CHEAP VS EXPENSIVE: GYEON CAN COAT VS STONER BEAD MAX
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- In this video Jimbo is back for another cheap vs expensive - this time its GYEON CAN COAT VS STONER BEAD MAX.
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I would not recommend applying CanCoat that way. Spray it on the MF cloth or applicator block and coat the car like you would with coating. Much better results, no overspary and no wastig of product.
Lucas Kulawik I wasn’t to worried about wasting product. I was trying to get as much product on there as possible
Auto Detailing Podcast That’s not the recommended application. Why waste the product and use incorrectly? That defeats the purpose of a review.
@@704tim are you suggesting if he used less product it would hold up better against iso/degreaser?
@@704tim therev would be zero advantage in terms of performance of the product by applying it with an application pad.
The only point of that is to avoid overspray.
@@autodetailingpodcast Were you also not worried about the instructions on how to let it cure properly?
Keep up the videos Jimbo. Cant please everyone. Love the series and the growth your channel has had.
Ryan Long thanks for that. Appreciate you following along
'I think I might have used a little too much' 😂
You think!? 2-3 mists on 1 side of a towel/applicator would have been enough to spread the Cancoat over the whole panel, never mind half of it 😂
JUMBO you really went all in with the Can Coat, it should be a couple of sprays/panel LMAO :D
Love all ur vids Jimbo and always keep your self-deprecating humor.
thanks! We can never take ourselves to serious
What the! Did he just use half a bottle for can coat application on a door? Amazing he must have been on top of his class
Great vid man thanks for the content. Keep 'em coming!
Thanks man!
Jimothy, appreciate the vid as always. May I maybe a suggestion? Get the panel at a slight angle to emulate a hood, use a light misting nozel to allow the water to accumulate slowly so we can see the beads forming then rolling, rather than the waterfall. Also when starting the product stripping tests you could use the strippers in the bottom half each test panel so you have the up half to compare it to. The mist on a half treated half stripped panel should be very revealing. Bless you my son.
Great one Jimbo.
Ian Jack Cleanyourmachineinc thanks!
Great vid Jimbo, please don't sniff products though... not good for your health :-(
Nicely done!
Scott Walters thank you
Great work Jimbo, don't listen to those people, do what you want and we want to see what you want to do! Wished you would have made a video on you doing the full correction on that hood! Can't wait for more and keep them coming!
Christopher Engell don’t worry more to come with compounds and polishes
If you are unsatisfied with the gyeon could you give it away for others to test? I want to do the same thing but use a sacrificial sio2 sealant on top.
I like your work bud.. Keep it up
Thank you.
I saw u and the family at the pumpkin patch to day! Small world thank u for all ur hard work and Information keep it all up
Kris McCarthy next time stop me and say what’s up!
Auto Detailing Podcast I was Geeking out because I’m a fan and did not want to bother u because u were with ur family and it was ur day off and all. I grew up in los al and bin detailing since 94
I’d love 2 hang out and help out and c how u do ur detailing in person vs the way I do my detailing o well have a great week brother
Good comparison
I like stoner products...great value
Thanks doing the demo, and yes the products are for different purposes. Your test is function over price not based upon the chemistry of the product. Can they do the job of shedding water, answer is Yes! The rest of the testing cannot be done on a video, time on the surface cannot be duplicated. If I was doing detailing as a business then price the use to meet customer’s expectations.
As suggested dump the hose and use a spray nozzle to imitate rain drops or a mister. That will makes imitate the impact of effects of rain or the morning dew. You will then be able to see how tight the water beads and make the use of the IPA or APC wipe downs more relevant.
Keep this up even when products are not the same, go beyond the hype and stress results.
2 things about can coat:
- As with all ceramic coatings, they recommend putting a sacrificial sio2 top coat like Carpro Reload. Gyeon Cure I think is theirs. Any silica based sealant. These ensure the coating has time to fully cure while protecting from water exposure.
