Fusso Coat V Seal n Shine V Cancoat V Ultralock Plus
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- čas přidán 26. 12. 2022
- Fusso Coat (old version)
Seal n Shine USA version
Gyeon Can Coat EVO
Jesscar Ultra Lock Plus +
The USA products are hard to acquire in the UK, you might not be able to get them now. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Although I have numerous sealants, I use Seal N Shine often. It's so inexpensive and works incredibly well. It is highly underrated.
I’ve just managed to get some. What’s the best way to solo it in your opinion? Is it necessary to put something like hybrid wax on top?
@@786Kay786 I don't spray it onto the vehicle surface--I like to spray it into a microfiber towel and apply it that way. There's no need to top it with anything--it is a topper.
TW Seal & Shine -RM79 vs Fusso Coat -RM42 in my country
Happy New Year John! Another enjoyable vid, thanks.
I'm from Maine in the States and will testify to how well the Seal&Shine holds up through Maine winter weather. For most, S&S is just about legendary. I always use it for doorjams, wheels, and under the "bonnet" for my clients. Damn...that stuff holds up. Affordable, effective, available, dependable = no brainer!.
Shine on you crazy diamond!
I can attest to the original formula of seal & shine is unbelievably durable!! Great comparison Jon!! 👍🐢 🇨🇦
Another TW Seal n Shine (Maryland, USA) user, here. My new car is black and almost 7 months old. I applied SnS during the first week of ownership and then topped it off with the Ice spray wax a couple months later (timing issues/busy life). They have held up incredibly well. I don't get to do maintenance washes as often as I like, and even from 10+ feet away, the car looks clean even through a layer of dirt/road film. Thankfully the rain does a decent job of washing away the lighter stuff, but once the weather warms up, it will definitely need a pre-wash/citrus spray around the lower areas of the car. The SnS/Ice Spray Wax combo is excellent. Especially for the price.
Used TW Seal & Shine yesterday (UK, version) on our black 12yr old Ibiza, looks great and beading really well today.
TW Ice Seal N Shine is a beast! Great protection for the winter and so easy to apply. I use it on wheels to protect against road salt and brine solutions sprayed on the roadway. Seal N Shine is muy macho. It’s currently about $12 USD for a bottle. Widely available everywhere in the USA. Not sure why the UK version would be different?
Another great video, FYI we have that TW Ice Seal n Shine in my local Halfords. I now have a bottle Thanks Jon 👍
Love to see you compare some of these new stuff with the classics like Collinite 476/915
Great test John👍👍
Looking forward to you testing some DIY Detail products in 2023😉
That is absolutely outrageous isn't it! Great video, I enjoyed that one a lot (not the camera work mind, that's upsetting).
Love Seal and Shine 👍. It get no respect like the late Rodney Dangerfield. It’s inexpensive so people feel it’s not comparable to a more expensive spray sealant.😔. I love it. Been using it since 2019👍
Yes, been using Seal n Shine for a few years. A very comparable and durable spray wax to Seal n Shine is Eagle One Wipe N Shine Detailer. Holds ups just as Seal n Shine. You can check out those two products comparison testing on you tube Apex Detail. Both are impressive.
Just bought this ICE seal N shine in Halford, I couldn't believe it when I saw it on the shelf
TW gives me 6 months real world durability. The only negative is for brand snobs who struggle with buying a TW product.
There's more than one well known London Detailing service using TW products which they rebottle so that customers don't know it's not some WunderElixir.
SiRamik Lustrous + Graphene Spray could be worth a look. Applied to one of our vehicles nearly a year ago. It is one of the early “stronger” batches than requires a little more care to apply to avoid high spots or streaking but with common sense is still easy enough. Pre-wash has always been Autofoam and mostly Pure shampoos, any sign of beading being poor was brought back to life with Labo Purifica. It’s at the stage where it’s still going strong but can feel decontamination on the roof and bonnet that will need taking care of in the new year once the weather improves but will be using it again no doubt.
