Baseball's Steroid Era Explained

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  • čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
  • From Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa's 1998 home run chase, to Barry Bonds breaking Hank Aaron's coveted home run mark, Major League Baseball was permanently stained by the steroid era. How did it start? How did it end? And how do baseball fans continue to contend with its legacy?
    Chapters:
    00:00-Intro
    00:40-1998
    02:37-A Brief History of Cheating in Baseball
    03:09-Coke! In the 1980s
    03:45-Dawn of the Steroids
    05:25-1994 Strike
    07:05-Confessions of an MVP
    08:45-What's the problem?
    11:20-Barry Lamar Bonds
    13:28-Juiced
    14:28-Baseball's Three Power Brokers
    15:58-The League
    17:14-Hammerin' Hank Aaron
    18:23-2007
    19:27-Legacy
    21:29-Blame

Komentáře • 440

  • @aaronsmith4806
    @aaronsmith4806 Před 6 měsíci +54

    Politicians took the steroid scandal more seriously than any bill to better millions of lives

    • @davidsmith-uw2ci
      @davidsmith-uw2ci Před 18 dny

      Ikr I'm if they spent half the energy helping regular ppl like they do for stuff like that America would be a better place.

    • @harrisonlinden6552
      @harrisonlinden6552 Před 10 dny

      The only time Washington has seen a piece of American culture being destroyed and actually did something about it

  • @reesejabs1895
    @reesejabs1895 Před 6 měsíci +11

    I give Jose Canseco a lot of credit for blowing the whole steroid scandal wide open.

  • @carlosriutort
    @carlosriutort Před 7 měsíci +30

    I can believe Bud Selig is in the hall of fame but the people who make him rich are not.

    • @scott6828
      @scott6828 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @carlosriutort: Great point!!!

    • @TheBatugan77
      @TheBatugan77 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Agree. Then again, so is Charles Comiskey. By Landis' standard of guilty knowledge, he was worse than the eight players who were banned.

  • @chuco6010
    @chuco6010 Před 8 měsíci +56

    Hot take here, but I still think guys like Barry Bonds, ARod, Manny Ramirez, etc should still be in the HOF. Steroids or not, they were still really damn good at what they did.

    • @kadensadich1311
      @kadensadich1311 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Couldnt agree more dude! Especially because of the fact that there is people who are in the HOF who used steroids. Like Hank Aaron has fully admitted to using steroids in his Autobiography.

    • @GreatMewtwo
      @GreatMewtwo Před 7 měsíci

      I ended up on this video thinking about Jose Canseco's snitching in his book, talking about injecting Raffi and others.

    • @ronworley1548
      @ronworley1548 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Not to mention all the players prior to integration.

    • @330wiz7
      @330wiz7 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Yea they should be. It definitely helps theres no doubt. But to pretend like these guys were garbage until they started juicing is ridiculous.
      All of those guys are special special talents. As someone who played it's so unbelievably hard to hit a high 90s fastball let alone mixing in off speeds and cutters in the 90s and hard sliders in the 80s off the fastball.
      Steroids or not if you put up the numbers these guys did you should be recognized.

    • @raychapman1134
      @raychapman1134 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I used to be completely against any steroid guys getting in the hall. After all the information that has come out over the years about MLB actively discouraging the story from getting out and blatantly ignoring the situation to cash in on the players popularity I have changed my position. The MLB had no problem with them doing it until the fans found out and the reporters who vote on the hall also ignored what was clearly occurring right in front of them so trying to act high and mighty now is just disgusting.

  • @robertbluestein7800
    @robertbluestein7800 Před 7 měsíci +55

    Wonderful perspective in this video. I wrote an article for BleacherReport in 2012 that led to me being banned. But, the story is still up! It’s called “Rethinking the asteroid Era” and I wrote it! It was highly unpopular at the time. But one thing I pointed out was that 24 NEW stadiums were built in Bonds career, every one of them brought the walls in by an average of 10 feet. Assuming that Bonds gained from this, by even 15 HRs per season, he is then at 135 less than his career. (9 seasons x 15).
    Suddenly there are more factors to the controversy today.
    One final note… The plaques on the wall in Cooperstown have the names of players did their part to keep baseball segregated.
    If we are going to decide that steroids are enough to keep certain guys out of the Hall of Fame, how is it possible to have Cap Anson, Ban Johnson, and Rogers Hornsby’s plaques up on that wall now? Who REALLY caused more damage to the game?

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv Před 7 měsíci +2

      are they (Anson, Johnson and Hornsby) branded as such? Because if they are, this might be a solution for the steroid era players

