What If Napoleon Beat Britain? | Alternate History
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- What if Napoleon's Continental System succeeded in isolating the British Empire from the European continent, forcing them to surrender the war effort, putting an end to the centuries long Franco-British wars, thus leading Napoleon to never invade Russia, and ultimately conquer Europe?
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Plz make a ''What if Napoleon invaded the Ottoman Empire?'' video
Monsieur Z I wonder what it will be?!
What if every continent became a country? And what would history look like to make that happen?
"Unfortunately for France, Britain does exist"
French history in one sentence
France would have become a global superpower if Britain didn't exist
Change my mind
The only reason why we hate the French is because they hate us for preventing them & their stupid language from taking over the world.
And it's all Napoleon's fault that Europeans drive on the wrong side of the road.
@@sudthskap Oh right the Normans and all that shit
Okay edit
If the Royal Navy didn't exist or was weaker the French would have conqurored the world. Oh wait there's Spain
Yeah uh even without the English France is fucked
I feel cheated. It's not a "Napoleon beats Britain" timeline. It's "Napoleon causes a 100 years cold war and never beats Britain"
@@Winston.S.Churchill He could have, this video was way too generous to Britain.
Even in our timeline Britain at the hight of its power almost fell to Germany alone, so if the entirety of mainland Europe worked together in coordination im 100% sure britian would fall.
@@iwasanacciident WW2 was not the height of Britain's power - that essentially ended by 1900, with WW1 crippling the UK.
Could the UK have fallen to Germany? Obviously debatable. Germany was on borrowed time and really needed to win as quick as possible due to Germany's economy. If Germany was able to invade Britain during operation Sealion, it would have probably ended in a heavy German defeated.
As for the Napoleonic wars? Keep in mind countries like Russia opened up trade with the UK again because the continental system screwed over their economy.
@@iwasanacciident Britain was in its height around 1870
@@Winston.S.Churchill who cares? The point of alternate history is to flip off reality and go on with what we wished happened, that's the entertainment value of it.
It's not realistic but it is fun.
@@iwasanacciident and how exactly was Napoleon supposed to get his army across the channel, especially after Trafalgar?
What if Churchill was not ousted after Ww2, and Britain tried to maintain it's Empire instead of scaling down?
please do!
@@Anteetum especially interesting here would be that Britain refuses to return Hong Kong to China. Falklands War but Bigger
Urge to annex Empire rising....
Maybe he'd even get support from the US for OPERATION UNTHINKABLE.
He would die in 1965 still though that's 20 years
What if Gustavus Adolphus survived the 30 Years’ War?
Well last time someone tried doing this scenario, space time was distorted and a West Virginian coal town was displaced into Germany.
nice
@@richardstarkey2247 I see what you did there...
Who the hell is Gustavus Adolphus, obviously not British, so has no place in Alternate History whoever he is.
John Eric Edwards Ah yes classic British Xhenophobia
The volume on your videos is super quiet consistently. Please boost your gain! I love your videos!
Agreed
it's super annoying
I am a simple man. I see a Monsieur Z video in my notification feed, I click on it.
I don't think the Europeans would just let Britain have the seas. They would hurry reinventing ships, sailing and military techniques to save their colonies and trade.
Also, why does Russia not have Alaska in this timeline? They just give up because Europe helps them industrialise? I can see them colonising Alaska and reaching the US, creating a new, British-free trade route and becoming vastly more important in European economy. Also, assuming Europe just gives up in the seas, Alaska is a direction for all of them to colonise, as well as southern Asia.
This video, and channel in general, is massively pro-British-biased.
There is no way under such a scenario that a united European navy wouldn't have crushed the British at sea and eventually invaded somewhere in the 1830s if not earlier. A 1940s Britain could witstand a large European coalition alone for almost 2 years cause by that point it was an industrial superpower with an empire of more than 400 million people to draw upon (and Russia was never part of the coalition fighting them in ww2... ) - in this scenario, Britain's empire barely had more than a tenth the population of its ww2 one, with the new world being extremely sparsely populated, (the whole of British North America still had less than 2 million residents in the 1810s if I'm not mistaken) AND would be at war with all of Europe plus embargoed by Russia.
