Troubleshooting The Kiwi 440 Six Pack Satellite
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2022
- With the brakes and fuel system taken care of by Kiwi, it's now our turn to sort out the running issues of this classic multi carbed Mopar street machine.
So far the basic engine and combination looks real good, but it's going to need a few parts and some refinements under the hood before we can unleash the power.
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Fuel filter laying on the radiator is helping atomize the fuel. No problem there 🤣🤣
So cool to hear the acoustics of the engine bay through your voice when you point the camera at it
Looks like a teenager set this thing up!
It sounds like you found a lot to fix that could make a big difference. Good job Tony.
I'd gut every last component out of that bay and just start over. You just can't trust much of anything there when people leave that kind of "workmanship" behind for the next guy. Sweet B-body, though.
And a proper cooling system bypass hose please. 😄
That’s not a bypass hose, well sort of maybe. The heater core is most likely leaking so somebody blocked off the coolant there.
@@MrZdvy No, that's an external cooling system bypass hose. Like a lot of mopar and ford engines.
EDIT: I think you're correct. I see the heater core hoses going nowhere. just laying at the rad frame. Good eye.
Good tech assessment on this one
I don't like braided lines for fuel. I ran into a Ford Ranger that ended up having a bad ground. Whenever power was on the voltage would look for the best route to ground and it ended up being the braiding on the fuel line. The problem was the small wires that made up the braid would get red hot as soon as the power was on and it was melted the fuel hose so now it was red hot with fuel squirting out.
Sounds awesome in the winter time when there's feet of snow on the ground. Campfire anyone...
I've also noticed alot of little stainless flakes get on your fingers while handling these, presumably manufacturing artifacts. Any of that gets in the intake or fuel and it's going to be scraping around in the cylinder for a long time before burning up.
@@sometimesleela5947 Good point, all the more reason to try and flush them out before installing. It's the things we don't think of that kills us....
We can see how complex multi-carb setups are. And why they quickly fell out of favor. Great point about tuning w/air cleaner on!
They fell out of favor because people didn't want to learn them. NHRA still requires a weight penalty for 8V & dual throttle bodies last I remember...could be wrong. 🤦♂️
They're not super complex, it's just tuning 2 carbs instead of tuning the secondaries.
They really fell out of favor because 4bbl carbs were created, and then made larger. When multi-carb setups were popular, the only choices were small(ish) 2bbl carbs.
I like to tune mine with a flipped air cleaner lid if you know what I mean. Get a longer longer centerstud in your carb if need be. Tune it for Max performance with the air cleaner lid flipped (upside down) so you get 360° maximum air flow/performance.... But flip it right side up for average daily driving. 😇
I followed the DC manual for tuning. They always worked great. I still have both factory cars. 70 ‘Cuda and ‘70 Charger both 440 Six Pack 4 speed Dana from the factory.
@@drippinglass What is the DC manual, I'm having trouble tuning my 70 Sixpack Roadrunner
Chuckled when I saw the allen head bolts holding the carbys to the manifold, such a Kiwi thing to do! Take it from another Kiwi. Nice Satellite, damn, good colour, too.
I have seen people spend thousands on their engines, then leave the stock fuel system, fuel lines plugged solid.
The dancing coil , is an interesting feature
What a great car! I'm excited to see how it goes after you tweak on it a little!
Also need an air cleaner because the 440 can suck bolts, nuts, washers and gravel right off the ground.
Lol yeah small children 2!
most 6 packs i saw in the early 70`s including mine were switched to mechanical linkage for the outer carbs. much simpler
Then you miss the whole point of having multiple carbs. Watch this: czcams.com/video/fLXV5wpXnLo/video.html
Never had a problem with my 71 even after sitting for two years.
That never worked unless you had accelerator pumps on the secondarys.
@@drippinglass Don’t tell my car that! It might give me trouble after all these years 😟
Can you do a specific video about how to run the plug wires? I’ve had a 383 for 20+ years. Never been able to get them right!
I love your videos because of your meticulous attention to detail. I've learned so much, and you give us great examples about why these details matter. Thank you Uncle Tony!