Jon, thanks for your testing. I would like to speak on behalf of Turtle Wax. Here in the States, I have used the Seal 'N Shine with their TW Ice Spray Wax. I have never used the other products in your testing. However, I can personally recommend the Sea; 'N Shine and Ice Spray Wax combo. You will get a year or more, depending on driving conditions and weather? Seal 'N Shine cost less than $10.00 per bottle. The KEY is proper preparation!
Watching Brian on APEX DETAILING the only thing I seen that beat the original seal & shine was the new hybrid ceramic seal and shine.. Just unbeatable for the money. If someone told me ten years ago that Turtle would have the best spray on sealant I'm not sure I'd have believed them..
I use the seal n shine but my go to has been Gruots 3 in 1 ceramic and AM Detail ceramic hybrid sealant. they are also extremely hydrophobic and durable.. try those on the next test
great video as usual :)
It is odd that turtlewax came out with a cult classic and then continued to fiddle with the formula, until it was almost a completely different product.
Its a shame they changed the formula... would rather get same formula but a little raise in price
Classic Turtle Wax American company. Make a great product, rubbish with endless tinkering.
Are you all having a problem with the new formula? It worked great for me but the longevity of Griot’s 3 in 1 hybrid ceramic wax caused me to switch to that product.
Love the look of that M4 CS
I very recently carried out a winter prep and went with the OG Fusso coat (can still be purchased through eBay at times) I was surprised by the gloss levels considering it doesn't claim to be a gloss monster, but noticed the beeding starting to fade after just a few maintenance washes, I've topped with luxury gloss which seems to work well together, can't see it doing 8 + months but no way I'd leave it that long anyhow 😆. Real world testing by yourself is the most accurate out of all the testing.
Try a decon wash. Maybe a lower ph soap followed by an iron remover. PTFE products can clog up easily.
@Tommy Holt Yeah, I went with GT decon shampoo both through a lance and bucket mate.
The luxury gloss seems great, but I'm just not sure about the fusso as a stand-alone for that amount of time, say if daily driven, etc.
I’ve found similar with other Fusso waxes; start off well but fade quite quickly. The stuff I’ve tried doesn’t seem to play nice with QD’s either.
@Sam Court
Thanks for your reply, I really like the soft99 range, but I just can't help thinking that fusso Coat is a little over hyped. The local detailer also wasn't keen on its application.
Although I haven't used it for a while as I've tried various spray sealants, I really liked 845 insulator wax as it goes on like butter.
@@simonburns102 I like the gloss and the beading is really impressive. It just doesn’t last long enough in my opinion, although it’s pretty easy to apply so a top up coat isn’t the end if the world. I’ve used some ceramic wax from in2detailing and it’s much much more durable.
I used always have a bottle of the turtle wax sealant around for my dad & partners car but ran out a few weeks ago so decided to try out the sonax BSD instead.
Would be nice to see if the rupes uno advanced can compete with these.
Great video. I use seal and shine on my wheels. Hit it with a wheel cleaner like TW iron remover and it doesn't budge. Jon was using a high alkaline cleaner and it could be that some of these LSP's are more resistant to other types of chemicals?
Built hamber double speed wax I rate takes a beating too 💪
*Best chemical resistance Jon 😉
In the real world Cancoat blows TW seal/shine out the water. 3-4 months compared to 12-18 months.
Absolutely. I mentioned this in a recent video where ‘durability’ was represented by chemical resistance and Jon stated that he has clarified this point before. This doesn’t help any new viewers or people who may not have understood the difference.
In what ways? Be more specific? What are your metrics?
@@roscopervis please elaborate.
@@JeLifeCoach what are you confused about? I'd say what's been stated is pretty straightforward.
@@JeLifeCoach I rest my case Jon.
