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âPlay rugby union and see the world, play rugby league and see WiganâŠâ
Correct 1.7 mill gets u into a lot of swingers club world wide
Oasis club Toronto is high priority
Get what ever u want
Toronto unicorn evenđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Most close-minded blokes around. Both games are good to watch and alot of people actually watch Super Rugby and Nrl.
Super Rugby has gone down hill imho. The comp lost dynamism when it was dominated by NZ and Aus comp is boring to watch. Now they lost Saffas it's even more dull.
There were a lot more in the crowds on the same day at the same stadium for Warriors than Hurricanes vs Pacifica Moana and the Canes dished out a caning in one-sided game whereas Warriors vs Bulldogs was a gripping game.
Just saying, NLR is better quality imho. 15 Years ago Super Rugby was exciting but whenever the Aus teams still posed any quality.
Not many watch super rugby canât even secure a foxtel contract instead needed to go to Stan sports đđđ
@@danielkelly4487 largely because rugbyâs strength is also its biggest weakness in Oz. As it is global it means games are often on at stupid oâclock. Super Rugby had become unwieldy with too many South African games. Tries per game in SR was around 7 vs. 8 in NRL so it wasnât an entertainment thing. Now that Super Rugby has been reformed it can focus on more time friendly slots and rebuild interest. It will be challenging but the Lions Tour and RWC will give a huge boost to interest and finances.
I watch both codes but with only so many hours in the day I watch northern hemisphere rugby and NRL. When too much sport is barely enough as hg says
Close minded is a great way to put these lads, Kenty throwing words around without any research. 6 nations all games were full stadiums and playing entertaining rugby. I enjoy league but it seems very repetitive these days.
Imagine 4 grown men arguing about what a 19 year old is doing with his life đ
A 19 year old is a grown man too. They get paid very well to talk about what he is doing with his life. Whereas the 2 of us are getting nothing to discuss it. So who are the real chumps?
Shtup Karen đ^^^
@@tinymahuta Great reply . Summed it up .
Probably cause he getting more money then they ever got at that age
These clowns are absolutely joke
It maybe a dead sport in Australia
But not in the rest of the world
Yeah because Rugby League makes it look so ordinary.
Talking about in Australia buddy
Dead right. Leagues dead throughout the world apart from aussie. No one else cares.
Yup league head douche bags always talking about rugby being dead but fail to realise union internationally is 100x bigger then league. Some of leagues best players come from a rugby background, look at cleary he played rugby union in nz while dad was warriors coach. He'd be a big target in next few years too
@@danielkelly4487 That's the problem. The league media is so insular it is unreal, you'd think Queensland didn't exist never mind the rest of the world
Wish there was a representative on the panel that could give a rugby perspective. I love rugby league but to act like he has left the best thing ever is a bit of a farce. The response from the ARU chairman was 100% correct.
1. Kent mentioned the bore of the game in the Northern Hemisphere which clearly shows he is out of touch because at the moment they are leading the charge with the expansive and entertaining rugby we want to see.
2. The international game is SO FAR ahead of rugby league even a blind man could see that.
3. The ceiling for potential money for rugby players especially star players is through the roof compared to rugby league. Overseas clubs have the money and location attraction to offer more opportunities to players post their super rugby careers/international. Location one is very important too because the super league clubs aren't exactly must see/live locations either. To that point, you have NRL and then Super League. Done. That's all your gonna get out of your career.
4. Rugby league is definitely one my favorite games to play and watch but if we look at the actual statistics when considering the world - ITS DAY AND NIGHT difference between rugby and league. Rugby is certainly a world-wide sport and you just can't say that for league.
5. Longevity. You'll be able to make a decent career out of rugby over league any day. Plenty of opportunities are there for talented individuals even at an old age around the world.
6. Seeing the World. You actually will get to ply your trade in the greatest places and in the best arenas the world has to offer.
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Btw, no person in their right mind would turn down 1.6 million a SEASON lol so do your thing Sua'li'i. Looking forward to seeing how you do in rugby, enjoy the payrise.
Hit it right on the head there. At least chanl 9s league show had seibold on the panel backing up rugby as he's coached in the rugby arena before. Bit what I found with league show analysts and fans is they are very small minded when it comes to rugby vs league. Even with rugby in Australia not in a good place, the wallabies still pack out a stadium and that's not even playing the ABs. Then u have a wallabies vs all blacks game on Australian soil in Melbourne last year which is a AFL state and it sold out marvel stadium...tell me how rugby is dead? Lol
Unions still a tubby private school game. Leagues still got my loyalty.
