What Can Go Wrong in BJJ
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VIDEO DESCRIPTION
In this video, Rick Ellis discusses things that can go wrong in BJJ, like skin infections and injuries.
I am a 51 year old purple belt who has been training for about 5 years. In that time I have suffered the following injuries from training: a seriously sprained ankle, a torn bicep, numerous black eyes, sprained fingers, a case of impetigo, and right now I have been out of training for a couple weeks because my shoulder has been extremely sore. It is a contact sport and stuff happens. I have been injured and seen other people injured by moves that you would not expect an injury to happen. People hurt themselves stepping off a curb the wrong way so grappling even at a moderate level increases your chances of injury.
Advice for new people, don't train on nasty mats.
Nothing to do with mats. It has to do with rolling with people who have infections.
Some places don't actually clean the mats well unfortunately
53 year old blue belt. I can no longer roll at a high intensity. I have had to slow my pace which is humbling. I am learning to be much more technical and not wasting energy. Less injuries and soreness.
Thanks Rick-Great advice! As a 57YO 1S purple belt, it’s great to hear you validate the need to be selective with training partner selection. I love all of my brothers & sisters in our dojo, but my goal is always to be able to train the next day, and that means choosing partners who have similar skills, body awareness & control, etc. Cheers, Rick!! 🥋👍🏼
A buddy of mine said the most dangerous time for a new airplane pilot is between 200 and 300 hours of flight time. Before 200, you're really careful. After 300, you're careful again. In the danger period from 200 to 300 hours, you think you know more than you do and you tend to be reckless.
I think there's a similar danger period in BJJ. Probably in the late stages of white belt or early blue belt.
I drive for living and this is exactly what is happening to me right now after 2 years. I've had more close calls than ever and I thought it's so weird because I should be better than I used to be but seems like I'm worse. But I noticed I've been too reckless and I feel like nothing can go wrong because "I'm so good at this".
That makes sense. I would say from my experience that the middle stages of white belt tend to be when people are the most dangerous. They know just enough moves to feel confident, but not enough to know how to apply those techniques in a safe manner.
This is very true.
This!! I didn’t have any injuries in BJJ until I hit my 3rd-4th stripes on my white belt
Glad you are okay and hope you're having a wonderful trip.
This is even a risk on clean mats. I got a small cut on my foot and ended up in the emergency room and then the hospital for 3 days. Mats were well maintained but I didn't take care of my cut immediately with antiseptic and wrap and paid the price. Don't be "tough" ... take care of wounds immediately.
I'm 53 and I popped a rib on my 1st day, gotten MRSA and currently nursing a torn LCL in my 6 months of training. I've also nearly broke my nose and ruptured a blood vessel in my eye. It changes nothing. I love this sport and cant wait to get back on the mats.
48 here. Also popped a rib first day, first 60 sec of my first roll. Don't even know how. Rolled the rest of class thinking I'd just strained something. 4-5 weeks ago. Just about ready to try again. Good luck!
Glad to hear you're doing better! Thank you for sharing this :)
Thanks for all the different experience you share.
Great advice - 56 year old 3 stripe purple belt in the martial arts since 1987 - between the arts and competitive soccer, tons of torn everything 😂 - when it feels ready, give it 2 more weeks (if it was bad) - I wear short sleeve rash guards under the Gi jacket and long sleeve rash guards and Gi pants for No Gi - keeps everything covered except hands, feet, and face as you said - my routine after Jiu Jitsu is to wash all my exposed parts and a few others with Tea Tree Body Wash and my hair with Head and Shoulders shampoo + conditioner - they kill the fungus/bacteria…I do it in an Epsom salt bath for the old muscles and joints - it works! Get better soon ❤️🩹
Good info Rick and I'm so glad you're ok. ❤❤❤
Great video! 🤙🏻
Glad you're on the mend. About 20 years ago, I was hospitalized for four days because of cellulitis. Not fun!
Glad you are getting better Rick.
Anyone have a good idea on a respectful way to suggest to your gym that the mats be mopped daily with a disinfectant cleaner?
Great content. 6 week old white belt 49yo. Enjoy your cruise.
I feel your pain. I developed cellulitis after a shin to shin contact, and it spread really quickly to the knee. Couldn't stand on the leg. The antibiotics work wonders, but not on the digestive system.
Hey art of skill. You may wish to get yourself an ozone machine. Sauna, body bag, or leg bag can be used topically. Personally, I use other stuff as well, but it is a more complicated explanation. Obviously, docs and antibiotics have a place, but sometimes people who rely solely on that end up with amputations. Some of those bugs are antibiotic resistant. No sweat if you aren't into self care. It's your body.
Went through the same thing a few weeks ago. MRSA breakout on my left calf, right knee, right rib, right wrist. Swollen, pus filled boils, extremely painful. Hospital for a week on IV meds + oral antibiotics + antibiotic ointment. 10/10 would not recommend
This happened to me. Been training for 8 months and got cut on my knee in NoGi. I thought I made it in time to shower, but it wasn’t so. This was on a Friday and that same day I went camping for an entire week.
I noticed bumps on my leg and thought they were bug bites, but then I ended up having staph infection and when I came home the following week I was able to get antibiotics to deal with it in time. It was my first time getting it, and now I’m super paranoid about making sure I’m covered in NoGi.