I was not expecting them results. Very curious tho why the gyeon failed so quick, it's interesting coz I have a gyeon coating 2 that's ment to be more durable then that and high alkaline products removed the hydrophobics very very interesting. I assume it was left to cure for 7 days right ?
Jon, A spray wax that will rival Seal N Shine is Eagle One Wipe and Shine Detailer. Cost point is about the same as TWSS
Seal and Shine wins another year of protectant!
Got collinite 476s been using it for about 2 years going to try fusso light then use 476s as a wax to extend the durability although the turtle wax looks good for in-between washes any thoughts ?
As well as seal n shine gets regarded I wonder if it can keep up with fusso and can coat! Lets find out in this episode of Forensic Detailing Channel.
well considering he didn't apply the can coat correctly or let it cure this is a bad example
I think a yearly light polish and a few applications of some crushed turtles is the way to go.
I have had car with ceramic coatings for around 6 years now. The problem is that after a while there will be light scratches and water spots after a while, say half way through the ceramic coating lifespan. Ideally this needs decontamination yearly with a clay bar which is not possible with a ceramic coating.
I ultimately want a car to look in showroom condition for the longest period with minimal effort. I seriously considering not using ceramic coatings anymore...
Most people don't realize they do need a decon wash for optimal performance. Iron remove, mineral remover, and as a last resort, I'll give it a light clay with a perforated towel.
@Platinum Mobile Detailing even if i do a decon wash, minus the claying, it never looks the same as the car does in the first year after a polish.
I have tried the carpro essence plus to 'revive' a coating, but it was not as good as I was hoping, and the fillers don't last that long.
I also tried using cancoat after a decon, to spruce up the hydrophobics, which helped increase the longevity of the coating.
However, nothing has popped and had the clarity of a freshly polished car. The heavy cutting is back breaking, but a light polish with a nice non dusting compound, which I can whizz round the car in a day, once a year, is my current thinking.
So its a wk end once a year for gleaming paintwork. Saturday decon and probably start some polishing. Sunday finish polishing and apply a long lasting sealant. Continue with fortnightly maintainance washes and reapply spray sealant every few months, or even use diluted amounts as a drying aid.
That appears to me to be a good compromise for the easiest and cheapest way to get a shiny car for what I am looking for, without going too crazy.
@@alim9489 I totally get what you're saying. If you are meticulous enough to notice the little things, then a yearly freshen up with an all in one like uno protect will also keep it looking great while removing a minimal amount of clear coat. That's what a call an enhancement polish and it's one of my favorite services to offer. A coating is great for keeping a vehicle looking good with less effort, especially for those who don't know how to polish. But if you have the know how, then being able to remove the inevitable defects that will happen will keep it closer to showroom quality.
@@platinum.mobile.detail Whats does the uno protect better then a yearly finish polishing and after that applying Cancoat Evo? Applying Cancoat Evo is 1 hour worktime.
I've used them all and fusso wins on my sits outside 24/7 daily driver hands down.
It seems the later version or versions of the Seal and Shine aren't as good as the first. I'm wondering if TW watered it down so it didn't compete with their newer ranges.
Tacsystem Moonlight would be a great addition
Are you sure the Turtle Wax tested (sent by the producer) is the same you get from the regular shop?
303 Nano Spray Coating is the best one for me🤘🏻affordable for anyone 😉👍🏻
Trying to find a video of yours i watched about 3 weeks ago singing the praises of a product which you loved saying its the slickest easiest on and buff off you have used you were polishing your car in the garage with it can't remember what it was cann you please cheers Brian suscribed.
its prolly either Autofinesse Triple, Rupes Advanced, Maybe Gyeon primer
Synergy boost from infinity wax, would love to hear your opinion its an amazing protection product.
Seconded!