- if you look at the clogged up sprayer you see there is a white crystalline resin that hardened up. All ceramic coatings lose their hydrophobic properties over time but they are still there. That’s why you need to rejuvenate the coating with a top coat one or two times a year or a sio2 sealant spray once a month.
I’m no expert just my 2 cents. What do you guys think?
Great video Jimbo! You discover one of the hidden secrets in this industry of "all marketing/no factory" brands: Stoner. It is one of the only car car companies that owns its factory and even fills its own aerosols. Your test methods were logical. You should check out two other secret weapons: Stoner Speed Bead trigger and Stoner Coating Wash (more hydrophobic than $100.gallon washes).
Would love to see a test/application video comparing a cheap and an expensive ceramic coating on your personal vehicle, side vs side over time comparison you know? Just a suggestion, know your a busy guy. I'll be watching either way 👍
working on it - just trying to figure out how to show longevity since my car is already coated and get waxed weekly.
I've always been curious if comparing compounds like 3d vs Adam's or chemical guys
on the list!
Nice comparison...just curious if you live next to a school or something, can hear recess time.
Andy Opshinsky yup sure do. Working on my timing and trying to control the noise.
If you have a chance, you should look up Technicians Choice ceramic spray. It is super cheap and comparable to a lot of other ceramic spray products. It works really well to add shine and crazy hydrophobic behavior.
David Boyce I’ve heard of it. I should pick some up for sure. Thanks!
@@autodetailingpodcast Cool. Keep the videos coming!
Bead maker test?
geyon wet coat vs a cheap spray rinse sealent?
i cant believe you have a channel. JIMBO
Good! You are correct not everyone have a place to let the products to cure! That’s me right there I have a bunch of new products waiting for the best morning weather so a can apply it early in the morning so it can cure during the day.. YOU SHOULD DO VIDEOS TO SEE IF THE PRODUCTS REALLY NEED THE TIME THEY SAY TO CURE! Nice videos by the way 👍🏼
frangensix agreed
How they repel dirty water is a great test I want.
Jimbo......your thoughts / review of the Kirkland microfiber??
I love them brand new, in fact a brand new Costco MF towel is one of the better window towels. But After one or two washes they are junk for any exterior use and I end up throwing them away or turning them over to use at the house.
Hello jimbo. I have been detailing for about 4 months. I just watched your how to make 100,000 in Auto Detailing. One thing I learned is I am not doing a Monthly wash program. I learned that I need to inform and offer clients about it. So my question is , could you make a video about this topic. 1. How do I get current clients onto the monthly wash. 2. How do I get past clients on the subscription . 3. How do I get clients that messaged me but never went through .4 clients that responded to a post I made but never really inquired about a service. What do I say and how do I get them to get on a monthly wash. Thank you
Sometimes u are just paying more for brand name. Great vid Jimbo
Whybyounapplied the ipa to the gyeon first but wiped it down last? Then the ipa had chance to break down the sealent for a longer time.
Not sure it was long enough to be able to say that
How do all these products hold up against the elements? Bird droppings, acid rain, road tar? Plus overall longevity etc...My suggestion would be in all fairness to all products is to conduct long term testing not just quick testing or water testing. We might see loss of water beading but are the products really protecting from the ever day elements.
I think we’d all like to see Gyeon can coat vs TW ceramic spray wax
Bro, you really gotta start reading the instructions on shit and applying them as intended.
Good job. I dont always get to watch a video, but when I do.. 🤜🤛 it better be a good one. Lol
Thanks for the comparison video! The haters probably bought the expensive product and don't like getting exposed like that. ;)
Do Nu Finish vs Topcoat F-11.
Gyeon’s not sending you a turkey for Thanksgiving.
Nope. Just emails on how wrong my testing was.
Auto Detailing Podcast Lol ... hang in there. I don’t see anybody else doing it. Easy to complain.
do you look at comments never apply CAN COAT LIKE THAT.
nice comparison jimbo.4 7 bucks ill use stoner...
Dude! Did you read the application instructions? It seems like you applied waaay too much product.
