Mad Max Interceptor Pull - 351 Cleveland on the Dyno!

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  • @shane92905
    @shane92905 Před 5 lety +115

    Absolutely love the sound of a good 351C nothing else sounds like them

    • @alexcorona
      @alexcorona Před 6 měsíci

      351M 😂 Boss 302…etc

    • @vadenk4433
      @vadenk4433 Před 3 měsíci

      I’ve never heard a 351 M that sounded anywhere near as good as a well built Cleveland. Not saying they don’t exist but every 351 M I’ve been around was an absolute dog

    • @billdang3953
      @billdang3953 Před 21 dnem

      @@vadenk4433 Typical for a malaise era engine.

  • @jerryberryhill3619
    @jerryberryhill3619 Před 5 lety +72

    Nothing like the sound of a 351 C, I love these engines.

  • @herbertmartin955
    @herbertmartin955 Před 5 lety +235

    Back when dyno- saurs roamed the streets the Cleveland was one of the few engines that could strike fear in the heart of a big block.

    • @petergalouzis7272
      @petergalouzis7272 Před 4 lety +20

      Herbert Martin and the clevo still lives up to its status . 2v for the street 4v for race

    • @bbcala9719
      @bbcala9719 Před 4 lety +15

      Yes, one of Fords best race motors. Street n strip

    • @lemans310
      @lemans310 Před 4 lety +23

      Had a 351 Cleveland in a 73 Torino. Best sound ever. Torque monster!

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 Před 4 lety +16

      It was the LS of the 70s.

    • @charliemorris2338
      @charliemorris2338 Před 4 lety +17

      Small block with the attitude of a big block.

  • @philipmiller9787
    @philipmiller9787 Před 4 lety +9

    Had a 351c in a 71 mach 1, took route 66 from Phoenix to Detroit in 1987 best ride so far,I'm 57

  • @Orygunducks56
    @Orygunducks56 Před 5 lety +27

    Boy this takes me back. What a great find on CZcams. in 76 at 19 years old, I bought a 1970 Mach One 351 CV4 with an FMX auto trans and 9 inch rear end. Trashed the FMX and put in a built C6 with 3500 stall speed converter. Took the motor to the local machine shop and a copy of a Hot Rod Street build for the motor with HP output at around 425+. Cam high rise 750 cfm holly headers ported and polished the heads etc. Added 4.11 posi gears for the track, freshly updated brakes, coil over and traction bars. Wish I could have put it on a dyno but ran out of funds. Took it to Woodburn Drag Strip where the first pass was 11.60 smoking the tires most of the way. Needed slicks badly. Didn't get another pass that day as it blew the rear main seal. Common problem on this motor. Boy I loved that motor, it pulled so hard and sounded so good, pulled harder than my friends built 455 GTO or 440 GTX. Didn't lose a single street race the two years I owned it. Never got back to the track with it. Would have liked to keep it but I also met my future wife at the track and I still have her 42 years later and a 92 Fox body 5.0 that has some bolt on goodies for fun.

    • @blindhog2756
      @blindhog2756 Před 4 lety +4

      I had a 66 impala 396 4 speed, and I never beat a car like yours on the strip. I could handle most anything else,and always thought this mustang Cleveland setup was almost perfect.

  • @kgooch69
    @kgooch69 Před 6 lety +73

    Being a big Cleveland guy myself I am impressed but at the same time I wasn't surprised..the Cleveland will flat out run.

  • @frehleyleadguitar
    @frehleyleadguitar Před 2 lety +12

    I have good memories of my Cleveland, one of the best running engines I’ve owned! Fun to see this one on the dyno.

  • @110665
    @110665 Před 6 lety +47

    thats why I use a roller cam now, no need to run in the cam...love them Cleveland's!!

    • @billdang3953
      @billdang3953 Před 21 dnem

      Good choice as currently available engine oils do not have sufficient zinc to protect flat tappet cams.

  • @larryarcher4502
    @larryarcher4502 Před 4 lety +6

    Boy does that take me back 68 Ford Fairlane station wagon my dad passed everything from Chip trucks to Cadillacs with nine kids in the car thanks for memory lane Nick live on 351

  • @AliasUndercover
    @AliasUndercover Před 4 lety +112

    Fords just generate oil from the air when they run. It condenses on the block and drips off, protecting the engine from rust. It's magic.

    • @alonzomoore8025
      @alonzomoore8025 Před 3 lety

      o I 0 o oo

    • @randyhamilton2863
      @randyhamilton2863 Před 2 lety +2

      Lol

    • @1972mercurycougar
      @1972mercurycougar Před 2 lety +2

      Ha! Still love them! '71-'73 Cougar fan! 351C is a gem.

    • @jimginter6802
      @jimginter6802 Před 2 lety

      That's the only explaining that makes sense yet, especially in regards to two stroke jimmies, thank you

    • @That_Handle
      @That_Handle Před 2 lety

      8:48 - Is it never a good idea to include oil dye for definitvely tracking down leaks and faster?

  • @kevinpatrick8788
    @kevinpatrick8788 Před 4 lety +25

    im a mopar guy and i love my 71 duster 340 but ford really hit the mark with the 351 cleveland . great smallblock

    • @alexcorona
      @alexcorona Před 6 měsíci

      Actually they did not because it came too late, so it never got to see the pinnacle of what it could have been. Ford was planning the 4V version to make 500HP…. But then the gas crisis hit and the production motor ended up being crippled heavily.

    •  Před 23 dny

      Ford never called them "small blocks".

    • @billdang3953
      @billdang3953 Před 21 dnem

      Ever heard of the 318 polyshere? The Ford Cleveland engines borrowed from the 318 polysphere in that it used similar looking valve configuration and combustion chamber as well as the evenly spaced intake and exhaust ports (as opposed to the small block Chevy's siamaesed ports).