@CV8Z and that's a Australian rugby union problem, hence the drama and trouble grassroots rugby is in
Well said.
There is a world outside australia...believe me...where some sports are more popular...pay more...attracts money more...even if you find it boring...let him be...do not be a bias..
It is quite ironic that YOU talk about bias, after what you have posted.
@@nevillemignot1681 No bias at all.I am a rusted on league fan but lets be honest about our code being minnows in the world stage compared to Union
@@nevillemignot1681 my point is....maybe he wants to explore more outside league aNd thinks about his future and his family's future...do not hate and put a man down just because he turned his back to the sport or code that you love or supported.
â@@jackohere1878 As someone who watches both codes. It's honestly amazing how much rugby union is a head of rugby league, on a global level.
@@jackohere1878 both codes of Rugby are minnows on a global stage
Also, the hilarity of saying Australia are bad at rugby union because the Northern hemispere is running international rugby. That they used to run the ball, so Australia were good. Ok Kenty, why are NZ so good, then? This bloke reminds me of some guy in a pub who just rants that much that people just nod at him and let him go đ
He should watch France play. I know that would involve research but at least turn up with some clue what you're talking about.
That's not to mention how France have been. Astute tactics interspersed by madcap plays by the best attacking half-backs in the world (Ntamack and Dupont with Jalibert coming off the bench).
Ireland, Scotland and even Italy playing expansive rugby too!
Argentina has been giving the big teams a run too! How much the game has grown internationally is amazing
He's way out of his depth talking about rugby doesn't even know Suaalii played centre in rugby at school.
Plenty of history over the years with NRL players leaving to ARU like Wendell Sailor, Lote Tuqiri, Mat Rogers, Israel Folau, Marika Koroibete, Timana Tahu, Suliasi Vunivalu.. Joseph Sua'ali'i isn't the first and he's definitely not the last.
RTS too, there's talk of him going to Japanese rugby for money instead of coming back to nrl
Although to be fair Rogers, Koroibete, Vunivalu and Suaâaliâi were Rugby players who switched to league before returning to Rugby but yeah I agree it will happen more. I think League poaches a lot more from Rugby in Australia than the other way round.
Tuqiri And Sailor switched in the height of Unions power. Folau has been a complete failure, judging by how they banished him from the game for his beliefs. I dont think its outlandish to say that the direction Union has been taking in aus for the last 5 years + is concerning to say the least. I used to go to every QLD Reds game as a kid, now half the super rugby teams dont exist anymore. Instead you have racist no white people teams that are complete financial drains on the sport and only serve to get their asses kicked every single weekend.
How can you respect a sport if it doesnt respect itself. Super rugby and the wallabies by extension have lost all credibility since the mid 2010s... Super rugby died the day they kicked the south africans out.
Lots of British players too like Burgess, Teo etc.
â@@wolfs1bane Nothing is lost losing the SA teams. They won nothing anyway, 1-2 titles over the duration of SR isn't damn near credible. They never got kicked out, moreso than they just decided to leave.
Don't know if kenty watched the six nations, but France, Ireland, Scotland & Italy all play open running rugby. League is big in Australia, NO where else
France, Ireland , Scotland & Italy đ€Łđ€Ł , countries where rugby is a distant 2nd to soccer & attracts only those countries second rate athletes most of whom have the skill of a slow moving ox.
You're just watching low grade rugby players having some fun. 99.9 % of them would be laughed off an NRL training program.
@@lesm350 Scotland & France Iâd say rugby is a flip of a coin with football (not soccer) Ireland 100% rugby is bigger than football. Outside of Australia, union is a way bigger sport than league. I love watching the NRL watch every morning back here in london, but i never watch the club game in England cos it is shite.
@@joshyaxley1198 keep watching , you'll love every minute
@@lesm350 league is still behind union and will always be with all rugby playing nations of both codes. Union does not need to worry about football (soccer) itâs a non contact sports and have more money & a much bigger profile everyone knows and except it already. Between the two rugby codes we all know which has a much bigger profile and it ainât league. Most of the sporting world donât even know that league is even a sport.
@@lesm350 You obviously haven't been to Ireland or the South of France
Rugby is not a dead sport ffs, the game goes beyond Australia
Lol itâs a dying sport in Australia is what I think they mean because in NZ, Saffas and Europe itâs booming!