Hey John, i would like to see you do a test on the infinity Wax synergy ceramic wax it claims to say 58 weeks thanks in advance
Love the hate it or love it reference at the end
Living in the UK what chance do you have of leaving any products for 24-48 hrs to cure when your car is outdoors
This might sound silly to some, I don't need a wax or sealant that lasts for many months or years, because I wash then wax my car every other day after I use it. During the warm weather, I use my car during each weekend. During the week, it is kept under a car cover. During 7 months (September to April) it is kept in my garage. I wax it or polish it after every wash. I wash it a minimum once a week.
Did two coats coat of seal & shine 24 hrs apart and it lasted 9+ months
Hiya John hope all is well, will we see you testing diamond pro tech soon and a very merry Christmas to you
would love to see you toss some boat product into the mix.
Something seen seems off with the Cancoat application. Probably too little product when applied
he didn't let it cure at all.... zero
I've been really disappointed with the durability of Can Coat EVO in my usage. Applied 2 coats in mid-September and on the lower panels of the car it's absolutely dead. Tried hitting it with Car Pro Reset and a fallout remover and there was very little difference. For a product that claims 12 months, 3/4 months is pretty poor in my opinion on a car that's washed every 2/3 weeks at most. I'll top it up to get it through to summer at least but not sure I'll be using it again.
Then you didn't prep the panels correctly.... ie. decon, claybar, cleaner polish, ISO wipe etc... Any coating is only as good as your prep. I have cancoat on my car, and i live in new england and i can attest to being 9months in and the coating is nearly as good as when it was installed
I'd like to see P&S beadmaker next to these products. I use it (applied dry on a cleaned car) and it looks to be going forever on my sidewindows
that wont get close to these products durability wise mate.
@@ForensicDetailing I'll have to take your word on that. 😁
Anyway, thx for replying, man. 👍🏻
The can coat needs 1 week before washing. And something seemed very wrong with the water behavior it's much much more hydrophobic the times i've used it.
Definitely need the latest versions of Fusso and Turtle shell to test durability Jon
John does these tests so we don’t have too 😂
Yup used to love the seal and shine until it changed
You can get that version in Halfords with the green turtle
Here in Oz we get old Fuso, and Green Turtle
Can you stack fusso on top of jescar?
“What is the most durable retail product that you can go and buy” - then shows 3 out of 4 products that are not available for sale in the UK 😂
Fair play 🤣🤣🤣
You can find them online 👍🏽
Oh no! If only you could buy over the internet... UK sellers do have them.
Love your channel! I wanted to buy Jescar SI02 Sealant for the durability. I wanted to top it with a carnauba wax or even Angelwax Enigma. Do you think this will be ok to do on my brand new pick up truck for ultimate protection and gloss? Is mixing brands like that ok? I want to do the best of each category I can find for my new white truck. Thank you for any advice.
Shoukd be ok. Although enigma is not a normal wax not sure how it will work on uktralock
Seal N Shine is impressive given the price and easy on/off. Bit harsh on CanCoat not to leave it for a good while but it is a ‘topper’ type i guess…I think the review would be more relevant with the up to date versions that are the easiest to get. I’ve had Moonlight get to ~ 8 months before.
The cancoat is a legitimate coating, its not designed to be a topper.... It's just a more user friendly, and less durable coating compared to 2-3-4 year coatings..... There's 0% chance this coating was applied correctly and allowed enough time to cure. i've never been so sure of something in my life
Am really surprised with gyon can coat evo with its durability and especially it's water beating I have the old can coat version on my daily with our winters here in Canada and the longevity is pretty good and the water beating is outstanding, especially compared to the Evo apparently
This is not a true representation of real world durability. Cancoat is extremely durable & the most durable in the line up without a doubt.
The spray on products are preforming better on a glass surface.
@Adam yeah I also thought that as I've been using Cancoat for years & the hydrophobics are insane.
@@BrianW1612 yes, something not looking right with the CanCoat here. The immediate patches/pooling on the fresh application was the giveaway.
Does the Gyeon CanCoatEvo contain any actual UV protection?