    • @derricktalbot8846
      @derricktalbot8846 Před 6 měsíci

      CAP ANSON!!!! what a fkn CVNT! One of the most influential players of the time... and by far the biggest fkn scumbag that ever got shat out of a crackwh0res ruptured fetid f-hole!!
      I gave up baseball the instant Barry Bonds did not get into the Hall of Fame.... not a single game since 2014
      we now call it an era.... but treat it as though we ALL didn't get in on the action. More fans, bigger stadiums, more tv money, more more more MORE. There is not a SINGLE player during that era that did not have their game affected by roids.... did not have their stats affected somehow by a teammate who was on the juice.... probably while rolling in the snow!
      Wow Robert!!! you really know how to set a guy off, eh? Rereading your article after so many years.... Yes Robert.... I am still seething at how righteous we get to be after the fact.... for some things of course! Every time i make this argument "either admit Bonds, or remove Anson. There is no middle ground." I get to a point where I walk someone right up to the edge of agreeing that some circumstances are ok to overlook.... then? because I am Evil and refuse to lose this argument I drop the Hard-R-N-Word... it is such a jarring and violent turn in civility and mood :) There isn't a way to agree to that without tossing out the entire argument on their side. it makes my point perfectly, that if me saying that is NOT OK, then how is the segregation era OK?
      Opp: "Sure, I'll grant you that some circumstances can and must be overlooked. But not steroids. It is 'too important'/cheating/dishonourable/blahblahblah"
      Me: "But Not *******"
      Opp:
      Otavio.... it would be objectively true to say that if Cap Anson had his head split open by an axe before that season... this world would have been a better place. Sure, someone else may have tried to pull the same stunt.... but they would not have been as influential as Cap was. I know, I know Octavio.... yes, I am Evil, and I have been fighting dirty this entire time for one single issue in a game i used to care about..... but we all dont need to fight dirty.... pick up the cause.... "Bonds in or Anson out. There is no middle ground."
      Help

    • @2K9s
      @2K9s Před 6 měsíci +2

      Boom!!

    • @baileyayyy5085
      @baileyayyy5085 Před 6 měsíci +1

      having roids exclude you from the hof and overt racism not is actually insane

    • @derricktalbot8846
      @derricktalbot8846 Před 6 měsíci

      @@baileyayyy5085 JOIN THE FIGHT!

  • @ZeRo-bx7lp
    @ZeRo-bx7lp Před 8 měsíci +67

    Barry Bombs was a HoFer even before steroids

    • @kushclarkkent6669
      @kushclarkkent6669 Před 7 měsíci +15

      Yeah his numbers blow my mind every time I pull em up. The man legitimately had TWO primes.😂

    • @helix9268
      @helix9268 Před 7 měsíci +6

      He's definitely a Hall of famer without the steroids it's a shame he used them. 💰 that's why

    • @josephbarkley3301
      @josephbarkley3301 Před 7 měsíci +3

      True. Even before steroids he was one of the greatest players of all time.

    • @andrejamison2723
      @andrejamison2723 Před 6 měsíci +7

      ​@@fredjonestowns4213nope. Because Griffey did it without

    • @WARS187
      @WARS187 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@andrejamison2723 The Kid Was The Best
      Why Did Manny Have To Take Estrogen And Fkk His Name smh

  • @WARS187
    @WARS187 Před 6 měsíci +28

    Ken Griffey Jr.
    Turned Out To Be The Best
    He Could Only Bench 175 lbs
    Dude Had Bat Speed meets Timing

    • @brianferstle6369
      @brianferstle6369 Před 5 měsíci +4

      I think he and his dad played together

    • @user-hk3hl2kz4z
      @user-hk3hl2kz4z Před 2 měsíci +1

      Wow I can finally say I can beat a pro at something 😂

    • @00ghostcobra
      @00ghostcobra Před měsícem

      @@brianferstle6369 Yes they did..

    • @davidsmith-uw2ci
      @davidsmith-uw2ci Před 18 dny

      They did play together and they even hit back to back home runs.

    • @joedimaggio1259
      @joedimaggio1259 Před 6 dny

      Funny what bothers me in this video is the fact people no longer make or know the distinction between turtle and tortoise lol wtf

  • @xx7legion7xx99
    @xx7legion7xx99 Před 6 měsíci +8

    My favorite was Palmeiro pointing his finger saying he never rook then. Then the orioles owner said he would take Canseco to court and sue for defamation for palmeiro but he declined. 6 months later he tested positive for steroids and vanished from the game.

    • @dontdoittoyoself6786
      @dontdoittoyoself6786 Před 6 měsíci

      I always saw it as something a lawyer told him to do. He even turns away as if he couldn’t hold the lie.

  • @greenleader3520
    @greenleader3520 Před 6 měsíci +20

    Honestly; it was the most exciting and entertaining era of baseball.

    • @Maxfr8
      @Maxfr8 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Right !?
      Too bad isn't wasn't authentic.

    • @greenleader3520
      @greenleader3520 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Maxfr8 it was still awesome

  • @ptythefool
    @ptythefool Před 7 měsíci +21

    Matt Williams had 43 homeruns, not 54 in 1994 @5:34. Not a big deal but he was pretty much on pace for 61.

  • @travismcnamara8919
    @travismcnamara8919 Před 7 měsíci +20

    You can definitely hit and throw harder and also run faster on coke. It also heightens your focus until you hit a tipping point where you just become jumpy.

    • @raddimusmcchoyber3362
      @raddimusmcchoyber3362 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Likewise amphetamines.

    • @georgesouthwick7000
      @georgesouthwick7000 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I can’t recall a single player who was as good after he stopped using cocaine as he was when he was using.

    • @9999bigb
      @9999bigb Před 6 měsíci +5

      Look at the 60s and 70s, they used to use Greenies all the time. Greenies were amphetamines. They used to put them in the coffee in the clubhouse. "Do you want ledded or unledded coffee" was a thing that people used to ask.

