TriCal | Measuring position repeatability of an industrial robot arm (This is not CGI)

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  • čas přidán 25. 11. 2019
  • Repeatability is one of the most important characteristics of industrial robots, it determines the ability of the robot to achieve the same targets over and over. According to the ISO 9283, repeatability of the industrial robot must be measured at five specific points in the largest cube inscribed in the robot’s workspace. In practice, however, performing an ISO test is not always easy and fast as it requires non-restricted access to the workspace, as well as advanced measuring equipment, such as a laser tracker. As an alternative, we have developed the TriCal - an affordable and precise 3D measuring instrument that makes it easy to evaluate the position repeatability of the robot in the target workspace. In this video, we demonstrate the repeatability performance evaluation of the KUKA KR6 R700 sixx industrial robot arm.
    The TriCal has been developed and manufactured at École de technologie supérieure under the supervision of Professor Ilian Bonev.
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Komentáře • 113

  • @Wildminecraftwolf
    @Wildminecraftwolf Před 3 lety +384

    The things i will watch in order to not do actual work

  • @legorockfan9
    @legorockfan9 Před 3 lety +92

    This music has an ominous "they are coming and there is nothing you can do about it" vibe.

  • @dogzer
    @dogzer Před 3 lety +11

    1990: "This is real CGI, it's not animatronics"
    2021: "This is NOT cgi, it's an actual robot"

  • @rickharriss
    @rickharriss Před 3 lety +137

    When I worked in the CAD CAM industry our plotter had a repeatability error of no more than 3 microns over a movement of about 1/2 a meter. Using lead screws as well.
    Interesting video.

    • @adisharr
      @adisharr Před 3 lety +5

      Probably using secondary feedback from a glass scale?

    • @slurricrasher9923
      @slurricrasher9923 Před 3 lety

      wut

    • @Chaos------
      @Chaos------ Před 3 lety +1

      I can assure you these machines dont utilize leadscrews.

    • @peter.s.3207
      @peter.s.3207 Před 3 lety +7

      Waaaaaaay more degrees of freedom on this machine

    • @spamspasm8183
      @spamspasm8183 Před 3 lety +4

      You are comparing a cartesian robot with an articulated robot. Different levels of complexity considering just DoF alone. Apples and oranges.

  • @etle113
    @etle113 Před 3 lety +97

    Nice! Next step: repeatability under variable load... Just cause nobody use that kind of robot to move air around 😂

    • @Hallettjs7957
      @Hallettjs7957 Před 3 lety +8

      Or repeatability under load after 1 million moves.

    • @zeitgeist909
      @zeitgeist909 Před 3 lety +9

      I think you and the rest of the replied commenters misunderstand what they demo's here. They are demoing the triCal system, not the robot? That's the 3 micrometres in a jig thing with the changing numbers.

    • @Hallettjs7957
      @Hallettjs7957 Před 3 lety +1

      @@zeitgeist909 Your an engineer? Just guessing based off your statements. Your playing a glass half full/half empty game. You weather your demo'ing a "fixture" that checks calibration of true positioning, or demo'ing a robot that can place an object in true oreintation with repittion, it does not matter. You still need both and are reliant on eachother. You dont design a fixture for the purpose or not checking the reliability robot.
      I myself come from the feild of fixing things like this robot, or the ones that have to use gauges in real life applications on real world robotics.

    • @spamspasm8183
      @spamspasm8183 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Hallettjs7957 It's more of a CZcams snippet than a demo. I would assume that they probably published a lengthy paper on this since it was designed and made at a university affiliated engineering lab.

    • @joshmdmd
      @joshmdmd Před 3 lety +1

      He's not playing any game. He correctly identified a comment which is off topic and flagged it as such.
      They are not both reliant on each other, they are independent of one another. This is to test any industrial robot.
      Also as an engineer, repeatability under load after 1 million loads will only be due to the wear on components, not an additive error. These robots have direct feedback, so any wear in mechanical parts does not affect the output more than one step of each of the output motors, or more than the lead/lag of the output and how it is programmed.

