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07. Why is Tarot de Marseille Cool?
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Great stuff! Very interesting. You show so many aspects to this classic pack of cards! From one reader to another, best to you on your Tarot journey! Best - Vincent
Thank you so much, you're so kind! :)
I'm obsessed with your Marseille tarot videos lol.
Weee, that's awesome! :D :D :D
Wolf Of Coins 👍😁😁😁☀
I also thought they where ugly, but when a Marseille deck was on sale I bought a copy, AND FELL IN LOVE WITH THE DECK ♡ now they are just so beautiful. marseille is the deck who teach us to truly read the symbol, colors, direction, shapes and more and I just love the pips. Intuitive reading became something out of this world with this deck and system.
Yes, it is so much different than reading with memorized meanings of the cards, isn't it? And yes, they are all beautiful!
4:35 The four animals represent the 4 Fixed signs/Seasons: Human/Angel (Aquarius-Winter), Eagle/Phoenix (Scorpio-Fall), Lion (Leo-Summer), and Bull (Taurus-Spring). And they naturally also represent their respective elements and corresponding suit.
Yes, that's certainly one of the interpretations :)
@@wolfofcoins That is the one Alejandro mentions
I'm starting to find that the Marseilles decks are more elegant and definitely more subtle. The original RWS is still pretty subtle, compared to most of the more recent RWS creations. Anyway, I'm really falling in love with the Marseilles. Thanks for your videos.
Thank you, Anne! I love the minimalistic charm of the Tarot de Marseille!
I am obsessed with my marseille deck. By far my favorite. Thank you for these great videos. Here you read the stories, not some one else's. ie patriach
Yes, the stories are the most important part for me. Once I see a thread, I just follow it, like Theseus in the Labyrinth :)
Thank you for making this video. I love the Marcelli deck myself and the 1jj Swiss, I've been reading the second deck for since I was 22. I'm older now, but fascinated by the art, imagery and connections. I've learned a lot from you today, so thankyou!
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Thank you so much! I don't own the 1 JJ Swiss deck, but I love that it has the Juno card, my favorite Greco-Roman goddess! 😊
You make the best videos on Tarot De Marseille. ✌
Thank you so much, I'm honored!!
I’ve watched a number of tarot related videos on CZcams before, but I have never subscribed to a tarot channel before, except for today. This video was really great, I definitely want to see more!
Thank you so much, it's so nice to hear! I have a whole Tarot de Marseille playlist, maybe you'll find something of interest there :)
@@wolfofcoins Thank you! I will definitely check it out.
Wow this cards are so beautiful and opened my mind through your camera fascinating ❤️
I was looking for a pleasing marseille deck and stumbled upon your mamanmiyuki mini deck video and was immediately sold! To the deck and your channel that is :-)
Thank you so much! :) Oh yes, the Mamanmiyuki is awesome
Thank you for this video. It's such a great overview of TDM!
I really appreciate your videos on Marseille decks! So very informative and it gives the boost I need. Clearly, I have a lot to learn, and videos like this inspire me to learn more. Thank you so much for sharing. :)
Thank you so much! I'm so fascinated by Tarot de Marseille, that I wish to share it with others! :) If I'm being successful in encouraging people to use TdM, then I'm happy! ^__^
You are indeed being successful! I am enthused to learn more! :) I was gifted a Marseille style deck (published in the 70s if I remember correctly) by my friend's mother. It is very special to me and I need to learn how to use it to properly and honour the Marseille system. :)
Oh, how lovely! You lift my hear! :)
Thank you so much for your videos!!!!! This is giving me hope in learning Marseille. I can't read books, they make me sleepy so ur videos are my saviour!!❤️❤️❤️ Thank you again!! Sending you more power!!!
Thank you so much! :) If you like learning from videos, you might be interested in my Practical Marseille course, it's available for purchase :)
Some info here: czcams.com/video/TjquNgDKqn8/video.html
You made me fall in love with this system. Now it’s my favorite 😝
So glad to hear that! :)
Wolf Of Coins love your channel by the way! I’m learning so much! Xoxo
@@taniahajali6697 Thank you so much!
I enjoyed this video very-very much, I am just starting working with Marseille style decks, and there were some great pointers in your video, thank you!