    • @JG54206
      @JG54206 Před 6 měsíci

      There isn’t any evidence to demonstrate that you could throw harder or hit a ball harder. In fact studies have shown that cocaine and amphetamines actually tend to decrease measurable performance in terms of things like velocity of the ball either thrown or batted. What they can do is enhance a players focus and their perception of their abilities. Baseball is an extremely cerebral game where confidence (I.e. perception/confidence of one’s abilities) plays a huge role. I’ll entertain an argument that those factors make it a PED but it’s kind of stretching it comparing to something like steroids which actually have measurable effects on pitching or exit velocity and raw strength. Cocaine and amphetamines are basically like having a really convincing hype man living inside your head that constantly affirms your abilities to you and makes you supremely confident in what you think you can do. There’s also the effects of enhanced ability to focus on specific tasks that can be mentioned but by that same token one could argue that techniques like hypnosis or meditation could be “performance enhancement”. It really gets into semantics at that point. Make no mistake, players like Doc were not the same without blow, but it doesn’t actually make him throw harder or increase his spin rate or anything like that. It just makes someone hyper focused and very confident which can be very effective for someone who already has a lot of natural talent and ability. There is also a flip side with steroids where they don’t do anything for a players focus or concentration and simply can’t make someone able to hit a major league fastball if they can’t hit it to begin with. It can just make someone who can already hit a major league fastball hit it much harder.

  • @mlwilliam213
    @mlwilliam213 Před 6 měsíci +8

    I remember watching McGwire refusing to talk about the past while everyone else denied everything. He got vilified for it, but I always thought it was kind of admirable. What’s done is done by that point and he couldn’t go back. But, he refused to lie. He admitted it without admitting it. There’s something to be said for a man who has every reason to lie but cannot morally do it. Probably a pretty good dude.

    • @chunkymonkey428
      @chunkymonkey428 Před 5 měsíci

      He couldn’t lie, but he could cheat? Weird moral structure.

    • @caleblawrence7105
      @caleblawrence7105 Před 5 měsíci

      Nothing was admirable about him refusing to own up to his own wrong doing and avoiding accountability.

  • @JohnSmith-zx1bg
    @JohnSmith-zx1bg Před 6 měsíci +5

    Barry Bonds also had the most BODY ARMOR ever allowed. And he had the only body armor WITH A HINGE, allowing him to swing on the same plane EVERY TIME. It went from his shoulder to his wrist and he hung it over home plate. This was the first time in 130 years something stood between the pitcher and the hitter. Pitchers could NOT get Bonds off balance or worried about getting hit. This helped Bonds waaaay more than the steroids did, and the steroids helped A LOT.

    • @Shoprestorationthe
      @Shoprestorationthe Před 6 měsíci

      I’m a Barry Bonds fan and supporter, but this comment is just dumb.

    • @JohnSmith-zx1bg
      @JohnSmith-zx1bg Před 6 měsíci

      @@Shoprestorationthe Clearly you dont understand the intricacies of baseball. READ THIS, IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES.
      insidesportsgeek.wordpress.com/2007/08/07/barry-bonds-hr-record-tainted-by-elbow-armor/

    • @evanfunk7335
      @evanfunk7335 Před 6 měsíci

      Then why dont others use it and get his results? Dumby

  • @LeglessLion
    @LeglessLion Před 7 měsíci +6

    I've never heard of anyone accusing Frank Thomas of steroids

    • @stevesyverson8625
      @stevesyverson8625 Před 7 měsíci +1

      You are correct.
      Frank Thomas will always be one of my favorites. Not because of his physical stature.
      He is a man of character, and will remain so in my eyes.

  • @michaeldequatro1012
    @michaeldequatro1012 Před 6 měsíci

    The last thing you said is so true. Some of these records will never be broken :(

  • @cleganebowldog6626
    @cleganebowldog6626 Před 9 měsíci +11

    To say the fans are to blame for steroids is similar to when modern news media tries to claim that it's viewer desire that has lead to the polarization of networks. Bullshit, just because you can exploit tendancies of your fans to make things worse, doesn't mean the viewer is to blame. I strongly disagree with the end of this video.

    • @timhall5382
      @timhall5382 Před 7 měsíci

      He also says fans didn't like players using steroids that's one of the reasons it ended then says way more people watched during that era. He is obviously a little kid but the double talk and hypocrisy in this video is amazing.

    • @otaviofrn_adv
      @otaviofrn_adv Před 7 měsíci

      but you don't deny it was a tendency... actually it was a major one.
      If you don't think someone wasn't going to exploit, you're drinking the kool aid.
      Giving people what they want always work

  • @Whitegorillaboy
    @Whitegorillaboy Před 7 měsíci +3

    Frank Thomas was a 6'5" 270 pounder who didn't need PEDs. But neither he nor anyone else could get his numbers without his freak natural size. He was a first baseman, couldn't play any other position, and couldn't run the bases. He was strictly a hitter who could only play first or DH. Steroids were used in BB because its players mostly weren't dedicated strength athletes who trained in the off-season on power or footspeed. It took me 6 years and a 20 lb weight gain to reach a natural 400 bench press, after which I could hit baseballs 400 feet. Pro baseballers didn't want to work that hard so they used drugs to get there faster. Now baseballers all hit the weight room from high school on, so PEDs are not as necessary.

    • @somekindaguy100
      @somekindaguy100 Před 6 měsíci

      Took you 6 years (well done by the way) 6 years on 20 million a year ,that is why they use .Do it all in one off season and maintain it and your rolling in the money .Effort is still there but they don't have 6 years to hit their peak and quite frankly I don't blame them

    • @user-hk3hl2kz4z
      @user-hk3hl2kz4z Před 2 měsíci

      400lb bench nice

  • @Jobuwins92
    @Jobuwins92 Před 7 měsíci

    A part 2 is needed. Heck maybe even a part 3. So much missing.

  • @DarrylBarnes
    @DarrylBarnes Před 6 měsíci +3

    McGuire hit 49 his rookie year weighing 186 lbs..McGuire simply went from hitting 450ft home runs to 500 foot home runs regardless he was putting term over the fence. Maybe the PEDs helped his shitty back. The only thing that increased was the number of games he played. He was hitting home runs at the same avg per at bat his whole career.

