Star Trek and Personal Identity: A Tale of Two Rikers
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- In the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Second Chances," Commander William T. Riker discovers that he has a transporter duplicate who has been living on his own for the past eight years. One person was beamed up, and two people were materialized from that one pattern: Will Riker and Thomas Riker.
Later in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode, "Defiant," a more concise explanation is given of the Thomas Riker problem; however a bored Gul Dukat asks the question that is on everyone's mind: "Why am I listening to this?"
You are listening to this because this raises some interesting questions about personal identity. We cannot say both are the "real" Riker, because the transitive property of identity tells us that if Thomas Riker is the real Riker, and William Riker is the real Riker, then Thomas Riker is William Riker, which is not the case.
But does this square with Geordi's intuition that both are the real one? Do you share this intuition? Is there a way for transporter duplicates to be the same person as the original, without running afoul the law of identity? Or does personal identity not matter at all?
Update Dec 2018: Adding in some tags for The Good Place to help you philosophy dum-dums learn the Good Book of Parfit.
Can we just ignore the existential crisis of will Riker for a moment to acknowledge gul dukat being awesome in this scene
why am i listening to it?
Gul Dukat = bad ass psychopath
Cardassians have em, sadly prob dead. (Only person to survive a trial is O'Brien lol) Was captured in a Ds9 episode, when he had joined the Maquis. Actually pretty cool send off for the character, went solo against the Cardassians with the Defiant.
I only acknowledge the fact that he has the same super clean beard
It'd be funnier if he started eating McDonald's while Odo is talking.
“Right now there are two Will Rikers on board” - Deanna is having some interesting thoughts….
*Wesley:* I'll go wipe down the holodeck...
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Spitroast?
@@Husker_XIII riker maneuver from both ends...
I mean, I'll be honest, I'd be up for that.
I like Riker's delivery "It's not that we don't believe you, it's just hard to see how both stories could be true"
He didn't call the other Riker a liar or an imposter or that he was confused. What a nice man
“This is a very entertaining story, but why am I listening to it?”
I’m actually going to use this line. Lolll
This floored me too hahahA. Amazing delivery
A teleporter works on deconstructing and then reconstructing the object or lifeform. Creating a new version out of the deconstructed particles. Each time a person teleports they become a copy of thier former (deconstructed) self. I'll take a shuttle.
Wow, I would never want to use one then.
Meaning that everytime you enter a transporter the original person dies and a clone is made in the new location.
🤔 the prestige.
Yeah, but in order to make two Rikers, there would need to be enough particles to generate a second being, right?
I thought there would be some mutant half-Riker beamed to the ship and his other half left on the planet.
We don't know for sure how a transporter works in Star Trek.
The idea that you are broken apart, effectively killed, and than an exact copy of yourself is built and takes your place is one interpretation.
Another could be that we are just patterns (remember every cell in the body is replaced at least once every 7 years) and information, and like a wave has a medium it must exist in (like water), our pattern can only continue to exist if it is being filled with matter. Perhaps through some unknown quantum schenigans they are able to move our patterns without breaking the pattern or terminating the pattern, so our real selves and our real consciousness never stopped being and was successfully transported, and stored in their pattern buffer until they could replicate the matter for our pattern to manifest in.
There...are...TWO RIKERS!!!!
How many Rikers do you see?
FOUR!
@@jaredbaratta8589 How many?
DP Troi!
No, there are 5 Rikers.
Why did they never expand on this story line!?!
Man I love the idea of a Pirate Riker!
Because they were too busy writing him to be a neckbeard's pussy-slaying wank-dream incarnate
I really want to like riker, but i feel like he had too many people writing for his character that a lot of his "core values" never seem consistant, which really sucks when youre trying to tell an overall story about a man trying to fit the shoes of a more experienced man whom he admires greatly. I know thats not all Riker is about, but thats fairly integral, and when you write someone with aspirations like that as a boring "lady-killer" it waters down how you see this person from youthful, hardworking right hand man, to a college space douche.
