Relaunching the Gemini 12 Part 2
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Paul Lubliner conducts a scouting trip to the location where Fox filmed the 1965 crash of the Gemini 12...Red Rock Canyon in California's Mojave Desert. Plans are made to restage the crash with a 1:1 replica of the original Gemini miniature. The big day starts with the screw assembling the rigs and wire for the Gemini's flight. But it's not all smooth sailing!
A truly great addition to history of Television production. Thanks so much.
Gee Wizzzz, thanks
This is simply amazing! I’m as excited as I was as a child!!
Glad you enjoyed it.
I believe when I say this I am speaking for thousands of people… You are making a dream come true for many of us since we were young children and we first saw the amazing trailer for Lost in Space when we first witnessed the beautiful flying saucer flying by that alien outcropping of rocks. I have always thought it was one of the most beautiful sequences of any science-fiction film ever done and you guys are reliving it and bringing it back to life for all of us ...what a wonderful gift! Thank you so much for all the work and these wonderful videos!
Thanks for the kind comments!
Oh, man, bummer, that was such a huge task for three guys, amazing attemp,, though.
Hard to imagine how many crew did the original and what all resources they had to draw upon!
The pain is palpable, but I'm ready for part 3!
Four Guys.
This entire series would in no way feel out of place in the special features on the Blu-ray.
You guys should all be very proud with this entertaining, informative, classy and astoundingly well produced project.
Much respect
I truly appreciate your saying those kind words!
Nice Seaview!
Amazing! I'm almost jumping out of my chair! OMG, the crashing scene is one of those stand-alone, stand-out moments in this kid fan's life. Throughout the decades it's always made me feel giddy, I just can't help it. That particular scene inspired me to draw umpteen drawings throughout my childhood & teen years of different spaceships' final moments before they struck the surface of a planet. They were my "crash landing" phase of my artistic phase. And since then even to this day if I see watch a movie with a crash-landing scene my mind's eye always goes back to the iconic LIS Jupiter/Gemini glide through the pinnacles. Trust me, nothing compares.
Glen and my upcoming "Effects Reel" also depicts the lift-off as well as the crash itself, something not see in the original!
@@paullubliner6221 rock and roll!
DUDE!!!! When that saucer slid and dipped at the end towards part 3, I got more thrills than any of the movies I have seen in the last 20 years!! Keep going, this is great!
I am beside myself with edge of my seat giddiness. Unbelievably historic and amazing. I can't even believe what I'm seeing here. WOW!
Thanks, Rich. Paul and I were inspired by the comments on our first video to do a follow. Glad that you and other fans are liking it.
Aside from everything else, you guys are excellent filmmakers.
I love the way you so skillfully captured it all.
Thank you, Brian!
@@gemini12channel58 Thank you!!
I’m just a tired old man with an undying love for that amazing old show. What you guys did here was nothing short of amazing. Actually, my wife had to laugh at me because I got all teary-eyed! Thank you so much for helping me relive a part of my childhood. Sidenote; I bet you could make a million bucks selling versions of that small lighted 3-D printed Gemini. I know I would line up to buy two of them, one for play and one to display!
Thank for the very kind words. It's the viewers like you we really made these videos for.
This is turning into an exciting miniseries! The Gemini looks amazing suspended in the air! Gives me even more appreciation as to how innovative Irwin was!
What a most beautiful and otherwise fantastic reproduction of the Gemini (time: 9:18)!!!
Incredible amount of work put into this. You are true fans.
Simply awesome. Such impressive dedication 👏
LOVE THIS! You guys are great for going through this and making it available for the fans. so nice.
Wow! This is so cool!! I really appreciate the effort you went to in making this recreation of the famous crash sequence. Also makes you realize all the work that went into the original shots although they had a lot more people to make it easier.
Some friends and I did a few Lydecker shots for a short film we did. I can still hear one of the guys saying, "He! We'll do it the old school way! It'll be easy!" I think back on that and laugh, and laugh and laugh....
And the drama Builds! Another nice video.
LAST WEEK You recall ....
@@wolfstar_productions Yeah...we should have used a 'cliffhanger' format!
Thanks for doing this, guys ... you've gone to *so* much effort - and it really is appreciated. The final effect promises to be spectacular, but I'm totally blown away by what I've seen already. 👏
Great job guys... Wow what trials out there. Great video.
Can feel the hard and arduous work behind this series, what a fantastic effort & hats off to you all, just amazing & loving the sight of Gemini 12 in mid air. Count Down on for part 3 ))
WTF? Dragging this out for a 3rd video?