  • @richardkenny3837
    @richardkenny3837 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Tony gwynn was always a remarkable contact hitter. He never had a lot of power if he was on roads his home run totals would have quadrupled.

  • @georgesouthwick7000
    @georgesouthwick7000 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Not to defend Bonds, but it was common knowledge in MLB at that time that steroid use was massive. Bonds believed, and rightly so that he was better than both Sosa and McGwire, but they were getting all the publicity, thanks to their steroid use. Therefore, he made the decision to start using.

    • @aaronsmith4806
      @aaronsmith4806 Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah, everyone knew. Nobody cared because ratings were off the charts! ESPN had content every night with the races.

    • @Ninjersey1
      @Ninjersey1 Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah but bonds took HGH and other crazy designer steroids he and McGwire transformed into mutants

    • @Blokewood3
      @Blokewood3 Před 6 měsíci

      But Bonds was a successful player already. Using drugs because other people got attention from the press is very petty.

  • @thomaslynch1853
    @thomaslynch1853 Před 7 měsíci +180

    Frank Thomas was not rumored and spoke openly against it his entire career. He also never had an absurd 50 homer out of nowhere year. He was the definition of consistency. So get those facts straightened out in an otherwise decent video.

    • @kushclarkkent6669
      @kushclarkkent6669 Před 7 měsíci +18

      Yep! He was The Big Hurt for heaven's sake! The man has always been massive. Just look at pictures of him at Auburn lol.

    • @rowdyghost4713
      @rowdyghost4713 Před 7 měsíci

      Lol you know how many people “speak out against it” who were clearly on it? Don’t be so naive. The fact of the matter is your favorite baseball player from the 70s all the way through the early 2000s likely took illegal PEDs or stimulants. It’s something that is widely spoken about and widely known. So to sit up here and say “oh he openly was against it” it’s all fluff dude.

    • @dltguitar6532
      @dltguitar6532 Před 7 měsíci +34

      now he pushes those weird commercials for testosterone boosting/boner pills so I wouldn't be shocked if he used steroids back then lol

    • @Jobuwins92
      @Jobuwins92 Před 7 měsíci +14

      Lmao so naive. I love it though. Never meet your heroes

    • @djquinn11
      @djquinn11 Před 7 měsíci +8

      They were all juicing

  • @rogerj21
    @rogerj21 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Wow man...what a great video 🔥
    And yes we all have the blame and the players where the only ones paying for it.

  • @iskander0725
    @iskander0725 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I'm just going to state this before I watch. If Bud Selig is in the MLB HoF, Barry Bonds, Mark Mcgwire, Sammy Sosa, and ALL of those legendary cheaters should be HoF'ers too. Simply put, that chucklehead not only knew but encouraged steroid usage with his cover ups and defense of all those players one time or another.

  • @flame-sky7148
    @flame-sky7148 Před 7 měsíci +19

    I'm glad you covered the pitchers juicing too. You wanna know why Alex Rodriguez doesn't have 700 to 800 hrs? It's because testing was in place and he got busted twice thus serving two suspensions. You don't have to wonder about putting an asterisk by his numbers. Matt Williams had 43 not 54, and Griffey Jr. had 40 before the strike. It was a great year, and it was going to be better. Again, how do you cheat a test, when there is no test? Baseball waited too late for testing.

    • @chamuuemura5314
      @chamuuemura5314 Před 6 měsíci

      So you’re saying that A-Roid took PEDs? I’m shocked!

    • @justvibing2497
      @justvibing2497 Před 6 měsíci +3

      He only served one

    • @flame-sky7148
      @flame-sky7148 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Correct, but he was suspended 211 games, which is more than one season. First PED offense is 80 games, a second one is 162 games.

  • @drjoseed
    @drjoseed Před 6 měsíci

    Loves this video, keep it up

  • @gliiitched
    @gliiitched Před 7 měsíci +6

    What I find weird about this is that barry bonds is the face of the steroid era when it very well could have been Canseco, who literally needed them to get into the league or Lenny Dykstra, who actually did heinous shit with the power his career gave him.

    • @JG54206
      @JG54206 Před 6 měsíci

      Barry Bonds is definitely a victim of media bias against him due to his adversarial relationship with reporters and journalists as well as the fact that he is the guy broke historic records. Strangely enough McGwire and Sosa who also broke the single season record aren’t the target of such ire from many fans or reporters, largely because they had a better relationship with the media. The main reason he’s the villain is his attitude and relationship with the press, and other players who have said he was incredibly selfish. Clemens (to a lesser extent) is also seen as a villain by many. He didn’t really have a bad relationship with the press but many other players couldn’t stand him.

  • @tessp100d4
    @tessp100d4 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Canseco was the only one who boldly told the truth. And he was blackballed.

  • @rustyapellido4611
    @rustyapellido4611 Před 6 měsíci

    excellent video!

  • @hectorlumbagoCringe
    @hectorlumbagoCringe Před měsícem

    Nice work

  • @BobG127
    @BobG127 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Frank Thomas regularly lobbied to make drug tests mandatory while he was in his prime. He knew he was clean and knew that cheaters were giving their teams undeserved advantages -- and possibly cheating him out of MVP's and larger contracts. He was the best hitter in decades -- and the best of all time, by some measures.