@Főfasírozó Not a bad idea, we got to witness how Data would act as a Commanding Officer when he was left in charge of the Bridge.
@@FriezaSucks Riker seemed a bit too random. Its a shame. I also wished he was written more like other characters in Star Trek, with consistent storylines and actual values not just "handsome, womanizer, standard first officer".
he did he joined Starfleet and he went to deep space nine for a few episodes and fell in love with kira and boy did they lock lips and I mean locked they were instantly attracted to each other
0:36 Well they certainly gave LeVar Burton a challenge with his first Star Trek episode as director. Jonathan Frakes as two Rikers involving split screen, blue screen and a body double.
Riker eats well, wherever he is.
Lt. Tommy Riker is wearing a tattered engineering uniform.
Probably security, i presume not engineering. Nice touch that it is the old version though
You must be one skinny lil shit.
@@xamurai00 Riker is overweight for much of the series and got fatter overtime. Dont try and deny that bub.
Both Rikers ate Troi.
Gul Dukat is not a fan of TNG episodes.
Keeping up with the Cardassians
Actually, Dukat kind of summed up TNG in a nutshell with "This is a very entertaining story, but why am I listening to it?"
@@lizzychrome7630 That would be voyager
not as himself but Dukat's actor played a Cardassian in TNG
XTX Gul Macet during the Phoenix going renegade episode.
Everything Picard says here will be realized on him when he meets SHinzon.
Not true as Shinzon was created in totally different way to how Thomas was as Shinzon was a clone and Thomas is an exact duplicate.
Thomas is as Picard puts it, "A twin".
Yeah.. Exactly. I thought about this exact episode and then realized how plot-holed Nemesis was in light of it.
Oh, he needs all your DNA.
Uh... Transporter duplicate maybe ??
If only Shinzon and Tom teamed up.
Will and Tom shared the majority of their life history. Two versions of the same man who took different paths in adulthood. Picard and Shinzon lived completely different lives since birth. They were complete strangers.
I love the look on Troi's face when Picard says they have two Rikers on-board.
"I'm so confused"
Yeah as I recall her brain was confused, but her lady parts were at full power ;)
Ménage à Troi? ;)
1:30 - Deanna looks like she's just realized she could be the sweet crème filling in a Riker Oreo.
You can tell the true Riker by the “what the hell” he tends to utter at will
hmmm...this is a very interesting story, but why is it in my recommendations?
you were looking up hot bearded buy with blue eyes on youtube
There is no paradox. The fallacy is your idea that one of them has to be the "real" Riker. There was simply a person called William Riker, and then at some point in time his body was deconstructed and reconstructed into two copies. Thus each copy has the memories and sentience of "William Riker", but from that point onwards they have different experiences and different stimuli, thus their minds evolve in different ways. It's pretty simple. It's only a problem if you think of sentience and personhood as some sort of spiritual uniqueness, as opposed to simply being an emergent physical property. Two Riker bodies = two Rikers. There's no reason that any one is less "real" than the other, when they clearly both are sentient beings with all of William Riker's memories and personalities. There's no reason why sentience can't be duplicated.
but which one was the real one though? this doesnt answer the question.
@@christophercrafteLiterally speaking, neither of them are the real one. Logically speaking, both of them are the real one.
I mean.... yes, but even taking a strictly scientific approach, this violates the law of conservation of mass....
That being said, this show also has technology that violates the matter energy threshold known as the speed of light, so *shrug*
@@JamesR624heh ya, i mean scotty put himself in a transporter loop for like 100 years and met picard and the others, the show's never been completely realistic.
It's great that he just happened to meet his duplicate after he decided to grow a beard. If they had met just a few years ago, they would be very easy to tell apart.
That jug prop was 100% a bong before being used in Star Trek 😂
The transporter could make an army of Data
That does seem an easy way of replicating stuff and people. That's probably how replicator works.