You guys are incredible and your work is fantastic... imagine planning and designing all this with a slide rule!!!..and bringing this all to reality with 1964/5 technology!!!!.....
They neither used nor needed slide rules to do this. Slide rules themselves are easy to use and if large enough, do provide ample decimal points for accuracy. "Today's Technology" is alarmingly restrictive in many regards towards problem solving with associated shortcomings. I use both approaches as need be.
Awesome video .... The anticipation is excruciating , I'm on my way to part 3 .... I'll see you there 👍👍 👀
This was a Thrill & Joy for all of us fans.
Wow! You actually speak for all of the fans?
93rd Ok this was COOL ......as a Boomer born 60'....who grew up in the 60's/70's ..Loved that show
AWSOME PRODUCTION, MIKE!
An outstanding endeavor. You guys are amazing. Paul you are a natural on the camera ✨👍⭐️
A hard job for sure but you will do it just fabulous 🍻. Now on to part three.
Well....?
Love it, love it!!! Sorry for all your technical difficulties, but these are the same kinds of things the original filmmakers went through, I'm sure! Love seeing your dedication, your attention to detail, and this LIS fan dream come true! (And next time you need a desert schlepper, let me know!!!)
Seriously B.B., we could have used your help!
@@paullubliner6221 Would love to lend a hand! Let me know if you ever do something like this again. I work for an airline, so I'm free to jump on a plane and travel. Some friends and I on an LIS forum have talked for years about going to Red Rock and Trona to shoot photos and videos, and to be 12 years old again!
Hey, nice Seaview in the background! 05:40
HOW about that!
This is just amazing you are doing this! Wishing you success, look forward to seeing the next installment!
You videos are great. I can relate to this - we used a smaller J2 prop and flew it past that pinnacle in 2013 and I'll never forget the surprise about the sagging wires. We kept tightening and tightening etc. We finally flew it past but it wasn't without lots to trial end error. I also remember the slippage and sliding around on the rocks. Very treacherous landscape. Fun times!
Is your video posted on CZcams?
The best reality show on TV now. When’s the Gemini 12 model available? :-)
I used to do all sorts of flying saucer special effects using a hubcap from a Dodge van. Some of that footage survived from Super 8 on to VHS...
I actually toyed with putting an ad in starlog magazine when it first came out. Genuine UFO footage.
I'm amazed how the cables don't seem visible at all in the original pilot.
That's mostly due to the smoke you see in the original, a luxury we were not permitted.
This was a very nice video, Paul. It looks like you folks had a wonderful time doing it. I wish I was there to help out... but I am afraid I'd be more like Doctor Smith and be reading a book somewhere in the near background. In the words of Doctor Smith… I paraphrase… I am glad that you are still young at heart, growing up is not really worth it. Be well.
Good Grief Donald... I, Mike, Glen and Adam, we were all tense as all get-up the entire time in order to get the footage in the can AND before the (weather reported) wind started blowing (gusts reached 60MPH as we were striking the shoot) and also not fall off the top peak (where I was situated while hanging onto the upper tower the entire time!) In addition, angst re: that the miniature NOT fall onto the rocks and get smashed (that almost happened) and basically survive. Then the anxiety over anticipating packing it all up and the seemingly innumerable 2/3 mile hikes with heavy gear in tow back to the vehicles.
Afterwards Glen told me "You had to see it running down the wires, ....it looked REAL". That from were he was situated. I only saw it (obviously) from directly behind the ship on the top of the peak and tried very hard to not let the thing smash into the lower tower. As for a "Wonderful Time", --- well, uh, okay.
Very cool!
Wow! Thx!! Impressive!!
Please make this available as a kit!!
How about as a built-up?