Really like this project
That whole car looks sort of cobbled. You can buy all of the correct re-pop brackets, linkage and parts. Looks like it was put together by a non-Mopar guy or as a 'flipper'. Cars like that kind of scare me off unless they're really cheap. Especially if it's a 318 transplant car because they rarely upgrade the suspension or brakes, with other HD parts to match the engine. I always figure what else am I NOT seeing when looking at them considering what you can see. No excuse for that coil wire. Nothing but quality there. I wasn't really diggin' the 'hi-tech' carb mounting bolts either. Craziest thing is that upper radiator hose looks like it's upside down with a kink. C'mon man! BTW, B body/E body big blocks only run the #8 over the valve cover. C-bodies run the #7 and #8 wire. A lot of 'Restored' B&E's these days have C-body driver side covers with the extra tabs.
Man I can't wait to see the outcome of your work on this very cool car , Thanks Tony
Plug wires on a 383 in a 73 duster fun
That color makes the car! Always liked the A12’s in it!
Put the alternator pulley on a lathe
The way that throttle, coil and choke are hooked up I wouldn't count on anything being correct
looks like the motor install was a classic all-nighter. get it done by morning with whatever you have.
Fixing those 3 things is going to be a *huge* step forward in performance.
Thank you for the short ADs! I love your channel!
Thanks Tony
Slant the world!!!
Good vid UT. Oh boy would you have like 3 vids on what's wrong with my slant six in my 81. These little things, yes are an issue, but mine don't go to the dragstrip. Just a buggy nowadays
Do you know what pick up tube it has in the fuel tank it may not have enough fuel flow it would explain the drop off at higher rpm under load
It's only getting half throttle. He didn't say if that's the primary carb or not, but it definitely will affect performance. 👍
I got fired from my job because i almost fought my 50 year old coworker.. and It got toxic yo so now, i spend most of my time smoking weed on my CZcams channel now, meanwhile i get back to the hustle🙏🙏💯
Muncie makes a clamp holder for their PTO cables 47M13802 it could work?
Thanks Uncle Tony, Have a great Easter.
UT, quick question. Per the paid to paint the block vid, do you get paid per view, per like, or per subscriber view? If it’s by “likes” I want to make sure I’m leaving a like on every vid so you can continue to do’s what you do best. Love the content as always, you could clean you tools and chat about world events and make it interesting.
I think the likes just spread the video around to others with the same interests. Also they send more like content to your page as well for recommendations.
At the same time when you like it and it goes to another viewer they click on it and they watch and that's how most of the money is made. Views alone. Clicking like has many advantages for all of us.
Say when a person just starts clicking things to downvote it, it still actually helps that channel because it still gets counted as a view if they stay on the video for awhile; so you're not hurting them but helping.
The correct throttle bracket is available usually at EBay and also a long throttle cable, EBay and he needs to get a correct kickdown before the Torqueflite burns up. The outboard carb vacuum lines plug into the line that attaches to the nipple on the center carb metering block. The distributor's vacuum line plugs into the center carb small nipple on the front of the base plate. The outboard vacuum pods usually work well on the short yellow or purple springs. That'll be a start. Been there, done that.
Hey U.T. You are Gonna Need a Carb Synchronizer to Tune That, Nice looking Mopar Tho
UTC,being a holy grail motor.will you show tuning being done.Also show how it runs after
A good old visual inspection,,,gotta love -em.
Thank for up date car is pretty solid engine sound strong
I always hated how painful it was to axe the AC from a Mopar.
thanks Tone
Hey happy Easter you guys. This is too funny for me especially that it still spun the tires. I think he will appreciate the attention
Is anyone gonna mention the sweet bus out side the UTG World Headquarters? That is the only way you'll ever see Tony outside of Tennessee
Not his..
@@TheTazzman1968 I figured as much, but let's get him dreaming. At the rate you're growing you'll need one next summer
9:12 What is with that bent over hose in the middle of the screen? It's badly kinked. Whatever it's carrying, it's gonna have really bad flow.
Heater delete...