  • @dtiydr
    @dtiydr Před 3 lety +73

    The minute friction on the plates will heat them up making them show another value after small time due to the 0.001 resolution.

    • @OleksandrStepanenko
      @OleksandrStepanenko  Před 3 lety +54

      For this reason, we do a warm-up before taking measurements 😉 The robot, by the way, must also be warmed up.

    • @dtiydr
      @dtiydr Před 3 lety +8

      @@OleksandrStepanenko Expected so, I seem to see a repeatability of around 0.006 -0.007 mm or so, not bad. Absolutely within 0.01 mm that is within the range of normal for these.

    • @ablasttv
      @ablasttv Před 3 lety +9

      @@OleksandrStepanenko wait this is CGI right? The colors and reflections look too perfect to be real... (Edit: well im dumb i missed the full title lol)

    • @minimushrom
      @minimushrom Před 3 lety +17

      @@ablasttv aka let's show the internet I can't read a full title

  • @EmergencyTemporalShift
    @EmergencyTemporalShift Před 3 lety +10

    If you’re still watching comments, I recommend taking the measurements and using video editing to make them all clearly visible, large, and upright.

    • @StormBurnX
      @StormBurnX Před 3 lety

      I think that would have been useful if they were demoing this robot's specs, but they are demoing the usefulness of the tool

  • @user-bn5xg6wu1p
    @user-bn5xg6wu1p Před 3 lety +54

    fact that you need to clarify "this is not cgi". we live in a future

  • @h4u5er
    @h4u5er Před rokem +1

    "This is some precise shit. It's so precise that bacteria living on it were like, "THIS IS SOME PRECISE SHIT." CS Ghost Animation

  • @BLACK-hl4ic
    @BLACK-hl4ic Před 3 lety +10

    KUKA IS AMAZING

  • @Renevatia
    @Renevatia Před 3 lety +3

    There seems to be a bit of a drift but that is still incredible precision. I imagine you could use a similar setup for a calibration feedback loop for prolonged operation even under load.

  • @MrSaemichlaus
    @MrSaemichlaus Před 3 lety +16

    Oh, there are plates on the micrometers. I was gonna say you'll have a tough time compensating for any offset.

  • @ArunUdai
    @ArunUdai Před 4 lety +20

    Video is impressive. How does TriCal evaluation of Repeatability compare with ISO 9283 standard?

    • @colin7225
      @colin7225 Před 3 lety

      Whut whuuut?

    • @Supreme_Lobster
      @Supreme_Lobster Před 3 lety +2

      asking the real questions

    • @ArunUdai
      @ArunUdai Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, because measuring repeatability is not just reaching to a point from same direction all the time. Moreover, it needs to be loaded with its payload as well.

    • @ArunUdai
      @ArunUdai Před 3 lety

      ​@Armin Tamzarian It looks good in video. But practically any robot cannot be delivered as a product if its repeatability is identified and certified using this approach.

  • @cptairwolf
    @cptairwolf Před 3 lety +49

    Somewhere out there is a 5 year old asian kid who's doing the same with his fingers.

  • @FratDede
    @FratDede Před 3 lety +2

    Good cgi :D Joking, well done.

  • @yaalex25
    @yaalex25 Před 3 lety +3

    Не может быть...... Вот это точность kuka могет

  • @frohlmusic
    @frohlmusic Před 4 lety +4

    KUKA может!
    Потрясающий канал и работа.
    Сначала думал что это все 3д визуализация.

    • @OleksandrStepanenko
      @OleksandrStepanenko  Před 4 lety +1

      Таки может :)
      Спасибо, очень приятно.

    • @MaksymCzech
      @MaksymCzech Před 3 lety +3

      Тоже сначала подумал, что это рендеры, очень круто!