  • @flame-sky7148
    @flame-sky7148 Před 2 měsíci

    There are three categories to this enigma. 1. There are guys who juiced that got caught failing a test ( A-Rod, Manny Ramirez, Palmeiro, Braun). 2 There are guys who most likely used but never failed or took a test like (McGwire, Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield). 3. There are players who were highly suspicious but are in the HOF like (Pudge, Ortiz, Bagwell). Frank Thomas was never suspected of juicing. By the way the first juicer in baseball's HOF was a pitcher by the name Pud Galvin, as he used the Brown-Séquard elixir (Look him up).

  • @zendoargos4988
    @zendoargos4988 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Barry Bonds was one of the all-time greats before he ever juiced. His ego was even bigger than his swollen head though and wanted the accolades that other players were getting so he went from one of the best to ever play to absolute 'God-mode' for a season or two. It was unfair how good he was when he was on the juice.
    Bonds never needed it but took it anyway, that's why I personally dislike him.
    Compared to a guy that was trying to get to the bigs, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens were all super star players that got greedy, but if you can't beat them...join them...and then beat them in a steroid fueled rage.
    I also like how people tend to gloss over the bowls of "greenies" and other amphetemines that were common in clubhouses during past eras of the game. They might not help you hit the ball 500 feet, but they can help you hit the ball in the second game of a double header after a night of drinking so they can't be ignored. The previous eras weren't clean, even if they didn't have steroids.

    • @ptythefool
      @ptythefool Před 7 měsíci +1

      'God mode for a season or two' was 4 consecutive seasons (01-04), 5 if you want to include 2000. You don't build up fear by only popping off once or twice, its a culmination of sustained excellence. A good example is sammy sosa, even though he was hitting 50-66 homeruns a year for 4 consecutive seasons, he wasn't really respected or feared until maybe the final season. And even then, he probably wasn't because you could still get him out. He was striking out a lot. (150-175 a season)
      As for the other stuff, bonds unintentionally kind of ruined baseball for me. Its like watching prime tiger woods or rodger federer.. once you see excellence, everything else is ordinary. Everyone loves mike trout and ohtani and I'm just like... meh. Even aaron judges 62 was somewhat underwhelming, he needed so many extra plate appearances with shenanigans of being put 1st or 2nd in the order.
      And yes cheating has always been an issue in baseball, but no one seems to care unless it has a significant impact IE astros sign stealing or players actually getting an advantage which led to records being beaten/tainted.
      They should let steroid users into the hall of fame. Its a museum to tell the history of baseball, not some sacred squeaky clean record keeping place.

    • @stingrey1571
      @stingrey1571 Před 7 měsíci +3

      in 1998, bonds had a mvp caliber season. NO ONE remembers that because everyone was fixated on sosa and mcgwire. i dont blame him at all for juicing.

    • @XxCorvette1xX
      @XxCorvette1xX Před 6 měsíci

      How do you know Bonds knowingly took steroids?
      There’s no proof

    • @choosecarefully408
      @choosecarefully408 Před 4 měsíci

      *That's* the effing _POINT!!_ It's impossible for someone _not_ on 'roids to play every day _AND_ hit the gym. So Everyone Knew that McGwire & Co were cheating. & Bonds was *getting overlooked **_because OF_* cheaters.
      & you the fans want so desperately to cheer on people with Successful Stats that whether or not they work to earn them didn't make a difference to *you!* & now you're trying to blame Bonds? Which _is_ it? _Is_ it bad for *him* to use steroids or _DO_ you want to praise players who do?

  • @toddwoodward9451
    @toddwoodward9451 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Yes Frank Thomas and Ivan Rodriguez were accused, but it was never proven. They both completely deserve their spots in Cooperstown.

    • @jaredbrinkman3343
      @jaredbrinkman3343 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ivan rodriguez was guilty af. canseco himself said he did and that man has an insanely good track record on that. thomas is innocent

  • @edwardwong654
    @edwardwong654 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Who was that Redsox guy in the blue jersey at the beginning of the video?

    • @edwardwong654
      @edwardwong654 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah I think it is nomar garciaparra - aka the Juicer.

  • @RRR-ox9ud
    @RRR-ox9ud Před 6 měsíci +2

    Shows you how dominate "The Kid" was.
    Dont blame the lifelong fan, blame the casual. Some of my favorite baseball games of all-time rarely hit the over.

  • @edmundkempersdartboard173
    @edmundkempersdartboard173 Před 8 měsíci +3

    The fact that you don't have much more than 2000 subs is criminal. Great videos.

  • @astralflick
    @astralflick Před 6 měsíci +1

    I simultaneously hold the opinions that Bonds was one of the best players of all time, and that Aaron still has the home run record. I can understand arguments for and against Bonds in the HOF.

    • @thomaslemon3971
      @thomaslemon3971 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That’s exactly how I feel. So torn…because Bonds had an amazing batting eye/plate discipline, mechanically perfect swing, and a very high baseball IQ. But he roided up to such a cartoonish level that you can’t take his records seriously. It was so beyond obvious that he was cheating. Mr. Henry Aaron was (and is) the MAN.

  • @randallmartin2508
    @randallmartin2508 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Matt Williams had 54 homeruns in mid August? Wow! I remember him having 43, but I’m watching this on the internet so it has to be true.

    • @derricktalbot8846
      @derricktalbot8846 Před 6 měsíci +2

      HOLY JEEPERS! Thanks Randall!❤🤩❤ I would have gone my entire life thinking it was only 43 until you let me know that the internet is right.
      This is going to save me SOOO much time..... I got to hurry now and pour boiling ginseng and juniper oil in my ear to cure my tinitis!!!!
      LOVE YOU MAN!🍻🦫🍁❤

  • @michaelrousey7418
    @michaelrousey7418 Před 7 měsíci +27

    They should be thanking those players because they saved baseball.