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 Před 6 lety +27

    that was one of the best motors Fomoco made.

  • @wayneoneal7952
    @wayneoneal7952 Před 5 lety +17

    I love 351 Cleveland's!!!! Great motor from Ford

  • @gossy351
    @gossy351 Před 6 lety +7

    8:37 that look on his face is priceless, bravo Nick bravo, another ecstatic customer.

  • @charger19691
    @charger19691 Před 6 lety +13

    Nick really puts everything he has into building his engines and repairing cars. Much respect!

    • @charger19691
      @charger19691 Před 6 lety +1

      kcotte59, Nick knows how to build them.

  • @cliffcampbell8827
    @cliffcampbell8827 Před 3 lety +10

    Nick's enthusiasm is infectious. I'm feeling pumped to go to work now. Better than a cup of coffee. Great work Nick!

  • @acts2211
    @acts2211 Před 5 lety +8

    It is an absolute joy to watch somebody who's a master of their craft

  • @Unclejake
    @Unclejake Před 5 lety +28

    The ford ain’t leaking, it’s marking its spot!

  • @twolak1972
    @twolak1972 Před 2 lety +5

    The 351C is one of the Iconic engines like the 427 side oiler. For decades Bob Glidden dominated Pro stock with this brute despite chevy and mopars attempts to ban it. The 69 Mach 1 351 C 4 spd combo has been the demise of so many BB mopars and chevys the list is endless. That motor like the 427 is capable of scary scary hp and torque.

  • @mynameis9057
    @mynameis9057 Před 5 lety +15

    I had a 2v 351 Cleveland in my '72 Mercury Montego GT and boy that car was a screamer! even though it was stock and didn't even have a 4v or headers,it still went like a bat out of hell! sounds good too.thanks again guys. ☆☆☆

    • @orieandlindamartin1632
      @orieandlindamartin1632 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I'm a cleveland fanatic from way back had one in a Pantera!!

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo Před 6 měsíci

      Dan from So Cal? If so Im the one that put your cam in

  • @lyndonbushnell8080
    @lyndonbushnell8080 Před 4 lety +22

    These Cleveland 351 engines were great in the Australian Ford XY GT Falcons

    • @buddyrojek9417
      @buddyrojek9417 Před 8 měsíci

      Also could buy the engines from factory and mate put in his ski boat 🚤 4v heads

    • @adriaandeleeuw8339
      @adriaandeleeuw8339 Před 3 měsíci

      I had one in an Australian 1978 XC FAIRMONT GXL.I wish I still had it.

  • @jeromyzwiers1452
    @jeromyzwiers1452 Před 6 lety +100

    That is one of the best engines ever made!!!

  • @actiniumanarchy9237
    @actiniumanarchy9237 Před 5 lety +8

    Cleveland’s are fantastic. My 393 Stroke Cleveland is putting out 650 HP N/A :)

  • @dad5650
    @dad5650 Před 5 lety +68

    I worked on a woman's Ford Torino that she said was running a little rough. I took the car for a test drive and put the gas pedal to the floor and it burned rubber all the way down the street. Lifted the hood and there sat a cleveland...great engine!

    • @gsfbffxpdhhdf7043
      @gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 Před 4 lety

      Must be used to driving 4 cylinder honda. This made 352hp at 5300rpm and 392hp at 3800rpm

    • @scorpiuswireless1
      @scorpiuswireless1 Před 3 lety +2

      Nice to know you abuse clients cars. Tool.

    • @dad5650
      @dad5650 Před 3 lety +2

      It wasn't a client, it was a friend and that's what it needed, a good carbon cleaning. It ran great! Tool

    • @dad5650
      @dad5650 Před 3 lety

      @@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 The Honda back then had a twin cylinder motorcycle engine....600, I think. They had just started making cars.

    • @scorpiuswireless1
      @scorpiuswireless1 Před 3 lety

      Yeah right.

  • @ScottKenny1978
    @ScottKenny1978 Před 4 lety +4

    Oh, man, that rumble takes me waaaaay back. Dad had a 351 in his cougar when I was a little kid (sold the car in 1980 or so), and that was my lullaby when I couldn't fall asleep.

  • @Mike383HK
    @Mike383HK Před 4 lety +15

    I used to eat all my friends with my 70 Cougar XR7 with the 351 C including 70 Novas with quads and I had a 2 barrel. I knew that C was special.

  • @joegaskill8742
    @joegaskill8742 Před 6 lety +43

    Nice seeing a Ford motor on your dyno Mr. Nick!!

    • @nickpanaritis4122
      @nickpanaritis4122 Před 6 lety +7

      joe Gaskill. Yes indeed. It is nice of course. That is what all American Muscle Engines is about and what I love. Good to see all kinds.

    • @aaronford7124
      @aaronford7124 Před 4 lety +3

      My combo is a zero decked 20 over 2v 351. I did light pocket work behind the valves and port matched the intake. I used an RPM intake and 1 3/4 headers. I also used the Pertronix with a recurve kit to bring timing in a bit earlier. My cam is the 265DEH grind from Comp. It runs like a scalded ape. Sounds great through chambered mufflers. Any more Cleveland content coming?

