How Justise Winslow Failed In The NBA
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2022
- Justise Winslow came into the NBA with extremely high expectations. But after a few years into his NBA career, it was obvious that he wasn't going to live up to it. What went wrong? Hope you enjoy!
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I’m a heat fan and man this dude was a gem at the time!! Sad how things turned out!! Hopefully he still stays in the league as a role player some way!!
Facts
Back to Miami!
As a Miami fan as well, we make diamonds out of shit. Look at Josh Richardson and Whiteside for example. Also our current roster? Hell alot of those dudes would be gone in two years.
Same
Men we could had booker
Miami was so patient. Beasley was there for 4yrs and then also came back. Heat gave a lot of players 2nd chances and opportunities for hidden gems. Winslow had all the chances.
How many times did Beasley play for Miami? Was it 3?
Also, watching him play for the Knicks, he had some good games. I hope he comes back for a couple of years. On his day he can light up the scoreboard like few can.
Yes I'm expecting the inevitable comments about how -
He can also light up the treatment table, light up the courtroom, light up the blunts.
Have no idea why I went off bout Beasley on a Winslow video! I think Justice will bounce back 🤞
Hope you're good anywaze fam.
@@MrMiD.Life.Crisis Noone actually ever said that Beasley got no game. He had tons of potential and everybody knew this. But gremlins messing with him all the time is just too much.
@@MrMiD.Life.Crisis beasley was main reason miami was able to get lebron and bosh they used him to get off a contract which freedup cap space to sign them, also beasley was there at a wrong time if he was picked after lebron era he would have become one of the better players of the 10s this is mainly due to a fact that coach spo has a better understading of the team now than then but still winslow will always be loved by the miami fans he showed a lot of flases but would always get hurt just when he was aboout to break out
@@andreydovbysh7789 yeh I know. Dya remember when Beaz was getting and some weren't sure if he would be better than kd? Seems crazy now but just shows how much potential he had. I have no idea why I went off bout Beasley! Anywaze, hope you're good.
@@MrMiD.Life.Crisis true. And flashes of this potential still can be seen even to this day. I always feel sad about those guys that just had it but never developed because of own stupidity.
It was DRose he was drafted after tho. But yup, many ppl thought Bulls leaned towards choosing Rose mostly because he grew up in Chi. They seemed pretty much equal.
This hurts as a heat fan knowing we could've gotten devin booker 😭😭
Right lol
Hindsight is 20/20 tho. Winslow had major upside in college and was just simply better at the time so of course it looks bad now but back then it was a great pick
I get it, but we have to remember that Winslow was definitely the better player at the time. People forget Booker was a six man
😭😭
@@williefaulker true but he was the sixth man on a stacked Kentucky team the fact that he was still a lottery pick says a lot cuz if he stayed another year he would be a top 5 pick for sure
I mean that 2018/19 season was great for him when he got to play PG. There were serious talks whether he should start over Dragic, but sadly for him Nunn Herro and Duncan all popped off that season and he got injured so he couldnt even get playtime in the end
Even still when Herro and Jimmy arrived, Winslow was supposed to stay the starting PG. He just couldn’t stay healthy
I remember playing MyGM with Heat in 2K16 and I always thought/believed he'd have like 90+ OVR in 2K18-19. Boy was I WRONG holy fuck...
There was a time where he was just hyped lmao
He was too injury prone… he was arguably the best perimeter defender on the team, at the time if I remember correctly it was between Winslow , Stanley Johnson and Kelly Oubre. We didn’t pick Booker because the 3 point era was just starting to kick off, we still had wade and Bosh on the team so he fit their timeline better but Bookers numbers in college are simply amazing
Funny how none of those forwards ended up being that great. Oubre is a nice bench player
@@gators9570 think oubre is getting better .. this year we have seen some crazy flashes . He might just be a bench killer tho for his career. Maybe a 6moty a year or 2 .
@@marcvelli7432 the only problem with oubre is that he doesn’t wanna come off the bench he wants to be a starter that’s why he didn’t stay with golden state for a 6th man role
Fr tho i got bullied for saying booker was gonna be a future hof, everybody called me an idiot and a casual
@@jasonv6319 bro I definitely didn't see it and as I think back it was he had to share the ball his game didn't just jump off the screen
Wild thing is every time I watch him play I still think he does things ALOT of teams need. I see him ending up on a contender one day being an important role player.
