Which Fishing Line? Braid vs Fluorocarbon vs Mono
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- When should you use Braid? When is fluorocarbon better than mono? What is each line for? Matt answers these questions and many more in today's in-depth look at fishing line. Even if you've made your mind up about your favorite line this video is worth a watch, some new technical lines have hit the market that are bridging the gap between line types.
This video goes in depth about all 3 fishing lines. We ignored copolymer for the sake of time as its really just an "in between" between fluorocarbon and monofilament. All of these different styles of line are important. Each one has a place and will increase your success while fishing. But use the wrong line for the wrong purpose and it will give you endless problems. This year we have the added bonus of "shock leader" which is essentially fluorocarbon that stretches like monofilament.
Because this video ran so long we did not include the portion on tying our favorite knots. We'll release a bonus video tomorrow that shows exactly how to tie a Palomar, double Palomar, San Diego Jam, Double San Diego Jam, and a Blood Knot.
Below is a break down of the different lines and types we use on a regular basis.
Braid...
-Power Pro Maxcuatro: bit.ly/2clBRiQ
-Power Pro Moss Green: bit.ly/2aFg46b
-Sufix 832: bit.ly/2ae93Ji
Monofilament...
-Maxima Ultragreen: bit.ly/2ae97J9
Fluorocarbon...
Sunline Assassin: bit.ly/2h4LNjm
Sunline Sniper: bit.ly/2p7fxju
Shock Leader...
FC-100 System Leader Fluorocarbon: bit.ly/2O4UElB
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I can go to Tactical Bassin and just play through every video. So informative and thorough. Amazing tips for Bass fishing. Also amazing underwater footage. By far my favorite and the best CZcams channel.
What did they teach you today?
Lol I bet your fun to work with... Tactical Bassin had some good informative videos. But for the most part these vids are roundabout, confusing and over specified topics. Pretty much click bait and opinions. Wasted so much time on this channel.
@@Euronymph If this knowledge about a specific topic confuses you, you are obviously an ill informed simpleton. For people who care about the sport in detail and the technical specifications this is a spot on explanation for intermediate anglers. Simply enough, if this is confusing, go back to your Zebco 33. Good day.
absolutely! I love how they get into major detail on anything they explain. they are the best on CZcams!
Meh...most of the videos are pushing products vs. giving real advice.
million dollar information you broke down so much in detail including the lines to leaders and on what reel setup, as a beginner this is gold. Thank you
Best video on line I've ever saw and I'm 71 years old!! I've watched it twice all ready.
Why? He gave you one man's opinion on line. You should take multiple opinions on anything before you make a decision
Matt
My son and I FISH AS MUCH AS WE CAN ! We love and appreciate all the information. Some of your advise, we have found, is used among the pros. Line choice and even knots. I also and the money supply, appreciate the way you broke down that you dont need everything you can go to a standard and grow from there.
Braid to mono here and with a blood knot because of you guys! Fishing in a kayak exclusively, I love it for exactly like you said, it’s simple! And I’ve never had issues with that knot slipping on me.
Matt these videos are so much better than the stupid vlog challenge videos other fishing channels do, thank you to you and Tim for putting out quality informational videos
scaborough817 Better for info for sure
I like both for different reasons
They both have their place. Once you master this stuff, you can move up to challenges.
Yeah but they actually Don't take 5 hours long 🤔
The vlog challenge videos are just really good ads
Welp it's official, I've been a Tactical Bassin subscriber long enough for Matt to circle back to a fishing line video. Love the videos guys!
I agree. I think I’ve learned more in 2 months of watching this these guys than I have in a lifetime of picking up tips and tricks from other fisherman.
The only channel whose videos are ALWAYS straight to the point - no garbage 2 minute intro with bad music, no useless distracting small talk meant to lengthen a video for ads. I don't skip around in this channel's longer videos like I do with others because they're nothing but information from beginning to end. These guys teach in a simple yet expert manner that both beginners and seasoned fisherman can follow. Liked and subscribed.