  • @robkeogh4593
    @robkeogh4593 Před 3 lety +4

    Here in Australia the 351C was THE engine for the ford brigade. Made famous here in Ford Australia's XY Falcon GTHO Phase 3. The hero car for the early 70's. They sell for over half a million with perfect examples going for almost One Million. Claimed output was around 380 bhp with a top speed of 140mph. The 351 was a brilliant engine, Aussie's never really took to the big blocks, perhaps because they just weren't an option for us here. A Ford American exec looking after Ford Aus (Bill Bourke) did have a big block shoe horned into an XW falcon back in the day though. It can be googled, along with the XY GTHO

  • @augienajera642
    @augienajera642 Před 5 lety +7

    Never was a Ford guy, but that 351 Cleveland is one Bad A.. engine! I use to work with a dude who have one of these motors in his 90's mustang and that ride would hall A..!

  • @paulmoffat9306
    @paulmoffat9306 Před 5 lety +7

    Back in 1969, I factory ordered a Mustang Grande with 351 Cleveland, 450 holly carb, Dual Exhaust, and AT. The 0-120mph was 13 seconds. BTW, it cost $CDN4,750 back then. That engine idled soo smooth, that on several occasions, I tried to start it, thinking it had stalled. The grinding of the starter said otherwise!.

    • @borisbash
      @borisbash Před 5 lety +1

      Paul Moffat: You related to Allan? The racing driver.

  • @nameundetected6867
    @nameundetected6867 Před 5 lety +6

    In Australia, in the 70s-80s the Cleveland was Ford’s king of v8’s, ford Australia redesigned the us engine and gave it thicker cylinder walls to overcome overheating issues that plagued the USA Cleveland engine. The Cleveland powered phase 4 falcon in 1972 was to have over 400hp, but the Australian government stepped in and stopped production claiming they were too dangerous to sell to the public, 😢

  • @DeliciousDeBlair
    @DeliciousDeBlair Před 6 lety +130

    Rule 1: Newer isn't always better!
    Rule 2: NEVER throw anything away!

    • @ckelley63
      @ckelley63 Před 5 lety +3

      Your so delicious!

    • @jquest43
      @jquest43 Před 5 lety

      mad ass you're a bad egg

    • @acts2211
      @acts2211 Před 5 lety +4

      Never throw it away a special it works perfectly when you take it off the car

    • @alansmollen
      @alansmollen Před 5 lety +2

      I gave up driving a car, because living in Japan One does not need a car.
      Your rules are totally on top dead center.

    • @kanishkdhanker0280
      @kanishkdhanker0280 Před 5 lety +1

      Nice to see you Outside of LinkedIn.

  • @alycestapleton
    @alycestapleton Před 6 lety +6

    1973 Ford Falcon XB GT coupe is the original MAD MAX car in the movie ,every Australian should know this . What a great iconic Australian muscle car I don’t work on that many V8 ‘s or older powered one’s ,but I do love my Australian V8 muscle cars . What a machine !!!! As we say here in Australia. Great work mates cheers

    • @mrmadunit3923
      @mrmadunit3923 Před 10 měsíci

      THESE GUYS AR CANADIAN LOL they may have never seen a falcon hardtop in real life,sad to say but that coupe is pig ugly and much bigger

  • @MightyCRD
    @MightyCRD Před 5 lety +8

    Good to see you are using a Motors auto repair manual for reference - best damn manuals ever.

  • @unclemikeb
    @unclemikeb Před 5 lety +9

    Wow, that's a healthy 351. Sounds sweet as can be.

  • @kennethbredow3098
    @kennethbredow3098 Před 6 lety +8

    A real first class show , Thanks Nick and your crew .

  • @clevo351
    @clevo351 Před 5 lety +19

    One of my favorite videos Nick , Bravo Brothermou! A set of good headers was worth at least another 25hp.

  • @russellflemister393
    @russellflemister393 Před 6 lety +44

    had a 1970 torino gt with a 351c 4v man i loved that engine made lots of power

    • @jglayden
      @jglayden Před 5 lety +5

      I have a 70' and a 71' Torino with the 351 4v and another engine on a stand. They all have the closed chamber heads.

    • @dalecarter4025
      @dalecarter4025 Před 5 lety +5

      Yea,that 70 and 71 was the best. I had a 73 4v 4 bolt main,spread bore carb,but it was lower compression. I think it was the Cleveland cj.

    • @unicornwolfteam718
      @unicornwolfteam718 Před 4 lety +2

      I had a 70 torino also. Raced it at the strip. With a sig erson Viking cam and double matching valve springs engine would touch 8,100 rpm. The track said if you race the car next time put a roll bar in it.

    • @bobski8203
      @bobski8203 Před 4 lety +4

      My Torino had a 351 Windsor, which sang sweetly at 5500 RPM, and a local guy had reworked it with a police pursuit transmission. I never heard it sing until I was cruising 140 taking my mother to the hospital. After that, I knew what I had. I thought about doing a B&B, but I was afraid the added confidence would be dangerous to my health and that of my neighbors, so I didn't do it. I regret selling the car when I was broke, but the guy that got it was a street-rodder and gave me $8k. Not bad for my $3k investment.
      I miss it, and I still hear it singing in my dreams.

    • @passinthru5992
      @passinthru5992 Před 4 lety +4

      I ordered 1970 Torino 351 Cleveland 4 speed,positraction with the shaker hood scoop. Wimbledon white,black guts. Very fun. I traded in my 1969 Mach 1 with 4 speed 351 wins or gulfstream aqua,gold stripes,white guts. What a blast those cars were.

  • @lomasck
    @lomasck Před 5 lety +8

    I had a T-Bucket 351Cleavland with a 400hp motor.Mild cam.Closed chamber 302 heads.Ported & ground 2.5cc out to lower compression as Leaded fuel was band .I had to run 12 deg static timing and 28 deg by 2500rpm .The 750 Vac secondary Holley Carbi had 4mm holes drilled into the butterflies to fix jetting problems.On the 1250 kg ,3 speed Auto T-bucket it did 11.8 second 1/4 mile runs.I had Chevy & Holden motors but this was the best design motor .It never let me down .

