Kenney Jones (The Faces/The Who) - Interview with Spike [PART ONE]

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  • The first in our two part interview with The Faces, Small Faces and The Who's Kenney Jones - we visited him at his home last month and chatted to him about his time with bands, his views on drumming and how he became the drummer he is today!
    PART TWO: • Kenney Jones (The Face...
    SAM KELLY: • Sam Kelly (Session Dru...
    REINTRODUCTION: • Spike Reintroduces Mad...
    ORIGINAL INTRO: • Spike Webb introduces ...
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    Don't forget that Spike's book 'Mad, Bad and Dangerous - The Book of Drummers' Tales' is in stores now, and can be purchased from online retailers as either a paperback or for kindle. It includes stories from over 40 famous drummers including Topper Headon (The Clash), Nick Mason (Pink Floyd), Nigel Glocklier (Saxon), Rick Buckler (The Jam) and many more!
    VIDEO CREDITS
    Director/Editor: George Day
    Producers: George Day / Spike Webb
    Associate Producer: Jerome Marcus
    Special Thanks: Neil Armstrong
    Produced by DMLK Video
    www.dmlk.co.uk
    MUSIC
    Breakdown - Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Komentáře • 151

  • @michaelr4063
    @michaelr4063 Před 5 lety +30

    If Kenney never played with The Who, he's still a British rock legend. Small Faces.

  • @twinkle3026
    @twinkle3026 Před 3 lety +7

    Kenny, has aged wonderfully well! Like a fine wine! xxxx

  • @tremoloreverb
    @tremoloreverb Před 5 lety +19

    Kenny is pure, this interview is pure. This is one of the most honest interviews ever. Kenny Jones has seen all of fame, yet keeps focused, honest and one can see, this dude has seen it all, yet he stays a bit humble. He's the real deal.

  • @johntosh0061
    @johntosh0061 Před 4 lety +17

    Top man Jonesy. And a survivor too. He's taken good care of himself.

  • @deletebilderberg
    @deletebilderberg Před rokem +2

    Spent twenty minutes with Kenney in the 90s as he waited ever so patiently for another TV interview. Totally in awe of this absolute legend. So, so friendly and nice.

  • @colinturner4158
    @colinturner4158 Před 2 lety +5

    Brilliant drummer and comes across as a really nice guy

  • @chriscoleman6358
    @chriscoleman6358 Před 6 lety +19

    Kenny you're one of the most humblest man in rock and roll many blessings to you

    • @nonmember8725
      @nonmember8725 Před 3 lety +2

      It's either most humble, or humblest...... but not most humblest.

    • @petermills542
      @petermills542 Před rokem +1

      @@nonmember8725
      The 'double superlative' is one of my pet hates!
      So many people do this nowadays. Aaagh !! 😂

    • @nonmember8725
      @nonmember8725 Před rokem +1

      @@petermills542 I hear you!! My wife and I do it as a joke. 🙃

  • @earthshinerush3842
    @earthshinerush3842 Před 4 lety +10

    Kenney’s a legend.

  • @GuitarDad5000
    @GuitarDad5000 Před 4 lety +12

    It really does not matter if he was the perfect stand in for Keith, although I thought he was outstanding. Truly, who could be a stand in for KM? We will never see another Keith who deserves his due as a transformational innovative drummer who probably never saw it that way, he was just being himself God bless. Kenney is a great original musician of his own who stepped in at the invitation of The Who and did a fantastic job when they needed a good drummer and friend they could trust, and that is what they got. It's a great story about a great band and great musicians who, best I can tell, were a great group of brilliantly talented blokes at the right place and time in rock history. I've watched a few clips of KJ and he seems a gentleman rock drummer of the highest order. Wish him and his generation of peers the best, and thank you for great music and memories.

  • @GuyWithNoName67
    @GuyWithNoName67 Před 11 lety +18

    It just dawned on me. This guy played with not one, but all three of my favorite vocalists.

  • @pdbordelon
    @pdbordelon Před 3 lety +4

    Probably my favorite drummer of all time!

  • @Dogdrum
    @Dogdrum Před 8 lety +8

    Great interview. For all that he's seen and experienced, he's a man firmly balanced in his outlook and attitude. Great role model.