Chances are after the first few losses at sea there would be a Scottish revolution, and then with the French landing in Dover the whole empire would be destroyed and split into smaller nations without colonies - France might struggle to retain control over Europe, especially after Napoleon dies, but there's literally no way for an early 1800s Britain to resist a united European empire or still succeed to colonise all of India as this video assumes - it's just British bias at its finest...
@@Vict0r1984 Bri'ish ?!
@Vict0r1984 i wish someone would do this scenario justice 😔
@@Vict0r1984I wouldn't say that to be honest. The British admiralty was extremely skilled. As well as this, have you heard of the "two power standard." We had to be more powerful then the last two biggest navies combined. After we destroyed the fleets at Trafalgar it was complete overkill. A spread out poorly managed and probably reluctant naval attack with all of Europe together would just result in no more ships for the rest.
@@theholydoggo6378 Well well well, what have we here? Another pityfull British peasant miserably failing at history and pure logic? Listen here you patethic stain of piss. To start of your demise, the two power standard was only invented in 1908, but I should have anticipated on the stupidity of your people to always mix chauvinism with history. Secondly, although the British obviously had supreme naval superiority around the 1800’s, do you really- in the unending stupidity of your ant sized brain- believe that in an alternate timeline were Napoleon held on an empire that controlled the whole of Europe in an continental alliance, Britain would have survived? Napoleon would have command of the surviving French, Spanish, Dutch, Austrian, Neapolitan, Danish, Prussian, Russian, maybe even the Portugese and Swedish fleets. That alone would have been enough to blast Britain to pieces. There’s only so much that can be done with skill, at the end of the day, sheer numbers would have won Napoleon the naval engagement if carried out correctly, and believe me, with such an position, he would have carried it out well. And beyond that, o I see, the patethic peasant has, in the almost soothing simplicity of his mind, totally and very conveniently forgotten that ships don’t just EXCIST, they are MADE, out of WOOD, SAILCLOTH, paid with MONEY. And what would Napoleon have had in this timeline? An ENTIRE CONTINENT worth of wood, sailcloth, money, and thus the capability to produce ships at a pace that the British could only dream of.
Say “bye bye” to naval superiority little insect.
Now, please dispose me of your presence, or next time it will get quite messy, little cockroach. Next time try elevating yourself at least with the tiniest bit of historical sense and common knowledge about the simple laws of ships, economy, and naval superiority.
Be gone now.
Your audio is so quiet compared to normal youtube audio levels, really needs a fix.
I'll figure something out. 👍
Indeed!
@@MonsieurDeanquestion: what the hell happened to the president Ted Kaczynski video?
Monsieur Z 6 months later you still haven’t fixed it
@@MonsieurDean What if Europe never existed.
Here’s an idea, what if the Royalists relocated to America during the English Civil War
King George Washington first of his name, king of the united states of the kingdom of America. scourge of the British, crosser of the Delaware river, and the enemy of all of the Hessians.
Basically imagine if the UK and USA switched places
@@MrToymaster1 you mean modern day, but then again Britannia will most likely never rise.
@almightyinferno yes I know what the English civil war is, I was just making a dumb joke. Do understand what comedy is, you probably do but it seems not at this specific moment.
@@tntsummers926 didn't he start the War against the French in North America while serving in the British Colonial Army.
Once he'd used the British to get rid of the French all along the Mississippi to free the Colonies for Westward expansion Washington became a turncoat making war against the British while making friends with the French, the arch enemies of all English-speaking peoples.
What if Tonga was still an empire. Is it Tonga time? I think it's Tonga time
What if futurism replaced fascism
I second this.
Isn't futurism a byproduct of Fascism? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Jake Johnsen, the opposite.
@@alessandromasnada4588 didn't Mussolini hijack the futurists the same way Hitler co-opted topics and rhetoric from more moderate right-wing and Christian movements?
@@jakejohnsen8626 how did you think futurism was a byproduct of fascism? Even tho Nazi Germans made a lot of technological improvements they were mostly characterized by their national policy of gas chambers, detention camps ,bigotry and Aryan rhetoric lol
what I'm seeing here is, if Britain was more Isolated it effectively gains influence everywhere else.
