Is my black opal a true Australian black opal? how to tell

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024

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  • @susannesamuelsson2930
    @susannesamuelsson2930 Před 2 lety +69

    There's nothing wrong with Ethiopian treated opals if the are advertised and sold as such but when you try to sell them as Australian black opals it's immoral and a great fraud. Thank you Justin for the information and if I ever should have the money to buy a nice opal I will buy one from you!

  • @ellea3344
    @ellea3344 Před 2 lety +18

    While this personally benefits Justin's business, he is doing a GREAT SERVICE for anyone considering a black opal purchase. Much appreciated. I've personally bought black opal from him and it's the best purchase I've ever made. Just ask my wife.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +5

      I am hoping this benefits all people and businesses

  • @subvertedworld
    @subvertedworld Před 2 lety +23

    The thing I love about this channel is that I've been watching so long, I can tell the difference no problem. I know opals so well from the education I've gained here I know exactly what I'm looking at. I can't price them, but my guesses are often close. Sometimes I'm way off, but I know exactly what I'm looking at, and I know when I watched a whole video to get teased by the beauty of that fantastic gem quality Australian opal for all of four seconds, lol. What a ripper!

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +1

      I am so glad you have learnt ❤️

    • @bartoszczechowicz5372
      @bartoszczechowicz5372 Před 2 lety +3

      @@blackopaldirect We all have learned.

    • @timothygilchrist1132
      @timothygilchrist1132 Před 2 lety +1

      Great channel, great information and I can’t wait to start cutting my jars full of Australian opal.

    • @gdheib0430
      @gdheib0430 Před 2 lety +1

      Funny was at a jewelry store in NJ and taught the jeweler about opal while I was there and explained to him in detail the opals that he had...he did have a really bad green Ethiopian opal and he was pretty sad when I told him what it was. Also had a ring opal with a natural crack right through the middle was pretty odd it was set in a ring looking like that.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety

      @@gdheib0430 the chances are the stone may have cracked after setting. Some opals will do that from various places

  • @mygreatescape9617
    @mygreatescape9617 Před 2 lety +11

    I just ordered a pair of black opal stud earrings I can not wait to get them, I'm learning a lot from you thank you kind sir

  • @veganbutcherhackepeter
    @veganbutcherhackepeter Před 2 lety +8

    I have caught opal fever ever since I watched my first video by you. I make jewelry and I want to eventually try my hand on a genuine Australian opal, from raw stone to finished jewelry. Every single time I am watching you I am getting better at looking at the stone you are turning between your fingers and predicting where and how you are going to attack it next. And when I feel that I am ready to "go in" myself, I will definitely buy from you, mate. Thank you for your awesome work and teachings. ❤️

  • @t2fast
    @t2fast Před 2 lety +6

    Way to put this reminder up... I know we have discussed this in length before but it is always good to remind people every now and then to be vigilant.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah Toby I believe it’s important as we have had some Australian sellers even selling this stuff as Australian opal. Everyone needs a reminder or a wake up call

  • @dherman0001
    @dherman0001 Před 2 lety +10

    Hey! Perfect timing. I'm in my mine with a wireless repeater. I put some pictures up. I would buy opals from one source only and that's you mate!

  • @kimconley4679
    @kimconley4679 Před 2 lety +6

    It's so sad that there's so many crooks in this world. So many people get taken advantage of all for greed. Thanks for the information. Hopefully you will save someone from falling for this scam. Keep up the good work!

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +5

      Some sellers don’t even know they are selling treated. They just assume the person selling to them is right

  • @cadmielmergulhao3816
    @cadmielmergulhao3816 Před 2 lety +5

    Thank you so much for this video, Justin! I was looking up and down for ways of telling apart australian from ethiopian opal for a while now and this video was spot on, and very easy to understand! 🙌

  • @nancycurtis7315
    @nancycurtis7315 Před 2 lety +7

    Thanks Justin. That was brilliant. Clear and easy for beginners to understand. No jargon to confuse the issue. Bet you just saved a few headaches from happening.😀👏👍. Greetings from Dimboola.

  • @valeriesollenberger2631
    @valeriesollenberger2631 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you so much! I aspire to buy a nice gem someday, I’m so thankful someone is out there trying to help us not get scammed into buying something we don’t want.

  • @Stanley-xd1gf
    @Stanley-xd1gf Před 2 lety +3

    Good morning Justin, I'm from Brazil; My late father was a miner of precious stones, and also an excellent cutter, like you, he loved chrysoberyls, tourmalines and many others, even extracting aquamarines weighing more than five kilos. He did not become rich, as he had to sell what he extracted to support his family. Interestingly, the car he loved the most was the GM Opal. Thanks for bringing me the best memories of my dad.