  • @paullevinsky2970
    @paullevinsky2970 Před 4 lety +6

    Kenny Jones is one of my all time favorite drummers. Not because he has the best chops I've ever heard but because he just embodies rock drumming. His power, the interplay between his hands and feet, the amazing SOUND of his drums. Those old records explode with an energy and enthusiasm that borders on sloppy but is just amazingly funky! I've been playing for forty-five years and all my life I've tried to emulate that "intentional sloppiness". It's hard as hell. But I'll keep trying. Thank you Kenny!!

  • @jerryonspeed
    @jerryonspeed Před 9 lety +8

    Excellent interview! What great and humble guy Kenny Jones is. Thanks for sharing this! Cheers, Jerry

    • @spikewebb8783
      @spikewebb8783 Před 9 lety

      +jerryonspeed You're welcome Jerry - glad you enjoyed it!

  • @FredHerrman
    @FredHerrman Před 5 lety +15

    His work on “Face Dances” and on lt’s Hard” was absolutely expert. Listen to how crisp his playing is on the Face Dances tune, “Daily Records.” Just stellar.

    • @andrewfurst5711
      @andrewfurst5711 Před 3 lety +2

      Agreed. If there's anything holding back those albums, it's not the drumming. Actually "It's Hard" is quite underrated, and "Face Dances" has some good songs but also several weak ones, IMO. Not Kenney's fault though.

    • @rickacton7540
      @rickacton7540 Před 3 lety

      @@andrewfurst5711 "underrated"?

    • @krickshorts5346
      @krickshorts5346 Před 2 lety

      Dam right!

  • @mygirlpiper
    @mygirlpiper Před 7 lety +59

    He was the right man at the right time for THE WHO, he did not try to pretend to be Keith moon in anyway he was his own man and it showed " class act". He received unfair criticism, but he was the right drummer for THE WHO "82" tour, I thank him.

    • @christopherkemp897
      @christopherkemp897 Před 7 lety

      Lisa Moreno j

    • @Robcatist
      @Robcatist Před 6 lety +4

      Keith Moon couldn’t repeat himself half the time so no one else was gonna be able to do it.

    • @mygirlpiper
      @mygirlpiper Před 6 lety

      Patrick Catherall I'm glad you agree BECAUSE I think it would've been a tragic mistake if The Who tried to hire someone a Keith Moon 2.0 clone, it would not have worked because of the constant comparison - Keith Moon's style a " organized mess that played instinctually creative in the moment" No one could do that job AND the hiring of Kenny is the polar opposite - Kenny was a timekeeper that brought structure to The Who " and yes a different sounding WHO" BUT still held together the unique sound of The Who - Plus I loved the way they structured the songs on the "82" tour with Kenny, the songs were true to the original intent and sound of The Who "Live" - Kenny's drum rolls " were awesome and spot on" after Roger's scream from WGFA - " 1982" sound system was massive and Kenny did his job " powerful sound" Saw them in Philly on that tour And The Ground Is Still Rumbling. LOL.

    • @sarasarah1810
      @sarasarah1810 Před 6 lety +2

      Lisa Moreno no he was not!!!....he was wrong for the who....and the who was wrong for him......

    • @mygirlpiper
      @mygirlpiper Před 6 lety

      sarah sarah Alright then, That's your opinion AND it doesn't change mine - Nothing ever stays the same WITH Keith Moon it was the ultimate WHO and with Kenny it was a different kinda WHO but they were still powerful in every way BUT DIFFERENT !!! - THE WHO rocked no matter what decade OR Lineup."

  • @whiteninja9481
    @whiteninja9481 Před rokem +1

    Absolutely love Kenny with The Faces. Awesome band members!

  • @raycali1946
    @raycali1946 Před 6 lety +11

    Amazing how Kenny looks. He has to be. 68- 70 at least. Looks like he is in his 50’s. Healthy. Great color. God bless him

  • @joyplant6275
    @joyplant6275 Před 3 lety +4

    Kenny hasnt aged a bit love you ken

  • @brendamchugh6522
    @brendamchugh6522 Před 4 lety +4

    such wonderfull times and music great drummer Steve Marriott much missed love him

  • @brianfreeman8290
    @brianfreeman8290 Před 2 lety +1

    I SO enjoyed that! Great to see KJ looking so well. I bumped into him at the Goodwood Revival about eight years ago. To shake his hand was a huge honour for me.

