Why are LuLaRoe consultants going out of business?
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- Why does it seem so many LLR consultants are going or of business?
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Sounds like a pyramid scheme
Liana Mori that's EXACTLY what it is
Liana Mori yes!!! I have been a victim. I sold Mary Kay. Anything that ask you to recruit people is a pyramid scheme. There are so many of these. What I am finding that I don't like is that this company has these women having the same exact videos which address the same exact issues. And they are all encouraging you to buy inventory. Buy, buy, buy. Work, stress, work, stress. And they call it an opportunity.
I get you Susan. My best friend wanted me to join Scentsy and some other company that sells body wraps and even Plexus. She was so encouraging but I took a step back and thought if I joined and said my friend recommended me to join she would get discount on items.
Guys...this and all the others mentioned are NOT pyramid schemes. This is a peeve of mine. A "pyramid scheme" is dishonest, awful, and ILLEGAL. It is an investment with NO tangible product and the "model" (scam) flops eventually. You have all mentioned tangible products...that alone makes it ineligible for the term "pyramid scheme" I believe you are wanting to say "Multi-level marketing" or "direct sales" or "in home sales". These companies aren't a scam. I am n t representative of any of them and I wouldn't be a rep of any of them but what they do isn't illegal. So please don't say pyramid scheme...google pyramid scheme. Those are indeed horrific.
Jaimie T away is legal and is a pyramid scheme
I am leaving LuLaRoe not because I thought this would be easy. It is not because I thought I would make money and just sit back. Nope I have worked my butt off for the past 7 month for a company that has let me down. They say this business is your own business yet the change the P&P to micromanage my business. We order 700 bucks worth of merchandise. They take all our money and send us backorder slips. They have been out of stock in TC since Sep. i was down to 13 pairs. They say oh leggings aren't going to break your business. Yeah? Well half if what I sell are leggings. They design some ugly prints and expect us to sell them. When we complain they say oh its because you aren't trying hard enough. Speaking of complaining. You can't really because if you call HO you can't get a hold of anyone. You can email but they never answer back. I can go on and on about all the why's of me quitting. It's not AT ALL because of work.
I agree with u 100%! I don't know why LLR makes so many ugly prints
I could have written this comment myself. I am so tired of seeing reps still with the company spreading rumors about how people quit because they were lazy, or thought it would be simple, etc. etc. I poured every last second of every day into the business and because of the company's practices, they made it impossible to succeed unless you could keep buying huge amounts of new inventory (if they even had items in stock) or had a large local base where you could sell in homes. It is fine if the business is working for them, but to basically tell anyone thinking of joining that people are only leaving because they thought it would be easier or don't want to work is untruthful and unfair. I quit because I no longer wanted to stand behind the product, which for me was defective more often than not and did not like the way the business treated me and many others.
BunnVoyage Yep. I am owed $300 and they accepted my resignation Jan 4th. I don't think I will see that money. I have almost gotten rid of all my inventory now. I made back my initial and am now paying off my CC. I may come out with a couple thousand in profit out of this whole thing. One thing I learned.... I can do this. Can't wait to see what my next adventure will be. 😃
I feel like we are the same person haha. I wanted to sell LLR so bad and once I started I hated it. the company changed so much when I signed up. it was not what I was "sold" when I signed up.
I have a question for you Melinda, are you saying that when you place an order with LulaRoe they charge your credit card immediately for the full order and then told you later that some items weren't available, (back ordered, out of stock)? What happens with your money while you are waiting for your back ordered, out of stock items? You just wait for however long it takes to get? In the meantime you're paying interest on a credit card for merchandise that's backordered? Did I understand you right?
Being part of a MLM scheme is not the same thing as being a small business owner. Selling LulaRoe does not make you am entrepreneur. It's a pyramid scheme. It's a hobby at best, but more often a con, a disgraceful exploitation of people who believe the false hype.
False. I joined 4 months ago and have made 6k+ in sales each month...and I keep half. So 3k a month selling these beautiful clothes. Every month my sales go up. I gain more customers who love the clothing. Because the clothing is amazing.
It's not a pyramid scheme at all. Like the LITERAL definition of a pyramid scheme doesn't fit this whatsoever.
LuLaRoe Matt Evelo I call bs. And how much did you pay in to get started? Thousands - to sell poorly made inferior products.
It's a business. You get what you give. It is not a pyramid scheme, it is multi-level marketing... which is exactly how your retailers sell their clothes; purchase wholesale and sell retail.