I don't see how these compare cancoat is a coating, they give you 3 sprayers for a reason, the SIO2 content is high. A more far comparison would be sonax pns and stoners. This one doesn't make much sense to me as the make ups are on different parts of the spectrum
Cruz's Car Wash totally agree. This is an apples to oranges comparison. Sonax PNS would have definitely been a better comparison to this Stoners product. CanCoat is in a category of its own and the only thing I can think of at the moment is Sonax CC36 Ceramic Coating as these both last about a year.
Not to mention the incorrect application for CanCoat. One would run out in a couple panels using it this way.
Cruz's Car Wash I covered this in the video but you must have missed that part
@@autodetailingpodcast the part where you said someone was going to say it's unfair and like a coating?? No I got that part but comparing something just what seems is based off price but nowhere near the same in make up does not justify the comparison.
As I said PNS is a higher price point but still similar as it's also a polymer and aerosol, same application etc
Cruz's Car Wash maybe I’ll give it a shot. These products acted the exact same in this situation regardless of what they are labeled as. So IMO it’s more of an accurate comparison regardless of price.
Auto Detailing Podcast I guarantee, in real world testing(everyday driving), the can coat will last longer than the Bead Max. Your test shows how they will hold up to solvents, which is not an accurate way of comparing to how they will hold of for their intended uses.
Seems like bead max would be comparable to meguiars ultimate fast finish In terms of aerosol and application. How about a "cheap vs cheap" episode 😎
That’s so funny, I just tried bead max for the first time 3 days ago right before you posting this video haha I’m so disappointed!!! It gives a nice gloss and smooth glass feel, but one rain storm later (the next day) my car is covered in rain spots and there’s no trace of wax at all, no water beading, nothing! I love stoner products but that wax sucks lol I’ll stick with good ol collinites.
Didn’t even last one day.. 🤦♂️
Where did you buy it for $6?
Local detail supply store. It’s only $10 on amazon
Did he even let can coat cure?
Can coat is not a wax and is not engineered to be applied by spray on direct pannel. It physically hardens which is why it feels tacky after a minute.
I did an update and tried it as recommended and had the same results. The application didn’t matter
Id like to put forth my two cents in agreement with the others that dont like heavy stripping. Its like you are taking a nuclear bomb to a sword fight and saying, look! This high priced shield and this low priced shield both didnt stop the nuclear bomb! The shields need to be tested with swords not bombs. What I am struggling with right now is getting the $200 Gyeon kit that has the various ceraminc bases and then the skin for a topper, vs. something like Adams 9h which claims to be a replacement for the longer cured ceramics. You wouldnt want to spend $200 on the whole kit and nuke it with stripper, but surely there are some more innocuous tests that could be run to see if the $200 is justified over a $50 spray bottle?
I think the only way to really test products in real world use is to put them in the real world. Either apply different products to each panel of your car or leave the test panels outside and wash every couple of weeks to check durability. The only thing this test really proves is how resistant they are against chemicals. (I'm not hating by the way, I enjoy your videos regardless)
I agree. But that takes a long time and isn’t as exciting. The reality is we use these harsh chemicals around our car every wash and need to consider overspray. Plus it’s super fun for me to do them 😉 thanks for watching!
i love you dawg, but you didnt use the directions, im trying to gain in life, not loose. you constanly misuse application and or product cover, you have a prob with gyeon can coat,
Can’t really compare a ceramic based coating to a spray wax , pointless and it’s 200ml product so doesn’t matter if it’s not full to the top as long as you get 200ml like advertised
You sprayed 2-3 cars worth of can coat on that little panel, and applied it totally wrong...
Hey Jimbo those 2 yellow cylinders behind you in the corner of the garage is that a portable soft water system??
austen anderson yup it’s how I get DI water to my water tank in my truck
Nice man I’ve been looking for a set up like that I can just connect my hoses to! Where do you get those tanks at??
Well I better go ahead and place my order for the bead Max. because if they end up getting a spike in sales because your video that product will double in price to be a $14 dollar can.
I hope it doesn’t.