  • @squirrels103
    @squirrels103 Před 3 lety +3

    The Small Faces, The Faces and then The Who.

  • @SCHP1068
    @SCHP1068 Před 6 lety +2

    Face Dances is one of my favorite albums. I loved his drumming on every song of that album...

  • @kimh5566
    @kimh5566 Před 9 lety +6

    Love the finale . . . "It really doesn't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing." And, he's got it. Amen to that!

  • @kevhow2190
    @kevhow2190 Před 5 lety +6

    "It's only Rock and Roll. But I like it." Kenny Jones

  • @plasticweapon
    @plasticweapon Před 3 lety +1

    kenney, those two who albums and your eork on them mean more to me than i can say. thanks for being there.

  • @colinmartin2921
    @colinmartin2921 Před rokem +1

    A great drummer and a humble man who has achieved great things. Check out his autobiography it is great.

  • @anorakthing8968
    @anorakthing8968 Před 8 lety +1

    I have spent most of the morning watching these! Cheers!

    • @spikewebb8783
      @spikewebb8783 Před 8 lety

      +William Luther So glad you're enjoying them - thanks for posting!

  • @melvynparkin5871
    @melvynparkin5871 Před 8 lety +8

    Real nice guy Kenny thanks for posting ..

  • @captainjay1034
    @captainjay1034 Před 8 lety +7

    saw faces and the who at the fabulous forum in LA in the 60's believe me it was a magicial time to be young

    • @spikewebb8783
      @spikewebb8783 Před 8 lety

      +Jimmy Flanagan Bet that was great - Hope you enjoyed the interview!

  • @vanshipman
    @vanshipman Před 4 lety +2

    The Faces are gonna tour with Rod?!??? When was this video filmed? It’s great stuff...I loved Kenney when he joined the WHO. I’m one of the few out there that loved the “Its Hard” album. I love the songs and think Kenney played outstanding stuff on it. One at a Time, Cooks County, and Cry If You Want especially. His drumming on The Quiet One from Face Dances was really great stuff. God bless you Kenney. 🙏

  • @TipsyPods
    @TipsyPods Před 5 lety +4

    Great interview

  • @riffdigger2133
    @riffdigger2133 Před 6 lety +6

    Love your series of videos. Drummers are the Hercules of any band. Signed- a bass player.

    • @spikewebb8783
      @spikewebb8783 Před 6 lety +2

      Thanks - glad you like the videos - love the Hercules nod!

  • @stewartnicol3028
    @stewartnicol3028 Před 6 lety +2

    When Rod found Kenney, Ian and Ronnie every one of his Christmasses arrived at once! 😃

  • @1Johnwright
    @1Johnwright Před 11 lety +4

    Loving all the nostalgia.......thanks Spike 'n' Kenney

  • @helmutsecke3529
    @helmutsecke3529 Před rokem

    I met und had a lovely chat with Ian McLagan not six weeks before he left us. Lovely bloke, absolutely top nice chap.

  • @misterbracks
    @misterbracks Před 6 lety +3

    great drummer, was listening to him playing today in the car on the way home..."flying" with Rod and the faces, check it out.. great drums, great control of where the tension should be.

  • @markteel7548
    @markteel7548 Před 10 lety +5

    long live steve

  • @richardholt7824
    @richardholt7824 Před 9 lety +1

    I heard earlier The Faces are set to reform, will have to wait and see how develops. Great interview again Spike.

    • @spikewebb8783
      @spikewebb8783 Před 9 lety

      +Richard Holt Thanks Richard glad you enjoyed it - yeah let's hope they get to reform this time!

  • @MANGOKELLY1
    @MANGOKELLY1 Před 11 lety +2

    Very good interview Guys. :)

  • @lenpey
    @lenpey Před 3 lety +3

    Townsend is on record for preferring Ken to Moon, as a drummer and as a person.

  • @teterouge1472
    @teterouge1472 Před rokem

    Kenny Jones!.... Love you man

  • @Tracey..H
    @Tracey..H Před 5 lety +5

    Cry if you want! Good drumming! Two great bands!! Love both bands.