Cant wait
Is this bitchin or what? Just watched this for the 5th time and it doesn't get old. Life long modeller and fan of sci-fi across the board. Grew up on this stuff and always wanted a kit of this ship, but they didn't exist back then. (But at least I had the Remco robot and the rifle.). I was living in the LA area in the 80's and considered bidding on the model, but chickened out cause I was sure I would be out bid, after the $500 minimum bid, which would have been all I had. I was pissed when no one else bid on it! I could've had it! But it ended up in the right hands, Paul, cause I don't know if I could've done the fantastic job you did. I think I dodged a bullet, seeing what you went through restoring it. Well, now I have several models of the Jupiter, from the little diecast job up to the big Moebius kit, which I just got 2 months ago. Glad I didn't build my big Lunar Models kit yet, cause now I'm gonna make it into the Gemini 12, after your videos built a fire under me! It will be a good companion piece to the Moebius Jupiter model. I also have 7 inch vacuform from SFMA to build as a Gemini with a scratch built launch gantry as seen in the show. Since the Moebius kit has TWO fusion cores, I will use the one with the fins extended for the Gemini and the one without for the Jupiter. To re-create the segmented light diffuser inside the viewport as seen in the auction photos- and I assume in the show-I'm using a simple plastic sowing bobbin holder, just right for this 1/35th scale kit. The "shower curtain" look on your restoration is interesting, but I wanted to see how accurate I could get to the filming model, including the lighting system. And thanks for giving me what I believe is the most accurate version of the navigation scanner dish in the top dome, though we're left to scratch our heads on how this can be reconciled with the nav dome in the ship is shown rising up from the deck and into the upper dome, having seen it both ways on film. (?) Anyway, as a modeller and retired filmmaker and SF fan, you've gotten me excited to get back to my Lost in Space models again! I also have an 81/2 inch vacuform from Lunar Models and THREE of the 1-foot Polar Lights kits to build 3 ways: Flight mode, Landing mode and Static display mode, with complete interior and using the diecast Chariot and Space Pod in their respective places in the ship. And that's not to mention my Trend masters Jupiter, the Robot in several scales, and the regular models of the Chariot, Space Pod, and The Derelict. (And that's not to mention the rest of my stash of models on all the other movies and tv shows!). I won't run out of work anytime soon! Anyway, thanks so much for sharing this story with all of us, as I for one always wondered what happened to this model after the auction all those years ago. And thanks for giving me a little kick in the ass to get back to work on this project! (So many models, so little time!) I know I will be watching your videos several more times for inspiration when I'm working on this, as well as my DVD'S of the show. Despite the silliness, we couldn't look away from the great eye candy of the show, which still remains a closet nostalgic guilty pleasure for those of us who were there back then. Now I would only like to know where or if it's on display for public viewing as Andre said he would like to do. Thanks for the look back!
How about re-posting this ....but: WITH PARAGRAPHS, so that it's legible?
I'm not trying to offend you here, but not one of those saucers what you mentioned is actually a true "Scale Model". The hull's contours are wrong on all of them. The 32 perimeter fins on the Fusion Core are grossly oversized. etc. etc.---They're all simply "toys".
---Were you aware that I produced an exceptionally accurate and extremely limited production GEMINI 12 Museum-level quality replica with fully FUNCTIONAL Fusion Core (as in actually spinning) with the correct number (6) brightly glowing, lighted "orbs"? And those exact scale Fusion Cores were sheathed in gleaming custom made. photo-etched nickel-silver, along with an etched soldered together Nickel-Silver spinning top bubble radar. The hull's master pattern was 3D printed (at 20% full size) from the actual and original filmed miniature Gemini 12 from "Lost in Space" that I had had digitized?
@@paullubliner6221 Hey, Paul, I'm jazzed to get your reply! Sorry about the lack of paragraphs in my messages, but I am new to this whole online thing, and still in the learning curve, trying to figure out how to do this on this phone. At least I put space between the sentences and try to use proper punctuation. I'll get better at it! I have watched All your videos several times, including your recent updates, and love the replicas you made, as well as the restoration of the original. And yeah, you're right: the commercialy available kits are not really accurate, but they're the best we have to work with, and experienced modellers like you and I can do the modifications to make it more accurate. The Polar Lights kits (the 1-footers) are, as you know, a compromise between the various researched contours of the ship, and I love how you give us a good look at the actual, true original configurations in your videos. Matching the kit parts to that is a difficult proposition, but we can still make a good representation of the ship. The Polar Lights kits even explain the difference in the instructions. But I plan to make changes in the various builds. The