@@autodetailingpodcast It will you put on such a good clinic that the tests proved it. it's worth buying the price is going to spike up.
Chuckwick Simmons I appreciate the awesome feedback.
@@autodetailingpodcast Stoner makes an almost identical aerosol product Speed Bead aerosol if you cannot find Bead Max.
Great video now the stoners is $ 25
love your vids! but what is all that noise? sounds like a playground or something/ call me Sherlock
It’s since changed on the newer videos
Jbo don't do the sniffy sniff test on products in carrying fluid like coatings... I wanna watch your videos for a while lmao
HAHAHAHA
Fantastic video! (1st here)
JDMFINDER 253 thanks for that!
Jesus Christ are you at the park lol
Daddy day care detailing 😂
For all the STUPID PEOPLE!!! that bash jimbo doing this video, by saying that jimbo is not comparing apple to apple..........
Note that the title of this video is about comparing LSP with similar application method, with a twist "cheap vs xpensive."
The hell with comparing SIO2 vs Polymer shit.
The hell with comparing carnauba wax vs montan wax.
The hell with water based vs solvent based vs petroleum based.
For me as car owner im not sweating over does my LSP consist of SIO2 or polymer or sth else.
Price always affects decision making.
And if beadmax or Meg fast finish or any other spray LSP that is cheaper than gyeon performs on par with gyeon cancoat...it doesnt matter whether gyeon has SIO2 or not...doesnt matter if beadmax has polymer has ceramic has carnauba or not...as long as the stuff protects the clearcoat, beads sheets well, looks good, feels slick, WHAT ELSE TO FUSS ABOUT!!!???
We can talk about comparing apple to apple all day long...but that is from a chemist point of view.
And from a chemist point of view, comparing two products that has SIO2 content, that according to us are fair comparison..this maybe not the same for them, maybe a chemist will put another factors such as what solvent the lsp has, etc etc as comparison factors...not just merely comparing 2 Products that each has SIO2 content and say that it is a fair comparison.
We as car owner no need to enter those endless chemistry shit debate.
Im not bashing gyeon here.
For me gyeon cancoat performs better than beadmax all day long.
I feel like I need to pin this comment. Well said. Thank you
Why do you continually compare things that should absolutely not be compared? Regardless of price.
Why shouldn’t they?
Both are LSP.
Both are spray and wipe LSP.
Both are for clearcoat.
Both are for car's clearcoat.
So...why shouldnt????
what a wacked test,
Why?
Hey, you water, behave!
Gyeon is way better
A little too much? Ya think, you nit?
Bead max is not silica beased and probably not as durable. Not similar products.
But it was just as durable when beat up with some heavy cleaners. Silica or not it held up
@@autodetailingpodcast I'm talking about longterm protection. Cancoat can protect for up to a year.
Dutch79 - why wouldn’t bead max be able to?
@@autodetailingpodcast It's unlikely for a non ceramic product, but the point is that this not included in the comparison. Long term durabilty/protection is a important aspect of such a product. One of the reasons for the price difference.
Dutch79 great point on the long term durability point. Ok ya it's great that a degreaser and an apc where used but let's be realistic. Uv rays, salt, road film, rain, acid rain and the list goes on. I'm sure we're paying for those long term benefits especially from a Sio2 based product. I've been using ceramic coatings for the past 3 years now and never looked back because of it.
This guy does not know what he is doing at all. The Can Coat should be applied to the applicator instead of sprayed on the car. Worked in lightly and immediately wiped off. A real amateur. Do not let him touch your car. Terrible comparison. 2 totally different products.
try checking the updated video where I did everything according to the directions and got the same result...maybe your the amateur.
First I though "what does beer have to do with stripping a coating?" Oh... duh, not that IPA
i had to move on. your background is loud as shit. you never show prepping a panel,
JUST UNSUBED, HE DOSENT READ DIRECTIONS. ALSO ITS VERY LOUD
Thanks for letting us all know.
Can't even pronounce brand name property and application totally wrong absolutely no idea
Bead maker test?