Yeah he’s not much of a failure. He’s made like $40 million as a player and had some good years. Just too injury prone
@@gators9570 that's the best way to look at it. With all the issues he's had, he's made enough to be set for life. He had a hip replacement. How much do people expect from him? Hopefully he's been smart with his money.
Players like Justise Winslow, I wish one more season in college basketball would do wonders. In the NBA there is no time to continue to learn and get acclimated to the difference of games played a season from HS to the pros within 3 years. At the same time, I cannot blame players like Winslow entering the draft ASAP when eligible. It's touch and go and hoping that a very talented player like Winslow doesn't get seriously injured within the first few years.
I'm a blazer fan and he came up big for us tonight
Andy, you haven't mentioned few things:
- he missed 64 games in his sophomore season due to right shoulder,
- he was traded to Memphis due to five different back injuries which limited his season to 11 games
- he injured his hip right after the last back injury recovery
- in Memphis he left 12 games due to thigh injury
That's the reason why he failed. There were stretches where he averaged 14-6-5 on 46% FG and 39% 3P (36 games in 18-19), 19-9-7-1-1 on 41% FG and 43% 3P (3 games at the beginning of 19-20) but they ended with injuries.
He had low usage percentage (career best: 21.9% in Memphis).
Also Coach Spo liked to experiment with Winslow like putting him on center position against Embiid in the playoffs.
yeah, my thoughts about this is OP is lazy and didn't do his research properly. He missed a lot of facts making this video a troll story that is only meant to be a clickbait. Justise was never a bad player- just often injured.
@@miguelgareev1552 Injury is not an excuse for a player sucking. Justise was simply not ready for the NBA. He was a one and done player. This is the problem with today's NBA, they honestly think one year in college prepares you for the NBA, it does not. The most likely scenario for a one and done player is they either end being a bust, a rotational player, or an average player. One and done players who leave college too early hurt their development and they end up sucking forever, unless they go to a team that teaches them the necessary skillsets for them to be a solid player (see Andrew Wiggins).
You should have a CZcams channel this is actually quality analysis.
i still remenber how thing escalated badly when he got concusion after a hit against milsap head to head due to a leonard push. milsap was bleeding and seems not that bad for justise but he miss some game cuz he suffered vertige and headache. then he injured his back he return T_T
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This hurts to see, I loved him at Duke when I first started watching basketball and then I was ecstatic when he joined my favorite team the clippers but we traded him, I hope he is a goat in Portland
We gotta win it this year. Leonard will be back by playoffs and he has alot to prove.
@@novembertcg4001 hey man I hope so, I always thought this was a wash year and that 2023 was the year, but if Kawhi and pg come back who says we cant
@@TarmaanProductions personally I kinda wish we traded Leonard but I gotta give him the benefit of the doubt. I love how PG became the leader we needed but this team is something special.
@@novembertcg4001 fax, I love Kawhi tho
@@novembertcg4001 win what? Lol
Honestly, his short run on Portland is showing he can still play, and on the injury’s side of things, well that’s just up to his body
The fact that Miami drafted and waited on Winslow is the only reason he's still in the league - if he had gone elsewhere and under performed as usual, he'd be out in playing in China after 3 years.
Even though he never got his offense on track, I'm happy he was on our team. That group had a couple fun playoff series.
Hurts to see how his career went as a heat fan. Really thought he’d plan to be something special.
Thank you for the contet!
I was wondering wtf happened to the man, I actually enjoyed watching him in 14-15 or 15-16, whenever Miami made that surpringly deep run with the old DWade.
I was really rooting for him to become a star
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Man, as a Heat fan, I thought he'd be a great two way star, he showed flashes but he was definitely a failure. What a shame...
He is currently a stud with the blazers averaging about 12 ppg rn winslow could have a chauncey billups type of a career when he skyrockets his stats later on. Billups revived his career at the same age as winslow it's a high possibility
12ppg isn’t a stud. That’s a bust, roleplayer.