Reminds of the Novel where multiple copies of James T Kirk were made. Not sure if it became an Episode?
I have always wondered about Data being a machine why he can’t be replicated??
@@2bituser569 His neutral net was too complex to replicate. Lal was such an attempt.
And a whole ensemble (or choir even) performing Blue Skies! Great.
This is what happens when your little brother copies your game save and continues on his own from where you left off.
Who knew Riker had such a split personality?
I think years without any human contact can change you quite a bit. And finding out "someone else" has taken your place in YOUR life won't go easy on you either :-/
badumtsssssssss
technically everyone who's used a transporter is a copy that thinks they're the original....
that scares the hell out of me as a christian it like if i were to enter a transporter would i wake up in heaven or can the soul transfer to my new body because my time was not up yet or is me entering the transporter my time coming to an end?
@@hardwirecars From a medical point of view, the duplicates are like identical twins. Each is a unique individual they just happen to have the same DNA. Using a transporter is suicide, then at some other location your DNA brother or sister is created and your memories are used to brainwash them into thinking they are you, and since they were only just born and assembled, they don't know any better than to think they are you
From a Christian perspective, using a transporter is killing yourself. Those copies are other people who were given your memories
Whatever else it might be, the soul is not a physical construct, it's not going to be copied over, no more than it is split between twins at birth. (unless you believe twins are both the same person/soul, in which case that's version of christian I've never seen claimed)
@@Vincent_Beers so doc mccoy had the right idea and use a shuttle even after transporter tech had been perfected.
@@Vincent_Beers It's far more than shared DNA, the transporter replicates an individual right down to the atomic level. It replicates the brain exactly the same. Thus for all intents and purposes it is the same person, the same sentience. There is no essential difference between flying to the ship in a shuttle and being disassembled and reassembled if the assembly is perfect. Hell, it only has to be near perfect, the very act of existing second by second shuffles around the atoms in your body. You are not physically "the same person" merely living second by second.
Identical twins on the other hand are totally different. At no point in time were they "the same person". They were merely built from the same genetic blueprint. It's like the difference between you and I both following the same recipe to make a cake (which still would have some differences because they are made from distinct actual sets of ingredients, as well as a thousand other subtle differencea in how I'm making it vs how you're making it), vs two cakes which are the same right down to an atomic level.
It only doesn't make sense if you believe in some sort of non-physical "soul" which houses sentience, as opposed to sentience being an emergent physical phenomenon from the brain and body. Thus indeed, if souls existed, then transporters wouldn't work, since they are destroying a person and recreating them at another location. This is evidence that souls do not exist in the Star Trek universe, or at least that the existence of souls would present an inconsistency with the functionality of transporters in the Star Trek universe. On the other hand, if sentience is just an emergent physical property, then it can be "copied" just like a computer program which is running on one computer can be shut down and copied onto another computer and continued to run on the second computer, and from the perspective of the computer program it wouldn't know anything had happened.
Of course, even if sentience is just an emergent physical property, transporters would still be practically impossible or at least insanely difficult to make in practice for hundreds of different reasons. They'd just be an engineering nightmare. Transporters may be *theoretically* possible, but actually *recording* a person down to that level and being able to faithfully *reconstruct* them in such a way that their body continues to function as if nothing had happened is insanely insanely beyond anything we are currently technologically capable of.
@@AndreRhineDavis And yet the original person still dies ~ that's the point. I don't care how accurate a copy is, it's still a copy. The original person being copied, is dead. Every person that has been sent through has been killed, just because a faithful copy of them exists, the original is still gone. It's a new person who happens to think they are the original.
This episode fascinates me. I can't help wondering what must have gone through Tom's mind when he realized that nobody missed him, most of all his Imzadi, because nobody knew he existed in the first place.
They are both very, very real, while at the same time niether are. The original William T. Riker died the first time they ever used a transporter beam on him. We've just been following one of his many, many duplicates created from his pattern that has been serving Starfleet over the years.