Thank you for the kind words. Glad to have you 👊🏻
Hey Matt, I have seen your other vids on line too and I will tell you that your information has really built the bridge between kinda understanding and doing something with confidence. Line can be so confusing. I basically followed your advice on the few combos I have with braid to mono and will continue to learn as I build and expand my ability to fish different ways and conditions. Thanks again for giving back to the community years of proven experience. I am going to hire you someday just to be able to ask you 10,000 questions:)
Never fails...you guys sometimes cover the same subject matter, but I still learned something new! You guys have set the bar high for bassing information. Why didn't we have info like this when we were kids?
Hi guys. I am a South African bass crazy angler in a province (KZN) where we do mainly bank fishing with a LOT of grass and structure. We mainly fish private farm dams with some really good results as these dams are not fished often. The reason for my comment today is to thank you for really excellent advice on different techniques and lures and how to fish more successfully. You guys are by far the best channel i subscribe to even though there are other good ones. Best wishes. Burt van Schalkwyk.
I didn’t know what i was more excited for when i woke up this morning: a new TacticalBassin video or the launch of all those new products at Icast 2019!!
New Tactical video for me, iCast was secondary
Braid to leader for two years now and I'm convinced, it's just so much better. I'm either straight braid or braid to leader. Matt, Tim, seriously, you've helped change and advance my fishing so much and the proof's been in the pudding.
What is braid to leader
@@alxzach8653 if you’re actually serious then I’d suggest watching more of tacticals vids or even searching in CZcams: “fishing line tactical bassin” and you’ll get an idea. I’m not the one you want helping you 😂
Love the channel ! I especially love all the tackle warehouse links. That's a lot of work but adds a ton of value, and just know it's massively appreciated !
Your videos always help me. But this came at a perfect time. Just decided to try braid as a mainline. So excited this video came out when it did
Great video!! I haven't been fishing in over 25 years!! It's a whole new ballgame!
Another bonus video! Sweet cant wait for tomorrow morning! Thanks guys
Love watching you guys and all the knowledge you share! Thank you so much!!!
I've been watching Matt Allen videos and tactical bassin in general forever, and just noticed I wasn't subscribed!! Glad I fixed that. Very educational and idc how much you know. There's always more to learn.
so glad you guys did this video! I have been looking for better braid line. Thank you
Matt. You hit the nail on the head with this vlog. I have been so confused on this subject of lines and i finaly got it. Dude epic vlog again Thank you. You guys are friggin awesome.
Don't forget that he gave you his opinion on line. He didnt break down any scientific data.
Awesome video guys! Can’t wait til tomorrow.
Thank you Matt for this info. I re-did all my bait casters.
Awesome vid Matt! Great details. Always wondered what changes you made when it came to line size and crankin... keep it up buddy
Just watched and realized that I have all these tactics already in effect. Good bless TB!
I won't buy any other braid than Maxcurato, super thin, and super strong. I started using Sufix Nanobraid this year on my spinning set ups with great results, it frays a little bit but I like the visibility and bass/trout/pike in my waters don't seem to mind it. I think it's worth a shot.
what a wealth of valuable information man!!! Thank you very much. You´ve made an amazingly useful thorough colllege lecture. Thank you very again.
Great education channel for people who just want to increase their odds in their favor. For many educated fisherman this kind of information sharing is taboo. I will say, by far, this is my go to channel for info. Thanks you and keep up the good work.
I switched from Suffix 832 to Maxcuatro about a month ago and I can't believe how much better overall it is. I'm literally stunned at it's performance. I particularly like how it sits on the spool and comes off so smoothly. I'm still getting used to mono leaders but overall, it's been a HUGE uplift for me. -mM
Braid on every reel I own, floro leader, FG connection when I’m setting up at home, on the water uni to uni. I do keep mono for top water leader, but I don’t fish top water often. Everyone and their mother use whopper poppers and frogs around me.