  • @michaelbean105
    @michaelbean105 Před 2 lety +6

    Everybody should know that what they're buying might not be what's advertised.
    Justin is a vast source of knowledge through his many years of experience with Australian opal, and these videos are a must know for anyone who wants to ensure they're getting what they're investing in! 😎

  • @t2fast
    @t2fast Před 2 lety +4

    If anyone has a purchase that they are suspect of please feel free to contact me. I am happy to give your opal a a thorough check to guarantee whether it is what it is stated to be. I am sure Justin can back my knowledge and ability to do so.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +4

      Yes for sure Toby you have been around opal long enough to know.

    • @ResortDog
      @ResortDog Před 2 lety +1

      Hiya Toby!

    • @t2fast
      @t2fast Před 2 lety

      @@ResortDog ola!

    • @Rose61234
      @Rose61234 Před rokem

      My husband bought me a black opal necklace in Australia and now since watching this worried its not as it seems. Its a solid stone, blue and green and you can see the pattern on the back. What worried me is that it turns amber when light shines through it and it is indeed see through. Is this a give away that its fake?!

    • @t2fast
      @t2fast Před rokem

      @@Rose61234 even though it shows amber when candled it does not mean it is not a real black opal and as for pattern showing on back it might just be a double sided opal as a lot of black crystal opals are.

  • @josh7702
    @josh7702 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Justin. Your willingness to share your knowledge needs to be commended. Absolute Legend!

  • @obieobrien5883
    @obieobrien5883 Před 2 lety +5

    I am SO glad I have made all my opal purchases from a very reputable company! Yup YOU, Justin!!

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +3

      🙏🙏

    • @obieobrien5883
      @obieobrien5883 Před 2 lety +1

      @@blackopaldirect , Justin, I shared this link on my Facebook page.

    • @obieobrien5883
      @obieobrien5883 Před 2 lety

      @@blackopaldirect , Justin, I shared this link on my Facebook page.

  • @thomassiglin4987
    @thomassiglin4987 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for a very important lesson. I especially liked when you presented a real Australian Black Opal for comparison to the fakes. I would have liked to see examples of the real thing as opposed to the imitations for each difference you pointed out. You are always so informative and I really enjoy your videos. I would love to take a trip to Australia some day, but for now your videos are as close as I can get. Thanks again!

  • @GreggBB
    @GreggBB Před 2 lety

    It is unfortunate that there are some people who are willing to lie, cheat and steal from others in this business and every other business. Thank you for providing all of us very useful information.

  • @victorlaw5828
    @victorlaw5828 Před 2 lety +1

    Just had my second delivery of BOD Opals via Fed Ex. Excellent service with a personal touch. The gems are everything I wished for. Truly beautiful. My wife is a happy lady. If anyone reading this intends to buy opal do not bypass Justin and his 'crew'. They have proven themselves to me as honest and true. Thanks folks, from Ireland.

  • @silverback5033
    @silverback5033 Před 2 lety

    Hi Justin, good information for anyone purchasing opal, I have heard of this problem but wasn’t aware how wide spread the issue is.
    Keep Safe & Keep Rockin

  • @melissaandjosh6210
    @melissaandjosh6210 Před 2 lety

    This is very appreciated. Worse case scenario is when a legit seller decides to manipulate the good will they’ve earned and sell something they know isn’t what they are advertising. Hopefully this will slow that down

  • @kaylajade9478
    @kaylajade9478 Před rokem

    Thank you 🙏🏻 I was sold an “Australian Black Opal” ring from a small crystal business, the stone fell out so I had a peak at the entire thing and noticed it is probably treated Ethiopian Opal. It’s nice to learn about these things though, and I still really love my Opal ring. ❤

  • @comradekahn3163
    @comradekahn3163 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m constantly calling out fraudulent opal across many social media platforms- from synthetic to Ethiopian treated stones it’s a huge issue! I love Australian and Ethiopian opal for different reasons, I cut and sell both and it’s a shame to see the distrust. Much love thanks for sharing!

  • @redbeardreturns3550
    @redbeardreturns3550 Před 2 lety

    Good thing the only site I've checked out for rough opals has been your site.
    I'll be on my opal journey soon.

  • @JuanitaHarrisMissHarrisinParis

    I think after hanging out with you for the last couple of years, I don't know that I'd trust anyone else. But this information is good stuff.