1:58 A wash of concern washes over Troi. Can they both keep our naughty secrets?
Heres a solution- Thomas becomes a tank engine!
Choo choo motherfuckers.
That explains the uniform
Please don't. He's *Will Riker,* and this is the *Internet.* Don't turn an infamous Casanova into a freight train. This will only end in demented fan art and tears.
Normie
It's a fabrication. We made it up. It's fiction.
By the way, have you ever...
Thanks for the video. It's been so long since I've seen Next generation that when I was watching DS9 I totally forgot about Thomas!
Angelzor1337 😊💯
1:46-1:52
That statement would come back to haunt Picard,someday....
I really love the episode with Tom Riker but I always laugh that after like 8 years alone fighting for survival he still managed to remain so well groomed and fed (the fact that his uniform _is_ very messed up makes it even more strange how good he himself looks, lol) I wish they could have made him up to look more ragged and desperate like he was in the episode Parallels when they show that reality conquered by the Borg.
I see your point, but I think this way, it’s easier to take him seriously as a “proper” Riker, rather than some embittered, unhinged survivor. They usually lean into the ragged appearance when they go down that route.
@@Jalanko13 yeah it's a somewhat common Trek-trope
Worf yelling: "One Riker! One Bridge!"
Yeets Thomas into the turbolift.
I don't need to be an empath to guess what "menage" a Troi was thinking about 😜
Actually my take is that neither is the "real" Riker. The "real" Riker ceased to exist on the initial beam out, and 2 distinct copies were created based on the first copy. Granted Trek never handles consciousness during the deconstruction of the human body into energy and back again. But again, it's science fiction for a reason.
That is by far the best explanation I've read for this accident, not to mention it make the most sense when you get down to the nuts a bolts of how the transporter works.
Its in the same vein of how you are never the same person after you learn something new or experience something new, you can never go back to how you were.
really it could either be what you said, the original died and two clones were created, or one of them is the clone
Every time someone transports the original is killed, but in a biological sense it's not a big deal since only a tiny fraction of our cells still exist from when we were born, which means our bodies are constantly dying and being gradually replaced.
Technically, Star Trek has always presented the transporter as effectively "destroying" an individual during the beaming process and then reconstructing them on the other end, so you could argue that it's always making a copy of the original individual each time it's used.
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We all know what Riker’s thinking:
“Damn I look good.”
For someone who had been living on his own for 8 years his hair and beard looks remarkably well kept.
Self-Replicating Mine Technology + Riker Transporter Accident = Army of Infinite Rikers
Little did they know, Thomas would be even hornier than Will.
Super Riker Brothers
Sorry Commander Riker, but Counselor Troi is in another office.
Correction Super Riker Twins.
Ensign Kael: Think of it this way Commander, Thomas is simply your new Twin Brother.
Another example of things that Star Trek didn't think through until the end. If such an accident can so easily happen, you can recreate this situation and make a dedicated technology out of it. Hell you could make millions of human copies.
There was enough random and out of their control parameters that made this scenario incredibly rare to have ever happened in the first place. To take this idea from a hypothetical one to a realized one would require a dedicated research team to figure out. Which would call into question if it was ethical in the first place. Better to leave it was, a freak accident, and never to open that pandora box.
Or backup organs.
They have a similar concept with Weyoun but the dna doesn’t account for memories and they specifically only ever have one at a time, or at least try to
Boimler getting cloned by the exact situation made me rewatch this scene
Now we can see where "The Orville" got its idea for the plot line with the two Kelly Graysons
More like the TOS episode where a transporter accident split Kirk into good and evil versions.
A very interesting Plot line indeed The Orville not only took insperation in this Plotline from this tng eppisode but from a particular cannon TOS eppisonic plotline plotline involving the appearence of James T Kirk's Quntam Quntam Egotiscical Duplicat or should i say Alter Evil Ego.
In just one episode, Thomas became one of my favorite characters from the show! :)
So, if 2 people can be produced by teleportation, this proves the hypothesis that the person is not teleported at all.