  • @notaclue822
    @notaclue822 Před 3 lety +2

    He sure looks good.

  • @puckgold4956
    @puckgold4956 Před rokem

    I have seen the Who a few times. I liked the 1982 tour with Kenney the best. We had 2nd row seats of front of Pete's amps.

  • @SpectorTippy
    @SpectorTippy Před 6 lety +1

    I love him in the video with John Lodge (Moody Blues) called: Street Cafe. He whistles in the video. He's the one holding the pink balloons.

  • @gordonthomson5599
    @gordonthomson5599 Před 4 lety +1

    Brilliant

  • @johnclark3697
    @johnclark3697 Před 7 lety +1

    I was at a gig at Bingley Hall Staffordshire I think? The Who , drummer sounded GREAT to me.

  • @Kevin-1969
    @Kevin-1969 Před 4 lety +2

    Cool guy

  • @bennyjazzful
    @bennyjazzful Před 8 lety +1

    WOW
    Wonderful interview of a fantastic musician.
    Love the interviewers wild haircut.
    From a 72yo Aussie fan.

    • @spikewebb8783
      @spikewebb8783 Před 8 lety

      +John Benn Hey thanks glad you liked it - and the haircut - I get it done for 10 quid at a place called 'Headhunters'!

  • @tungtang123
    @tungtang123 Před 3 lety +2

    Best drummer in the world. No question about it.

  • @deanstanley5799
    @deanstanley5799 Před 2 lety +1

    He once drummed with Status quo on top of the pops !

  • @tomcarl8021
    @tomcarl8021 Před rokem

    There might be a recording of Pete Townshend with the Small Faces minus Steve Marriott. Townshend said it happened and he recorded it. It was recorded in 1968 or 1969 after Steve left. It was a jam session they did. It was at that session Pete played with Kenney for the first time and realized he loved playing with him.

  • @AngusRockford
    @AngusRockford Před 5 lety +4

    God damn, I miss bands like the Faces, and the Small Faces even moreso.

  • @stellafokas12
    @stellafokas12 Před 5 lety +4

    For me, Simon Phillips style complimented The Who better. I saw him first time 30 years ago today, at the 89' Kids Are Alright Tour in Toronto, just incredible!

    • @glengamble526
      @glengamble526 Před 4 lety +3

      Stella Fokas I thought he I over played like crazy, personally. To me, Zach Starkey has been the best replacement for Moon. And this is coming forma Kenny Jones fan.

  • @TheAngeleena1
    @TheAngeleena1 Před 11 lety +3

    FAB Interview Spike :)

  • @tonym994
    @tonym994 Před 6 lety +2

    saw Led Zeppelin at Boston Garden,and there was a digital clock on the facade of the balcony .Bonham on Moby Dick! when we started looking at the clock til' the end, he played a 20 minute solo. an animal ! September 10th ,1971 if memory serves .the last night of summer vacation. in school I was almost deaf the next day.

    • @clintbahr
      @clintbahr Před 4 lety

      I was there...great gig!!!

  • @revelationsoundstudio
    @revelationsoundstudio Před 9 lety +3

    Great drummer, I enjoyed his drumming the most with The Who. Not only could he play the important part of Keith Moons fills,but he's trimming of course is much better than Keith's. Listen to his drumming on Tricky Day, it's pure magic. Love the switch between the snare and the tom.

  • @mckinleyrichard4395
    @mckinleyrichard4395 Před 3 lety +2

    Filling in for Keith Moon is like filling in for Bon Scott, not possible, but f me if he didn’t rise to the occasion.

  • @tosinkingfishercheeseburge8901

    Kenny he is a really good drummer

  • @billdowney6891
    @billdowney6891 Před 5 lety +2

    Why isn't Kenny touring with The Who right now?