    • @nickpanaritis4122
      @nickpanaritis4122 Před 5 lety +2

      chris lomas. The 351 Cleveland is a great engine for performance.

  • @thomasauto4862
    @thomasauto4862 Před 4 lety +2

    I had a 1972 Ford Grand Torino, 351 Cleveland, FX transmission. It come with a 2BBL, I replaced it with a Holly 500 2BBL, then adapted a Chevy Quadrajet. Both carbs allowed me to drive 39mph, challenge anything even Vetts, I could Slam the Automatic shifter into 1st gear and wind out first gear to 55mph then shift up and would wrap the Speedo all the way around back to Zero. Oh do I miss her!! Never any mechanical failures anywhere on that car.

    • @oldpolak5203
      @oldpolak5203 Před 4 lety

      I used to do that to my poor Monza , my friends thought I was nuts !

  • @JJ-ym8bu
    @JJ-ym8bu Před 9 měsíci +1

    You have to love the way the engine gargles when it its in idle.

  • @mrwcp63
    @mrwcp63 Před 5 lety +3

    Mopar fan but like at all and I love the fact that Nick likes to bring out the best in every brand of car engine

  • @PlanetWatcher123
    @PlanetWatcher123 Před 5 lety +6

    Back then the Ford Motor Company factory shop manual published by Helms said to use silicone sealer in the corners where the block rear main gasket meets the pan gaskets. Us really old guys remember things like that from 50 years ago, but we forget where we put our eyeglasses
    down 5 minutes ago.

    • @pgtmr2713
      @pgtmr2713 Před 5 lety +1

      I have to do the same thing for my Mazda valve covers. So of course the guy I bought my engine from had the stuff all along the whole gasket path. Leaked something horrible. Everything else, the guy did right.

  • @wonkawilly5573
    @wonkawilly5573 Před 5 lety +9

    My favorite ford motor.

  • @brand-x7049
    @brand-x7049 Před 6 lety +10

    Ol' Cleve's feelin' positively young again - got its salty back, ready to hop some tires!

  • @markarrivi3818
    @markarrivi3818 Před 6 lety +18

    Mr Nick You Are The Best Man For The Job On Any Engine 👍👍👍👍

  • @TechnikMeister2
    @TechnikMeister2 Před 6 lety +5

    What I like about NG is that there is no bullshit. He is the best for getting the best out of fairly standard muscle engines. And yes, Nick, 351s always fart around with their electrics. But a good 351 will match a good 350 Chevvy. The only problem is the weight. Aluminium heads and intake would get over 400 out of this engine.

  • @markanthony3275
    @markanthony3275 Před 6 lety +2

    I can almost smell the unburned fuel ! You gotta love this Nick guy...he obviously likes what he does for a living!

  • @XA351GT
    @XA351GT Před 5 lety +46

    Jon Kaase has made a living building Clevelands and destroying SBC in Engine Masters competitions .

    • @caratcranker5874
      @caratcranker5874 Před 4 lety

      Really? can you give me a video of this? [sounds awesome.....]
      Oval and out...haha.

    • @johnwilburn
      @johnwilburn Před 4 lety +3

      @@caratcranker5874Just search the Engine Masters competitions on CZcams. He's built many of the less common Ford engines to win.

    • @robertfox977
      @robertfox977 Před 4 lety

      Maybe but. You can make SBC horsepower cheaper than any Ford engine

    • @johnwilburn
      @johnwilburn Před 4 lety +7

      Yeah..... yawn.... you can also dump nitrous on anything. It’s not how fast you go, but how you go fast.

    • @BobbyOfEarth
      @BobbyOfEarth Před 4 lety +3

      Yea, Bob Glidden had pretty good luck over the years doing the same thing in NHRA ProStock.

  • @joefwarren
    @joefwarren Před 6 lety +6

    By far my favorite classic engine. Ive owned 3 of those engines ( 2 mustangs and a torino gt) and they were all a blast to drive!

  • @duster0066
    @duster0066 Před 6 lety +4

    We're old now boys, but we got to live some very cool times. My fav and the one I learned most and raced was the "Bullet" combo. Mine was a 67 fastback 390 GT 4-speed and nodular 9 inch. They were slugs compared to new cars, so we had to learn how to tune them for speed. I called my 390 a baby 427 because that's how it was built and ran when I got done with it. It was a blast.

    • @yourhandlehere1
      @yourhandlehere1 Před 5 lety +1

      I learned to drive in a 390 station wagon when I was 12. It got put through hell by my older brothers, my sister liked to jump railroad tracks (all 4 wheels off the ground). One brother raced it at a dirt track on the weekend, got 2nd place, washed it and brought it home. (It's the family car, dad drives to work every day and we take vacations in)
      We traded it for a 73 Dart, saw it a few weeks later in a driveway almost folded in half with some slotted mags on it.

  • @johnnyzonta5173
    @johnnyzonta5173 Před 6 lety +3

    Another one of Nick's build .....awesome SHOP, whenever you go to his shop always a car show.........

  • @AnomalousOne1401
    @AnomalousOne1401 Před 6 lety +25

    I was sitting on my patio, unwinding after the night shift at work. The notice popped up. A new episode of Nick's Garage. I tapped the notification and started watching until the 66 Charger appeared. I suddenly realized something and paused it. Gotta get my black , Nick's Garage T-shirt. It's not the same without it. Mr Nick, I know you do what you do because you love what you do. All these late nights and weekends are going to burn you out. Set some time aside for you and your family. You'll never go wrong on that.

    • @NicksGarage
      @NicksGarage  Před 6 lety +5

      Right on, Dog.