Yay, I'm glad I could help! I hope you'll enjoy your Marseille adventure! :)
I am so glad I found you here and on IG. I've always been a RWS girl but for a while now I've felt a pull towards TdM. But wasn't sure where to start. Your videos are very informative. Thank you.
Good luck on your journey! :)
This was interesting.I think the tarot is beautiful in this form. I enjoy this alot. I misplaced or lost one and must purchase again. I think I will start looing at eyes and positioning more.I really like the way you brought things out.Good looking out and through a different lens. 💘 😃
Thank you! Yes, the traditional tarot has a lot of minimalistic charm! ❤️ I hope you get a lovely deck for yourself! 😊
Great video with a great vision of the lady of the Lake };^) Thank you!!!
What a helpful video, it helps me to feel a little less intimidated by those non-scenic pips and to better appreciate the beauty of the Marseille deck’s “ugliness” and the creative possibilities it offers for reading and for developing intuitive skills. 😊
I'm happy you find it helpful! I know these are things that I'd like to hear when I was starting with TdM! :)
I tried Marseille a long time ago. Got intimidated but I love the beauty of these decks and have continue to collect. I really find your video a helpful reference and it is very encouraging. Thank you.
I know the feeling! I felt intimidated at first as well! But as I said, there's no right or wrong here, so is pretty liberating to try this other system :)
All the best to you!
Awesome video. Thank u so much for all the amazing examples. 😃
My pleasure :)
The actual concept of a distinctive 'Tarot de Marseilles' is no older than the 1930s-40s, it was basically a 'brand' created for marketing by the Grimaud company. Likewise with the TdM 'systems' which were created by Joseph Maxwell and Paul Marteau in the 20th century. My first 'imprinting' of Tarot in the 1970s was via encountering TdM and Piedmontese Tarocchi. Timeless designs but essentially modern recreations, like the Camoin and other innovative variants more recently.
I'd also add that the obsessive interpretations of minor details in TdM is too literal- minded an exegesis for my tastes...it seems to confuse the essential symbolic content with arbitrary decorative and accidental elements. After all the colour schemes were really just dictated by the cheap production methods of pochoir stencilling. Having said that, of course intuition can be sparked by any detail of an image and that's entirely valid as part of the personal divination process...
I'm always of the opinion that it's good to read the way that works for you, but it is not that easy to find your way, so we try, we experiment and if we don't give up, we can arrive at a technique that is for us - at least for now, because we are ever changing creatures :)
What is you preferred way of reading?
@@wolfofcoins Some refer, with some justification to TdM as the 'Tarot de Milan'!(And Lyons rather than Marseilles was the major hub of French Tarot manufacture in the 17th-18th century.) Agreed that Tarot cartomancy is a decidedly delicate art. I just use a simple 3 card spread most days - (I find too many cards makes it harder for me to pick up the 'signal')...I also think that the best readings combine pure intuitive insight with an informed sensitivity to traditional symbolic meanings. Etteilla's 18th century Piedmontese cartomancer sources still inform a lot of the general consensus re. the cards' divinatory meanings.
The modish notion nowadays that one should 'throw away the books' and read one's own intuitive meanings into the cards is all well and good - of course flashes of pure intuition are necessary to divine effectively.
But I do suspect that this contemporary trend is actually based on the influence of post-modernist deconstruction, the notion that there are no ultimate truths other than what we 'read' into texts or images...
I thought this deck looked boring until now. Thanks for your interpretations. I found them very interesting.
Thank you, I'm so glad to hear that! :)
I’d say the angel top left Angel is the cups suit, bottom left is coins as you say, active earth, a bull perhaps; the top right is swords in the world, the eagle, and the lion bottom right is the wands. Top right is air, active. Bottom right is active wands, the right side of the card is active and the left side of the card is passive, so cups and coins receive, feelings and emotions are on the top, the two bottom “animals” are active, your actions and money and health etc, belong to the earth plane which is the bottom of the cards. Thank you for your video, it’s always so good to hear another tdm lover offer their opinions. That’s what’s so special about the deck, it’s history and forcing tour mind to intuitively understand their meanings, without a specific image guiding you to a conclusion. Really interesting 😊🙏🏻😊
Thank you for your comment, it's very interesting! It's amazing for me how depending on the context you can see so many different things in a simple image!