A comment about mono and its annoying stretch and memory properties......in the early 70s fishing weedless Johnson spoons and O’neil Weed Wings on Lake Okeechobee was a good way to catch a heavyweight bass. We (Palm Beach area) were Ande “jet” (jet black mono) users which as I recall was about the strongest mono available but its memory issues were particularly bothersome. One clever way to minimize this inconvenience was to “pre-stretch” your line the night before you went fishing. We tied the line to a strong item, walked off about a cast and a half, and pulled the line until it seemed to not have any stretch left......held it there for a predetermined count (10??……speaking of memory!), then wiped the line down, reeled it back on nice and smoothly and completed getting everything ready. Then we all saw that BASS pros taught us that you needed to have at least 10-15 rods with you so the line stretching practice became overbearing and was dropped! Seriously, the pre-stretch did restore more favorable properties, but only for a short time.
Matt and Tim, you guys are great! Thanks for all the tips. I just started bass fishing in MD and I really appreciate all your insights and advice
Man, ive been having so much trouble finding bass fishing spots in maryland, what are youre placed you go to?
I was just thinking “I wonder if TacticalBassin has done a video on lines?” And look what popped up! Thanks, Matt! Very helpful.
If you follow them for long enough, you'll see many things are repeated. So if you ever have the question "I wonder if they have a video on...." the answer is most likely yes. Finding it could be tricky though.
Yahoo I needed a refresher on fishing line and I can wait for part 2 👊👊👍🍻🍺
Awesome video as always this cleared a few things up for me tight lines from Arkansas
Great video! Thanks for all the info, much appreciated!
Great video Matt. Thanks for making these.
Even when I think know the basics TacticalBassin still shows me there is more to learn.
Been watching your videos since the first one I saw ... you were in a garage on your boat... talking swimbaits... and ospreys were the main ones you were talking about... you know your shit and have taught me a lot ... thanks Matt..keep it up ... I can never learn enough for bass fishing ...!!
Bro every tip video I watch comestibles from you. You such a good job going into detail about the line. Great vid. I love the channel.
Great video as always guys
Great information as always!
The only CZcams videos worth watching if you are a avid bass fisherman. I hope you guys do a rod and reel Arsenal this year. That would be killer to see specially with all the new goodies since the last one.
Great topic! You guys are the best!
Love the videos guys. I definitely enjoy waking up on Monday, Wednesday, Friday to nothing but knowledge being dropped on us. One question for you guys with storing the line on your boat. Does heat effect the longevity durability of the line. Thank you guys hope to hear from you!!
Very Informative. I've gotten better and enjoyed fishing alot more (more fish hooked) from watching your videos
Thx for the r&d finding fc100...Exactly what I was looking for. I fish for big ass salt water bass called snook. I'm not sure what "braid to mono" knot you guys use but the fg knot is flawless... I have bent 7/0 mustad jigheads straight with this knot still intact. It has never failed.
I just bought some hi vis j braid and pline floroclear for my finesse set up
Considering the fish can sense your line through their lateral line no matter what fishing line you use I don't care what color it is I want the strongest toughest stuff I can get and still be able to cast so I go with monofilament all the way no leaders.
Please do a vid on your opinions on Googan baits. You guys are definitely the most informative on CZcams. Keep up the great work.
Great video, thanks for the knowledge on line!!!! 👍
Man I really want to thank you for that video you're awesome.
I've torn 3 of my reels apart trying to figure out why my drag is failing when pitching large swimbaits on braid. Thanks for the electrical tape tip, Matt. You may have just saved my sanity!
🔥 information like always
Have you guys thought about doing an updated line episode? The most recent I see is 4 and 3 years ago.
Thanks for what you do!