    • @woodey028
      @woodey028 Před 6 lety +4

      C'mon Dog True words of WISDOM :)

    • @dillee9988
      @dillee9988 Před 3 lety

      It's not work when you enjoy what you do.

  • @ernestrodriguez4659
    @ernestrodriguez4659 Před 6 lety +30

    I am a big fan of the 390 but, that Cleveland is hands down nice!

    • @notsure7874
      @notsure7874 Před 3 lety

      The 390 is really a better engine in almost every way I can think of - particularly with mains priority oiling. They're also easier to find stuff for - just a bit heavier. But the 351C is a cool machine in its own right.

    • @timclaus8313
      @timclaus8313 Před 3 lety

      @@notsure7874 Once you go to an aluminum top end and manifold, lightens them up pretty good.

    • @jamesbaskins6351
      @jamesbaskins6351 Před 3 lety +1

      I had. 390 in my first car. It was s 63 .i had a 71. Fastback it got stolen from me

    • @hessranch
      @hessranch Před 7 měsíci

      The 390 was such a great engine. We had one in our ranch truck. It could pull a ton and also haul ass. Best dual purpose engine Ford ever built.

  • @NVRAMboi
    @NVRAMboi Před 6 lety +36

    Great video, guys. Really nice to see some Ford power on the dyno for a change. That thing believes it's a BOSS 351 powerplant.

    • @dalecarter4025
      @dalecarter4025 Před 5 lety +6

      They had said that the boss 351 was faster than the 429scj

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Před 4 lety +2

      @@dalecarter4025 helps being about 400lbs lighter!

  • @MayfieldCreekObservatory
    @MayfieldCreekObservatory Před 2 lety +2

    We stuffed a 4v Cleveland in a 1988 Ford Ranger back in 1990. Dropped 9” Rear End in it and had lots of fun. It had a split duration camshaft solid lifters. I didn’t know much about cars and engines but my brother in law and another friend engineered that project. I would roll around the streets of Western Kentucky and that thing just had a sound like never heard since and it was a beast. People would just gawk at it. It was more fun than I ever had in my life. I was originally going to put a 302 in it but then we thought nah let’s put a Cleveland in it. Lol.

    • @billdang3953
      @billdang3953 Před 21 dnem

      Imagine if it had the Cleveland's relative, the 400 with 500+ HP and 500+ Ft lbs torque. It would be hard getting rear tires to last with an engine like that.

  • @chrisbarry7782
    @chrisbarry7782 Před 4 lety +2

    Nick the mad genius.

  • @johntempest267
    @johntempest267 Před 5 lety +41

    '72 351HO Mustang would flat out fly!
    Never got any pre-race respect.
    Post race got accused of hiding the bottle.
    The Cleveland was a diamond.

    • @joeross6523
      @joeross6523 Před 5 lety +1

      Too bad they're so damn ugly!

    • @lilythomson881
      @lilythomson881 Před 4 lety +3

      @@joeross6523 There is NOTHING ugly about that engine.

    • @joeross6523
      @joeross6523 Před 4 lety +5

      @@lilythomson881 I was talking about '72 mustangs, they're ugly as hell.

    • @lilythomson881
      @lilythomson881 Před 4 lety +3

      @@joeross6523 I disagree there as well. The 71 to 73 Mustang Fastback was a gorgeous car. Now that Mad Max car that this engine is going back into, well, that's another matter.

    • @slyane7320
      @slyane7320 Před 4 lety +2

      Had a 72 Mach1,351CJ,C6,& a 3.25 9in...dang near bulletproof, the Cleveland made power up higher in the rpm range than other small blocks.

  • @steveanderson5888
    @steveanderson5888 Před 6 lety +7

    Another Badass video from you Nick.! You'll find that oil leak that customer was very happy about his engine!! Keep up the good work!!!

  • @billyd7882
    @billyd7882 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Old school engine guy for sure. No ear plugs. Tunes by sound and feel.

  • @johnsmith7622
    @johnsmith7622 Před 5 lety +2

    Cruised main in late 70's... 71 Cougar with a 351C... Could smoke the tires at the turn around so badly... cars had to wait a minute to see to drive!!! GREAT TIMES... GREAT GIRLFRIENDS!

  • @HowardJrFord
    @HowardJrFord Před rokem +6

    One horsepower per cube on an engine that doesn't even have headers is impressive .

    • @scottford1091
      @scottford1091 Před 11 měsíci

      And a stock cast iron low rise intake too!

  • @tacbear
    @tacbear Před 5 lety +7

    Back in the day I had a 71 Torino GT 351C4v that ran 14.08@100+ on street tires!

    • @wreckanchor
      @wreckanchor Před 5 lety +1

      My boss has a 71 Torino GT with the Original 351 C in it just wasting away in his fathers yard. C6 & 9 inch rear etc. its all there but I would guess rust has claimed the body.

  • @2xl830
    @2xl830 Před 2 lety +2

    Had a new 73’ Torino fastback.
    Medium blue/white vinyl top.
    Fairly common car around town.
    Except this was what made mine
    different from all the rest of them.
    It has a 351C with a 4V carb.
    Blue Ben h seats and stuck in the
    middle coming out the floor was a
    Hurst 4 speed and two chrome
    exhaust tips coming out the rear.
    Topped off with I believe were the
    Firestone 500’s 15” and 15” turbo
    wheels all the way around.
    Big car.Heavy looking car.
    Remember being at the local restaurant
    with curb service and “Me and Mrs.
    Jones” playing on the AM radio.
    I wasn’t smart enough to realize what
    I had !!! Life goes on though !!!