  • @standepain
    @standepain Před 7 měsíci +3

    Newsflash. Steroids never went away.

  • @dospostmann9361
    @dospostmann9361 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Barry bonds is the biggest trash player to ever take the field.... it was the way he treated fans and media not the fact that he was juiced beyond belief

  • @justvibing2497
    @justvibing2497 Před 6 měsíci

    It saved baseball super exciting times for baseball. Blame jose. Also sammmy still to this day said he didn't juice. Truly shocking. Great vid

  • @user-hk3hl2kz4z
    @user-hk3hl2kz4z Před 2 měsíci

    It’s a multi-faceted issue that is not cut and dry; you did an excellent job presenting alternative perspectives.
    To me I feel the MLB enabled the steroid era by not implementing testing until a decade after steroids were officially banned.
    I feel the commissioner (who has wiped his hands of the situation entirely) should either be removed from the Hall of Fame; or the dope legends should be inducted perhaps with an *

  • @carykingiv9569
    @carykingiv9569 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Bonds used a topical cream that didn't enhance or juice up his swing. He used it like anyone would to heal some light injury. It ain't at all like the regimen that is used to gain strength and bulk.

    • @evanfunk7335
      @evanfunk7335 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Lol he literally ballooned up and became a muscle monster. Topical cream...

  • @deanw0rmer
    @deanw0rmer Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nobody would have cared if Bonds and Clemens hadn’t got involved. Both were assholes. McGwire and Sosa were loved

  • @DemetriusEvans-gr9wu
    @DemetriusEvans-gr9wu Před 2 měsíci

    Glad to see the love for Henry

  • @humanbeing2420
    @humanbeing2420 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Len Dykstra used steroids??? I'm shocked.

  • @d4c_reznor470
    @d4c_reznor470 Před 14 dny

    Considering how many all stars didn’t take steroids in this era like Griffey, Jeter, the great Seattle 8, I’d even make a case for Jim Edmonds, roids weren’t even necessary. Taking drugs isn’t the same as spitballs or stealing signs

  • @fliplife67
    @fliplife67 Před 7 měsíci +3

    The funny thing about that ERA is how KC Royals team leader in homers in there frans history was only 36 in a season which was set in 1985 but didnt get surpass until 2017.

  • @pashanoble9359
    @pashanoble9359 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video. No Aaron Judge? I'm surprised.

    • @somekindaguy100
      @somekindaguy100 Před 6 měsíci

      He is not on the juice that's why 🧐

    • @pashanoble9359
      @pashanoble9359 Před 6 měsíci

      @@somekindaguy100 I didn't imply that he was. I was referring to the end of the video when he was talking about the time since. I was surprised he didn't mention Judge and his 62 home runs.

  • @JohnnyGingy
    @JohnnyGingy Před 7 měsíci +8

    I’m 33 (so not an old baseball fan) I grew up in the steroid era and I think all those cheaters need to stay out of the hall. Aaron is the one true homerun king.

    • @reynaldoflores0923
      @reynaldoflores0923 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ❤❤🎉

    • @Turnkey_BM
      @Turnkey_BM Před 6 měsíci +1

      PED's literally saved baseball. If you compared these "cheaters" to the other "cheaters" of their era, they were greats.

    • @dontdoittoyoself6786
      @dontdoittoyoself6786 Před 6 měsíci

      There’s already cheaters in the Hall of Fame and including the guy that signed off on the cheating Bud Selig.

    • @John-ct9zs
      @John-ct9zs Před 6 měsíci +1

      baseball is built on cheating. It's the dirtiest sport in America, despite all the mythology about it being some "clean" sport.

    • @XxCorvette1xX
      @XxCorvette1xX Před 6 měsíci +1

      When did Bonds get caught?
      How do you know he knowingly took steroids?

  • @michaelrousey7418
    @michaelrousey7418 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Do you realize that Barry bonds never tested positive for steroids? MLB knew all about it. And when they got caught, they put the blame on certain people that they didn't like. I know somebody that played during that time. And he said 1 year they barely had a Wait room and the next year they had a huge weight room.. MLB knew what was going on.

    • @andrejamison2723
      @andrejamison2723 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Yes he did

    • @michaelrousey7418
      @michaelrousey7418 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@andrejamison2723 Where was this?

    • @somekindaguy100
      @somekindaguy100 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@andrejamison2723no he didn't .....ever .

    • @megatron3859
      @megatron3859 Před 6 měsíci

      @@michaelrousey7418 He tested positive for Nandrolone and Methenolone. The test might have been anonymous but a high enough percentage tested positive which triggered regular testing. Later the names were leaked. He's still greatest baseball player i've ever seen.

    • @proofessor8062
      @proofessor8062 Před 6 měsíci

      @@michaelrousey7418 you dont even have to look outside of baseball stats to see when he started seriously roiding. i like bonds but you are just being disingenuous

  • @Damuthafuccka
    @Damuthafuccka Před 7 měsíci +1

    Correction, Matt Williams had 43 hrs 96 RBI not 54 hrs

  • @JTCT371
    @JTCT371 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Just because MLB turned a blind eye to this, due to ratings being in the tank for the time (this era got people paying attention again) doesn't mean its not cheating, and ANY records set should come along with an ASTERISK.

  • @andrejamison2723
    @andrejamison2723 Před 6 měsíci +1

    McGwire was not a big guy when he was a rookie. He was a natural HR hitter. He took Andro due to injuries.