Much love to you, fellow TdM lover! ^_^
I think the tdm is beautiful. I especially really love the coins. Reminds me of the designs on old cigar boxes. Lol
Oh yes, I love the Coins too, I'm Wolf of Coins after all, haha! 😁
Excellent video ! Thankyou ⭐️☀️🌸
I agree ☺️ I also love marseille tarot 💕
Thank you for watching! :)
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Thank You so much! This is super interesting!
Almost want to do a crash-course in French so I can read the book that goes with the Millenium deck, NOW!!! but it's already May 2018, so I will wait until the English version comes out, hopefully in the Autumn. Now I'm hooked on the Marseille, and you are helping out with where to start. Much appreciated, Ann in Devon, England.
Thank you! I'm always happy when people find my videos helpful! :)
I can't wait for that book to be published in English too!
Incredibly interesting! Please do more TdM videos :). Thank you for this one!
Thank you very much! :) I'm planning on making more in the future! :)
Hi, intresting video. Thanks. Maybe, if I may say one thing : in order to establish a more personnal connection with your viewers would it be possible to look directly in the camera? Now, it's looks like you are talking to a third person present in your room.
Thanks! Yeah, I know about that problem, it was because of how my camera was set. But it's a video from two years ago, so I'm aware of that now :)
Very cool video Magdalena. As cool as TdM.
Haha, thank you! :)
Love your videos about Marseille. I am just beginning and have 3 decks only with pips😅😅😅 and what I do is to see all the details in the images like you said. I use to do that with my first deck an Egyptian one. To read more intuitively works for me , and if it fails I know the RWS meanings😅😅😅😅😅
Thank you! :) Sure, just do what works for you! My first deck was a pip deck, but when I reconnected with tarot world, I got a lot of decks with scenic Minor Arcana :)
Thank you for this video. I discover many details. Very interesting. (sorry about my English, I'm French)
Thank you! Yes, there's so much to see, so many details in those cards! :)
Très bien...Oups! désolé, verry good ; I like the way you explain, the connections between the cards are very relevant.
Not only do I love the Marseille, but hold up - LOOK at all that gorgeous yarn behind you! Do you have a knitting channel as well? Do you also spin?
Thank you! ^___^ Haha, indeed, I used to have a knitting channel ( WolffUndSchafe Podcast), I was also a yarn dyer, but I'm not in the business anymore. I do spin as well, but I'm much more into cross stitch these days :>
@@wolfofcoins I'm sorry that I missed your knitting and dying channel/podcast. Do you spin with a wheel or spindles? I am a relatively new tarot reader, but have fallen in love with it and am just starting my journey with TdM.
@@gourmetknitters5938 Oh, lovely! TdM has many charms! ^_^
I have a spinning wheel and spindles as well. At some point I preferred spinning on a spindle and plying on the spinning wheel :)
@@wolfofcoins ❤
I really like your point of view :).......Concerning The Millenium, he helps me to really love the Tarot de Marseille more than before (i also thought that the TdM wasn't really beautiful but i used it because it's so an intuitive deck) . Thank you for your video ;-)
Thank you!
I think loving the images helps you with the reading process :)
Thank you! I'm learning this tarot. I know the Lenormand, but this one is much more complexe.
Yes, I'd say Lenromand and tarot speak two different languages - both beautiful!
On the Millennial website they do not tell you what the dimensions of the cards are. Can you tell me what the size is?
Also, what is the card stock like? I have heard that the Jodorowsky card stock is not so nice, pretty flimsy? How does the Millennial compare with the Jodorowsky that way. Sorry to bother you with this. What intrigues me about the M. deck is the expansion of the borders. Thanks, Anne
My ruler is in milimeters, so I'm giving mm here :) The cards are 64mm x 123mm. The card stock is stiffer than Jodo-Camoin, and thicker too. I personally prefer thinner and more flexible cards (for me the Jodo-Camoin shuffles really well, I love it!), but some people really enjoy the Edition Millennium card stock. What I love about these cards it that they look like they have pointy edges (like original tarot cards had), but really they are not! So they don't hurt my hands while shuffling :)
Oh, thanks a bunch. I have the Dodal deck by Flornoy and love it. It has those slightly rounded corners like you describe. So beautiful. So what's your fav of the two decks you have, the mill. or the Jodor? Ha! Pressure!