  • @JS-sf2ni
    @JS-sf2ni Před rokem

    I've been gifted som small cabs that aren't properly sized and the tidbits you have provided are amazing and I am sooo greatful for the knowledge shared as I got my 5 for free as a gift of a friend who has an amazing collection for oregon in the USA it's remarkable the color and the way it looks vs some of the lesser valued stones you have shown in example im not sure what value they hold honestly but the ones in this case were re-gifted to my mother who loves opals and its quite neat to learn about them I wish I could meet you in person and go find some new stones and get a better idea of how this all works in hands on type setting but here I am rambling on and on...THANK YOU!! I'll be sure to watch more on this one and try to learn better about the stone and possibly put up some of the findings if I have any one day .....hopeful for the future but this is amazing knowledge

  • @jameslund2658
    @jameslund2658 Před 2 lety

    Justin Mr. Politzer (pops) covered this very subject also. It's very good of you to share knowledge and help people understand matters like this sir.

  • @jessicaallison8981
    @jessicaallison8981 Před 6 měsíci

    I’ve been eyeing a black opal lately but you’re right, it’s so intimidating to buy gems nowadays!

  • @mirrabookagems8504
    @mirrabookagems8504 Před 2 lety +1

    I went to a gem fest in Caboolture and got kicked out because they were selling Ethiopian opal as Aussie opal. This is a really serious problem too many people are trying to shaft everyone for a pay check.. A really great educational video Justin, I hope this has informed many so they don't get shafted in buying opal. Thanks again mate see ya on the next one

  • @mattjackson1279
    @mattjackson1279 Před 2 lety +1

    My friend also got caught. It makes me sad that these auction houses sell this stuff and happily refund your money ,only to sell it again as black opal the next week to someone else.

  • @elchefreedom5063
    @elchefreedom5063 Před 2 lety +3

    I would only buy from you Justin. Come 2022 Tucson time will see you there mate 🤙🏽 to get my very first real opal 🍻

  • @mikkohernborg5291
    @mikkohernborg5291 Před 2 lety +1

    A very handy video for those who want to learn how to tell. Absent some kind of authority to certify dealers, this is probably the next best thing. When it comes to these kinds of money, having fakers around that exploit the market is sadly unavoidable, but the best remedy is an informed consumer base. And that’s where you putting in the work is greatly appreciated!

  • @jackier4698
    @jackier4698 Před 2 lety +1

    Like the old saying, “if it’s too good to be true, it’s not true” I would only buy from Justin, so that I could say “Justin cut this for me!” Great advice ☺️

  • @brandonringstad
    @brandonringstad Před 2 lety +4

    The treated stuff doesn't spark joy like the real Australian does. It looks off

  • @aarond844
    @aarond844 Před 2 lety +1

    Really glad you’ve posted this video. You’ve made it clear that we’ve fallen prey to this sort of scam. We had a ring made from an ‘Australian Black Opal”. I think my jeweler was scammed also honestly. It went sort of clear after coming into contact with water. We spoke to our jeweler and they’re going to work with us. I’ll be sourcing a stone from BOD, which will solve the problem and we’ll have a new setting made.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +1

      Glad you got to clear up the issue. Thats the main point of this video

  • @astro8bit
    @astro8bit Před 2 lety

    There's a saying in coin collecting "Buy the book before the coin". Basically, become as informed about a subject before making a purchase. I've always thought not only to make a better purchase, but to better enjoy all the things that make what you like special.
    You are our book. Your descriptions and explanations... and dancing, help to inform us and appreciate and enjoy Australian opals that much more.

  • @user-pp7vt4ss7x
    @user-pp7vt4ss7x Před 2 lety

    HONESTY ... love that stuff ,love this BlackOpalDirect too!

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +1

      I love it too. I have to love all opal. I just don’t like dishonesty ❤️

  • @Jillloveszumba
    @Jillloveszumba Před 2 lety

    I was just looking at black opal on eBay when they came across your video. I think you saved me a lot of grief ultimately. Thank you so much for making this video and how timely was that? Informative and helpful video. Great work!

  • @justintrussell7739
    @justintrussell7739 Před 2 lety

    Brand new subscriber from Texas. It's really good you're making videos like this. I'm looking to make my first purchase of a black opal, I'm glad I haven't bought one yet

  • @vipercreatchure1766
    @vipercreatchure1766 Před 2 lety

    I love the integrity of this man he is awesome i love his products and the information he shares

  • @Doxymeister
    @Doxymeister Před 2 lety

    Thank you, Justin. Because of your videos, my son is considering purchasing a black opal for my daughter-in-law, and I forward your videos to him. This video ESPECIALLY will end in his in-box, I want my daughter-in-law to have the best. Thanks again!

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety

      Hopefully some money is saved in the process. Glad to help

  • @aikibaby
    @aikibaby Před 2 lety

    I love stones and crystals. They are beautiful gifts from nature and their beauty cannot be faked. Trying to fake any crystal is an insult to nature and it reveals bad character in the person who thinks he can improve on nature. Thank you for explaining this whole thing. From all your videos, I’ve recognized a deeply honest, respectful, and respectable man living with nature in its true and beautiful form. You’re doing a great work.