@@VENENOSEASON well it's your opinion then i won't judge you. like i said we may say things are true or not. He averaged less than 8 ppg when he was with the Grizzlies and the LA clippers he didn't fit his playstyle with them he is a playmaking defender the issue it's he is a injury prone player and his shooting hasn't improved lately at 26 years old i can agree with you that he is a bust but again after the trade he is finally getting his minutes almost 31 mpg with portland and he fits into their system so yeah portland will keep him for sure. Lets just wait and see.
@@mattmcplaystationfr3540 Agreed
Well, to be fair, Billups was a good shooter (about 90% FT shooting) and had a high basketball i.q. while Winslow is basically a hustler. He is what he is.
I remember when everyone considered Winslow the steal of the draft. I can't believe he failed as a prospect.
@@AmiriHipHop honestly, I still think Orlando messed up by taking Hezonia over Winslow. Andy said that Winslow would've been better in a faster paced offense. I don't know if Orlando had that at the time with Vuc, but man.
@@TheShapeshifter yeah they had vuc since 2012. As a sixers fan I was kind of upset we traded him, but luckily we got it right with embiid
I'm one of those. I'm so happy the heat drafted him because i thought too many teams passed up on him.
His father played in Spain (in the 80s for Estudiantes) and he was sick dunker...literally springs on his legs.
Watched Justise play in Miami and injuries have just really hurt him and with it, set him back when it comes to progressing. Still see his ceiling being Ron Artest. His defense is second to none and still has age on his side (25) to really changed it around.
You do know Ron Artest was averaging 20 plus points a game at his peak right lol
@@leokizzo3515 defensively sir
Lol shut up Ron Artest could score and was a lot tougher on defense than Winslow ever could be
Artest avg 25 was super lockdown and was in MVP convo at his peak. Winslow won’t sniff that
Totally forgot about him I remember when the heat drafted him and I thought dang he’s going to a good team too.
The only reason it didn’t work out is injuries. He’d easily be a 16 5 and 5 guy at a minimum if he hadn’t been constantly injured
He’s healthy now and not doing that
@@MrRyan-wu4jx Yeah cause the blazers aren’t giving him that role and he lost years of progress getting injured constantly
A big part of why Miami gave up on him was because of a disagreement on injuries. He got hurt in the 2019/20 season, and Heat doctors cleared him to play when he didn't think he was ready yet. He played a few games with the Heat after that injury, but never really looked like himself and ended up out of the rotation before his trade to Memphis. I think *that* is what he was referencing in that quote about being patient, that Memphis waited for him to get to a point where he felt physically confident, while he felt that Miami pushed him onto the court early.
I’ll never forget when the Celtics offered 4 picks for Winslow. Thanks heat for saving us
Dude played great last night, had 4 steals on lebum, forced him into 6 turnovers and held him to minus 5 on the +/-
He’s balling right now for the Blazers right now. Fits right into the scheme.
The craziest thing about Winslow was that Danny Ainge tried to trade 4 first round picks to move up to 9 and draft him, and the hornets said no.
He's killing it in Portland
Yessir Im liking the basic implosion andy
Every team will realize how valuable he is once he starts to get use to Portland’s offense
This comment is currently aging well!
Remember when teams wanted to trade up for him?
I hope he has a long alright career as a good rotational piece, he is on my second favorite team the blazer now so now he has a bigger role since the team is bad so I hope he has a good rest of the season
He was tough during his “ point guard “ stint for the heat. His point forward game is really his game and he could contribute a lot to a team being a ball handler
I feel like he would honestly succeed in Portland , he does have a good skill set and I feel like the Portland offense would be better for him on the court
Awesome video. I wondered what happened to him.
Crazy this was put out 8 days ago. He's killed it for the Blazers the last couple of games.
Great vid…only time will tell if Winslow still has those mistakes in Portland or if he’s even on the roster!
As a Heat fan, I really wanted them to draft Winslow and when they did, I was so excited. I genuinely thought Winslow could be a big part of the Heat's future because of his defense. I thought Winslow's offensive would develop, but it never did. It's sad what happened to his career because the potential was definitely there
For sure 💯💯💯
And now he’s thriving!
Injuries were a big part of his downfall, but I think the heat pulling a tyreke Evans/sacramento move on Winslow hurt his career too. He was very good as a point guard but they didn't keep him there
Nope. He did it to himself by improving his outside shot.