  • @larrybrown7273
    @larrybrown7273 Před 3 lety +1

    Kenny One Of The Greatest Rock Drummers Period That Tribute The Who Did To Keith Moon Back In Early Those Thunderous Drums Were Kenny's

  • @tonykerr865
    @tonykerr865 Před 4 lety +2

    The small faces best band ever

  • @stevenbroadbent516
    @stevenbroadbent516 Před rokem

    Comes across as a genuine nice bloke,

  • @malcolmlyndsell5009
    @malcolmlyndsell5009 Před rokem

    Kenny was a great

  • @Augmuse
    @Augmuse Před 10 lety +1

    Kenny Jones still drumming and he still sounds good to me.I would love to see the Faces with Rod Stewart on vocals. Kenny Jones (drummer Small Faces/Faces) said in an interview it looks like they may tour with Rod Stewart on vocals in 2014. We shall see if it occurs especially as Rod no longer seems to rock out like the Faces anymore. The Small Faces with the late Steve Marriott were so good. Ogdens Nut Gone Flake still sounds good to me. I thought it would be hard to follow Steve Marriott but Rod while different meshed pretty well.

  • @revelationsoundstudio
    @revelationsoundstudio Před 9 lety +6

    I love Kennys straight forward rock drumming. I actually believe he got better as a drummer when he joined the Who. Yes no one can play like Keith who was a big part of the Who but their music got more modern and Kennys playing sounded great. You better you bet" I love the snare and tom switch between beat 2 and 4. Lot of solid playing and is just wonderful. The farewell tour of 1981 was just great as well.

    • @spikewebb8783
      @spikewebb8783 Před 9 lety

      ***** Agree yes he's a great solid player - one of my favourites!

    • @galericulus9736
      @galericulus9736 Před 8 lety

      +Keef Richards Dubious username to choose.

  • @Ned88Man
    @Ned88Man Před 3 lety

    does anyone know the name of the Kenny Jones song that he does that sounds like The Who, kind of a Who parody?

  • @FallenStarFeatures
    @FallenStarFeatures Před rokem

    Go back and listen to Ogden's Nut Gone Flake and you will hear one of the most iconic drum kits in all of rock and roll.

  • @JeepTJWheelin
    @JeepTJWheelin Před 6 lety +1

    The hotel snare drum incident with Moon is hysterical but not at all surprising. Moon was a crazy son of a gun.

    • @spikewebb8783
      @spikewebb8783 Před 6 lety +1

      Glad you enjoyed that bit - I put the hotel incident with Moon as a featured story in my follow up book (not finished yet).

    • @JeepTJWheelin
      @JeepTJWheelin Před 4 lety +1

      @@spikewebb8783 Kenny's recall and delivery on the story is superb. We all know Moon was out there and these accounts certainly validate it.

  • @grengeg7373
    @grengeg7373 Před 8 lety +16

    Kenny still looks in excellent shape. Keith moon would probably be in a wheel chair if he were alive today.

    • @ClassicTVMan1981X
      @ClassicTVMan1981X Před 5 lety +1

      And probably not be able to still do all that all-excellent thunder-drumming a la John Bonham.

    • @lptomtom
      @lptomtom Před 5 lety +3

      Keith would never have lived this long, sadly...

    • @NAHAJI133
      @NAHAJI133 Před 5 lety

      @@lptomtom I think Keith wanted to live.

    • @lptomtom
      @lptomtom Před 5 lety

      @@NAHAJI133 Wanting isn't enough when your body's a wreck

    • @helmutsecke3529
      @helmutsecke3529 Před rokem

      Or in a wheelchair...

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt Před rokem

    His biography is a great read. Its shame so much of his career focus from the media is The Who... ffs he was in the The Small Faces / The Faces!! Three truly great bands... Just watched an interview about 4 years later and Kenney has really aged....

  • @chuckselvage3157
    @chuckselvage3157 Před rokem

    He's cool as

  • @int53185
    @int53185 Před 2 lety +2

    Kenney: speak softly but carry two big sticks.

  • @congamantony
    @congamantony Před 11 lety +1

    When are you going to interviewi Rat Scabies ?

  • @johndaugherty4127
    @johndaugherty4127 Před rokem +1

    I saw you with The Who in Lexington, Ky. in 1981. Still can't hear shit.

  • @jackstevenson3652
    @jackstevenson3652 Před 7 lety +6

    Why is Kenny no longer in the Who?? They must get Him back he was a excellent drummer.

    • @ltyr2002
      @ltyr2002 Před 5 lety +3

      I disagree. The guy they have now is a better fit. Kenny Jones is great, just not for The Who.

    • @francoa.9646
      @francoa.9646 Před 2 lety

      @@ltyr2002 who is it now? Last I saw was super bowl halftime show with Ringo’s son. It was pretty bad.