@@kingq4113 good thing that the wallabies don't just play in Australia. It's a dying sport because we haven't been successful for 20 years, the panellists are either being disingenuous for the sake of clicks or are genuinely have too much red mist in their head to see the situation more fairly. They talk about the money better spent on their grassroots - the last 20 years has shown that our lack of success has dried up grass roots funds. Eddie Jones and Suaalii are not marketing grabs, they're ambitious decisions to make a deep world cup run, and consequently raise the profile of the game and draw more interest.
Considering the growing CTE problem that NRL zealots prefer to hide from with their head in the sand, rugby has an opportunity to sway the next generation towards union as a relatively safer game to play, as it doesn't feature nearly as many dangerous collisions that rattle the head.
â@@nichobee Mate Rugby use to have nearly as many players as League, now Aussie rules has more participants in NSW and QLD then Rugby. The drop in Rugby participation since 2001 is alarming, and signing Sualii and a couple of other Leaguies isn't going to change the fact that the Wallabies can't produce forwards good enough to go with the top teams. This 5 mill they are chucking at Sualii would be better spent trying to produce some decent forwards, or at least stopping them from going to League at schoolboy level.
As much as I want the best players in NRL, the union World Cup is super special and surely something players would want to try once
has Kenty watched a NZ side play? running spectacle at incredible pace...
Yeah but Joe is going to the Wallabies who are as interesting as a damp sponge in running ruggaz. đ
The fact is, itâs the international aspect that attracts players to union, look at the embarrassment that was the RLWC, now look at the Six Nations, at the end of the day the Wallabies are the Wallabies and if you think you can seriously make an impact in a Bledisloe or a World Cup, youâre gonna go at it
@Scott Mclaughlan and the final couldnât even fill up half a stadium with a max capacity of 15 thousand more like a joke if you ask Me. A World Cup final struggling too get 7 thousand people. Your average 6 nations match gets 90 too 100 thousand
@@caylebmladenovic3348 rlwc sucked cos it was in England
@@user-md8ny2rr7h rlwc sucked because it is the rlwc đđ
@@caylebmladenovic3348 rugby union sucks in general and rugby league produces superior athletesđ
@@caylebmladenovic3348 union would never produce anything as good as State of Origin!
Kentys right about 1 thing - the game is over policed. I remember Eddie Jones saying the ball is in play for around 30mins yet the game takes close to 2.5 hours to complete. Crazy.
80 minutes actually mate. Plus ten fir half time. Injury times 2/3 mins at best.
@@scottclark1975 I read that the average time the ball was in play in that autumn tour of Europe was 34 minutes. Iâm a Queenslander, but live in Argentina, and I used to watch the pumas and jaguares all the time and there were times when nothing happened for minutes. There were moments where there was genuine excitement only for a penalty to be given because someone scratched their bum with the wrong finger⊠ie the rules are inexplicable at times and ruin the game.
Thatâs why they are adopting the shot clock like the nrl
@@scottclark1975 âRugby Union matches generally run for 100-200 minutes which includes a 15 minute interval for half time. Rugby matches consists of two halves with each half being 40-minutes. Although a rugby game lasts for 80 minutes on its game clock, they take longer with half time intervals, injury, or game stoppage during knockout tournaments.â From the IRB website.
@@scottclark1975 ball in play it averages 34 mins because of the stoppages. the clock still ticks whenever theres scrum resets, lineouts and goal kicks. So if a rugby game is 80 mins you get a 46 mins lunch break within it.
what would kenty know about rugby union in the northern hemisphere đ has he seen a game of French rugby union
Union these days is so atrocious that I'd rather watch netball, But with that being said I can't blame Joseph for securing the bag$
only in australia
@@uchihasasuke2408 rugby, at least southern hemisphere rugby, has gone backwards⊠or better said is shrinking. Jaguares gone, South Africa gone.
@@uchihasasuke2408 you talking like the rules are different in different countries or something, its a slow game full of bloated players with the athleticism of a mailbox
Lmao union is literally 100x more popular globally and better then boring league đ
@@YallNotWhite_YourPINK Only during the world cup. Union is about as interesting as a bag of rocks.
Paul Kent clearly doesn't actually watch rugby union
Get a penalty kick for goal, repeat for 80 minutes
Who does?