  • @amberandrews6842
    @amberandrews6842 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank You for the public service announcement!

  • @sandmaker
    @sandmaker Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for the great tips. Fraudulent stones are getting harder and harder to detect. You have the best solution. By from a reputable vendor. Thanks again. Be happy, safe, and healthy. 😷⚒

  • @glennsmurthwaite8270
    @glennsmurthwaite8270 Před 2 lety

    That was a great video Justin and great advice to all keep up the great work. I'm a long time subscriber and watch you all every week cheers, Glenn.

  • @FirehorseCreative
    @FirehorseCreative Před 2 lety

    Sorry I'm tardy. Trouble on the homefront that couldn't wait. Really generous of you to further our eductions not only on gemology, cutting and polishing stones, but also ways to go about avoiding fraud as well! Very grateful to you Justin! Excellent information which can easily be put to good use! 🎼🙌🏼✨💎

  • @saralynn518
    @saralynn518 Před rokem

    I tried writing your store to hopefully message you about a rough piece of "possible" Australian black opal I found online. I was interested as a rockhounder and a love of pretty things. I figured it's got to be a scam. I am not familiar with opals enough. This video helped a lot, but didn't address buying rough specimens. Someone at your store kindly deflected me and said I could pay to have my stone looked at. Well, I haven't bought it because etc lol. If I did buy it, I would be taking it somewhere. It was just a thought to reach out since you're the only and best (!) black opal specialist I watch. I still haven't purchased it. My theory is that if it seems to be too good to be true, it probably is. I dont have good luck like that lol.

  • @thehorde9798
    @thehorde9798 Před 2 lety +1

    Hello Justin. My name is Cameron. And I live in the western US. I'm a bit of a rock fanatic and I have found a very interesting specimen. I would like to know if it is common opal and can't find anyone to get a straight answer from. It is black, orange, and white. It isn't opaque, has conchoidal fractures. I would like to send you a few photos.

  • @michaellindsey1543
    @michaellindsey1543 Před 2 lety

    Oh the mixed feelings! I hate thieves and frauds. As a 25 year street cop I can tell you horror stories all day long of ruined lives and broken dreams caused by non human maggots. ON the other hand I have a super low tolerance for STUPID. Idiots who buy "opals" for pennies on the dollar out of the trunks of cars or worse, online from the likes of feebay, and then whine about getting ripped off are, to me, of little more value than the scum selling them trash. I am very grateful for people like Justin who do everything in their power to be super honest and shed light on the riff raff. . .

  • @larryerkejr6408
    @larryerkejr6408 Před 2 lety

    Well said. Imo the Australian opal has more sand or natural inclusions that Ethiopian seem to never have. Justin is spot on. I cut both and Australian opals colors just show differently.

  • @vincentfortin1923
    @vincentfortin1923 Před 2 lety

    Justin, if I have to buy any kind of opal im gonna go with you 100% because
    1st: you have the most ridiculous beautiful collections to sell.
    2nd: I can feel you doing what you really love in your life.
    3rd: the time you take to explain in detail what you really doing in your video, to your community.
    4th Pretend to be not the best in the industry (unless you are :p)
    5th: Your honest fascination for australian opal and your familly histoiry around this gems
    Justin I have to say sorry but if I want opal I know where and Who asking for!
    Just a G.O.A.T in opal 🔥
    Which you the best for this New 2022 year! 🙏

  • @DRMLbyJeffrey
    @DRMLbyJeffrey Před 2 lety +1

    I have been wanting to do a video on Honeycomb Ethiopian Opal. I love Opals and Justin's Black Opals are my Favorite! Hands down to cut & polish.

  • @ccccarriemchardy9216
    @ccccarriemchardy9216 Před 2 lety +1

    You're right there is a market for everything, its just plain greed and not caring about what it takes to get it.

  • @deg6788
    @deg6788 Před 2 lety +1

    I bought high quality doublet golden earrings from lightning ridge ...they spark like real black opals but arent real cause its layered with natural black potch...but you cant see the difference .

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +3

      That is a doublet with a veneer of real opal. Still not worth what a solid opal is but they should have explained that to you at the point of sale

    • @deg6788
      @deg6788 Před 2 lety

      @@blackopaldirecti knew IT when i bought Them Justin . Wife is superhappy with Them .