Heater hose looped instead of through the heater core under the dash-hot rods rarely need heat 😎
@@scotthorn5792 That was my first thought, but I then I thought it must be wrong because the return was so close.
@@Fleetwoodjohn If you don’t need heat than just leave the lever on ‘off’...most likely the heater core is leaking.
@@Fleetwoodjohn I donno, early in the season, late in the season, it gets quite chilly even in the sun.
good street cam,not too wild
The throttle bracket is also missing the back bolt which is also the rear bolt for the intake.
Congrats on almost a quarter million subs!
So an easy fix up for under a $1000-$700ish tops,maybe a lot less, so that's good news for you and the owner.
Ah yes, the 440 accessory brackets. It's almost like they made a whole new bracket package for every minor change.
All Chrysler cars and trucks have a taste for copper bevause everyone I work on or see is either eating has ate or is about to eat some type if wiring with the steering column. I had a 77 d250 plow truck and turned a corner and lights out. Pulled the whole dam engine bay harness right out of the firewall lol
Awesome car cant wait to see more utg you guys n gal are awesome
Wow love the color
Uncle Tony, what's with that short bypass hose bent over and almost blocked near the water pump?
it's a heater bypass. While it isn't perfect it's not affecting the carbs.
Some people here suggested a likely cause for having this is the heater core has blown out and leaking. That's just an easy fix without pulling the dash.
Uncle Tony is running around with the camera in one hand like a pro now ;)
Locate TDC. It's painted close to the right color. Are those stock heads, and valve assembly?
Bad connections burn shit up. Is their such a thing as a extra ground strap,on a Dodge?
I had a ‘72 Challenger that suddenly didn’t seem right with ignition. Timing light showed the timing at idle all over the place. It was shot distributor bushings.
That will be a nice engine compartment once the details are fixed. I noticed there's an "Orange Box" ignition with a single ballast resistor. I have a "N.O.S." one from the early '90's. Will this "plug and play" replacing the original box with the dual ballast or does it require a special single ballast? I noticed that there are only 4 pins on the "Orange Box" whereas there are 5 on the regular box. On the wiring diagram, the missing pin goes to half of the resistor. Does it use a different coil? Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Best Regards - Mike
Hey uncle Anthony, what about that bypass hose with the kink in it between the Alternator and the thermostat housing? Looks bad enough for government work
Trying to decide on the best set up for a angry little 283, 850cfm q jet, dual quad 450 Holly's, or three twos 500 outers and 250 center
Is the Chevy Holley tri power set up better version than vacuum secondary on the mopar mr norm used gm setup on his cars?
Wow I didn't know Crack heads could get a 440 6 pack. Looks 👍Did Kiwi trade it straight across for crack?
there's more inside the kiwi bird than just cotton stuffing.
Tony I'm not a Mopar guy so I maybe wrong, but it looks like the fitting on the power brake booster has a hose on one side but it looks like there's a nipple sticking out on the other side that needs a vacuum cap or to be hooked up to something else.
Are the snazzy fuel lines supplying enough volume ?
Someone had spent some time half rigging those carbs. And that wiring job on the coil. 🤣
You haven't done any videos geared just towards your wrecker have you?
I know exactly what you mean. I call it a wobble in the idle, cuz it just doesn't sound/feel right.
Yep..don't understand driving around without the air cleaner as any dirt getting sucked in doesn't do much for engine life! Nothing wrong with multi-carb setups IF you get all the pieces in place and tune correctly. I run dual Holley 4 bbls. and have no issues with them on the street/strip. Can sit in the shop for weeks and fires right up. Cruise A/F is 14.0 WOT 12.9
I just aquired a 440 motor and transmission out of a camper with low mileage but the guy that pulled it out had no mercy on it, think I will have to go through it,any suggestions or advice
Look and see the year build and what heads are on it. That will tell you alot about the motor and its potential.
Best to cut the ignition wires to fit on a chryco big block.
Change that scary rubber gas line, looks like a fire waiting to happen.
Radiator top tank looks green
Dr. Tony says: the devil is in the details.
UT...you are getting good with the camera.