@@jameswestover8403 As a non Australian its pretty clear you people are very loyal to a specific sport which in some ways is admirable but seem to be ignorant to other sports and even border on stupidity in that regard calling the sport rugby union boring is pretty absurd if you actually watch it especially in a country that loves cricket I am a fan of union and league by the way
â@@braambezuidenhout9550 they have such an inferiority complex. Weird but amusing to watch. Don't worry leaguies i am sure you can grow the sport in more than 2 states in the next 50 years. Good luckđ
Rugby league kicks every 5 tackles by the wayâŠ
Dead Sport?đđ I'm a fan of both codes but on a global scale rugby is growing. Might be having tough times in Australia. But a coming Worldcup and Lions series should fix that.
It's got intrinsic problems however in the rules and the spectacle. Historically and culturally it's done well and imho was always a better sport when it was amateur. With professionalism it's become more and more like League but with too many old trappings that don't work which League iterated and removed and stream-lined already...
A World Cup in 5 years ? Lol đ rugby canât even secure a foxtel tv rights the main sports production
@@commentarytalk1446 it had a problem with concussions that League also has. As a spectacle, what problems? The last Six Nations had 6 tries per game with Ireland and France playing rugby out of this world along with Scotland and Italy playing an expansive style. All of this is going to be on the a Netflix Drive to Survive type documentary next year. It might not get attention from a few insular journalists in Sydney but itâs a bigger world out there.
@@Br0wnCh3 Said it elsewhere, if I had kids and they liked rugby then I'd advice them to play League during their school days: More focus on core skills, more time on the ball, more intense continuous game etc.
Mate rugby is dead in Australia. That's what they're talking about and the world cup and lions tour won't make the slightest difference.
this is exactly what rugby union wants and we are falling into the trap. couldnât believe that kenty said folau did only alright in union
He was the best fullback in the world when he was playing đ Folau is a generational talent
Folau was a very overrated fullback in union. Ran exceptional lines and was an exceptional support player. Great under the high ball as well. But lacked a kicking game and the knowledge and nouce of when to run or when to kick. Would have been a lot better on the wing.
@@samueltaylor9078 Agreed. Ben Smith was a superior FB
was Folau ever the best union player in the world?
@@cmac_415 best fullback? you're hysterical.
Sorry Paul, watch the Six Nations game between Ireland and France, absolutely brilliant. Rugby may be a non factor in Australia but itâs massive elsewhere.
Although Union is more popular in the U.K. then League itâs fanbase is declining and 2 Premiership Clubs have gone bankrupt in the last 6 months.
Finally a good game
â@@midlandmachine and what about countries like South Africa Argentina, and especially Japan.
@@midlandmachine plenty of NRL clubs propped up by the gambling industry, doesnât show a true picture
@@midlandmachine COVID driven.
He wants to travel the world playing rugby union
.......spending his $$$$$
This panel needs to understand Samoan culture and the philosiphy of Fa Samoa. If Joseph subscribes to this philosiphy, he's determined to look after his family, and has a finite career, so needs to make as much money as he can to ensure his grand parents, parents, siblings, his own children and grand children are taken care of with homes, food and education. The world isn't exactly getting cheaper so good luck to him - I hope he stays healthy and happy over his long career.
Pretty sure they said good on him for taking the money
They are hypocrites anyone wouldâve taken that money. They just rambling for the sake of television.
is it part of Samoan culture to throw the Samoan jersey to the curb in favour of a shiny new green and gold jersey and a bag full of cash?
@@wolfs1bane depends. Will that polyester garment secure intergenerational wealth for current and future family members, or will the bag of cash do that?
Maybe he just wants to play the British and Irish Lions and a Rugby World Cup in his home country.
Suaalii was eventually going to go to Rugby - he played rugby coming thru high school so eventually đ€·đŸââïž. He wants to play in the 27 world cup in Australia.
Good on the bloke but he's definitely coming back after his contract is over
Heâll probably go to Japan or France. Far more money to be made.
@@Runboyrun89 Maybe France but japan is a retirement home for players in the twilight of their career
@@Taania675 nope- players go in their primes now
@@Runboyrun89 besides barret who in their prime recently gone to japan?
It comes as no surprise that Anasta says "supposably"
Nrl acting like they're a big deal đ why not offer sualii more money than if you have a problem with him leaving? His decision for his family is non of yalls business lol acting like Rugby League is a big deal.. he's going to a sport where he's going to be known world wide not the one where only Australians know about đđđ
Most Australians outside NSW and QLD wouldnât be able to name 5 NRL players.