He's just wrong - the rest of the empire was very sparsely populated back then. If France effectively maintained control of Europe, it would've only been a matter of time till a combined-built French-Dutch-Prussian-Spanish fleet annihilates the British one, takes over their colonies, lands troops in Britain, occupies London, helps the Welsh, Irish and Scottish gain independence and ultimately destroys the whole empire by the late 1830s at the latest.
If Britain already had its 1900s colonial empire to draw upon back in the early 1800s this vid would've been correct, but it's colonial possessions were actually far fewer and more sparsely populated back then, so, much like France during Napoleon's last year in power, Britain would stand no chance against a united European coalition fighting them...
@@Vict0r1984 the Spanish were a collapsing and failing empire, the Prussians had barely any expertise with navy and didn’t have much of an interest in navy and the French and Dutch navy couldn’t beat the British navy
@@skygge1006 @Skygge All of them combined with decades of shipbuilding would've easily eventually beaten the vastly outnumbered British fleet, especially as the French, Dutch and Danish could've easily passed expertise to the Prussians and financed the Spanish... The Royal navy had historically lost sea battles to both the Dutch and the French (even as recently as the Napoleonic wars - see the battle of Grand Port for example) so the idea that the British would still defeat a combined European fleet with over 20 years of shipbuilding on its hands (with far more shipyards/ports with greater manpower) and while starved of all of its trade with Europe is just ludicrous...
@@Vict0r1984 that’s what I’m saying it would take decades and in the coming decades the British would expand their empire allowing for them to have a vast population and large amounts of resources to pull on so by that point that Europe could fight them they would stand a good chance. Obviously the British would eventually fall but they would be able to put up a good fight and have a small chance of winning possibly even go to america a few decades later when the European start to threaten them with a equally powerful navy and at that point the Americans were past their hate for Britain (let’s say they have equal navies by the 1840s-1860s some point there) then the Americans may be willing to provide some help which is about Britain’s only chance and that is a long shot.
@@skygge1006 The British wouldn't be able to expand their empire if France constantly gave support to native kingdoms in places like India. Tipu Sultan is a great example.
What if France and the UK won the Suez crisis
I love your newest video! XD
By the way, can you please make a video on this list?
1. What if Korean Empire survived?
2. What if USA won the Vietnam War?
3. What if Goguryeo conquered China?
4. What if Axis won Battle of El Alamein?
5. What if General MacArthur launch a nuclear bombs to China?
6. What if Korea became fascist?
7. What if Germany Destroy the USSR?
8. What if USA became fascist?
9. What if Soviet won the Afghan war?
10. What if Soviet launch the nuclear missile in China in 1969?
Maybe 1, 2 & 8.
Monsieur Z What about 4 and 5?
@@MonsieurDean What if Japan became Christian?
@@MonsieurDean What if Jeb Bush won in 2016?
@@patrickweber8750 5 would be the best one to do. No Cold War, all our enemies nuked before they could develop weapons to hit us back.
Nice video,keep up the great work
Nice video mate, big fan from the UK.
wouldn't mind seeing a part two to this
What if Monsieur Z made audio great again?
I cannot hear you without turning off the fan I have near me to not sweat copiously.
And OF COURSE I have volume at 100% on both youtube and pc, and watched other videos regularly.
Yours, man, I cannot catch a whole phrase without having the speaker at 10 cm from my ears.
Great video
Almost like Code Geass history
The problem with a pro Europe policy is that the British Navy controls the seas. Before rail, transportation across land is brutally expensive. You need to be able to move product up and down rivers to the coast to really have a pan European economy. Same issue with invading Portugal. Having to move supplies from France and further into Europe and slog them over Spain [even without opposition] is brutal hard. Look what happened in Russia, France had issues even before general Mud and general Winter made an appearance.
Please make videos about this
What if Japan never colonized Korea or Taiwan?
Evan Pangaribuan That will be great!
Mark A. I believe he will.
This video is cursed, I'm going to have nightmares for the next decade. Thanks 🙏
What if Russia kept Alaska, then lost it to Japan in the Russo Japanese war?
Oof. That's gonna be a doozy.