Matt, I have found that electrical tape can also pull loose under certain environmental conditions when using braid direct to spool. I have found a trick that will lock that braid down to the spool every single time...wrap alternating half hitches of braid around the spool. To do this, remove the spool from the reel, tie the braid with your california lock knot and wrap alternating half hitches around each end of the spool. It effectively creates a Chinese finger around the spool where the braid locks into itself. The number of half hitches will depend on line weight. 2-3 wraps then test the line. It locks down so tight that you have to be careful when using some of the thinner finesse spools that you can actually warp the spool because of how much pressure you can put on the line to spool connection. Hope this helps anyone looking for that 100% line to spool connection.
Matt thanks for the 2019 refresher on lines & knots...
I use mono for everything. Going to try to change that, but it’s cheap and works well for me.
Been using mono since the late 80s. For a while I had a reel spooled up with dark green spider wire right after it came out, I hundreds of casts on dozens of lakes and rivers I never caught a single fish. Switched back to mono and I land big trout every time I go out!
As always, thorough, informative and concise. THanks!
It would be of interest for which types of line you do not use and why. Copolymer, Fluro-coated, Nanofil, etc. Have you ever tried a John Collins/Royal Polaris/Alberto knot as a Fluro to braid knot. I use it because it is small, passes through guides better than a blood knot and is very easy to tie (for me). Have a great week.
yo this video is absolutely awesome.
Love all these you guys Rock 🥇
I've had a real difficult time breaking 12# Assasin when hung up, it's very resilient line. I definitely like the Max Cuatro braid but the new V2 line has become my new favorite.
I learned my lesson on braid slipping the hardway that resulted in a giant smallmouth getting away. Honestly had no clue that it was the line that was slipping, instead, I thought it broke the drag.
Really awesome video 👌
When I was a little kid I used a lot of Maxima Monofilament too. Was always on those white plastic spools with the blue lettering
Maximum line is one of my favorite too been using it since I was a kid
I know you guys are pretty big braid fans. Personally, I have finally figured out my line preferences. I use 65lb braid on the rod I throw frogs and jigs in cover with, 15-17lb fluorocarbon for trigs, jigs in clear water, spinnerbaits, etc. 10-12 lb fluorocarbon for cranks, 10-12lb mono for poppers and braid on spinning reels -- thanks for the tip for 12lb Sunline SX1 by the way, that stuff is very abrasion resistant for a thin braid and has worked out great for me. For fluorocarbon I've been using Berkley Trilene fluorocarbon because I buy it buy one get one in the spring and the knot strength (on a uni knot anyway) is as good as mono.
Great video Matt. I switched to braid / mono 2.5 years ago after I started following you guys and I do not regret it one bit. Curious to know if you have tried Viscous no fade braid yet?
I'm a big fan of suffix too, and yes it fades crazy fast
Music to ones ears with info 👍🏽🙌🏾
Love your video's buddy. I like to use 15lb braid but I do use mono and fluoro aswell... it just depends
Just getting into bass fishing serioysly but I've used ultragreen and assasin/sniper and power pro as my steelhead/salmon and smallmouth lines for years in the great lakes now. All great products
Great video. The best I've seen clearly exlpaining the different lines and their differences.
If you could, I'd love to see you go over what pound leader for what pound main line, if it makes a difference in what lure you are fishing or fish you are going after.
Or not, lol. That must have been a tough question. Maybe someone else knows how to pair up leader test to line test.
when I spool braid I use a rag and double over the line with the rag and put the entire spool under extreme tension and there is no spool live slip, it also helps prevent any backlash past your max casting distance because its so tightly spooled.
I always use 65lb daiwa j-braid on everything for everything. I know that it would work best to have multiple rods and reels for multiple setups but I only have 2. One concept z on a all star rod with a swivel for all lures. And a origin TX for worm fishing and salt on some random rod from and old Abu combo.