No union player is a household name in Australia
@@danielkelly4487 like I said.. WORLD WIDE! Not Australia lol
I'm not an RU fan, but I do watch it, it's much more open and expansive than it was 5 or 10 years ago, especially in the northern hemisphere. There's a lot more attacking verity.
Watch highlights, its all kicking penalties
Your not a fan but U watch it and know wat union was like 10 years ago ,sounds like an RU fan to me
@@jameswestover8403 no it isnât. 6 tries per game in the Six Nations just gone. Go look at the highlights of Ireland and France, they running expansive rugby. This is a meme from 15 years ago.
Agreed. Six Nations Rugby is really good
NRL should be more worried about the AFL instead of losing Suaalii.
Pulling on a wallaby jersey is still one of the greatest honours in Australian sport. Getting a baggy green and swimming for Australia is maybe on that level or higher
Baggy green then daylight
What would be the bigger achievement for Australian sport out of winning the Cricket World Cup, Rugby World Cup, Rugby League Word Cup or winning the FIFA World Cup?
@@azwanazmi1484 Football World Cup and Rugby World Cup
Sorry but the prestige of playing for the wallabies isn't the same as what it use to be. That's evident in the amount of Rugby schoolboys who switch to play League in hopes of playing in the NRL. The Rugby die hards will obviously always say that the Wallabies is more prestigious, but most casual Rugby fans are also League fans, and would prefer their NRL club win a premiership, then the Wallabies win a world cup.
Australia's decline in Rugby Union hardly dents Rugby's growth internationally, the sport is miles ahead of league in popularity and it hasn't even peaked yet. That's like saying soccer is dead, just because Australia sucks at it.
Pretty sure he said rugby is a dead sport in Australia listen champ
â@@danielkelly4487 geez someones triggered, was referring to 0:32, where he literally says it's a dead sport without explicitly referring to Rugby Australia, I think you're the one who needs to listen champ
Kenty has had it in for suaalii since he proved him wrong at the worldcup.
Paul Kent needs to put down that schooner of Tooheys Old for a second and look up Antoine Dupont and Finn Russell on CZcams. He barely knows what he's talking about with League, he's got a snowball's chance of hell of knowing anything about Union in 2023.
Kenty "Folau went over and was alright"
Folau won best aus player twice. Top super try scorer all time.
Definitely worth the money and Joseph could do the same.
watching australian sports media is like watching sports media on ESPN from 10 years ago. It will be a sad but predictable day when this all turns into first take.
You can't turn down money like that at his age. Union is huge outside of Australia, although league is easier to watch
Rugby Union is a global game. Thereâs plenty of money on offer in Japan, France, and the UK. Itâs an Olympic sport. The Rugby Union World Cup is the third largest sporting event in the world. Itâs not dead itâs booming.
Kenty's lack of RU is very evident. Not saying its always a great spectacle but recent 6 nations was the most entertaining in years. A world cup approaching with 6 or 7 genuine contenders. Theres more to publicity than having NRL 360 chat about you 3 times a week telling you what youve done wrong
The future of rugby union is dual code players in both hemisheres.
I played both codes as a lad and have seen both change over the years. Iâm assuming Kent hasnât watched much Rugby lately? I watch both but find Union easier to watch than League as League attack has become very predictable (improving in past couple of years with less interchange) but Union in last decade has gone back to running rugby. Six Nations this year was excellent.
The problem I have with RU are the refereeing decisions at ruck and scrum time. Can't see much of what goes on in a ruck, and the subsequent refereeing decision, if the ref does blow his/her whistle. And as for the scrum, well...
Too many rules and stoppages in rugby its almost on par with the NFL with the amount of stops in play. Lets face it in rugby they play for penalties because its almost a guaranteed 3 points, you can take a smoko when the ref blows the whistle, scrum reset and go for a walk in teh park walking to teh lineout and the scores blow out because the defence in rugby is shocking. A good game of flowing rugby is nice to watch but nothing compares to the arm wrestle of the NRL.
@@davidtaliai996 you're not wrong, but you are not quite right either. As a general rule, the idea of playing for penalties and the obsession with stoppages in rugby is accurate, but in super rugby already laws have been put in place to prevent this, leading to a season already with far more ball in play and running rugby, this laws will probably be adopted internationally after the world cup, seeing as though they have been very effective. Defence being shocking in union is a little much mate, super rugby has a tendency to slip up in this area, but international comps and most clubs around the world have defence of a better standard than league. something that everyone seems to forget is that they are different sports with different styles and different rules.