  • @buckeyduck
    @buckeyduck Před 6 lety +10

    The Clevland engine was developed at the height of the muscle car era and Ford, along with GM and Chrysler, were fudging hp numbers to beat the insurance companies. The NHRA knew this and classified cars in stock and super stock according to real world hp numbers. Not to surprising that a 351C with 4V heads and a slightly bigger cam made 352 hp.

  • @buckeyduck
    @buckeyduck Před 6 lety +4

    Nice build, Nick. Great channel. Thanks for sharing.

  • @rikiwakwak
    @rikiwakwak Před rokem +2

    The Cleveland,,, best sounding engine ford ever built ; )

  • @xxkingslayemxxgamer5553
    @xxkingslayemxxgamer5553 Před rokem +4

    That Cleveland is just starting to breathe at 5000 rpm

    • @alexcorona
      @alexcorona Před 6 měsíci

      It’s got a stock cam so that’s all it’s got. They really need a Intake cam and headers and it’s not hard making 100-150HP over stock. You can’t say that about most engines, to hit those numbers it required a head swap.

  • @johndelta00
    @johndelta00 Před 6 lety +7

    Some day, hopefully soon, I will be as happy at work and eager to stay late as Nick is. You are living the dream my friend and I have a feeling that you are aware of that fact.

  • @mschiffel1
    @mschiffel1 Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent numbers with cast iron exhaust manifolds !

  • @marcmielhausen1971
    @marcmielhausen1971 Před 6 lety +2

    If I suspected rear main seal leak (or any oil leak not related to dyno fittings), the first thing I would have done is hook up the PCV to eliminate crankcase pressure. I'm surprised a seasoned veteran like Nick wouldn't have tried that first.

    • @nickpanaritis4122
      @nickpanaritis4122 Před 6 lety +1

      marcmielhausen1971. I am very well aware of crankcase pressure build up. PCV valve was working, and also the breather was OK also. And yes, it was a Dyno fitting at the rear of the engine, just under the rag.

    • @marcmielhausen1971
      @marcmielhausen1971 Před 6 lety +1

      Sorry, but I can see in the video that the PCV valve isn't connected to manifold vacuum and the other crankcase vent isn't connected to an air breather (venturi vacuum). I'm glad it was something simple and that is definitely one stout engine you've built.

  • @1483samurai
    @1483samurai Před 6 lety +3

    Love that sound. Gave me goosebumps when if fired.

  • @82lube
    @82lube Před 6 lety +5

    LOVE Your Work, Awesome Job Nick

  • @gallant19650
    @gallant19650 Před 4 lety +2

    i had a Grand torino 73 for my first car with a 351 C and loved it and i did a lot of crazy thing ....that car I LOVED IT AND MISSSSSSSS IT A LOT

  • @ckmNtA
    @ckmNtA Před 5 lety +4

    1 HP for every C.I. naturally aspirated. That's impressive!

  • @unicornwolfteam718
    @unicornwolfteam718 Před 4 lety +6

    If you really care about your engine and you use a flat tappet cam, start the engine with soft valve springs. Then switch them back. Don't take short cuts.
    Its hard to explain but if you are any good at being a mechanic, hang the#1 plug out on side of block well grounded put your finger near spark plug hole. Turn engine over, don't pump the gas' and notice when spark and compression happens. If you are good you know when you are close. Replace plug. Pump gas sparingly.
    This is simplified but if you are good, you can always start an engine quick and easy this way. I have done this hundreds of times.

  • @wickedmainah950
    @wickedmainah950 Před 4 lety +4

    This guy never worked a day in his life, you can tell he loves what he does.

  • @stangtheoriginal1659
    @stangtheoriginal1659 Před 4 lety +1

    Delish posted "NEVER throw anything away"...I've spent several decades making Blue-Oval things REALLY LOUD, and I always had a collection of scrap distributor shafts pulled outta' the housing, with timing cog knocked off. Chuck-it-up in the ol' Craftsman 3/8", stick it back in the hole, and let 'er rip until you see the rockers gettin' "buttery". It also gives a positive confirmation that the oil pump is working, and you can trust the gauges...

  • @gjmob
    @gjmob Před 6 lety +9

    Thank god they didn't stuff up another XB Falcon Coupe to make one of these.

  • @amberwark3267
    @amberwark3267 Před 6 lety +10

    one horse per cube right off the bat!

    • @tragiclife9760
      @tragiclife9760 Před 4 lety

      1 hp per cube is a weak knees hot rod. I've built many sbc,s that pit out 2hp per cube and were streetable,not saying stock,but who builds a stock hot rod

  • @timmitzlaff8960
    @timmitzlaff8960 Před 4 lety +1

    The more young guys that hang around you the better. Your knowledge is gold.

  • @joeconley1981
    @joeconley1981 Před 5 lety +2

    Wow! That's impressive. True craftsmanship. Love your channel.

  • @CS_247
    @CS_247 Před 5 lety +26

    Those Clevelands sound just lovely at idle. Done a few for Panteras, they can make some sick power, with the right bits.
    Loads of fun on quad webbers!!

    • @SuspenseESCAPEremastered
      @SuspenseESCAPEremastered Před 5 lety +6

      Of all the classic Ford Muscle cars I had during the 70's and 80's the '70 Mach 1 351C was my favorite. And you're right! They have a sound all their own.

    • @patrickmcdonald3427
      @patrickmcdonald3427 Před 4 lety +3

      @@SuspenseESCAPEremastered I had a '70 notchback with a 302/3 speed while in high school, then bought '73 Mach with it's original engine replaced with a 351C 2 BBL. it turned out a rocker broke, so I found a '73 351C Cobra Jet engine and all was REALLY WELL!

    • @PlymouthVT
      @PlymouthVT Před 4 lety +3

      You had me at Pantera sir.