big vacuform Lunar Models kit seems to have the bottom half closest to the shape of the Gemini 12; not perfect, of course, but acceptable. I can file down the fins on the fusion core to make them more accurate, and enlarge the viewport to match the Gemini, and other little touches. This goes for the little 7-inch vacuform as well. I'm building one of my three Polar kits in 1/48 scale and pairing it with the Chariot from the Cyclops kit, as seen in the pilot and first few episodes, and I'm going to modify it to have clear windows instead of decals. This will be flying mode/landed mode without landing legs and no lower decks. The next one will be a 1/72 scale with upper and lower decks and extendable/retractable landing gear. The third one will be a static display where the three levels can be lifted and viewed, with the Johnny Lighting die cast Chariot and Space Pod in the ship as we saw in the show. I may build a fusion core level into this one, to build a Jupiter with everything we ever saw in the ship. I'm thinking of doing the same thing with the big Moebius kit, but haven't decided yet. I was going to do that with the Lunar Models kit, until I saw your videos and knew I was going to have to build the Gemini! So, of course I had to get the Moebius kit to build a Jupiter. You cost me money, Paul! But I don't mind, it's worth it. Meanwhile, the spare lower deck and landing gear parts from kit one will make a custom model of a Testor's S4 UFO, which I'm calling the Jupiter 8, a descendant of the original ship. And my Derelict kit has three Jupiter's in it, at 1/350 scale, so I plan to one with my Enterprise model of the same scale. (Had a vision in my head since I was a kid watching the shows of the Jupiter 2 landing in the hangar deck of the Enterprise! Now I might finally realize it!). And each Jupiter model will include figures to matching scale. So, while it's hard to build a Jupiter that's absolutely 100 percent accurate, it should be remembered that this stuff is for fun and the enjoyment of the nostalgia of it, and that it's possible to become too much of a "rivet counter" in this hobby, which can drive you mad. (Been there!). Anyway, thanks for contacting me, and I would enjoy further chatting with you. Like I said, I'll be watching your videos again and again as I work on this stuff, though my results may be slow in coming. So, as a retired filmmaker, I could talk about this stuff all day, and about your involvement in film prop/model making. But for now, I'll just say thanks for the great stuff, and best wishes to you! And please forgive my lack of paragraphs; I will work on this. Enthusiasticly -Don.
@@user-qy3ml6bv1d The"best one has to work with..." Don, is one's own hands. That's why I do what I do, since one simply can't buy what it is that I want. SO I make it myself. As in from scratch. Today's "Science Fiction" (L.I.S???) plastic model kits (with a handful of exceptions) are no better as scale models than the old Aurora junk of the 1960's. Sorry but I do not get excited by what's "out there".
You are throwing around "1/72" or "1/48" and "1/350" because that's what's written on the box. But that is WRONG. The Polar Lights Jupiter 2 is NOT 1/48 scale Don. That's just an estimate. MUCH BETTER is to do what the old (Hollywood) Studio Prop shops used:
-----The length or diameter of filmed practical miniatures.
The Gemini 12 in these videos is 1/12 scale as in 1" to the foot. So it's a "Four Foot" Gemini 12. The Seaview seen in this video was molded off the original 1/96 scale (1/8" to the foot) or 50-1/2" long BUT was always referred to as the "Four Foot Seaview". I have another Seaview, made from the surviving "8 footer" (as the studio called it) but in reality it's 103 inches long, closer to nine feet than eight! BUT THE ACTUAL DIMENSION(s) was what the studios used as it greatly avoids confusion.
All the non-sense toy company "replicas" (Ahem!) out there, well, the design people rarely bother to measure originals, they just send pictures to China and that's why you get what you get. It's NOT DIFFICULT to build a 100% accurate "Jupiter 2", or a Gemini 12 as I've done, and sold copies of which curiously ...you've entirely ignored.
Honestly this is difficult for me answering you as what I do is as they used to say "professional caliber". While the drek from China is just that, drek. If you actually were in the film industry, you'd know the meaning of that word. They're nothing but kid's toys with at best perhaps a passing resemblance to the filmed miniatures. That just doesn't cut it for me. Sorry but that's my perspective.
What an effort they did in the 60´s ... Awesome job, thank you for trying though !!!
And they had the ease of driving directly to the location. We had to hike in the 3/4 of a mile with all the equipment!
@@paullubliner6221 Yeah, no wonder guys ran out of time ... Thanks :)
Such a shame they just wouldn’t allow the rig to stay there to film the next day!
We were there for two days with the second effort.
Wait, didn't we see this like some 6 or 7 years ago?
If you watch the video we make references to RESTORING THE GEMINI 12, which was produced in 2016. This series of videos is a follow-up to the 2016 project.
@@gemini12channel58 Oh OK. Thanks for the response.
Part 3 waiting
We've recently uploaded an updated and far more concise version (with improvements!)
See:
---SPECIAL EDITION Relaunching the Gemini 12
What’s the difference between the “Jupiter2” and the “Gemini 12”?