Yea I definitely remember the comparison to Harden 😂. The only thing he had in common with Harden was being left handed and being from Houston where Harden played. I thought of Winslow being more like a shorter, poor mans version of Paul George at best.
Haha 😂
Andy hoops could you please make a video about players in the NBA whose career get drastically better after they turned 30
Does anyone else miss Andy’s “how good was x player really” videos ? 🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️
Do a follow-up video please, cos man, he is balling rn!!!
it's crazy watching this and seeing that the trade to portland has been the best thing for him. Man literally looking so much better
This video really downplayed his injuries. He was never able to develop his game because he was always hurt. He's yet to play a full 82 game season. Those injuries robbed a bit of his athleticism. But when you watch him play, he has a place in the NBA.
Yeah, this creator is full of BS, only in it for the clicks. If I was Justise I would sue this guy for creating fake and damaging stories about him.
I remember back at his second season I totally thought he's gonna be the next D-Wade. Time flies.
I remember him, really all I thought about him was he was going to be a good 3&D wing player. I didn’t really see any star potential.
He’s one of the rare top 10/15 prospects I’ve been very wrong about normally when I like prospects the pan out like PG and Kawhi to name a couple. Hope he can rebound a bit here and find a role
He was great for the clippers before they traded him. Played hard played D well and won us a few games. And we got norman Powell for him. Hes a solid nba player and hope he finds a home 🙏
u should make these into audios on spotify i would play it when im going to bed
i loved justise, i still wear his player shirt often, he was one of my favorite players we had since bron left, lowkey want him back on the team just to be there 😂
Great timing on this. Just as he's showing he can be an extremely effective player with the Trail Blazers.
When portland is not tanking, this is true lol
I’ve been a heat fan all my life so when we drafted this man I was so excited for this man then he just didn’t get better at all 😢
He taught the Heat a valuable lesson. Shooting is the prime skill in the NBA and sometimes mature athletes can dominate without excellent shooting skills in NCAA ball but the NBA is a different breed of animal.
I’m a Duke fan and I genuinely thought he was the future. A high energy superior athlete, 3 and D, could play the 4 in small ball and even played well as a point guard in spurts with the Heat…
I became an NBA fan around the time of LeBron leaving Miami, my favorite team, so I was pretty hyped for Winslow, especially as he was considered the steal of the draft until Booker broke out. I was hoping he would become a Paul George, Kawhi Leonard type of guy for us, but injuries and the age of the team ended any hopes of that. Now, funny enough, he's on ,y second-favorite team, the Blazers, and I hope he can revive his career a bit while we go through a rebuild.
People forget Winslow was an absolute dawg just a few short years ago. That team with him, Wade, and Dion Waiters was legendary
I loved this dude on 2k back in the day. He was always solid
He was meant to be the future of Miami when wade left/retired 😞
He was a great tall PG
i remember being so high on justin winslow and really thought he’d develop into something great, sucks to see how his career has turned out
I think when Winslow says the grizzlies are more “patient” than the heat is just that the grizzlies aren’t trying to put pressure on him to develop into a franchise star like the heat did. Idk if this is the reason but I think it makes sense
Just a suggestion since he is still young, he should develop his jump shoot. Then sign to Raptors. Nick Nurse is a good mentor.
This man could lowkey be perfect for the Warriors. Thrives in the run-n-gun offense, can spot up 3 (for the most part), and be a tough wing defender thats adds size for them. No need for him to create his own shot on their team.
Nope. The Warriors need a big Center who can play 15-20 minutes against Ayton, Jokic, Giannis and Embiid. They don't need a 6'6" who can't shoot. Wiggins and Kuminga is bigger and more athletic than him.
I think Spoelstra is very good at getting the best of his players.
Many players look great in the system; then fall off once they leave. There are obviously other attributes; but Dion, Richardson, Whiteside, Tyler Johnson, James Johnson, Rio - all had their career peaks in Miami, so of these guys were still young when they left too.
I remember him at Duke with Okafor and thinking, this guy cannot fail in the NBA! His motor and physical abilities were extremely good, even though he cannot shoot, his defense and driving to the basketball should make him at least a 10+ scorer with great defense! I still think he can a valuable player as a 8th to 9th playing off the bench! If Wiggins did it, I think Justice can also do it!