  • @dimadee
    @dimadee Před 6 lety +6

    Hey Nick, love your adventures in the dyno room!

  • @cavemanballistics6338
    @cavemanballistics6338 Před rokem +3

    NICK saw something he didn't like. It was the big BLUE OVAL on the valve cover because Nick loves NOPARS!
    This engine would easily make another 20HP if it was twisted to 6200rpm. Back in the day it was proven that FORD under estimated the HP on all their High Performance engines.

  • @deansnead2647
    @deansnead2647 Před 5 lety +2

    Nick's Garage is awesome, thank you very much.

  • @soldierski1669
    @soldierski1669 Před 5 lety +2

    In the MAD MAX movie, where MAX meets up with the guys to see the "Interceptor" for the first time, that engine was a PONTIAC block.
    I read it an article in HPP "High Performance Pontiac".
    It's been years, but it had to do with how the Aussies used to use PONTIAC blocks like LS swaps today. They didn't have a FORD 6-71 blower setup, so the "Money Shot" is a PMD mill.

  • @kingearl2596
    @kingearl2596 Před 6 lety +3

    Another Masterpiece from Nick - thank you!

  • @redroo12
    @redroo12 Před 5 lety +4

    That's great proof of how easy it is to make reliable HP and torque out of these old girls. That why they were used by Ford here in Australia for so long. They don't have to have spastic cams and mods to make respectable, reliable HP.

  • @ourv9603
    @ourv9603 Před 2 lety +1

    NICK,
    Tell you a funny story. Some years after Ford intro the Cleveland 351
    Ford needed more power for their station wagon line. One of their
    engineers came up with the idea to punch out a 351 to 400 add cleveland
    heads and the combo worked great! it increased the power to just where
    Ford needed it. SO, while DIY were scouring every wrecking yard in north
    america for 351 with cleveland heads, those same yards were probably
    full of station wagons with the 400 in them.
    !

  • @Buzbikebklyn1
    @Buzbikebklyn1 Před 6 lety +2

    Call me old.
    I once built a copy of my Dad's Imperial.
    He wanted it stripped.
    After I painted the car with it's black over gold motif, we pulled out the interior.
    All the power options were gone.
    We put in a 6 point roll cage, a genuine Hurst automatic shifter with roll control.
    A 472ci 6 pack.
    Heavy duty brakes.
    We got the monster to turn 12s.
    Now, it seems a shame to do what we did to the Imp.
    Call me old, but I want a comfortable car.
    Fast and comfortable don't have to be mutual exclusive now.
    You rock Nick!
    The way of the muscle car will never die.
    Tommy

  • @darrellterry7209
    @darrellterry7209 Před 4 lety +5

    Had a 351 H.O. in a 70 Maverick grabber 4 speed quick change a slight high rise with a 1150 double pumper back in the day it was hard to beat.

    • @wendlormsby
      @wendlormsby Před 4 lety

      You would have been quicker with a 650, vacuum secondary Holley carb, Darrell...and got way better gas mileage!

  • @7s29
    @7s29 Před 6 lety +157

    The Cleveland 351 is a great engine.

    • @nickpanaritis4122
      @nickpanaritis4122 Před 6 lety +9

      7s29. I agree with you 100%.