What if the US kept Liberia and made it a state at the same time as Hawaii and Alaska?
literally nothing (sorry for the necro)
Minor nitpick Z but could you make the audio just a tad louder, ssems quiet to me. But otherwise great video^^
Hey Monsieur Z, love the video but just a heads up, I can barely hear you. May want to invest in a new mic.
But what if?: *Japan was reduced to 1918 Borders after ww2?*
If Napoleon beat Britain, he probably wouldn’t be called short
You know i just havet this concept in my mind for a period:
What if The British east Indies declared independence against Britain? Instead of Britain nationalizing the company and forming the British Raj, this company declare independence...well now i dont know if they could win this war of independence or if this scenario is even plausible but its fun to theories.
That would be cool an actual cyberpunk corporate state except in 1700ish.
What if Japan Keep a large Chunk of the Pacific after WW2 and after losing to the Americans
good video
Could you perhaps increase the volume of your speaking on your videos? I can barely hear anything with my phone.
How would Industrialization affect the Napoleonic Federation, since not only would industrialization increase nationalism, but it would also shift the economic balance of power in Europe to central Europe
Monsieur Z, pls do a sequel to this video
When you have an EAS test at 11:25 and history at 11:30
Cool video, you should link your bitchute in the description lol, perhaps more people will join you there if they have the option
That's a good point.
Great video but, why is it so quiet or muffled [for me at least].
The thumbnail would have been better if it did utilize the imperial eagle or the bees since there are the symbols of the french empire.
The heraldic lily was the symbol of the french royalty.
Dear Monsieur Z, I wish the video called What if the Cold War heated up should be remake too. Because during that time South Korea has a lot of highly skilled soldier and generals. They armed with anti communism and highly experienced during the Korean War and Vietnam war. Also, they led by the fully anti-communist president Park Chung hee. They won’t let the communist invader step on the single land. Imagine that South Korea and the USA strikes back against North Korea’s provoke in DMZ and united the Korean peninsula.
During that time South Korea was a barely-developed close to 3rd world country which would've barely matterred in the grand scheme of things... Also, South Korea was getting destroyed by North Korea in the korean war just a few decades prior until America rescued it (remember retreating all the way to the Busan perimeter?), so I find it very unlikely they "won't let the communist invader step on single land". Chances are, based on your comment and name, that you're just a biased South Korean nationalist who greatly overestimates the strength of his nation during the Park Chung Hee dictatorship...
I missed the part of the video where Napoleon beat Britain.
Napoleon: this just works!
Can the volume be raised, please?
You should collaborate with alternative history hub in a video like for this to happen!
You should have talked more about South America, as we know, Portugal was a great economic partner to Britain, and as so Napoleon invades Portugal and the Royal Family flees to Brazil, everything is ok until now, however how Napoleon is not defeated, the Royal Family never returns to Portugal, so there is no Liberal Revolution of Porto and Brazil never becomes independent with D. Pedro I, D. Pedro I never marries Maria Leopoldina of Austria so there is no D. Pedro II, because of the British pressure and alliance, the Kingdom of Brazil would probably ban slavery very earlier, at least until 1850, and without the slavery system, the industry would develop much faster, making Brazil a potential regional power and very important ally to Britain in the Americas.
South America might be a much bigger player on the global stage as its own power. Rivalry between the US and Brazil ;P
Please increase your vour videos volume. Even my Bluetooth speaker can barely produce enough sound to listen to.
So do you and alternate history hub just agree to work on the same subject half the time?
How do you make your maps?
wouldn't the hereditary house of Bonaparte be a contradiction to the Napoleonic code?
What if the Western Allies reached Berlin first before the Soviet Union?
They chose not to
Dear
Monsieur Z,
When you display the world map of the scenario, would it be possible for you to list the relevant year, period of years, or maybe even date (when relevant, what relevant) in the corner?
It makes it easier for me to follow your narrative, and focus broadly on contemplating the variables you open (and I usually play games on my other screen while watching, and it is a bit annoying to have to go back, because I lost track of the timeline). I would appreciate this greatly.
Keep up the excellent work!
Even if I at times disagree with your conclusions, then your path to these conclusions always adds something to my own perspective and analysis.