He's chasing that coin why not?? He's young and wants this for him and his family. I hope he does make a stamp on Union. Such a talent. Good luck dude đ
Kenty is out of date. Wallabies might be average, but France and Ireland are doing a lot more than playing 10 man rugbyâŠ.this years 6 nations was a cracker.
League offered him ridiculous money to play league and now are angry union have done the same thing.
Leave him alone to chase his dreams n his got his family to look after too
the reason they turned him away early for 300k is because they knew it would take more for union to develope him to this point. poach at the right time
Well no he wanted to play both 7s and 15s, Union also had the Folau saga aftermath they were cleaning up. Getting Suaalii was probably at the back of their minds. Because if your statement was true why did they sign Jorgensen on big money then?
This is hardly a poach. Theyâve just come and thrown the war chest at him.
@@mileschicken1 yea after the nrl took the time and MONEY to develop him, poach az mate
Jeez Kenty... clearly he is biased towards disliking rugby union . So many inaccuracies in what he is saying . Eg. He will hardly touch the ball. Mate a union full back touches the ball just as much as a league full back and so do the wingers. Also the game has definitely sped up recently even in the northern hemisphere and the games have been super exciting in the 6 nations. Tbh rugby is far more expansive than rugby league on attack with the standard block plays really making the league attack look "same same"This is only the start . Union is getting private equity in australia and with their centralised systems, wallabies are going to earn good coin and it will be an attractive option for many nrl players who came from a union background.
It's a no brainer for the kid. He has the opportunity to change his life, and his family's life. These guys have such a short window to make as much money as possible. These guys have such a draconian perspective. Talking about Folau etc and how it impacted his public profile. Why not refer to SBW, who had a huge profile, success in multiple sports etc. If any of these fools were offered a job working in the media for football for double the money would they turn it down? Absolute clowns.
Kenty is spot on, the game is so complicated and boring to watch. The running game of rugby is dead. Good luck to the kit, take the money and run, he will hardly see the ball, wont get injured and can come back to league when he has see the world.
most of the world is playing union, if u asked many countries what league is or even what nrl is they would have no clue. international rl will never reach unions level bc of nrl and u close minded ppl
RTS averaging 4 less touches in Union than he was in League hahahah "Barely touch the ball"
NZ Herald reports RTS will go to Japan where he can make over a million dollars for a short season and so will last many seasons there.
I highly doubt that is the case and that stat is bullshit . Rts was a fullback took the ball up and touched the ball atleast twice a set
Yeah because union is a different game duhhhh đ€Š
Heâs an inside centre in union he touches the ball constantly in union at first and second receiver out the the back of the forwards too Clearly u havenât watched him play
@@zaclomas7493 nah man because union is a fucking bore to watch . But I dare so there would be a lot more just catch passing he does in union if you compare attacking plays and metres he was doing 4 times the work in league
Its his choice. Let him be. None of yous gonna buy him a house in the future. Start talking about the Dolphins shocking the NRL world
Can I just say : who cares ? Good luck to the guy and any others. My life will not be affected.
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No one:
Absolutely no one:
These guys all of a sudden: "Sua-Lee-Hee"
Braith, Kenty and Buzz acting some sour little haters. Kenty hasnât really watched international rugby has he. Itâs as exciting to watch as anything. Especially 6 nations. Only reason why it struggles here in Aussie cause we have to compete with several other codes.
Anyone told Kienty that the average match score in Super Rugby Pacific is over 65 points this year.
Thatâs because they canât fucking tackle
And the so called âboringâ Northern Hemisphere had 6 tries per game in the Six Nations just gone. Ireland, France and Scotland playing open expansive rugby. Heck even Italy are playing an open style of rugby now.
@@Runboyrun89 so less then half tries per game then league . Less then half the time the ball is in play aswell . Takes just as long to do a scrum in union then it is to complete 4 sets
â@@Runboyrun89 it's boring.
@@nathanclearyschin7100 outside of NSW and Qld they donât agree with you. There was a period when the style of rugby outside of the All Blacks had become turgid but no more. League will always be in the No. 1 game in those two States but rugby will retake market share in the next few years.
Kenty is a dropkick! The Wallabies fundamentally want to beat the World Champs that are the All Blacks. Sua'alili is a gun player, and with more skills in his arsenal will only get better with time. The only thing I will agree is that grassroots needs to be fixed. I am an Aussie coach in the English private system, and we need to do the same as the Poms.....they have so much depth.