  • @xdeductx4424
    @xdeductx4424 Před 2 lety

    Hey Justin, Awesome video as always. Would love to see a video on the stayish mine black opal from ethiopia, its again different to all the rest of the opal from ethiopia

  • @ericyang8474
    @ericyang8474 Před 2 lety

    I am a big fan of Ethiopian Opals due to their immense color and cheaper price, but I've learned the hard way of how easily they cloud up. Once you start seeing it, it can't be reversed. They make great accent stones, since they can be small enough to hide the cloudiness but bright enough to show the rainbow. Rings are poor choices for Ethiopian Opals while pendants (not touching skin) and brooches would be better in my opinion. They would be the perfect gem if they didn't cloud so easily.

  • @m.s.2926
    @m.s.2926 Před 2 lety

    Good info for buyers. I smoked my Ethiopian opal bit while watching the video where you did the same .. cracking fun...

  • @jameswelch1054
    @jameswelch1054 Před 2 lety +1

    Ethiopian opal, is beautiful, and cheap, it is fine if you know what you are buying. However, it is cheaper for a reason.

  • @MrKiar1611
    @MrKiar1611 Před 2 lety

    It's a little bit like jade, people soak the low-graded jade in acid to remove impurity and then coat it with epoxy or resin. You can tell the different under UV and IR iirc.

  • @mariabaker8464
    @mariabaker8464 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Justin for sharing this. Some of us don't know the difference. I didn't know the difference. I know with any opal I wear, I treat it like pearls. It's the last piece I put on and the first thing to take off. I wonder if the same applies to Oregon opals? I have a few rough Oregon opals that I want to turn into wearable pieces of jewelry. Thank you again for all the information you share with us. You have sparked something in my husband. He wants to polish some opals himself. As we, my husband and I, share opal for a birthstone. Many blessings to you and your family. We enjoy your videos and dancing!

  • @sueparras6028
    @sueparras6028 Před 2 lety

    Thanks so much for the heads up. I would love to get a black opal and now I know much better what to look out for. You are a wealth of important knowledge.

  • @annakeye
    @annakeye Před 2 lety +1

    Ralph Lauren, Lacoste, Ralph Lauren. Interesting. Seriously though Justin, good advice and for free. There will always be scammers in this world, so education is the best weapon against such
    low life. The damage they do is huge and is rife in the precious gems and minerals industry. A timely reminder to buy off reputable sellers because you're not just buying a quality gem, you're buying their knowledge and expertise with every purchase.

  • @sobel4511
    @sobel4511 Před 2 lety

    Hi Justin!
    Can you do some YT shorts on pricing stones? Maybe do polls asking what your followers think a stone could be worth?

  • @tonywild1963
    @tonywild1963 Před 2 lety +1

    That's really good advice Justin, there are so many gems that are faked and so difficult to tell. Thank you

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +2

      Some can be really difficult to tell especially for the unsuspecting

  • @nevermind6004
    @nevermind6004 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the vid my man I love the knowledge that you bring to the table the gem industry has had more than enough fraud only honest people can change things

  • @OpalholicsAnonymous
    @OpalholicsAnonymous Před 2 lety +2

    Phosphorescence is a great thing to look for. Only austrailian opal holds that charge. A uv light will make most austrailian opal flourece and after you remove it it will hold a charge for a second.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +1

      Except for black opal

    • @OpalholicsAnonymous
      @OpalholicsAnonymous Před 2 lety

      Manmade opal won't do it, Ethiopian opal won't either. (Some austrailian boulder and andamooka won't glow though)
      But all solid sedimentary austrailian opal do!

    • @OpalholicsAnonymous
      @OpalholicsAnonymous Před 2 lety

      @@blackopaldirect that depends though, I have a lightning ridge skin2skin black crystal that does.
      I also have a couple where the color does but not the potch so it can be harder to see.
      But there is a very little bit of the fluorescence and after glow. depending on the stone and how the color is dispersed.
      If its in the black then it's less likely.
      But if its crystal with black potch back then look at the stone from the side and it will have some glow.
      I just double checked my Australian black cabs,(I'll do more research with my rough later)
      Weirdly one the green color does flourece and its in the black but no other color on it does just the green part.
      And the black and red freeform from The Opal Mills, all the color does.
      I have some nice n1 rubs I'll have to check to.
      I think though, that because most Ethiopian black opal is treated.
      And when you shine a light through looks like black crystal opal can.
      Then the uv test would work, because if other Austrailian Black Crystal opal do glow other then mine.
      With the rarity of black crystal,
      You'd already be skeptical if you can shine a light in.
      But if its florescent
      Then it can only be Australian.
      I don't have many black crystals, so maybe you could see if yours glow?
      Because my handful could be the exception.