Why is the audio in all of your videos so quiet
can u do what if eastern roman empire capital was at alexandria or jerusalem and they keept all their efforts to maintain that cities and not constantinople?
An interesting idea from an Alt. History website, what if the Byzantine Empire converted to Islam when the latter had started in the 600s?
This is a way back alternate history. What if Africa and Eurasia werent physically connected?
Either middle east being island or just partially under water.
How big of an impact would it have on human migration etc.
That would require an analysis of the out of Africa theory, as well as a specific point of divergence to account for continental drift.
Monsieur Z could do a what if Atlantis was a real thing and island on earth?
Alright, did you see alternate history hub's latest video and just take that idea?
Sound seems very low on this vid
*me playing summertime saga* wait that’s not a massage
8:20 map:
I don't see why sweden wouldn't keep Finland if the french never started the continental system (as russia gained finland in their war to force sweden into the system)
But what if?: *The Boers settled in Argentina instead of South Africa?*
What if the 1848 Hungarian Revolution succeeded?
What if Jashua Norton had gained more power and support and became emperor of the US
Your sound levels are way too low.
I have not been able to find any alternate history videos on the matter, I think this scenario needs the Monsieur Z treatment.
What if France never halted the Saar Offensive and pushed into the Rhine in 1939?
Since the majority of the German Army and Luftwaffe were in Poland at the outbreak of war, France and Britain had essentially every advantage on the Western Front, they just neglected their alliance with Poland and left them to their fate when they could have potentially intervened while the Wehrmacht was still engaged in Poland. General Jodl at the Nuremburg Trials had explained that had France and the British pushed into Germany during this time, Germany would have lost.
This world would make a good video game setting
7:18 Borneo, Phillipines, Central America, Caribbean, Russian Alaska, Java, Greenland and Iceland, and lastly Guyana decided to join British
Oh yeah also Hawaii
I don’t know if I agree with how a Bonapartist europe would come to be since Napoleon and all of the French empire was known to amend some of his beliefs such as political autonomy for all peoples if it made room for political gain
What if the kaiserlishe marine was not disolved post ww1
What if belgium joined the central powers
What if Germany never United?
East germany would callapse
@@Slqepy I mean under Bismarck
What if all of the events that happened in 2012(the movie)actually happened in 2012?
Welcome to 2020
Historically When The War 1812 happened the British could easily conquered America ak the United States but at the time they were fighting the point so basically be happy that Napoleon was doing this his thing
What if Hawaii remained a kingdom
What if Hawaii's royal family lived and became the first family of the US
bro... does nobody want to do "What if Spain Won the American-Spanish War" and all that stuff with Spain ??
*Sighs in Emperor
Damn this video was almost a better timeline, and then you mentioned no Germany
I mean no Nazis so that might be a plus
What if Saladin lived longer
What if Richard the Lionheart lived longer
What if the Syskes-Picot never happened
What if the British lost at Plassey, 1757
Video 2!
audio is too low
what if cecil rhodes became british pm
African Genocide, or subjugation.
sounds based and redpilled
What if Britain won the Independence war?
What if Stalin didn't die from his stroke
What if the Japanese won the battle of Attu?
The surviving Japanese starve on Attu until another assault wipes them out. Maybe the IJN is drawn into battle near Alaska, maybe not. Regardless Japan wouldn't have the logistical capability to use the position effectively. The US eventually gets it back and the war inevitably goes west, nothing significant changing.
*Cries in wine
Do what if portuguese empire stayed intact
I dont think germany would live under napoleon for long at least after his death the empire would fall
What if the German Revolution of 1848 suceeded?
Turn up your audio!
Victoire est à nous!
Lol "Unfortunately for France, BRITAIN EXISTS RULE BRITANNIA"
Everyone hates you
What if egypt's rebellion from the ottomans succeeded
What if the Business Fascist plot of the 30s succeeded?
What's with this video being so quiet
Do what if I pooped my pants (I did!)
What if Japan became a republic after ww2. Or what if the kasier came back to power in Germany after ww2?
good ending
The title is wrong. It is a hypothetical question and should be as follows : What if Napolean HAD beaten Britain ?
What if the African Slave Trade did not happen? You should do that.
What if the Cold War never happened?