What if, during the teleportation, the original person is disintegrated and that a replica is produce on the other side.
This would be supported with events, such as when the doctor, who had aged drastically, when transformed into a younger version of herself on the other side.
Or when Picard, Guinan, Keiko and Ro were all turned into children. Or that early episode where Picard was beamed out into space to become pure energy. They're like "why don't we just beam up the energy and feed it into Picard's last transporter pattern and bring him back?" And then do, and it works.
I feel so bad for Tom Riker. I really hope he got out of that Cardassian concentration camp.
The writers had the idea of killing will off and replacing him with data as first officer and Tom as the ops officer a little hard to believe but now it would have been a little bit interesting if they had gone through with the idea
This raises an interesting question, according to what we learned in and since TOS, the Transporter is vastly different from a Replicator, it is supposed to actually transport the energy of the subject to the destination so how is this for the consciousness? Did the second beam actually copy it? So then who is new and who isn’t? Did it split the conciousness?
i believe it took a snapshot of himself, right down to the electricity jumping between his cells, and printed him out twice
@@JacobVonRoker maybe there was like a spacial displacement and something else went missing in the process. Not sure if it was a transporter accident that put Kirk in the Mirror Universe? Then there was also Worf hopping realities... maybe a Riker inexplicably got lost in another universe and a poor transporter officer had to sit through a really uncomfortable hearing
I don't see a real paradoxon here. There is no contradiction in having two individuals claiming to be a person with the name "William T. Riker". It's only a label and has nothing to do with a person's identity, their selfimage, which is subject to constant change. How "Will Riker" is perceived from the outside doesn't really matter, since none who isn't "Will Riker" can really judge what it means to be "Will Riker". That said, it is pretty obvious that these two people do no see eye to eye who "Will Riker" is and that is what makes them distinct entities. QED no issue here. And I liked Thomas Riker way better btw.
@Han Lockhart Names indicate cultural roots and "upbringing", and thus there certainly is correlation between names and associated behaviour. At the same time, there are a lot of people who have identical names and behave very differently for similar reasons.
Replicate Will had a sad story, even his ending, which was ending up in a cardassian prison, he probably got tortured to death, so sad. 😭
"Hey ma... yeah its me, listen, we are gonna need another seat at Thanksgiving... its... a long story"
This whole episode was conceived to give Jonathan Frakes the option of having a recurring role on DS9. Frakes ultimately turned it down (in favor of a one-off appearance) and Michael Eddington was created to take Tom Riker's place.
Too bad back in the early 90’s they wouldn’t have thought that after 8 years an abandoned Riker would not have had a haircut or beard grooming. He would have looked like Tom Hanks in Cast Away.
Dukat really REALLY does not want to spill that Kanar.
Good to see that despite the accident they both manage to get their hair cut at the same place.
This reminds me of that show called: "Counterpart."
How did Thomas Riker keep his beard neat?
The Rikerian beard can withstand anything.
@@jaredbaratta8589 …with the exception of the Borg - in *Parallels* , a heavily bearded Riker caused the loss of the entire Federation to the Borg.
If you really want to see a neat beard, check out ice cube, Tony Stark, or catch any black dude fresh from the barbershop....that's a neat beard. Rikers is just managed.
Especially since he didn't have it in season 1, presumably after the duplication. Or who cut his hair? Way unlikely they would be styled the same. I guess it keeps the makeup budget down...
Was there at least one functional replicator where Tom was stranded?
Shaving kit.
How did he keep his beard so well groomed for 8 years on that planet?
No no go to
Well, he was leading an evacuation, good chance a lot of people he evacuated didn't grab all their toiletries?
Here's a better question: why isn't "Thomas" completely insane after eight years of isolation on that hellpit planet?
@@LordZontar Does joining the Maquis count?
the question isn't which Riker is real. The root of the question is much darker.
Do society, connection, and accomplishments decide what is real?