    • @OpalholicsAnonymous
      @OpalholicsAnonymous Před 2 lety

      @@blackopaldirect I'm lucky that my suite of Lightning ridge opals with that insane rare rainbow serpant pattern are slightly lighter then the rainbow serpant and testable with UV.(relatively because wow if they were black)
      When I checked the uv on them I almost cried.
      The smallest is 4.5ct the biggest is around 7ct? I can't recall at this moment and my scale broke :(
      I was skeptical a bit at first because there pattern is a bit more even then the serpant. The biggest is an amazing mid-high dome perfect oval! but there is to much that make them have to be natural, not to mention they were bought and cut in the 1980s and I was able to purchase them from a Retired Austrailian opal lapidary for around what he spent then. Along with all the cabs rubs and rough he had in his retirement opal hoard lol.
      Great day I'll never forget it.
      I wish the 10-30cts were rainbow serpant tiger stripes but you can only win soo much lol

    • @ResortDog
      @ResortDog Před 2 lety

      Don't be bringing your UV light to Virgin Valley then. We have the entire spectrum of possible responses, but the white mineral in opal is what does the glowing. 30 a lb opal uranium ore. PS treatment resins GLOW

  • @trance_dance3080
    @trance_dance3080 Před 2 lety

    I think you can remove the additives in the opal with some acetone. GIA was able to remove purple dye by soaking them for several days in acetone. But because acetone with evaporate very quickly I think putting it directly in water for a long soak after the acetone before dying will help keep it from drying to fast and cracking. I don't know if this will work with every additive but I think I'll get some treated ones and experiment with them.

  • @scottpeters5624
    @scottpeters5624 Před 2 lety +1

    Very imformative and intressting,, cheers for the heads up to this scam, thanks Justin

  • @Jackaroo.
    @Jackaroo. Před 2 lety

    I appreciate your insight on this topic! There are lots of shady people trying to sell colored glass or Ethiopian opals as Australian Black Opals. Origins and treatment information are definitely a must when buying gems, as are reputable and trustworthy dealers. If it sounds too good to be true, you're probably being scammed.

  • @kadiejones4097
    @kadiejones4097 Před 2 lety

    I live in the US, and went to a massive liquidation sale a local, highly reputable dealer was having because they are retiring and closing the store. They had BEAUTIFUL opals for 50-70% off, but the rep sadly couldn’t tell me if they were Australian or Ethiopian (she was just volunteering to help the owner with the rush). It wasn’t even labeled on the price tag. Sadly, but unregrettably, I didn’t buy any of them. I was thankful for their honesty.
    Question: Are there certain tints that are more common in Ethiopian opal vs Australian? A number of them had a yellow, almost orangey tint while others were a bright white.

  • @sheilaabayateye1558
    @sheilaabayateye1558 Před 2 lety +2

    In my younger days i was bought an opal ring for my birthday no one told me you shouldnt put it in water now it looks horrible i never wear it. Thanks for sharing Justin.

  • @devolutionist9008
    @devolutionist9008 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you. This was very informative and helpful!

  • @JDitto702
    @JDitto702 Před 2 lety

    Can someone explain to me how a gem like this can be called 2 carats when the back isn’t color and like sand or just other extra material?

  • @philgallagher1
    @philgallagher1 Před 2 lety

    Justin, this is fascinating (and disgusting!). People have always, and will always do anything to try to con others. I am very pleased to see you producing a video like this, to let everybody know what scams are out there.
    Would it be possible for you to show these again, but side by side with the real thing? I think that would make it even clearer if we could look at one of your genuine, exquisite Opals right next to one of the "fakes".
    Just a thought, but if you don't think it would help, at least we can always go to your site and see the "Real McCoy!"
    Keep up the great work, mate!
    Cheers from Liverpool, England!

  • @ResortDog
    @ResortDog Před 2 lety

    Mexican Opal was treated long before Ethiopian opal was found in Shewa. I mine black honeycomb from Virgin Valley (super rare of course) but would never degrade our plume blacks by calling them Ethiopian or Australian, but a lot of dealers cant even mention we exist. We are distinct and they happen to share some color patterns. I had up videos of a blue honeycomb multicolor from the Bonanza mine on youtube and lots of diggers have them in domes if you asked, well most are paranoid of the thieves, we lost over 50 k in wet domed (and he was a master facetor with Allan Eckerts collection of rough he did up) last week here in a burglary. Eyes open.

  • @Jillysmom63
    @Jillysmom63 Před 2 lety +1

    I could tell right away they were not Australian black opal … now a year ago I wouldn’t have but you have really educated me. Don’t all really black opals have black or dark pitch on the backs though? I thought that’s partially what makes them black is that pitch? Anyways they weren’t really shiny and the colors weren’t right. Black o-Al’s are so much more vibrant than what you showed. Anyways thanks for the info!

