they are very unique and definitely part of hip hop soul, R.I.P. PLUG 2, YOU WILL ALWAYS BE PART OF MY LOVE FOR THE REAL HIP HOP AND WHAT YOU ACCOMPLISHED WITH DA LA SOUL AND ALL YOU DID IN THE HIP HOP REAL HIP HOP COMMUNITY.....
My favorite group so underrated with all the bubble gum.
Still my favorite cats, period.
Plug 1 and 2 and maseo
941FLA Lowe Yep. Dem Boyz
Is it me or did q tip clash with alot of people?
Wait...that was Trugoy on the Award Tour hook?!?!?! How did I never catch that?
Are you deaf ?
RIP
RIP trugoy Dave jolicouer
@ djvlad,
A boom mike would be a nice investment.
Guys u are 🤣👏👏👏
Native Tongues is a mostly "organic" crew?
NERD - "She Wants To Move" (native tongues remix)
Vlad loves to stir the pot of negativity
i love this,i love native tongues,i love them more than wutang
Vlad: "fuck all that brotherhood shit. I heard y'all niggas was beefing. Talk about that."
Why?
How would that improve the quality of life?
Thank you for the De La Vlad. Ur still wack tho. Lmfao
I love De la. I'm more of a Tribe guy. I felt there albums where more concentrated as far as being better but what can you say? De la soul continues to make music which means soooo much. Gotta give them big props for that. BUT!!! ATCQ > De la soul IMO
Doing our own thing? Yell
Where’s the rest of this interview of De aka Soul at?!
Vlad tv, genius.
native tongues:
de la soul
jungle bros.
tribe called quest
monie love & queen latifah
black sheep =
slum village
And Chi-Ali
No they weren't. They were dope though.
The Pharcyde was really dope, I agree. I listened to them back in the 90’s. They were West Coast from California.
And the Beatnuts
#DEEP
Fugees, Diggable Planets, Pharcyde, PM Dawn, and X Clan all should’ve been Native Tongues imo
Trugoy died 😢
Yep.. Just seen that like 20 mins ago
Never a Pos album, or Trugoy, always de la.
So scenario is not a native tongue song?
LONS were like a second wave of Native Tongue so not really classed as a Native Tongue joint- no de la, no black sheep, no jungle brothers, no Monie Love, no chi Ali...I would guess...
It was a atcq x leaders of the new school joint
SatanDynastyKiller doing our own thing? Yell
caphoumes what b no😂😂😂that was lons
It was A Tribe Called Quest song feat. Leaders of the New School. On the ‘Low End Theory’ album (‘91).
We need a Tribe Verzuz De La .... For Hip Hop!!!!!
Rest In Peace Trugoy, Plug2 🌟💫💯😭
De la soul named me as their biggest inspiration alongside Caitlyn Jenner. Peep my music
Anybody connect to babybam probably been invited to bambatta house
De La Soul ATCQ JB's Latifah LOTNS ..changed the sound in Hip Hop!!!!!
Pos...... One of the first haters on wax... Still love de la though..
The guy in the middle got cut off while talking. And never got to talk.
Maseo never really talk like that
What is “Native Tongue” ??
Am originally from Nigeria 🇳🇬, so I don’t understand that phrase….
In short: It was a group of multiple groups and solo artists that had s good relationship.
Da la soul didn't like tribecall quest queens success
I LUV all three groups.......
but i always thought the song "Buddy" was over hyped.
Thing is De La wasn't really native tongues....they came thru Prince Paul and Stetsasonic
Wrong...Prince Paul came through Stetsasonic. De La came through JBs & DJ Red Alert
they look hella uncomfortable in that small ass room
I really wish they didn't downplay the whole "Native Tongue" collective. Now, I feel as my entire childhood was completely fake; first Santa, wrestling, and this!!!