Does Thomas Riker, marooned on a planet with no friends, no accomplishments, and very little progress count as its own being, or a failed version of one's potential?
Or does William Riker, only matter to us, because he is the one that we the audience are familiar with?
If we flipped the story and had been following Thomas this whole time, it would seem like an invasion of the body snatchers, as someone else took his identity and did what they wanted with it.
Here's my answer:
It is our chosen paths in life that define who we become, not our beginning.
Both are real people with a shared origin, but different endpoints.
They can both exist and be "real" to the people that they encounter and take different risk to continue to evolve them into different people.
That twisted pitcher is really a bong!
Commander Riker meets Lieutenant Riker
Both are real- the difference isn't in who the person is, but the time line they are on. William Riker is on the beam to ship succeeded timeline while Thomas is on the failed/marooned timeline. It would be like a Riker from an alternate reality visiting, but in this case the two realities exist in that same dimension.
I have the exact same bottle of wine the Cardassian is drinking from. :)
this is cut out from the second clip but Sisko says "Because the Riker that stole the Defiant is working with the Maquis" (or something along that line)
This is why it's clear you are killed everytime you transport and a new person is created with your memory
I remember this part
In TOS something like this happened to Cpt Kirk and he had to be put together because both his parts were extremes of his personality that didn't work well separately. So this episode of Riker kind of annoys me, when he was split in half, something of the same sort should have happened.
Tom Riker wears a ragged gold 2351 Starfleet uniform in the first scene. Later on in that same episode, when he goes to play poker with his "twin" of a superior rank, he is seen wearing a newer gold 2366 Starfleet uniform just like everyone else.
They issued him new clothes. Why's that so hard to figure out?
Would've been funny if at the end, Picard was offering Lt. Riker a promotion as the Enterprise was leaving orbit of that planet, and Commander Riker, now stranded on the planet was like, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Apparently, they considered killing off Will so that Tom could take over. Different circumstances for Frakes to play
I'm betting we're back to one Will Riker, that during the Dominion occupation all prisoners of Cardassia were eliminated.
so much for the laws of thermodynamics
If they pump in twice the energy, they get twice the matter. It's not violating any laws.
E=MC2, the energy it would take to form a human body is immense. The second transport beam must have drawn power from the storm itself.
It would be weird meeting yourself but depending on what type of person you are would it be interesting or dangerous.
You can see the actor (Marc Alaimo) playing Ducat having some issues with the prop Kanar. He even looks up as if looking at the director because the crap is so thick (they used Kero syrup).
The prestige in space!
This is why bones McCoy will not go onto a transporter of his own free will.
My question is, where did the extra matter for the second Will Riker come from? Was it the atmosphere or something completely different?
The transporter just solidifies energy into matter, right? You don't need extra matter, just extra energy.
@@FanboyFilms You'd need a fuckload of energy, but then, it /is/ hooked up to an antimatter reactor.
Hi 🙋🏼♂️ does anybody have any idea how this was filmed? - I'm just watching the episode now & I'm intrigued by Frakes' two split performances; specifically what I mean is, his appearance. Cmdr has hair combed back/Ltnt has side parting. But the beard.... 1 is shaped & trim, the other is longer & not shaped, just natural. Can't have been filled in like a wig, or makeup?
I know that in a lot of films twins are used to play, essentially, the same identity, like Terminator ll.
I'm intrigued as to how this was filmed, but can't find any behind the scenes footage etc.....
very good :)
This episode made me think about how I might react if another ME (with slightly different experience for the last several years) showed up. Would I argue with myself (the way the Rikers did?) I'd LIKE to think it would be fun, but not sure what it's like to have to live with me. :D
This would've been an interesting idea to expand upon, but at the same time could've been a mess to try and clean up. Some rogue scientist who specialized in transporter tech figures out a way to clone people using the transporters. It's said many times in all Trek series that patterns are stored so he could've get ahold of them, and start replacing people with copies he controls. There'd be no way to tell who was the real one and who was the copy since technically they're both copies.