Everytime I use seal and shine its all off in a fortnight, done the full preps bought a new bottle too just incase put loads on put less on left it longer before buffing but a few washes later the water just lays flat on the car, I give up with it lol
Thought I was the only one, I can't get it to last, not even using a harsh shampoo
Yep me too buddy, no water repellency at all. I still have the old hydrophobic sealant bottle and way better
Same experience here. Seems like it was gone after a wash or two
Seal and Shine on the Bay £18-00/5L. Can this be genuine?
Should have included Collinite 476 and Finish Kare F1000P.
they would not keep up with this field. I have FK1000p and ive used 476 both decent.
In my experience all sealants decline over a short period of repeated washing. Cancoat is exceeds any other sealeants and only started trailing off only daily driver. Its very cheap to use and easy to work with, a bargain Gyeon product. It is also a great plastic revivor / sealant, best I have used on my motorcycles, I use it on everything, nothing else comes close.
Turtle seal and shine is the most durable but the only drawback is that it attracts dirt.
I can attest to the fact that you must have applied the gyeon can coat incorrectly... or didnt let it cure long enough because i have it on my car and it beads far more than what you display here
at 1:00 , does the fusso coat looks hazy on the surface?
Do you let the fusso coat to set for 30 minutes and buff off afterwards I do 5 to 8 minutes depending on temperture find it quite hard to buff than others on the market
You only need to wait the 5-10 minutes before buffing. The instructions say 15 minutes but I only wait 10 at most. If you’re finding it difficult to buff you are probably putting too much on. Just put the thinnest of thin coats on and it buffs easily. It works well. I also have Soft99 kiwami wax that I use as a topper. It’s easier to apply because you can buff it straight off. The conurbation of both is amazing.
Should've tried tac systems moonlight against the can coat evo Jon
whats the point when he didn't apply it correctly / give it the correct amount of time to cure. This is an awful comparison video
Hi, You are doing a fantastic job. Can you test the American and European version of Seal snd Shine? The shops say it's the same product, but many people don't believe it.
ive done that mate its on that channel. I found the USA version a bit better
I would like to see ultimaxx waxeramic tested
I'm waiting for the Rupes Uno Advanced Protect test...Please. Almost no tests on CZcams at this moment. They said up to 12 months protection.
It's mikes ahead of other aio m8 buy it.
@@ForensicDetailing I bought it today. When will you test it? Keep up the good work. My favorite detail channel.
I feel like TAC Systems Moonlight needs to join that list
love a good shootout
better find a different video because you wont find a good shootout here. The gyeon cancoat wasn't installed correctly, or allowed to cure.
In the US I can get the Seal and Shine on Amazon for $10.49USD. The ad shows the old and new bottles together and just states "new look". Nothing about a formula change.
They put something about adding sio2 on a yellow tag in the new formula, but might have dropped that by now.
Can't go wrong with dsw. You've said it many times john
Wow this review really shocked me as the Turtlewax is the cheapest and water based, mind baffling thanks for the review, is this the UK version of the seal and shine or a american version
The American one
That beading on can coat evo was off, on my car it’s up to par with fusso maybe even a bit better. Error of application maybe? Trust me not saying that to be rude lol but it’s really off there.
Turtle wax imo is the best stuff
Yes I love their products 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I think there was something wrong with the Cancoat, as applied it to my car and was one of the most hydrophobic ever seen ❗️. Don’t forget Sonax BSD❓
there's 100% chance he botched the cancoat application.... most likely not allowed to cure
Shocking to see how the cancoat done
because he botched the application, and didn't allow it the 24 hour time to cure. You can literally click any other review of cancoat on youtube and see that this guy screwed something up
The most durable thing that you can slap on your car is "paint"😃
Definitely something wrong with the can coat, either application or product,
Would of probably been better to of used the new turtle 🐢 wax for a better comparison 🤔
100% fact
What about turtle wax ceramic +graphene paste wax? If I recall, this is one of most durable ones
No seal and shine is way more durable
@@ForensicDetailing But we cannot find it 😅
They make a dark and black paint version of Seal n Shine with black pigment and extra fillers....