    • @OleksandrStepanenko
      @OleksandrStepanenko  Před 3 lety +1

      Максим Чех, Спасибо! :)

    • @jeysonrou8681
      @jeysonrou8681 Před 3 lety

      Как сказать, Кука не прям эталон, есть машины и более точные, но Кука обыгрывает своей подвижностью и интерфейсом.

  • @AriKesti
    @AriKesti Před 3 lety +1

    Please measure the absolute accuracy! Repeatability is easy.. reposition the tcp and go back to same position.

  • @khkpck
    @khkpck Před 3 lety +2

    is it 0.001mm or 0.001 inch?

    • @clodman84
      @clodman84 Před 3 lety +2

      mm, This is Hardcore

    • @khkpck
      @khkpck Před 3 lety

      @@clodman84 ? it is a magnitude of 25.4

    • @CasualInventor
      @CasualInventor Před 3 lety

      First one, then the other. :)

  • @APioneerInTheSeaOfStars

    That's cool, so that arm has a repeatable accuracy range of 0.003mm or 3 microns (3 measurements were .008, .006, .009) on that top micrometer sensor. I wonder how complex the algorithm is to keep that 3 micron range, I bet there's a lot of variables they had to account for. Must have been difficult.

  • @philippdeus92
    @philippdeus92 Před 3 lety

    Do you also build complete functionable robots for commercial purpose or is this just in phase of developement?

  • @tejasshah197
    @tejasshah197 Před 2 lety

    Try marlin software if you are working with same stepper motors like the way 3d printer or robotic arms works.

  • @DivyanshMMMUT
    @DivyanshMMMUT Před 3 lety +2

    Are a cinematographer at the same time ?
    You have KUKA!!!

    • @DivyanshMMMUT
      @DivyanshMMMUT Před 3 lety

      I really wanna know what do you do professionally , ok I am sorry I didn't even notice I am commenting on every video at the same time but I just found out know about all this stuff but please answer a last question what do you do professional ?

    • @OleksandrStepanenko
      @OleksandrStepanenko  Před 3 lety +1

      Different things, mostly industrial robotics and mechanical design. If you have LinkedIn, we can connect: www.linkedin.com/in/olekstepanenko/

    • @OleksandrStepanenko
      @OleksandrStepanenko  Před 3 lety +1

      Videography for me is just the way to present my project nicely, but I'm not really in this field.

  • @davidut55
    @davidut55 Před 3 lety +1

    If its so good and the ball is perfectly round, why not move the arm while gauges read 0? That would be a true test!

  • @roshanbagul5606
    @roshanbagul5606 Před rokem

    Assume robot tool ball moved in only direction of Y axis dial gauge and abusively we can see deviation in Y direction dial gauge ,but due to spherical geometry of robot tool ball ,we will get deviation in direction of x and z dial gauges also .How you are consider/compensate it ?

    • @OleksandrStepanenko
      @OleksandrStepanenko  Před rokem

      Indicators have flat tips. As long as the sphere touches a flat surface at all three tips, we can measure its position in Cartesian space.

  • @minerharry
    @minerharry Před 3 lety +1

    Salutations from the algorithm!

  • @personamems
    @personamems Před 3 lety +4

    автор издевается) круто очень!

  • @evolevil1
    @evolevil1 Před 3 lety

    Ммм, люблю технопорно)

  • @chicoxiba
    @chicoxiba Před 3 lety +1

    Up to 0.1 of a mm is good. If there is a bit of force in the works these robot arms get the 'shakes.. very quickly you have 0.2mm repeatability.. For many applications still a well designed simple cartesian machine is better.

    • @TheRainHarvester
      @TheRainHarvester Před 3 lety

      Wow .2mm isn't very good. Even my diy cnc is precise to .1mm (although accuracy might not be).

    • @chicoxiba
      @chicoxiba Před 3 lety

      @@TheRainHarvester The overhand is huge on arms. Imagine it has a payload of 20 Kgs... or 60+Kgs.. Even the big arms get the shakes; The trajectory planner on the high end tries to ease that but there are limitations.