Go for it Joseph. Enjoy it and good luck to ya.
Go the Chooks !
I think it say's something ,when your biggest and most promoted game, considered to be the benchmark of the sport, is a 3 game series between 2 states/ provinces ... yeah right !!!
how can you say you canât improve the wallabies by buying a winger/fallback when players like folau had the same transition and improved the wallabies
Because getting Folau didn't improve them. They didn't win any competitions, still got smacked by the top tier nations more often than not and it didn't resolve their issues with young players. They're in a similar yet worse position than they were before Folau.
@@mhjyuti i understand ur point, but saying they didnât improve isnât true when they got to a world cup final in 2015 and israelâs own performance speak for themself, heâs in the wallabies top 5 all time try scorers despite spending a considerate less amount of time in union compared to the others in the list, was the wallabies rookie of the year in 2013 and winning 3 john eales medals (second most in their history)
@@mhjyuti facts
@@mhjyuti Waratahs won in 2014 and Wallabies made World Cup final 2015. Jog on mate
â@@mhjyuti lmaoo bruh Israel n that wallaby team... He basically carried that team bro... lol
Kent's comment that the last time Australia won a World Cup was 1999 proves it is internationally more attractive.. The fact that on any given World Cup year, Up to 6 different teams could potentially win it.. and this World Cup there are actually 9 genuine contenders for the title. Yes it was great to see Samoa reach the Rugby League World Cup Final last year but where does the majority of those players play!! .. yes you guest it, Australia.. so please tell me Kenty, was there ever a RL WC where it wasn't just a 3 horse race! Australia, England and NZ..? give yourself a uppercut mate.. and what a cowardly attack on Izzy Folau.
Disagree with the Folau take, he was massive in rugby. He was our best player for 5 years
Rugby League is big in two states in Australia. The last rugby world cup had over a billion viewers throughout the world. So closed minded, you can enjoy both sports without tearing down the other. Australia cared when they won two word cups in the 90's and packed 109,000 plus people into Stadium Australia in 2000's (more than any nrl game). Sorry the kid wants to earn more money and travel the world instead of one state over.
Funny thing is the worse thing to have happened to RU is RL defence coaches
explain that for me?
Not anymore. Look at the style of rugby Ireland are playing under Andy Farrell, open and expansive. Although tbf he has been in rugby nearly two decades now!
@@lukechopper3950 I assume he means in the mid 2000s when there was a wave of League defense coaches that came to Union. I donât actually think it was the League coaching mentality that took the game down a dark corner, it was actually the kick and chase tactic tbf.
@@Runboyrun89 thanks for explaining that to me bro
@@lukechopper3950 It was inevitable with professionalism, but they introduced the modern defensive structures in the game. The line speed, and slowing the ball down by keeping it off the ground, the analysis etc
Imagine blowing up at a 19yr old that had $1.6m put in front of you and taking it
I have followed the NSWRL/ARU/NRL since I was 6 years old but always played and also followed Union.
Kenty is a deadset numpty. â The sport is dyingâ here in London on the weekend there was 55 000 at a club match Harlequins vs Saracens. Itâs not dying at all. Itâs going through a rough phase in Aus due to poor administration but internationally itâs thriving.
World rugby is far bigger than the nrl ,kenty is wrong to say it's dead as much as I hate it it's far bigger than the nrl wallabies travel all over the world just because rugby is near dead in Australia doesn't mean it's dead world wide
Good move for young Suaalii, take the big coin while you can, yoi never know only a Injury/ head knock away from losing it all...still young enough to come back to nrl.
Can we just talk about the Roosters all the time. I love it. Doesn't get boring ever.
Dead sport in Australia just got revived. You do realise the Rugby World cup is about 4x as profitable as the League equivalent yeah? Silly stuff. This man just said Izzy was alright. Lmao đ
I think the money they are pay Jo is already starting to pay off!! This is the most publicity union has had in how long. With publicity comes sponsorship
OK disclaimer before I rant, I adore RL and the NRL....now for some hard truths Mr Kent.