  • @voicevitality7197
    @voicevitality7197 Před 7 měsíci

    Did you say Tony Gwynn or Tony Glenn?

  • @CaptainHarris-ip2kg
    @CaptainHarris-ip2kg Před 6 měsíci

    16:38. I've never seen a player get charged for charging the mound, nor spend time in jail nor pay a fine to the city or county, much less get charged for steroid use in the 90s. Integrity doesn't mean a thing if you're not going to enforce the laws regular people have to obey.

  • @KenTheMan407
    @KenTheMan407 Před 6 dny

    I miss this baseball so much

  • @michaelpoulos7361
    @michaelpoulos7361 Před 7 měsíci

    How do you not know who Matt Williams is….won the World Series w the Dbacks in 2001 and was a coach for them and the nationals…..

  • @tessp100d4
    @tessp100d4 Před 6 měsíci +1

    And… it’s was a Federal crime for doing steroids even MLB didn’t have a rule against. It was against the law.

  • @stingrey1571
    @stingrey1571 Před 7 měsíci +1

    no one and i mean no one seems to point out the third player in the steroid era. you had the players, management/owners, and THE MEDIA!!!!!
    when it was a player they liked, the baseball press looked the other way or made excuses. no one cared until media pariah bonds began obliterating records. then "OH WE HAVE A PROBLEM!"
    i remember some of the lame excuses writers used for their favorite players.
    "he's not juicing, he's too skinny/fat."
    "not him, he's a good guy."
    "he's not using because he's a christian." (an actual quote from richard justice)

  • @philmaio2335
    @philmaio2335 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love the video but please slow down a bit

    • @andthebeatgoeson69
      @andthebeatgoeson69 Před 8 měsíci

      .75 speed might work for ya. I enjoyed the pace l, some folks talk to slow

  • @TSgtOzzy
    @TSgtOzzy Před 6 měsíci

    1st: Barry Bonds never failed a single MLB drug test and my hope is that he files a lawsuit against you and takes everything you own.
    2nd: During my 2009 military deployment, I weight lifted 6 days a week, ate 4-5 full meals per day, drank tons of water and gained more than 50lbs over a 6 month period, when ALL of my coworkers lost weight from the intense 120 degree heat and our outdoor activities. This included my head getting bigger in size as my hat no longer fit my head. The military was drug testing us 3-4 times a year back then. I've never taken steroids and I've never failed a drug test. With this in mind, why is it unfathomable for you to believe that a player can workout before and after a game (which Bonds did), have a personal trainer, strict diet and won't gain in size?
    3rd: The MLB hall of fame is an absolute joke. It's voted on by sports writers, some of whom have never played the game beyond Little League. Why not the players, the previously elected hall of fame members, the owners? The voting sports writers are a bunch of old men who want their beloved game to stay in the 1920's.
    Last: David Ortiz was not "suspected" of using steroids, he was busted and suspended for his use. Thus, proving my point that the hall of fame is a joke if he got in but they won't let Sosa, McGwire and the rest in. You still have to decipher whether it's a fastball, curve, slider, change-up, sinker, splitter, a ball or a strike, whether you're going to drive it opposite field up the middle or pull it and whether you can get lift on it all in a fraction of a second. Steroids doesn't help with any of that. My hope is that you are sued immediately!

  • @ryandonovan5205
    @ryandonovan5205 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It was a challenge to see who could have the biggest head and the smallest nuts

  • @bennygarcia1913
    @bennygarcia1913 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The fans are not to blame.

  • @bdn8161
    @bdn8161 Před 6 měsíci

    Sosa and McGwire weren’t only chasing records, but chasing the best cycle.

  • @jimpesca4076
    @jimpesca4076 Před 3 měsíci

    Sadly, this confirms what I already knew. I quit having any interest in baseball after the 94-95 strike. I was in shock that the rest of the season was cancelled. I had waited so long for the Yankees to finally be a contender again, and they had already won 70 games at this point. Can't express the delight. My grandson who comes from the St. Louis area rarely talks to me after I stupidly cued him in on McGuire (his "hero"). What a complete joke. A record of 60 home runs held for 30 years, and magickly, we have to ass clowns at absurd levels neck, and neck. Yeah right. The steroid use really kicked in after that point, and as we all know, the "long ball" was needed to restore attendance. Every time I hear of a "new" record, I just smile, but still sad inside in what the game has become.

  • @tessp100d4
    @tessp100d4 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Never, never let them in.

  • @sentryogmixmaster
    @sentryogmixmaster Před 6 měsíci

    mannn i remember that time Lance Armstrong hit 16 homers in one game. i truly believed him when he said he did not use PEDs! 💔

  • @jackhastings9800
    @jackhastings9800 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Bonds head was normal, then it grew larger then Rosie Odonalds

  • @RickyWatter32
    @RickyWatter32 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Damn, after watching this I feel bad for the sport of baseball.

  • @kenwaller676
    @kenwaller676 Před 6 měsíci

    The thing an average person can’t understand is there is no drug that can make you able to hit a ball with a round bat thrown at 90 plus mph.

  • @ronmartinelli5772
    @ronmartinelli5772 Před měsícem

    First of all, I knew my favorite athletes were using ped's!
    I appreciated all of the milestones that were achieved. It was fun to watch.
    They should allow and not stop great players from being inducted into the halls of fames in any sport. They are using an * in baseball which is fine. They should not restrict any greats like Barry Bonds. Period.