  • @l2ezzo
    @l2ezzo Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks Justin for this useful information! For me the colours of Ethiopian opal is like unnatural compering to Australian Black opal. If I got money I would buy it definitely from you😉

  • @drfill9210
    @drfill9210 Před 2 lety +1

    Just pointing out that Opal has a molecular structure that includes water. This means that the difference between Australian and Ethiopian Opal is more about how much water rather than if any water is absorbed. It's not impossible for an Aussie black Opal to go slightly cloudy when wet. Also some lightning ridge opals can be treated, I've done it. The difference is there is practically no market for treated lightning ridge opals-as you can just cut them as is without risking stigma... All this said, it's pretty easy to spot a welo Opal... They just look Ethiopian... It's a shame ppl try to dupe the market. I only cut I opals for fun, but should I want to start selling them, I'll have more difficulty because unless you build credibility ppl won't trust your product.

    • @kaneclark7171
      @kaneclark7171 Před 2 lety

      I highly doubt that you have treated lightning Ridge opal. Unless it was a matrix opal. Australian opals can't be smoked or treated to go black. They only have a certain amount of water content and can't absorb more. Only Ethiopian can.

    • @kaneclark7171
      @kaneclark7171 Před 2 lety

      Yes the diffrence in the both stones is water contents but there's also a diffrence in how much water the both opals soak up. Australia opals don't soak in more water or they would crack all the time that's why Ethiopian opals are classed unstable because they absorb water constantly

    • @drfill9210
      @drfill9210 Před 2 lety

      @@kaneclark7171 I understand your skepticism, but I assure you there are lightning ridge opals that can be treated. The idea that LR stones cannot be treated comes from the idea that all LR stones are the same. They are not. Also, the materials they exist in and are mined out of have in some instances been incorrectly identified. Potch for example, is sometimes mudstone. This will easily soak up sugar. Because of the complex process that results in Opal, sometimes the line between matrix and Opal is blurred and I was quite surprised... I'm trained as a soil scientist, so identifying minerology is kinda what I do...

    • @drfill9210
      @drfill9210 Před 2 lety

      @@kaneclark7171 I suggest you read up on le chatliers principle re the absorption of water. It's not a yes/no thing, it's a more/less thing. Out of sheer curiosity I have heated up LR stones to drive all moisture out... In the instances where they haven't exploded, their opacity and weight has changed, strongly indicating a change in water content and structure. Don't worry, for all practical purposes lightning ridge opals don't absorb water, but from a sheer technical perspective, they do.
      Re cloudy opals, it happened to me on a few occasions with LR opals from reputable suppliers (suppliers caught selling incorrectly labelled opals are banned). I thought I had cut too deep into the potch and set the stone aside, only for it to clear up in a day or two. Next time it happens I'll happily take photos and if necessary get the gem identified by a certified professional.
      I don't doubt your expertise, all I'm saying is there are cases that buck the trend.

    • @kaneclark7171
      @kaneclark7171 Před 2 lety

      @@drfill9210 in my opinion any solid crystal,white,black opal from lightning Ridge isn't treatable none of the above can soak in more water content like I said. Matrix opals are a different class of opal. Most opal dealers grade there stones that's why there's very fine grade gems and just standard grade gems. All the very fine grade gems are potch not mudstone. I'm assuming you're talking about all very fine grade opals since you replied on this video Justin only works the best opals. And all the great fine grade opals I've owned from lightning Ridge crystal,black,white can't be treated. And Justin was talking about fine grade opals and smoked treated Ethiopian opals. No less grade matrix or mudstone opals

  • @LCNWA
    @LCNWA Před 2 lety +1

    That is why they can literally can evaporate in front of your eyes! So make sure its stated its been treated b4 you buy & where it comes from? Justin Mexico has fire opal but they are just that colour & doesn't liquify right?

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +1

      Some of Mexican does but on whole its more of a stable opal

    • @LCNWA
      @LCNWA Před 2 lety

      @@blackopaldirect Good cause i have some! whew!

  • @zac1575
    @zac1575 Před 2 lety

    I found a jar full of opal looking stones. Is there anywhere I can send a photo to see what they are?

  • @redeyestones3738
    @redeyestones3738 Před 2 lety

    What's the best way to learn how to evaluate the price of opal?

  • @andrewfrost8866
    @andrewfrost8866 Před 2 lety

    Excellent advise as usual, thank you.