From the moment we drafted him I knew he was a mistake still can’t believe we pass on booker for this guy 🤦♂️
Booker Ain’t Shit!!!
@@CaliKidd1001 exactly
I remember a stretch where he had to run PG a couple yrs ago and played pretty good
Injuries for me robbed him. Instead of working out during the summer he was busy rehabbing
I love Winslow! I owned him in Fantasy back in the day, the guy is a stud! Too bad he’s injury prone 😔
The best ability is availability. Lebrun is great for many things, but mainly he is always available and at the top of his game for how big and athletic he is. If Winslow had lebron endurance, he’d be awesome
As a grizzlies fan, I was so optimistic for his return from his hip surgery. Even after he returned and clearly wasn’t to form I still held out on him…. Til we traded him . Still hope he can have some kind of resurgence tho
1:46-1:47- andy , both Wade and Bosch missed games because of injuries so it wasn't just because LeBron left a lot of people forget that
And while losing Lebron hurt heat made moves to bounce back but plans were ruined by Bosh blood clots
It’s crazy to me that Danny Ainge was willing to trade away 4 future picks for this guy
I really was excited for Justice Winslow when he was coming in the league. Never thought he would be a superstar but a star definitely.
He was great in NBA 2k 16. If you keep playing, he turns into a 86 overall.
Funny how he’s playing the best basketball of his career now in Portland. He probably saw this video and used it as motivation to play better
Imagine a team with Booker, Lowry, Butler, and Adebayo in the starting lineup. Crazy what ifs.
Still not enough to win the title.
When guys start having hip issues... man, that's just so tough to come back from in terms of explosiveness.
He seems to be playing pretty well for the Blazers so far...
When my team (the Heat) see an opportunity to get someone to fill a roll they usually are spot on. Winslow knew how we played and he still put on the hat when he was drafted. We gave him 5 seasons. That’s patience. He was just not NBA ready as we thought he was.
Please talk about Murray journey before his 1st all-star game next video. ❤️
Real ones remember the stretch of games when he started at pg and was relatively productive
I love how the Heat tried to draft the next Jimmy Butler and when it didn’t work, we just signed Jimmy Butler anyway.
i still remember when porzingis was drafted, knicks fans were yelling "we want winslow"
He's carving out a nice role for himself on the blazers right now. Just a big wing defender/playmaker type. He gets to play free without being the main playmaker and can operate as a pace pusher and a release valve creator. I think it's a turning of the page for him, as long as he stays healthy
I think the problem could be that the most college players are overhyped. And the NBA playing style is different to the college playing style
He balling on the blazers rn
Hes looking good in portland so far
god watching him, Jahlil Okafor, and Tyus Jones at duke, i don’t know if i’ve ever liked a college team more, maybe the MCW, CJ Miles Syracuse team
As a Heat fan, we really wanted Winslow to succeed. The problem is you can never reach your full potential if you're always injured. Its not surprising Embiid's best year is when he's at his most healthy. I still believe that he could have been a very special player and maybe another team could have been a better fit but I don't see how it would change his career all that much. The Heat is very strict and regimented which means its not for everyone. However, all players new and old learn the fundamentals of the game.
It's sad because when he did play he really showed potential and really looked like he could be an all-star but injuries always derailed this mam's growth
He was the starting PG for Portland for a handful of games this season, actually didn’t do bad… yall are giving this man a lotta of flack, he’s never been great but never bad.
Can you do a tribute video for Udonis Haslem, who retired from the Heat to become a team executive?
As a Duke fan and as a Heat fan, this video broke my heart but you ain’t lie once
Beware of drafting Duke players!
He was solid! The injuries killed him unfortunately
Yo I remember him against the sixers in the playoffs man was a dawg… but idk he’s gonna get HELLA opportunity in Portland so hope he can have a resurgence
I'm a Blazers fan getting heartburn seeing this video title 😭
He's listed at 6'6, but I remember him standing next to Draymond Green when they played the Warriors and he looked a about 2 inches shorter.
Portland fucking LOVES him. All he needed was a chance.
Will they re-sign him after his ankle surgery a few months ago?