    • @Frank289100
      @Frank289100 Před 5 lety +40

      @7s29, AND THE CLEVELAND STILL LIVES.
      THE 351 CLEVELAND TOTALLY AND SINGLE HANDEDLY CHANGED THE FACE OF PROSTOCK DRAG RACING FOREVER. THE 351 CLEVELAND DOMINATED PROSTOCK TO THE POINT WHERE THEY MADE THE FORD'S CARRY 250LBS MORE WEIGHT AND THEY STILL WON. THE NHRA THEN LET THE CHEVY'S/CHRYSLER/ETC REMOVE MORE WEIGHT AND THE FORD'S ONCE AGAIN STILL WON. THE EMINANT DOOM OF THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY WAS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND THE NIGHTMARE GM FEARED WOULD SOON BECOME A REALITY OF PROSTOCK BEING TOTALLY POWERED BY THE 351 CLEVELAND MOTORS. THEN IN 1983 THE NHRA (ANOTHER DIVISION OF GM) HAD THEIR HENCHMEN IN THE NHRA MANDATED THE 500ci RULE AS A PLOY TO STOP FORD FROM DOMINATING PROSTOCK ANYMORE. SO THE NHRA ALLOWS GM ALONG WITH WARREN JOHNSON TO BUILD A NEW ENGINE CALLED "THE DRCE - DRAG RACE COMPETITION ENGINE". SO GM TAKES THE OLDSMOBILE BLOCK AND STUFFS IT LIKE A THANKSGIVING DAY TURKEY WITH A CAM AND ROTATING ASSEMBLY FROM A BIG BLOCK CHEVY AND THEN WARREN JOHNSON HAS A BIG PAIR OF FORD CLEVELAND HEADS MADE FOR IT. SO SINCE 1983 TO PRESENT WHAT CHEVY HAS BEEN WINNING WITH IS A FORD CLEVELAND ENGINE. THIS IS THE REASON FORD DOESN'T GET INVOLVED IN PROSTOCK RACING. BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY FORD POWERED. AT THIS POINT BOB GLIDDEN GOES OUT AND GETS HIMSELF A BOSS 429 ENGINE AND SLAUGHTERS ALL OF THEM. EVERY YEAR AS GM/CHEVY GOT FASTER WITH THERE GENERIC FORD CLEVELAND ENGINE. BOB GLIDDEN WOULD SLIGHTLY PORT THE BOSS HEADS KEEPING HIMSELF AHEAD OF THE CHEVY'S AND THE REST OF THEM INCLUDING THE HEMI'S. IT REACHED THE POINT WHERE FORD AND BOB GLIDDEN WERE GETTING READY TO CAST A NEW FORD BOSS HEAD AND MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN NAMED "THE SUPER BOSS HEADS". AT THIS POINT THE CHEATERS THE NHRA TO PUT CHEVY AND KEEP CHEVY IN THE WINNERS CIRCLE TOLD FORD AND BOB GLIDDEN THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE A 1000 PAIRS OF THESE HEADS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IF THEY WANTED TO RACE. THE NHRA KNEW THE BOSS MOTORS WERE MADE IN LIMITED NUMBERS AND A MARKET FOR THESE HEADS DIDN'T EXIST. OBVIOUSLY THEY KNEW FORD WASN'T GOING TO SPEND COUNTLESS MILLIONS TO PRODUCE HEADS FOR A MOTOR THAT NO LONGER EXISTED. FORD AND BOB GLIDDEN THEN TOLD THE NHRA TO GO "F" THEMSELVES. THIS IS HOW FORD'S DOMINANCE IN PROSTOCK CAME TO AN END. IN 1980 BOB GLIDDEN DID SWITCH OVER TO CHRYSLER AND WON BEATING THE FORD'S ONLY FOR ONE REASON. LIKE THE CHEVY'S THE CHRYSLERS ALSO BENEFITTED FROM THE WEIGHT BREAK OF NOT HAVING TO CARRY 250 MORE POUNDS AND ALSO THE NHRA ALLOWING THEM TO TAKE OFF EVEN MORE WEIGHT ON TOP OF THE WEIGHT FORD WAS CARRING. THE FORD CLEVELAND MOTOR WAS THE ULTIMATE IN POLY ANGLE HEAD DESIGN. IT IS SO STATE OF THE ART THAT DOEN'T GEY ANY BETTER. IT IS HARD TO IMPROVE ON IT INITIAL DESIGN. TODAY YOUR SYMMETRICAL RACE MOTORS LABEDED AS CHEVY ARE ACTUALLY FORD CLEVELAND DESIGNS. YOUR MOUNTAIN MOTORS LABELED AS CHEVY ARE FORD BOSS 429 DESIGNS. THE ADVANTAGE OF THE BOSS HAS OVER THE HEMI LIES IN ITS CRESENT SHAPE COMBUSTION CHAMBER. THE CRESENT SHAPE, ANGLES THE FLOW ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE INTAKE AND EXHAUST OFF SETTING THE VALVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE INTAKE AND EXHAUST SO IT IS NOT STRAIGHT. WHAT THIS DOES IS SLOW DOWN THE FUEL/AIR MIXTURE GIVING IT ENOUGH TIME TO COMPLETELY BURN FOR THE MOST EFFICIENT MAXIMUM BURN FOR MAXIMUM POWER. ON THE OTHER HAND THE HEMI DESIGN BEING STRAIGHT THROUGH ACROSS, DOESN'T ALLOW THE AIR/FUEL MIXTURE ENOUGH TIME TO FULLY BURN CREATING INEFFICIENCIES. THE CLEVELAND IS OF A SIMILAR DESIGN TO THE BOSS AND THE REASON THE CHEVY "DRCE" DOMINATES OVER THE HEMI FOR MANY YEARS IN PROSTOCK.

    • @hoey3510
      @hoey3510 Před 5 lety +2

      7s29 ?

    • @hoey3510
      @hoey3510 Před 5 lety +1

      6 pack hey 😁🤣🤣

    • @petroldevo9934
      @petroldevo9934 Před 5 lety +4

      It depends if it's a Windsor or a Cleveland.

  • @jamesmackinlay4477
    @jamesmackinlay4477 Před 4 lety +2

    Cooper River Dragstrip just outside of Summerville SC (It was 1988) Mustang 351 Cleveland 4 speed running against a 70 Chevelle LS6 454 4 speed the Mustang won 3 out of 3 races by 2 car lengths every time. That's when I gained a real respect for the Cleveland engine.

  • @agentnippler9966
    @agentnippler9966 Před 5 lety +4

    Had a 1970 Cougar XR7 with the 351 Cleveland. Was a fun car.

  • @AltheRad
    @AltheRad Před 6 lety +5

    J'aime le dual spark , I had a 428CJ with dual spark. The Carb I converted to manual secondaries, mechanical linkage got rid of vacuum spark advance as well. I went to centrifugal advance, so easy to change. Carry on doing this as long as you can my fellow Canadian! Hey also enjoy the Fete en Quebec!

  • @stephane4392
    @stephane4392 Před 6 lety +2

    Hey nick ,i discover your channel randomly,the first video i see was the one at the orange julep in mtl,im from mtl too,now im in ste Sophie,i Watch a lot of car channels but i swear your the best car channel of them all !

  • @1darryloflife
    @1darryloflife Před 6 lety +2

    Ah the old clevo. Having done many hours with those engines there are a few tricks to apply for a reliable engine. The cooling system is NUMBER 1 as Ford stopped making the ORIGINAL bucket thermostats. The pumps are atrocious so that is a very important must do. To give you an idea we eventually achieved fuel economy of 580 km using 60 liters of LPG or as you guys know it as propane. Power was never dynoed but I managed to tear engines mounts continually. You have a long way to go guys.

  • @johnnyhawkins43
    @johnnyhawkins43 Před 5 lety +5

    I wouldn't trade a blownup Cleveland for all the Windsor engines made!!!!!!!

  • @acts2211
    @acts2211 Před 5 lety +3

    That's insane and original distributor for 40 years but you know there's something very funny sometimes old really is better there's a quality of the workmanship that is unsurpassed today