Cool,,,nice!
Is uncle Cathy going to be back? She is much better with the camera.
Personally I blame squirrels
Or those Trash Pandas.
@@derekbowbrick6233 total trash pandas
At one point squirrel pelts were required as part of property taxes
@@ripvanrevs lol is that true ?
Where's Uncle Cathy?
Never liked the idea of oil filled ignition coil mounted on the engine, I can't see the extra heat and vibration can do them any good. I always relocate them somewhere nice and cool.
what's a 6 pack?
i've only ever heard of the 6 pack in relation to the aussie chargers and thought it was the 245 or 265 engines
3 2bbl. carbs linked together.
@@kramnull8962 ok that's logical. thanx 👍
@@simcard027 Yeah, it has slid under the rug really. So much easier to get about the same from a single 4bbl or a good TBI setup nowadays. Three 2bbl. were constantly needing tweaking with their setups. Everytime the weather changed they were off a little. In California they most likely were ok, but in NC with altitude and weather changing on trips and such, kinda hectic to mess with all the time.
Their rise to fame was more so in the ole flatheads then 59-62 Fords. Mopar brought them back up in the late 60's. Mopar used a different way of linking the carbs to open if I'm not mistaken. Which worked better, but not any better than 2 4bbl.
I watched the whole video but all I can think of is you did a fucking burn out in that beast and you didn’t record it?! You know you are a CZcamsr right? What do you have to say for yourself UTG??
Ah the new to you, old car, who was here before Me, what evidence was left behind..
@∅
Where has Kathy been? I hope all is well with her. Been a week or so that you've been filming your own vids.
A couple of hours of fiddling and she'll be fine.
Do you know about the legend Burt Munro? He's also a 🥝 kiwi
I got to 1:25 and can tell you it’s timing
My dad had both a 68 and 69 and after changing several starters and plug wires on big blocks in both he ended up taking the headers off the 69 and crushed them and threw them in the back of a 74 Chrysler land yacht we were crushing out of the junkyard and said good riddance
8 and 9 roadrunners that is
It always bugs the hell out of me when people run the wrong alt bracket setup and not take the time to use the right ones or the right alternator & nothing but fuel hose people seem to love running miles of fuel hose instead of fabing up steel line for a cleaner look
Wasnt that dylan Mcool's car?
To make them tri power system you are always haveing to mess with them. When they work right they are great. But they need a lot of care. They have always been a high maintenance item. They work best behind a auto trans were you never leave off the gas. On a stick everytime you shift and lift off the gas it has to start all over again. Unless you powershift which you are gona miss gears which is bad.
Wipe the last guys puke off and restart lol you'll have it right n tight in no time
Rats nest wiring drives me insane.
DUMP THOSE VACCUM Secondary carbs, they don't hit like some good old mechanical ones in my experience.
Tony, I'm surprised at you; let's get this straight. 1) Nomenclature: Dodges had Six Packs, Plymouths had Six Barrels. 2) That car has NEITHER; it's just a standard 440 with six barrel induction.
Go to dillen mickcool Chanel and wach the video on that car and you will no every thing he did to that car just a little tip
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Damn, six pack carbs are complex. I would rather stay with a single carb setup.
I was working on mine as a teen back in the 80’s. No different that a Holley 4 barrel vacuum secondary. Except there’ 2 secondarys!
The rad looks sketchy.
Uncle Tony's Garage...It's not a ''Six Pack Satellite''...It's a Plymouth and therefore it's a Six Barrel Satellite...just saying...
tony you gotta quit smoking or you aint gonna live much longer
C'mon Tony- track down that motorbike's owner and check out his other vehicles. Post a vid on what you find. That bloke need a mechanical uncle for advice.
I'm not a Mopar guy, but leaving plug wires laying all over and half fast repairs is UNACCEPTABLE!! The air cleaner is also necessary because if you "tune it", then put one on, you will be running rich due to less airflow! This will also screw up EVERYTHING in the tuning department 🙄
I should have just worked on REAL CARS from my late teens 😠
it otta go like stink when your done with all these niggly things