  • @kellyjohns6612
    @kellyjohns6612 Před 2 lety

    The only drummer to correctly pull off a drum solo in a song that was all over every radio station for like 20 years.
    "I'm Losing You" --Faces
    Moby Dick is an acquired taste.

  • @mickcorbett6724
    @mickcorbett6724 Před rokem

    Lovely, humble man. Respect & admire him. Pleased he made a few quid. But. A substitute for Keith Moon. FO.

  • @medwar2001
    @medwar2001 Před 3 lety +2

    Pardon the apparent pun, but Who the FUCK would downvote this video?

  • @alansmyth4310
    @alansmyth4310 Před 8 lety +11

    The Small Faces are everything the Stones aint, but with much more talent.

    • @GrumblingGrognard
      @GrumblingGrognard Před 6 lety +8

      Please, maybe I am getting old but this type of putting others down to make you/yours better is pathetic. Beyond that: if you cannot tell that these two bands had ENTIRELY different approaches, style, writing and visions then you are a blind fool as well. Grow up.

    • @markmacdonald3260
      @markmacdonald3260 Před 6 lety +3

      The Small Faces are massively under appreciated. Great band. Listening to them recently and I hadn't quite realized they did so many instrumentals.

    • @wayneblanchard97
      @wayneblanchard97 Před 5 lety +2

      @@markmacdonald3260 The band were huge fans of Booker T & the MGs, whose organ-led instrumentals not only inspired their instrumental originals, but also saw then do the MGs 'Plum Nellie'. If you listen to their 'You Need Loving', their version of a Willie Dixon tune made popular and then - at least the vocal and the ending - serving as inspiration for Led Zep's 'Whole Lotta Love', you will hear the lads doing an MGs 'Green Onions'-style back on that too.

    • @1Ascanius
      @1Ascanius Před 5 lety

      Alan Smyth 100% too bad Marriott turned into an A hole if he would have stuck around they would have rewritten what came out in that era. Peace

    • @NAHAJI133
      @NAHAJI133 Před 5 lety

      @@1Ascanius I would highly suggest you read the book All Too Beautiful.

  • @xpat73
    @xpat73 Před 10 lety +3

    First lesson of good interview technique. ask your question and then shut up. He keeps interrupting him......annoying.

  • @sarasarah1810
    @sarasarah1810 Před 6 lety +1

    Luv how mad bad and dangerous for forgets to put the small faces in the description........lol...silly git..but they did spell Kenney right.👍

  • @grahamschnell670
    @grahamschnell670 Před 9 měsíci

    The small facers were the best band ever…

  • @melvynobrien6193
    @melvynobrien6193 Před 4 lety +4

    I was at the first gig the Small Faces did with Rod Stewart at Varsity Arena, Trono. They didn't need Rod Stewart; they were great, he was shite. And he's gotten worse as time goes by. Saw him on the Jeff Beck Truth tour, too, before the Faces, and he was passable. Beck peaked musically on that tour, as far as I'm concerned; great guitarist, should have kept playing rock.

  • @JoeyFielding1
    @JoeyFielding1 Před 7 lety +1

    he looks like gene wilder aka willy wonka

  • @MrSteeDoo
    @MrSteeDoo Před 3 lety +1

    british teeth!

  • @crixxxxxxxxx
    @crixxxxxxxxx Před 7 lety

    What the hell is going on with that guy's hair?

    • @diskochimp
      @diskochimp Před 7 lety +2

      Brexit!

    • @paulm4433
      @paulm4433 Před 6 lety +1

      Still trying to look like rock & roll rebellious!

    • @Ystadcop
      @Ystadcop Před 4 lety +1

      It took him ages to make it look such a casual mess.

  • @thesadderdaysaints
    @thesadderdaysaints Před 10 lety

    Zzzzzzz

  • @iggyflop3777
    @iggyflop3777 Před 3 lety

    bad drumer

    • @kyzor-sosay6087
      @kyzor-sosay6087 Před 3 lety +3

      So,you name all the successful bands that you have played with,as I’m sure you’re a fantastic drummer.I’ll wait.

  • @sapphireblue8930
    @sapphireblue8930 Před 6 lety +3

    The interviewer looks horrific