    • @TheRainHarvester
      @TheRainHarvester Před 3 lety +1

      @@chicoxiba It's amazing it can compensate for sure!

    • @chicoxiba
      @chicoxiba Před 3 lety

      @@TheRainHarvester lol.. *overhang

    • @ignacioaguirrenoguez6218
      @ignacioaguirrenoguez6218 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheRainHarvester Does your DIY cnc have six axis?

  • @botabbueu51
    @botabbueu51 Před 3 lety

    If Fanuc and ABB is as accurate I can no longer blame them for not doing as I'm telling them....

    • @OleksandrStepanenko
      @OleksandrStepanenko  Před 3 lety

      They are all repeatable, but not accurate ...
      czcams.com/video/XSKfr5smV9Q/video.html

  • @U.S.A.
    @U.S.A. Před 3 lety

    In Hungarian Kuka means dustbin.

  • @notserpmale03
    @notserpmale03 Před 3 lety +1

    okay now move it while it's in the ceansor

  • @frankmyers4736
    @frankmyers4736 Před 3 lety

    I don't know if I should believe the title

  • @antoinelifestyle
    @antoinelifestyle Před 3 lety

    This is not CGI !
    This is cycles render 🤣

  • @CarlosMartinez-ej4qw
    @CarlosMartinez-ej4qw Před 3 lety

    Que es esto?

  • @rdyer8764
    @rdyer8764 Před 3 lety

    Not CGI? Where's the banana? :))

  • @GustavoCs0
    @GustavoCs0 Před 3 lety

    first look: CGI, of course!
    second look: WHY THIS STILL LOOKING CGI? Reverse uncanny valley?

  • @testsubject318no6
    @testsubject318no6 Před 3 lety

    the frick you do when it's off

  • @emileedhouse8367
    @emileedhouse8367 Před 3 lety +2

    ah! your weakness is rough textures when its all smooth textures it looks so realistically fake but with with rough textures it just would look like any tech demo (i might be dumb cos i see the world differently and understand things less than most people do)

  • @Ulexcool
    @Ulexcool Před 3 lety

    I know nothing about industrial robots, this wasn´t impressive at all, can someone explain?

  • @notyou1877
    @notyou1877 Před 3 lety

    WOO-PEE-DEE-DOO!
    we do this every day in the shop, except with more precission.

    • @notyou1877
      @notyou1877 Před 3 lety

      @@combatcorgiofficial Riiiiiiiight!
      IF you only knew.
      I can tell you one thing, though. If that is a standard axis resolution kuka robot, I'm guessing here, then one rotation of the resolver on any of its axis has a cool 1 million counts. Our machines have 4 million per revolution. The next generation equipment coming in here will have 12 million count per rev. So...
      Yea, KUKA ain't shit...
      I've watched them make over a milion car bodies back when I worked in a car mill and they do a fine work spot welding. They don't compare to any decent CNC machine, although the germans will make that claim "it's perfect and has great repeatability".

    • @notyou1877
      @notyou1877 Před 3 lety

      @@combatcorgiofficial honestly, I don't believe you. On the other hand, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, so...

    • @notyou1877
      @notyou1877 Před 3 lety

      @@combatcorgiofficial how many languages do you speak?

  • @pcmasterwraith7676
    @pcmasterwraith7676 Před rokem +1

    if it was cgi it would be more accurate, you guys can do better

  • @mertonur6774
    @mertonur6774 Před 3 lety

    .

  • @EvoPortal
    @EvoPortal Před 3 lety

    Is this supposed to be impressive or something? It's not. It's just a few gauges and a standard old robot arm

  • @raducristiandumitrescu1806

    KUKA is dead, Chinese brought them all.

  • @genepozniak
    @genepozniak Před 3 lety

    Hey, geniuses, the video is too dark!

  • @dford344
    @dford344 Před 3 lety

    The lighting sucks a big one.