I prefer Lamisil over Lotrimin for skin fungus because it's far more convenient. It's only once a day for one week as opposed to twice daily for two weeks. This is only for ringworm. For athlete's foot, it's still twice daily, but still also only for a week.
Also, if you have staph in a skin infection, you have cellulitis with staphylococcus aureus as the primary culprit. You might have had a different bug, but you present it as though they are mutually exclusive
Great advice from an experienced practitioner. Hope you patch up real soon.
On that ammonia smell, it's not only confined to people that don't wash their gi. Definitely, that's a major reason, but I always immediately wash my gi every single class as soon as I get home from training and I had to deal with it on my gi.
I originally started with a super lightweight gi that looked much more like a karate gi and it was totally fine, BUT when I got a really nice expensive one is when I started noticing it on me. Some people air hang or sun dry and I don't know much about that because I buy mine 1 size bigger and use a machine dryer. I was getting my gi dry and cleaned it with oxyclean, detergent, borax and fabric softener, but I kept smelling a slight ammonia about halfway through training that got progressively worse as I sweated more. I eventually realized it was coming from my really thick collar of the new gi. It felt dry but I assume the collar was still holding scanty moisture deep within, so I just extended the dry time by 30% and the problem hasn't occurred again. Immediately fixed it and now I'm no longer the stinky person lol BTW, I did ask training partners if they could smell it and I don't know if they were just being nice or if I have a bionic nose, but they all said they couldn't. Glad I figured that out because those nice gis are pricey
I haven't had a fungus yet because I help clean mats after every class, I wash my clothes as soon as I get home and then I jump into the hot tub that's chlorinated. Worked for years in judo and it's working for BJJ just the same. I just needed extra dry time. I guess I was afraid it'd shrink 2 sizes and would no longer fit but it's good so far
I wash religiously with Defense Soap, which has tea tree, eucalyptus, and peppermint oils, among the other "make a bar of soap" ingredients. And our gym mops after every single class with Defense / Mueller Whizzer disinfectant. Knock on wood, but I haven't had any skin issues so far. And at almost 44 blue belt, I definitely am selective about who I roll with. No shame in that. Some of the young fresh white belts haven't learned yet the "slow it down, we're not trying to win practice, we're all on the same team." I want to be able to train tomorrow too.
I have put vasaline on the top of my foot to reduce cuts as a preventative measure.
ive trained a few times with just shorts on for no gi and always regretted it. always where spats under my shorts now. i used to always wear short sleeve rash guard for no gi. no rash guard under my gi most recently but i started wearing a long sleeve polyester shirt now from augusta active and they seem to wick sweat away much better than the rash guards ive worn before.
Let me know if you end up in Puerto Vallarta ! Happy to show you around
I had a gi burn on my neck and it got infected and folliculitis developed. Needed a course of antibiotics and antibiotic ointment.
54y/o 4 stripe blue belt...on hiatus. Torn labrum, detached bicep. I get it.
Roll. Recover. Repeat.
Man I had cellulitis on my knee while I was in Marine boot camp. It grew to the size of a softball, had to drain it and cut out a large chunk of something in my knee. Was not a good time. EXTREMELY lucky they didn't hold me back.
Respect to you old Guys! I'm only 39 and struggle to do daily bjj. I've been training in Nicaragua for a year and I totally area, Tea-Tree oil as a preventative measure is awesome. I also use Peroxide for wounds, scratches and spraying down my hands and feet after each class. I'm just getting over a long bought of ringworm around my right heel. **Keep it clean folks** I can't wait to get back on the matts and burn off this belly I'm building, once the foot is healed up.
Oh Yah, rib injury hindered me for 3 months. Clean technique, I just rolled onto the guys foot and my rib popped.
Im happy to know you are well again friend. My assessment- you shouldn’t have left Costa Rica 😍😅🤩 Pura Vida and OSS
I was rolling no gi yesterday and there was a dude in shorts with an obvious staph infection rolling with us. not good. not good at all.
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Cauliflower Ear!!!
if you get really tired, and you keep training you will get sick. Skin infection of influenza ... something will get you.
When you train really hard over extended periods of time your immune system crashes too. Keep that in mind.
Still baffles me that people leave the gym without showering.. 🤢
Never wash your belt.. you'll lose your powers. Duh..
In my opinion, BJJ is just not worth the trouble.
Yes you do decide who you roll against. That said if you cannot roll with someone 50-100 lbs heavier than you, you should not get a blue belt IMO.
Enjoy your injuries
I get what your saying but injury is not worth a promotion. Especially if you get injured and cannot work. I use my hands and stand all day if I cannot stand or use my hands I am screwed. No work, no money. Most bjj practitioners are hobbyists not competitors.
@@logan5797 I agree. But the requirements as a blue belt should be that you can defend yourself against an untrained person 50 pounds bigger. (How its always been in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu) If you can't do that or don't want that its fine. Just don't bitch about never getting a promotion.
Also if you can't at least roll with people bigger than you why are you even training? Whats wrong with your Jiu-Jitsu that a size advantage scares you? Also if you are so afraid of getting hurt why the hell would you even do BJJ? Take up golf.
@@dragonballjiujitsuHow old are you? You have a dense & myopic look on Bjj.
@@DreX-8810 47 and I've been training BJJ for 23 years and running a school for 10. How about you?