Indeed infact most likely in Star Trek cannon of the past when Will Riker was a Leutenit onboard the USS Potempkin he barely managed to make it out after being the last one beamed back to the ship not realizing a transporter event had created his quntam duplicate/twin which had been left behind and was not discovered until years later.
This is a very entertaining video, but why am I watching it?
Given how often Starfleet uses transporters how has this not happened more?
"It's hard to see how both stories can be true"
Annnnnnd welcome to quantum mechanics 101.
I just wish this happened to Picard. If that happened, I'd imagine the duplicate Picard being beamed back to Milika III, instead of to the Stargazer if something similar happened with Picard to that of the Riker duplication. The duplicate Picard would be promoted to commander and would wear a blue Starfleet uniform by the time he would board the Enterprise D. The duplicate Picard would take on his mom's maiden name and go by Commander Jean-Luc Gessard and would later post the USS Curry. Picard would give Gessard his flute from The Inner Light as a parting gift.
Shinzon.
This is gonna give his dad a headache
Convenient that Thomas Riker decided to grow the same style beard and haircut as Commander Riker 😂
Two Riker many Rikers.
New series please. Star Trek Tom Riker, Neutral Zone Taxi Driver.
“Is it true you delivered a Romulan to outpost 23 Alpha?”
‘That’s not possible. Never happened. You’d be wrong.’
Identity theft live on tv
wait. so the transporter works on killing and then reconstructing you. Creating a new version out of the deconstructed particles. Each time a person teleports they become a copy of thier former (deconstructed) self. Thanks man i'll walk
I imagine their mind is transfered over each time so its still truly you.
Boy rikers dads gonna be shocked
For those debating whether this means a transporter kills you:
The existence of Q personal obsessions, timelines and linked timelines confirms the existence of something like a soul in the Star Trek universe, so, no.
So anyone could go to this planet and clone themselves following the same procedure. Beam down 8 years of supplies though.
Many of the characters on TNG have been in strange situations:
*Captain Picard meets a duplicate of himself from the future.
*Captain Picard dies, then Q give him a look at what his life would be like if he did it all over again and played it safe and worked on the Enterprise in a dead-end job as a junior-grade lieutenant science officer with no chance at becoming captain.
*Data meets his evil twin brother Lore.
*Mr. Worf experiences what it is like in many different parallel universes.
*Commander Riker discovers he has a "transporter twin."
*Guinan winds up on an alternate reality version of the Enterprise.
DS9 also had the whole mirror universe part where some of the crew end up in an alternate universe where Bajor is a powerful evil empire and DS9 Kira meets her evil crazy lesbian counter part who keeps hitting on her.
This is why the ship has a professional counsellor.
He should have had a scraggily beard after many long years in a cave. Other than that, it was a good episode. Too bad this 'second' Riker didn't come back in any other episodes or movies. Shame that.
I've just realised that the DS9 writers messed up since they have Sisko say that Thomas was discovered 2 years ago even though Odo said it was 9 years ago.
The transporter accident happened 9 years ago, but Tom wasn't discovered until 2 years ago.
@@immortalpoet indeed since in TNG Riker's middle name was only mentioned with a capital T since the TNG producers and CBS thought the star trek fan community and TNG fans aswell as DN9 could easily reconise T as being short for Thomas in Riker's middle name.
me, after this vid: This is a very entertaining video, but why am _I_ watching it?
CZcams Algorithm: hah, give 'im a video on cow hooves, this dumb bastard'll watch anything!
eight years apart, yet still converged to the same beard trim
Now we have two Boimlers.
They should have made more Data's this way!
So does this actually lend credence to the belief that once you get transported, you do actually die and a copy of you comes out the other side?
So in this one, Dr Crapper tells the lost Riker: "you broke your arm." Gates Mc Fadden once again degrades her "position" as doctor on the ship by not saying he "fractured" his: left or right, or ulna, humerus/radius? She is such a dud.