It's not for everyone.
mpayne1224 you know nothing about MLM. this isn't a pyramid scheme at all. I personally paid nothing to get started, my sister won a contest that let me join for free. but I did invest into racks,.printer, etc out of my own money. I have 7 girls under me on my team and they are all doing really well for just starting.
mpayne1224 and inferior products? these are just as good quality as target and forever 21, etc.
my customers loved these clothes and since do i.
Why, because it's overpriced junk!
Jeannie Geiser I've bought legging everywhere from TORRID to rue 21. I've paid 40$ for leggings and I've paid 4$ for leggings. Lularoe are literally the best, most comfortable leggings I have ever owned. ever. I find it hard to believe that people calling them crap have ever bought leggings at that price point and actually compared them. they are made very well, the fit is amazing, and they feel wonderful. from personal experience I just don't see why people say they are junk. I've bought junk, Lularoe is not junk lol
It is ugly junk.
Lol! My sister bought my daughter a pair of leggings as a gift. They came with hole on the thigh! I would not buy this crap !
It's not attractive clothing and over priced
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who thought it was ugly.
No, I think it's pretty darned ugly myself.
And the quality is not good. There are reports of people finding holes in the leggings the 1st or 2nd time they wear them. And the sizing is not consistent.
Boy, did you drink the kool-aid.
thats what i was gonna say! haha
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it is a pyramid scheme and what happens when every ones a seller? you run out of buyers but the company is happy! you bought all that crap to resell... they made money. Literally 15 facebook friends of mine sell this crap.... I only have 110 facebook friends. Good luck.
Krystie you you don't know one thing about lularoe do you? yet you get in here and say it's a pyramid scam, it's not, pyramid's schemes are illegal you can't get an e-commerce license as a company if it was hello, second dose not matter how many people you have selling lularoe every consult gets different patterns and designs no two are the same that's how it works, dam understand how thing work before blabbing about its this or its that seriously.
Byron Arellano If you have to assure people that it isn't a pyramid scheme, it probably is one. If it's shaped like a triangle it's a pyramid scheme.
I think it's both brilliant and insane that a company found a pyramid scheme that the buy in isn't between $100-$300, but rather over $5,000.00. I wonder if you're even making min wage after all this crap?
ParasaurolophusLovesCoffee look up the definition of a pyramid scheme. I'm making around $3500 a month in PROFIT, as in what I keep for myself. And I'm a male consultant. A pyramid scheme is where you make money getting people to sign up under you. Lularoe is not that.
Don't compare this pyramid scheme to being a parent, yes it takes hard work but LuLaRoe is a rip off and being a parent has WAY more responsibility.... Also it's not a unique opportunity, by the way. Lots of direct sales "jobs" out there. Nothing special.
So do they “sell themselves” or do you have to put in a lot of work to sell the clothes? You said both.
Stop giving false hope. It's a lot harder then you are saying it is. My daughter tried for almost a year and she poured her heart and soul into the business and still couldn't keep up with it. Way too many ugly prints to try to sell with very few nice ones. The quality of the clothes is shit. Just about all have holes left and right so yeah she got out. It was taking more money than she was putting into it and even going out of business sales were hard because who was ugly unattractive clothes at that price with holes in them. Not a good business to get into.
Yes, the fact that you cannot select what products you want to sell and are stuck with random patterns sounded awful. Also I saw a lot of talk about cheap fabrics with holes in it. Sounds like they are screwing over their consultants. I have avoided people selling it due to what I've heard about the low quality of the clothes and how quickly they fall apart.
I agree. It is awe full. That is why I teach people real business, from A-Z. Anybody can sell anything. Doing it effectively requires skill practice and training.
Many people were "going out of business" to get rid of as much inventory as possible to avoid paying taxes on their inventory.
Run ...run far, run fast!
I just wish I knew how to get them out of my news feed on Facebook
This company is a joke. Haha. Seen so many going out of business & wasted so much money. The clothing is worn by people that shouldn't be wearing them. Not flattering! The big girls love them because they don't have to actually get dressed!
so are you still in business? My consultant is going out of business. She worked hard, she loves the clothing and she was the BEST. But she pointed out, they are beginning to balk on returns, and they are on boarding EVERYONE. No one is going to pay full price if they can get the clothing at half off at a going out of business sale. But my consultant who I imagined would never leave, left. She was "The company is not being supportive." Also the styling they are now pushing, with layering and patterns all going together, is not flying with the people they are selling to. People want solids. People want clothing they can throw in the wash, without thinking, as the customers are teachers, mothers, not stylists living in NY or San Francisco. The company is making it harder and harder. She has TONS of sales. And she loves the clothing. The point is that she put in the time and made money, but... wasn't getting the backing from the company. In the end she chose family. If you don't pick family (this has to take a LOT OF TIME,) that's fine. BUT... the company was started with the philosophy of full time pay at part time work. The original videos are INSANE, "make $15,000 in the first month!". That was bad on the company. Are the rewards there for you yet? That's the only question. Is it meaningful to spend SO MUCH TIME selling clothing (are you making enough money?)... or would that time be better spent being rested and happy with your family?