  • @Lordoftenticles
    @Lordoftenticles Před 2 lety +1

    Would love to know where to get some of the equipment you use for cutting and polishing!
    It has been my dream to do this type of work.
    Also, where is the best place to get raw Opal or ordering it from where.
    Would live your expertise advice so I know I won't get well scammed hah
    Also hello from Northern Canada 🇨🇦

  • @sierrahjmartinez6703
    @sierrahjmartinez6703 Před 2 lety +2

    There are alot of people who are big defenders of Ethiopian opals when someone says australian are the best. Lol they hate hearing it and get nasty. Its like really why does it bother you that some people prefer Australian? Its a preference. Then they say Australian opals aren't that nice they are hydrophane opals too blah blah blah. Usually its the scammers that try to say they're Ethiopian opals are better than Australian opals. I've been scammed by these kinda sellers. I do try to buy from Australian sellers....never ever will buy from India or China or Thailand. Honestly they will send a piece of river rock instead. And good luck getting your money back. They just disappear even shut down their shops.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +3

      This can happen. But Ethiopian opal is beautiful and has its place. It’s the misrepresentation that is the problem

  • @kimbershulme
    @kimbershulme Před 2 lety

    Hey Justin, I have just bought my 2nd genuine opal from you with a little request. Eekk... soooo excited. I know I will be betting a 100% real Australian opal cut by a Master.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +1

      Haha and a very nice gem you bought. I already polished the back on it for you and it will be sent today instead of tomorrow 🙏❤️

    • @kimbershulme
      @kimbershulme Před 2 lety

      @@blackopaldirect soooo excited.

  • @grimfandango76
    @grimfandango76 Před 2 lety

    Justin I have seen honey comb from the ridge, a miner and cutter friend of mine, pattern isnt as distinct as welo opal but it is honey comb pattern.

  • @jeremyjames1289
    @jeremyjames1289 Před 2 lety

    Could you please get in touch with me? I want to do an opal "stackable" ring for my wife. I've watched you for years and you are the only one I trust.

  • @grantivers9091
    @grantivers9091 Před 2 lety

    Chocolate opal cracks got a big push back. As nice as it is you can tell it's not black opal..comes from a place 4 times bigger than the grand canon. And only feet from the surface..

  • @vaughnwarren8446
    @vaughnwarren8446 Před rokem

    Thank you - great overview and very informative.

  • @judyfrey1344
    @judyfrey1344 Před 2 lety

    You are the only person I would buy an Opal from.

  • @Quickened1
    @Quickened1 Před 2 lety

    Reminds me of when cubic zirconia first hit the market. People were getting taken advantage of all the time...

  • @Penfold8
    @Penfold8 Před 2 lety +1

    I wonder if you couldn't disolve the oil that leached into the opal with a solvent like acetone or something else. I know this would run the risk of killing the color completely, but if it's brown from human oils it probably is already not worth anything at that point.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah I haven’t tried that yet. But I would say each opal will be case by case.

    • @laurareutter6928
      @laurareutter6928 Před 2 lety

      Oil is soluble in mineral spirits, turpentine, toluene, xylene (latter two are very toxic, avoid!). Acetone is not a good solvent for wax and oils.

  • @janehonda4073
    @janehonda4073 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for this video, Justin! I was waiting for it.
    2:09 Do you know who should I look for to treat Ethiopian opal, so that it actually doesn't take on water?

  • @HAlC-up4hm
    @HAlC-up4hm Před 2 lety +1

    Is there a list of dealers or a certification process for dealers and a registry of sorts for real Australian opal? If not, I think this is a great time to start up a guild like organization so people can find a reputable dealer for the type of opal they're looking for. I'd rather pay a bit more for something I can trust has the backing of an official certification process than risk it, especially since lots of us buy online from other countries.

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety

      Their isn't but as I said to avoid that just buy from reputable dealers

  • @calebh6115
    @calebh6115 Před 2 lety

    One other trick! If you use a blacklight Australian opal is phosphorescent (turns green and stays lit for a few seconds after turning off the light) while Ethiopian does not light up. Right? I've always used that 😊

    • @blackopaldirect
      @blackopaldirect  Před 2 lety

      Except it doesn't work on Lighting Ridge opal

    • @calebh6115
      @calebh6115 Před 2 lety

      @@blackopaldirect really? That would surprise me. I've bought black opal from Riley Gunn a really well known opal dealer and it is all phosphorescent. I'm a little confused!

  • @MarylouNewdigate
    @MarylouNewdigate Před 2 lety

    I saw a local gem stone dealer here in SA, selling smoked black welo opal pretending it was the valuable kind and I called him out. I won't trust anything he sells now...

  • @jameslund2658
    @jameslund2658 Před 2 lety

    Justin I have a peice that has potch honey comb pattern in it. Mr. Politzer thought it was cracks and it appears to be Australian crystal opal. I'm now confused about it. It doesn't go clear in water.

  • @iseeyou736
    @iseeyou736 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for trying to help people know how to buy opals. It's like everything we purchase, buyer beware

  • @lloydbellis7360
    @lloydbellis7360 Před 2 lety +1

    Great info, thank you

  • @dherman0001
    @dherman0001 Před 2 lety +1

    Justin, have you ever been scammed and could you talk about it in a video?