  • @kevincharles1983
    @kevincharles1983 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Nolan Ryan must be the exception

  • @stooch66
    @stooch66 Před 4 měsíci

    Criminal to include Frank Thomas. He was always huge. The guy was a tight end at Auburn. He never hit tons of bombs because he was an all-around hitter. In fact, he got screwed out of an MVP by Jason Giambi…
    And, most importantly, I don’t recall anyone seriously suggesting he was using. Could he have been? Sure…but he was outspoken against it and got overshadowed by all those guys….so, I think the evidence suggests he was cheated…not that he did cheat.

  • @fernandoenriquez432
    @fernandoenriquez432 Před 7 měsíci

    The body doesn't naturally grow by just a workout it needs a push plus is impossible to hit the ball so many times without wrist pain now and days you can't drink a vitamin shake without being called a cheater

  • @user-qn2dt2ct1p
    @user-qn2dt2ct1p Před 6 měsíci

    What was cheated was Barry Bonds, as the National baseball allowed teams to walk Barry Bonds even with the bases loaded. This was the most open discrimination and lack of sportsmanship ever.

  • @pillwolak
    @pillwolak Před 6 měsíci +1

    Is it true Barry Bonds helmet size increased 2 sizes after he started taking PEDs?

  • @AnthonyScarpa-er3sq
    @AnthonyScarpa-er3sq Před 6 měsíci

    Barry Bonds Like him or Not ! He was a Hall of Famer even before the steroids... Steroids has nothing to do with hand eye coordination and he was the best player by far in his Era..

  • @timwinfree6880
    @timwinfree6880 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What is sad is barry would have hit 600 with or with out steroids.

  • @steveralston8837
    @steveralston8837 Před 6 měsíci

    McGwire actually wanted to tell the truth at the hearing. But for some baffling reason, they told him the night before that they wouldn't give him immunity.

  • @MiamiStJames
    @MiamiStJames Před 7 měsíci

    I’d would love to back to those days! I can’t watch it anymore it’s too boring!

  • @mattdennis7511
    @mattdennis7511 Před 23 dny

    Matt had 43 in the strike shortened season.

  • @sarge420
    @sarge420 Před 4 měsíci

    Add Tiger Woods as well. His head got bigger like Barry Bonds’

  • @voicevitality7197
    @voicevitality7197 Před 7 měsíci

    Humble kid from California. There's a sentence you never hear.

  • @haydenhatcher9314
    @haydenhatcher9314 Před 6 měsíci

    Idc what people say the serious era of baseball was the best and most exciting time of baseball.

  • @travishutchison6459
    @travishutchison6459 Před 6 měsíci

    You spelled "greatest and most entertaining Era of baseball since the 60s" wrong.

  • @theman1412
    @theman1412 Před 6 měsíci

    3:31, Is that true???

  • @natetete1379
    @natetete1379 Před 6 měsíci

    After the steroids era, the MLB has been changing in order to get back to that level of excitement. If anything getting back to that level post steroid era is why baseball has made a comeback.

  • @00ghostcobra
    @00ghostcobra Před měsícem

    The '94 strike had taken all of the fans away from the game... It was the steroid era and the homeruns that brought them back. That is just a fact. We may not even have the game today were it not for the steroid era..

  • @SupplementalSense
    @SupplementalSense Před 6 měsíci

    For some reason many people are under the impression that Bonds did the most steroids or something and that's why he did the best. No, Bonds showed us what happens when an all-time great is enhanced by steroids. Enhanced Bonds is the same thing as a steroid using Ted Williams. Most of these guys in the steroid era were not Hall of Fame material and some not even MLB caliber players without it. But to lump in Bonds, Clemens, and A-Rod with all steroid users is a shame, because they are truly generational talents anyway.

  • @danm9460
    @danm9460 Před 7 měsíci

    Why does this have a photo of Barry bonds with the word cheater next to it? I didn't watch because this seems to lack credibility from the beginning

  • @mickeywhite7878
    @mickeywhite7878 Před 6 měsíci

    In the 60’s and 70’s the players all took ‘greenies’, basically a speed pill. Nobody talks about that. Heck, if you think about it, a cup of coffee is a performance enhancer. Bonds and Clemens should definitely be in, 2 of the best players I ever saw.

  • @Trav81888
    @Trav81888 Před 6 měsíci +1

    How dare you say Frank Thomas may have used steroids.

  • @Silver_79
    @Silver_79 Před 5 měsíci

    It’s kinda funny….As a kid your parents would tell you that stealing a penny or $100 was the same thing, it’s stealing, it’s the principle…….But as a grown-up playing a professional sport, it’s not the principle, it’s to what extent you violate the principle.
    In the MLB, NFL & NBA you can “play outside the rules” as long as you don’t play outside all of them and still get into your respective HOF.
    You can cheat and still be a HOF’er….You just can’t cheat on/about “certain” things……smh

  • @JohnSmith-zw8vp
    @JohnSmith-zw8vp Před 6 měsíci

    14:22 -- Baseball's "I did NOT...have...sexual...relations..." moment.

  • @petermitchell2729
    @petermitchell2729 Před 6 měsíci

    Barry Bonds was hard to like even without the steroids. His stats are amazing, but he had few friends, even amongst team mates.

  • @matthewpulizos3444
    @matthewpulizos3444 Před 5 měsíci

    Never trust the media is the best thing said in this video

  • @edwardbailey7911
    @edwardbailey7911 Před 6 měsíci +1

    None of the roid users should ever be in the HOF

    • @seka1986
      @seka1986 Před 5 měsíci

      A separate RHOID hall of fame maybe.