This sounds like a pyramid scheme!
I noticed you have to be very happy at all times.
I see everyone selling this stuff. Thing is I see more and more people complaining about the quality and sizes. yes they say its soft but I've yet to see quality or good fit. My SIL was wearing it at christmas and it looked horrible. The shoulder seams were almost to her elbows and it was so oversized I thought she was wearing pjs. I would never put $50 into an outfit like that.
Brandon Gossman Ummm could that be because your SIL bought the wrong size??
Melissa Sealey very well could be but even had it fit it was still ugly. very thin material and I could see puckers and thread showing through the seams. just doesn't seem worth it
Brandon Gossman the thing is, many consultants have favorites and pick and choose stuff for their friends/themselves. leaving people who aren't knowledgeable of the brand to fend for themselves when it comes to styling. Not to mention some women just put random stuff together from laziness. A true lularoe consultant will teach people to wear stylish outfits/representatable outfits to build the brand. this is all the result of having too many consultants doing the bare minimum.
If you've lost hope look up lularoe outfits on Pinterest, or join one of many groups available on Facebook and be amazed. I know many women who were anti lularoe, because I do admit myself I thought they were hideous!! give it a second chance if you like and look around :)
Tbh the clothes were tacky lol
I agree with you, that a lot of us didn't realize the work that was involved, but also there are those are us, that know it's hard to run your own business, but there are other factors that are causing a lot of LLR consultants to go out of business also, I think we need to be totally honest in this. There are things that the company could do that would help a lot of the consultants that are already in the company to be more successful. It is a awesome opportunity, and it has changed thousands of lives, that is amazing, I think it started out as a amazing ideal, and it did change many people's lives for the better. There come's a point though when its not all on the consultants shoulders, yes its our business, and its our job to make sure we succeed, but its the companies job, to provide us with the things we need for continued success. I think there comes a point when a company that is seeing this kind of overwhelming growth, they have to slow down, maybe put a hold on things, until they can literally catch up to the demand of those that are already invested, spent their money, and depending on this company to come through when they need to order, for the new consultant, that must sell to order, its a hard task when you can't order a lot of what you need, when you are going to be waiting for that inventory a long time, knowing that selling is the only way you can place another order, but you have no new inventory coming to fill that gap. I just have to be honest, and say that yes its 90% on the consultant's to make their business work, but the other 10% you really need a company you can depend on to have what you need when you need it for all consultants to see true success, the ones that are putting in the work, and are trying to everything possible to see success. That is why we have put our money and faith into this company, believing they are doing everything they possibly can to make sure the consultants succeed. There is a lag in that department. I'm sorry its just hard to see it all put on every consultant that is not making it, its their fault, when in reality we know the struggles of doing everything you can, then just out right now being able to get timely service. There also needs to be a platform where the company listens to those in the trenches, and take into consideration our concerns and what we see that is hurting us to grow our business!
Vanessa Jordan Yes tons of us asked them to stop onboarding. You know what they said? That we were all being selfish because we didn't want to share the success with other families and bless others the way we have been blessed. 😐 The owners never have to correct anything because we the consultants are the ones that are wrong. I got out. 😁 Best decision ever!
Thank you so much for this video. I am in the queue as I type this awaiting my phone call any day now. I truly appreciate your honesty as to how much work it is selling LuLaRoe. I am very excited but nervous at the same time. Unlike some consultants, my children are grown and married. My husband so far has been very supportive in my decision to do this. He has offered to help with anything I need. I will remember what you said in this video when I start. Thank you again. Have a wonderful holiday with your family and good luck with the upcoming addition to your family.
it would be easier if the site would just let shop
Thank you so much ! Needed to hear this ❤️
A pyramid scheme business is based on the necessity and reliance that you recruit others in order to make money. My understanding from speaking to consultants withe LuLaRoe is that while there can be additional money made by recruiting others, the primary source of income is how much you do. There is ZERO requirement to recruit others to sell. Most of those that fail did so because they thought this was going to be an easy business. IT IS A TON OF HARD WORK that requires a lot of time and effort. But if you are fortunate to have an audience to address, groups to sell to, and an online following, you can make a successful business. Do not think that you can get into this business and sit back and do nothing to make a ton of money.