Anne
I love them both, haha! Jodo is my first TdM deck that I started to study with, so it will always be special to me. Houdouin's is very, very beautiful
A wonderful video! I already love your channel. Btw are you polish?
Piotr Chyłka Dziękuję bardzo! 😊 Yep, a proud Pole here 😃 Is my accent that obvious? 😆
Enjoyed this!
Thank you! :)
TdM ♥ are the most beautiful and elegant decks, also accurate and old school, don't get me wrong, I love RWS, but TdM !!!!!! is in other level for sure!, even whem I'm more of a lenormand girl lol
Oh yes, TdM is a very special system and I love it too! ♥️
love your videos
Thank you! I think that different types of tarot have their place, however my heart belongs to Tarot de Marseille
@@wolfofcoins however my heart belong to pablo's robledo tarot de marsella
@@wolfofcoins and also I think that marsella develops more intuition than rider, back then tarot readers, did not have books of numerology and meanings, so they had to read tarot almost just by intuition, because of the visual methods, and we have to think that tarot did not have numbers on majors arcanas, so it was really about intuition, that is what it makes me love Marsella even more
@@JP-vc8oi Oh yes, it's my favorite deck too!
I do have to say something, I take back what I say about rider, yesterday I chat with some girl, and she told me that back then, she was very depressed and to her rider and tarot, and all that mystic thing helped her to overcome all that bad period of life, I need to be a little more open mind jajaja
May I ask what your favorite readily available TDM deck is?
I'd say it's either CBD or the Jodorowsky-Camoin :) I made a video about decks for beginners, you can see it on my Tarot de Marseille playlist :)
Wolf Of Coins thank you! yes I found and watched it after I posted this. Love your TdM videos! I have the Noblet, Dodal and CBD but I’m still finding myself drawn to the Noblet probably because it was my first and I love the small size. I’ve heard very bizarre things about Jodorowsky as a person and his deck so I guess I’ve avoided it
@@davegarciaofficial Yes, Jodorowsky certainly is a controversial figure. His book was my first TdM though and his deck was my first real TdM - so, like you towards the Noblet, I feel a sentiment towards it :)
At 14:40 you showed a Knight of Coins card... but it was the one from Jodorowsky, not the Millennium Edition. (It was getting a little confusing!)
For classic Marseille I like the Millennium Edition very much (also Jodorowsky and Noblet), but for everyday reading and for travel I like Lo Scarabeo's Ancient Italian Tarot (a reprint of an 1880 Italian deck) - it's cheap and plentiful (in print since 2000), easy to shuffle, has rounded card edges, and it follows the Marseille template while offering delicate and detailed beautiful images.
Yes, I used two decks, because it was easier to prepare all of the cards in advance and film this way :)
I have the Ancient Italian, it's a great deck! But I do find myself using the more "crude" decks for reading, actually. They seem to stimulate my brain better :D But it's an individual thing, I suppose :)
Eagle is swords and Angel is Cups
That is definitely a popular theory, but there's a quite wide debate about Angel/Eagle Cups/Swords topic :)
This is what Jodorowsky says. I also share his view because eagle is predator in air, and Angel comes from Christanity, mercy, spirit, astro Pisces=water=Cups (Ichthys, Fish = Christ).
Another version is: Raphael (Aquarius) is upper left, Gabriel (Scorpio) is the eagle, Michael (Leo) is the lion, and Uriel (Taurus) is the bull (Earth).
For me the Angel also fits better with Cups - like you said, angels bring nice things to mind (e.g. guardian angel) and eagles are dangerous and have sharp beaks. However we will never know what the original intention was, so I think it's up to us as readers to choose a version that speaks to us personally and help us as readers :)
Is it "cool" or is it "Kool"? That is the question.
Ma quindi? Il significato? Sono tutti paragoni ma non viene spiegato il vero senso.. boh..