I describe the differences in "RESTORING THE GEMINI 12", also on CZcams.
ese es un arduo trabajo ir la locación instalar todo el equipo para la escena de la caída del júpiter 2 efectos de cámara para darle realismo no que ahora a lo vaquetón todo virtual que no funciona porqué inmediato se falso la escena le voy más a ese trabajo que están asiendo estás personas.
Are you making the files available so we can.print our own Gemini 12?
Not at this time. Paul has been granted a license by The Irwin Allen estate to produce a limited run of Gemini 12 replicas (small scale....9 inches in diameter)
---Sorry, but the answer to your question is "no".
For what I feel should be obvious, I have no intention of doing that.
Regarding the licensing, an upfront payment as well as royalties were involved. So even IF I were to "sell" the files, it would be a legal/fiduciary quagmire at best. Hence, only finished and Museum Quality limited edition replicas will be sold.
Further, as the files are copyrighted information and they were not in anyway close to being "free" for me to generate, I will not "giving them away". Do please realize that someone had to pay "Q-Plus Labs" to scan the original as well as create all of the many internal "off-sets" of those outer surface files and also develop all aspects of the internal operating mechanisms.
As for your "own" 3D printed copy, that represents only the upper and lower hull itself. The fully operating Fusion Core sheathed in nickel-silver over machined, vacuum-formed acrylic, represents at lest half of this model... and is not included in the 3D printed files. And for many technical reasons, sequenced LED's (chase-lights) are a very poor choice to light the Fusion Core. For example; you cannot cleanly divide 32 (windows) by 6 (points of light).
---That said, the 9.6 inch diameter ship replicas (exactly 1/5th scale) are nearing completion and the order book has been closed for quite some time now.
Why didn't you camp over night?
Park rules forbid camping except for an area about a mile away. Being old guys, we preferred the comfort of a motel room.
No cell reception you say? That's why you have satellite phone.
We were under the "safety in numbers" plan; 4 guys and if one of us were injured the others could go to the parking lot and make the 911 call.
@@gemini12channel58: That's nice. I would still have a satellite phone with me anyways. It's faster to call 911 from said satellite phone and give the coordinates to the dispatcher. I also hope that one of your party has a med kit on hand.
@@jameshanlon5689 Considering our age, a full ambulance and a couple of paramedics would have been nice. We were a little underprepared due to our focus on the project. Lesson learned!
Well James, they're a lot of money for a very limited use, primitive technology.
---Besides we each had our own Alpha-Control issued Bell Rocket Packs.
Why not use cgi?
Because we wanted to be faithful to the methods used in 1965.
CGI cannot match the intricacies and details of the sandstone at Red Rock Canyon. Ask an animator and they'd tell you to get some location footage and they'd digitally insert a CGI saucer. It would also be apparent if you know what to look for.
There is no such thing as perfection
I see you don't understand a great deal about life as that statement is absolutely pointless. Consult: Heisenberg Principle of Uncertainty and if you continue to Troll, you will be CANCELLED.
There’s plenty of communication you could use.
THAT statement is about the PERFECT (see this Dolt's comment above, lol!) example of NON-communication I've ever seen expressed. AND that, in the simplest of grammatical terms alone. GED? I'd sincerely doubt it!
What happened to the jupiter2 it had the lower deck view port
Why are you saying "Jupiter 2" Joanna? This is the Gemini 12 as it says in title, the ORIGINAL Lost in Space ship!
DO kindly WATCH: "RESTORING THE GEMINI 12" our previous video for the answers to all of your questions.
@@paullubliner6221 no I know that and I did watch it but the ship in series was Jupiter 2 , what happened to that ship?
@@joannbarna8235 There were at least two known original 48" diameter later-built Jupiter 2 filmed miniatures.Those are now in private collections,
.... as is this ship.
@@paullubliner6221 do you remember the episode where smith found an alien machine that would materialize anything you asked for; well smith was going to have will ask for another Jupiter 2 but what he got was a model of it , do you what became of it?
@@joannbarna8235 As far as I am aware, that 12 inch diameter one of a kind, fiberglass miniature is still "At Large". It was built as a Gemini 12, as it has the slimmer profile and larger Fusion Core, but the viewports later and for the series, were reduced in size and the lower windows only suggested by the use of a painted outline.
It was produced as a "long shot miniature" meaning for distant shots as seen when first leaving the Earth at a steep angle of ascent. It can also be recognized when seen throughout the series by the Fusion Core's lights not appearing as revolving points of light as on the larger miniature, (---which they were) but as a rotating "blind". Meaning a disc with openings (or apertures) cut into its sides and bottom to allow the illuminating effect from a single light source to appear to be spinning.