LOVE LOVE LOVE this! You really put things into perspective! I have been a consultant since November and I am seeing the growth now after the holidays and seeing how "hard" it is. I work full time also so its even harder but I am persistent with myself and I make it work for my family so that I can eventually be able to stay home with my little boy and support my family on this venture. Thanks for this
Why not sell what you want? Like authentic designer handbags? Just a question.
Because you want to sell what other people want to buy...not necessarily what you want to sell.
I thought LLR was supposed to be mainly pop ups. Seems like the online stuff and shipping would be a huge pain.
thank you for posting this rant! I don't find styles like these in terms of fashion, comfort and fit in any store. This is so great for me. I will be sure to do whatever I can to help my consultant be successful! I was not aware of all she does behind the scenes and have so much more admiration now. I can't wait to place my next order!!
Pay me 7000 dollars for the right to sell my brand of soda, 90 percent of my soda no one will buy, 10 percent of it people will. Oh yea, you are going to have restrictive and prohibitive "rules" on selling my soda, and you have to place a order for more soda every month with me regardless if you're selling or not selling your previous months soda. But if you want to stop, ill buy what you have back at a 15% discount. Sound good? Now replace soda with clothes and leggings and you have Lularoe.
I only have a few pieces left from my initial inventory that haven't sold. One thing I've learned with LuLaRoe is, EVERYTHING SELLS. And anybody that says otherwise doesn't know anything about this business. My sister has been with them for 2 years and has sold every "ugly" print she's gotten.
I have prints I get and I go "man, no way will that sell" and it does.
Thank you for posting this. We have been successful with LLR sense we on boarded in January 2017. Its lot of hard work but so worth it.. Your video was amazing. Thank you and we love working with LLR...
you know what might help with quebies or recently onboarded consultants expectations? If LLR people would accept and talk about the fact that not everything is sparkly rainbows and butterflies.
Anytime someone asks a question that deviates from that mentality, or even has a thought that deviates from that mentality, you are shunned.
TELL PEOPLE that things are hard and customers are mean sometimes, and that no matter what you do, even discounting to WS, THINGS WONT SELL!
Let people know exactly WHAT they can expect that is good bad and ugly and maybe THEN, not so many GOOB sales will appear.
Another thing that might help is, HO can maybe keep their promise of supporting their consultants and taking care of them. Because right now... they have epically failed.
I have been selling since end of JUne 2016. I loved your video. I love how you told it how it is. I got emotional at the truth of it. THank you for saying all you did.
I am leaving this company NOT because I couldn't do the work or because I thought it was a pyramid scheme. Simply put- it grew too large too fast and I have no interest in being involved in something that doesn't put the consultants interests first. I was successful with LLR and have a team too. I am leaving while on top not because I failed or didn't put the time in. I am leaving feeling good and looking forward to my next venture.
But they do look out for our interests. They made it so we can accept payments easier. We can finally swipe credit cards. We can be paid same day. They got the legging situation sorted out. They're CONSTANTLY doing EVERYTHING for us. People have way to high of expectations for what to expect from a multi-billion dollar company. They're doing everything they can. It's not saturated enough to shut down onboarding. I have 60 consultants in my city...and guess what? Most of them are successful. We aren't in a big city either. Saturation is a bad excuse for someone that doesn't know how to get out of their comfort zone.
LuLaRoe Matt Evelo really?? How long have you been selling just curious?
Nicole Force I've been selling for myself for 5 months and was my sisters assistant for a year. She's been with lularoe since there was only 600 consultants.
LuLaRoe Matt Evelo ok. Two different ends of the spectrum she got in very early and you are new. If you and she are happy then that is great. I am content with my decision as well. It's all perspective and this is my perspective and truth.
I like this honest assessment. It's not all negative or positive. It's just real. I'm seriously considering selling, and I need to hear this kind of thing.
crazy you can't select your inventory and you get stuck with such ugly pcs! I also heard quality vs cost isn't there. Holes, pills, special care etc.
Yup, I know all about clothing sales - I sold for Weekender Fashions from 1998 to 2005. It was a lot of work. I was fed up with having to buy the expensive samples every 6 months, so I left the company and quit the biz. But then in 2007 the company went out of biz becasue the new management (owners) ran the company into the ground and wanted to introduce skin care. I mentioned to my upline that they need to keep with clothing niche and leave skin care to Mary Kay! They did not listen and they went out of biz. This was very sad - just like the LuLaRoe it affected many peoples businesses. You ma'am are not being truthful either about the clothes. The clothes quality is very shoddy and for what customers have to pay it is not worth it. That is why they are going out of biz. The clothes quality is very bad. This is very sad. People asked me if I wanted to sell these clothes, I said no. I do not sell semi comsumables - I only sell HIGH consumables - things people need everyday anyway - they use it up and order more product(s). I am with the best direct sales marketing company in the world, Melaleuca. YES the best I have been with many companies and they have the best products, and the best pay! Check them out: www.melaleuca.com/pamelaprizant G-d bless!