Suggestion: Get a wide spool of Gaffer's Tape for the reel backing on braid. It's more expensive than electrical tape, but doesn't break down and get everything sticky on your spool. It tears very easy without needing scissors. Getting a wide spool allows you to easily tear off the exact width for any size reel spool. An added bonus is that you can also use it to store reels that are already spooled with line. I just tape down the end of the line on the spool with a small piece. The next time you use that reel, you can just pull off that piece of tape and stick it on the rod just below the hook keeper. It can be reused to store the spool multiple times as it was designed to be put down and taken up while retaining it's adhesive properties, but not leave behind residue on the rod or the line.
I tie braid straight to the spool but not with a single knot. After the arbor knot, I tie a series of half hitches around the spool and cinch it down on itself. The result is that the knots lock everything down and it won’t slip. You have to pull the spool to tie it up but that’s not a big deal.
I use poly for a lot of treble hook applications because you get the best of both worlds. I do use traditional mono on a few set ups as well (certain jerk baits and for open-water froggin'). Braid is a real niche line for me, but does get used. I rarely use a leader except on spinning set ups. I'm not opposed to them, but if I have enough reels to make a dedicated setup, why not?
Great job thanks for the info ...
have been watching your videos and learn a lot about fishing, your videos are in depth and very informative. My question about leader lines is this, is the leader a higher test or a lower test than the main line? It never comes up in any of the videos. Thank you yoe taking my question.
Nice video, I like to use yozuri hybrid and gliss and seagaur Invisx lines.
Great info
You guys should really look into Sunline Aseagi braid amazing stuff
P Line flouroclear is also a really great leader line
Good morning!
Yo Allen, 20 ib. fluorocarbon is very good for bank fishing. And yes, I believed you won't get the best casting & performance with heavier line, but as I been testing over and over with 20 pound line from the shore, I can fish extremely shallow dirty water and thick cover without too many problem. If my crankbait get stuck, I can pull to bend those treble out and get my lure back, catch alot of big bass not to worry my line breaking off, even if I tied a bad knot with the right amount of drag pressure. I'm an more experienced fisherman on bank than on the boat & I just hoping you guys are not overlooking the benefit of heavier mainline on an conventional baitcasting reel.
Awesome video I've never used Power Pro but I'm going to redo all my reels this weekend with it thanks brother
It is always good to blindly buy whatever a salesman tells you to buy
@@Ajdizzle4rizzle I've been looking for good line and Matt is pretty smart guy everything that I've done did he said his work 100% so I have no doubt don't hurt to try something new man get your head out of your ass
Haven't tried sunline assassin, but I do have sunline FC crankbait line, in 14lb and that stuff is STRONG!! was useing a jerkbait, caught a Channel Catfish right on the lip, don't know if he bit it or accidentally hooked him , but that line did not break and highly recommend real resistant 👍
I’m thinking I might pick up some of that Floro for super clear waters though. Western Wa has a lot of lakes with 20+ ft vis and finicky smallies
After losing several hudds and an a s-waiver 200 i finally got away from flouro as a leader or primary line for swimbait fishing, like Matt had been saying all along.
I am really intrigued what that electrical tape for braid, I hope you can do a video for that.
Would you recommend the system leader for flipping grass or would you go with something with less stretch?
I used to use 832 a lot, and it really does fade, but darn is it reliable. I've snapped Power Pro more times than I remember, gave it up. I pretty much use Tuffline and 832, and that cheap J-braid is okay for smaller spinning gear.
If you use braid to leader for small crank bait. What size braid?
What do you use when you're punching, straight braid or braid w/fluoro leader (15#+, especially in clear water)?
Hi Matt thanks for the info its very helpful. But you mentioned mono leader material and went right in to how you spooled with the Ultragreen as a main line. Do you use that for leader material as well? or is there a separate mono leader line that yall use?
You guys rock !!! I've caught bigger and more Bass from your tips. But I do have a question... does the color of my braid matter?
I've use the Alberto knot with braid and uni knot when I'm going from mono to fluoro or vista versa.
What size leader do you use with the Shock Leader to the 15lb Power Pro for a crank or for some finesse style baits?
Love the videos but it makes me think of how I used to just put a worm on a hook and bobber and just wait. Good ol days.