Turtle Wax has to change the name of Seal and Shine to Godzilla Shine👍
Is it seal and shine that used to be in the blue bottle?
that was rinse wax
Just got 5lt of the turtle was seal and shine off of eBay for £18 delivered bargain to be had there if anyone’s interested 👍
Is that the old formula
@@piovo5222 this is the real question. The new batch is rubbish.
It would only be fair to Gyeon to redo the whole experiment and let it cure for a week( as with most ceramics ). The way cancoat performed here is in no way consistent with the results people are getting otherwise, me included.
So please, John, if you’re going to compare a true ceramic coating with other non ceramic coatings, let it cure accordingly.
Turtle seal n shine is the best to use if your country has continuous rain due to its hydrophobic properties amd toughness but its the worst sealant during the dry - dusty season as it is a definitive dust magnet. Better if you have different wax/sealants depending on the season.
Weird for cancoat!, Was it a new bottle or an old product already opened?.
It’s supposed to cure for a week or so before hitting it with strong chemicals. So I would say this is not the way to test it…
Ah yes the hardening time! Thank you for your answer ! 👍 👍 👍
Few things to take from the video.
1. Stay the hell away from Surfex HD! That stuff will remove everything! :D j/k
2. Expensive isn't always the best.
3. The most resilient product tested ... is actually the white marker pen used. My car is white. Which marker pen did you use? :)
I split my car's bonnet last year and applied TW Hydrophobic Wax and Fusso Coat (old formula / white) on each half. I had to redo the TW after roughly 3 months, but Fusso only let go after 11 months or so. On rainy days it was very clear there were 2 different products used. Fusso is my favourite, but I will always have TW because it is so good and very easy to work with. It also works on all surfaces. And at that price, just use it as a drying aid and never bother with a sealant refresh.
My problem with Turtle Wax is the marketing on this product. You have ICE Seal N Shine, I have the Hydrophobic Sealant Wax and now there is another one available called Seal N Shine Hydrophobic Wax. To my knowledge it is all the same product. Don't think I've seen a comparison of the 2 or 3 of them.
It's also interesting to me that we only started getting Fusso Coat here after they seemed to change the formula, and we only get the old formula. Africa is a dumping ground for old stock, but I won't complain.
I may be wrong but didn't TW change the branding of the Hydrophobic Sealant to Seal and shine, in the UK but it's the same formula 🤔
Fusso Coat original is actually slightly better than the new formula. This channel actually did a nice comparison on those two.
@@soapa4279 Yes, indeed it is. Even in the longevity claims the new formula is only said to last 11 months while the older formula is 12. We only started receiving Fusso Coat here after the formula changed, but it is the older formula. This is usually because Africa winds up being a dumping ground for old stock. 😁 I'm not going to complain about that though.
Should have left the panel for a week, Can Coat needs more than 48 hours for a full cure.
even 24 hours.... this is a very bad comparison video
What do you suggest as a topper for Fusso Coat?
Speed barrier s99 m8
Can you apply Gyeon Can Coat on top of Auroglym SRP? Thanks for all your content.
no mate
@@ForensicDetailing thank you 😊
5 months later and TW Seal and shine is £8.39 at Amazon UK....Worth a punt?
Yes m8 the us version. Has a tiny bit more punch but just get some. It's cheap and I think it's really good
@@ForensicDetailing The one on Amazon UK has the green turtle...if that makes a difference.
has your can coat gone bad?
Don't think so dave could be lack of 7 day cure
Do you have the part number of the seal n shine? is it 53223 ??
I'm in bed at the moment m8 I'll try remember this and find it
27th (December) 😀