Thank you for this video. Keep pushing through. I'm not a consultant but LuLa has given me a confidence I have NEVER had as a big girl. I just got my 15 year old niece her first pair and the confidence I saw the second she put them on made me soar. I am going to be joining your fb group!
Did you close up shop after this video?
Market is saturated and the products are overpriced!! Furthermore Lularoe is in the driver's seat and making all the money. It's a scam. Run far away...A big problem is you can't select your inventory- and you get random prints and sizes..That's defeating..I have an online store and only stock what sells. This video is a rambling mess.
Well said Kristin. I love my LuLaRoe business. It has brought me a lot of wonderful friends and sense of community, along with extra income for my family.
Sorry, this is no different than any other direct sale business that is owned by someone else, i.e., Pampered Chef, Tupperware, etc. Why is LLR a pyramid scheme yet Pampered Chef and any insurance company not?
Eve Lapp they are all multi-level marketing (pyramid) companies.
MLM and Pyramid Schemes aren't the same thing. LLR isn't even really a MLM. The money comes from sales...not from getting a team under you. That's just for a nice bonus. The actual money you make is from sales.
LLR does not have a website or a catalog like Plexus, Pampered Chef, Scentsy, Arbonne, etc. So, yeah...it is different!
LuLaRoe Matt Evelo If you have a team under you at all that's a pyramid scheme! The point is that as the market gets more saturated it will be harder to sell your crap and that's when it switches over to making more off of your underlings. If you have a lot of underlings then it doesn't seem so bad but if you're at bottom you spent 8k for nothing.
Pixality 100% untrue. the only way to get a bonus is to order a certain amount every month and then you get a percentage of what your team orders. but they are in the works of changing all of this to sales. so in the future, to get any sort of bonus, you have to sell a certain amount. and then you'll get a percentage of what your team sells. this is in no way a pyramid scheme. the bonuses act as a bonus for training your team about the culture of lularoe and how to use our processing systems, etc. don't talk about stuff if you know nothing of it, bud.
and it's not crap. I've seen these clothes literally change countless lives. and not just people who have joined...I've seen it change customers lives, bring them out of depression, ptsd, etc. it's not crap, it's literally changing lives.
I really thank you for your video. I joined the queue on January 12th. I have half of my family that's grudgingly supportive and the other half that is adamantly against it. I'm a single mom of 3, I have 3 jobs, and I'm tired of working as hard as I do for the little I make. Thank you for helping reaffirm my decision!
I'm pretty sure this didnt age well.
To be fair, most business models are pyramids. My solution..."Control the pyramid"-Mr Smith
How condescending to the victims.
"Their expectations were not correct". Very true statement. My wife is a LLR retailer. She works her butt off, plus she works full time in a local hospital as an ER nurse. I help her as much as I can in set ups and shipping.
It is hard work....but rewarding. The wife plans on going full time in LLR soon.
Crazy
Because it’s ugly now and cheaply made and overpriced
So, what's your excuse?
Its just like any other at home business, like Scentsy, Mary Kay, Pamper Chief.... they sell themselves but if you don't know what you are doing or have any kind of sales experience, you will fail.
"They sell themselves." Is that a guarantee? Oh, wait, you follow it with a 'but' and then negate that statement completely.
All direct sales are the same and not for everyone. But the rewards can be GREAT too!
own a small business?
LLR is by no means a pyramid scheme. You get a very small compensation for having people "under" you, but that is not the goal when your a consultant. Your goal is to sell, sell, sell! Being a GOOD consultant is hard work, your not only selling LLR you're selling yourself. When thousands of people are basically selling the same product the only thing that is going to set you above the rest is your customer service and your attention to the small things. LLR is getting a bad name now because of lousy consultants that have tarnished the image. I also worry about the market getting saturated since there are so many consultants in certain areas. My wife is a consultant and she loves it and she has a great reputation with her customers and this is by no means an easy task! You get back what you put into it this business.
Please marry me
Because some of you people obviously don't know definitions of words you use...
Pyramid scheme definition: A pyramid scheme is a business model that recruits members via a promise of payments or services for enrolling others into the scheme, rather than supplying investments or sale of products or services.