As a European I can tell you it is hilarious listening to these Aussies on occasion, Australia is a like a fish bowl sometimes. "Rugby is a dead sport", if you were outside Aus you would all know how fatuous and close-minded a statement like that is. RL has been green with envy about RU for decades (even though imo it is a better product), and it's clear to see why. RU has an international game which DWARFS anything RL can offer. Moreover, there are fully-professional clubs teams in...wait for it..15 COUNTRIES. England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, France, Italy, Romania, Georgia, USA, Canada, Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, South African and Japan. I might even be missing a few.
When a sport has a professional global reach like this, a RL commentator is in no position whatsoever to be throwing mud like this. RL has 2 professional leagues (and Super League is not great tbh) and a laughable international game because of this.
I adore RL and watch it every week, but Kent's comments are absurd and demonstrably false. RU may well be struggling in Australia, but it has a market reach, income and global appeal which RL would kill for.
So, respectfully, Mr Kent, as a fellow RL fanatic, you're a jealous SOB who talks a bunch of BS.
Amen to that.
Big League fan but it has to be said that Union is in a good place atm . The 6 nations has been so entertaining . On the flip side and to Kent's point, the Northern Hemisphere runs the show and Super Rugby is failing
Very true...the Northern hemisphere unions are basically running rugby union
It's just annoying they're Acting like it isn't a business. League is only big in Australia. He's not the only league player talking about union big names like cam Murray , pat carrigan and Connor Watson have all came out recently saying they'd all consider swapping over to Union. Unfortunately for league it isn't as big as these panelists think it is.
Man just said Connor Watson is a big name đ
@@paulinthecutt well known in the game as a personality maybe not a star player. Had a hugely successful podcast as well
Ireland, Scotland and France play such an attractive brand of rugby. This Kent guy is clueless, probably hasn't watched a game of union in years if he still thinks the NH game is 10 men rugby.
This is why I love PK.
At being bitter and angry at everything that they donât agree with??
Kent is a bit one sided. He can have a better career in rugby, play in Japan or Europe after a big 4 years or so with the wallabies. I am sure that the NRL does all its contract negotiations out in the open as well.
I didn't know they have a WOMAN'S DAY panel commenting on the NRL
The NRL is the premier rugby club competition in the world, league or union.
I don't know how the existing Wallaby players will fancy playing with Suaalii who is earning much more than them. Just ask the Newcastle Knights how they felt about playing with Kalyn Ponga.
Bro I love both codes, end of the day itâs a business. Youâll do what ever you need to do as a player to look after yourself and family. To say heâs a good kid and player then say BUT!! Is just cap. His future his choice.
People can have their opinion on what players need to do, itâs just an opinion. Good on him looking after himself and family first.
Rugbys not dead in the world. Its dead in Australia cos Australia cant beat All Blacks or even Ireland anymore. Stop it mates
He was told to get out by Wayne Bennett, asking a ridiculous amount of money as a junior, they sold him , Wayne said give a few years he will go Union for money how correct was he
Donât worry Kent weâve got a RWC coming up with out Suali and itâs going to be a belter
Great insights by Buzz. Talk to the experts.
The fact is Politis wasn't contacted by Moses is it isn't about money Suaalii wants to go union
Nonsense that was a balanced view and totally correct. Yawning is on its arse. As The Cheese said he'll be back to the real code asap.
There is more to life than Kentâs rugby league bubble in this world , well done to Joseph getting out there play around the world and get a payday , this lot are just bitter
With inflation and the banks closing up in the states theses days, its wise to take up once in a lifetime deals
Rugby is pretty much dead in Australia, but thats only one country with a tiny population. League is dead everywhere else, but really Football is king all others are second or lower. Football players play right upto about 40 years old at world cup level, can you spell longevity?
My guy said itâs a dead sport đ Only in Australia. Sualiâi and Toa Samoa put your sorry as World Cup on the map. RWC tickets for this year sold out in 5 hrs. Womenâs Rugby World was bigger than the league World Cup. Sualiâi knows his worth and ARU recognised that. Because he played for the Wallabies 20s
Paul Kent canât spit out two words together successfully, let alone understanding the rules of rugby. Should mention that he doesnât have to act punch drunk just because he is the âboxing guyâ
Some valid points of argument there but come on Kenty! Rugby is not a dead sport. Look at the international game. How many games do the Wallabies play a year compared to the Kangaroos. Compare both World Cups as well. I love watching both sports. Just as good as any other reason to grab a beer and shout my lungs out.
I love Kenty and NRL 360
Kenty is full of it the tackles and ball play is killing the sideways crap the nrl is producing
I grew up in Australia and New Zealand, I played rugby league and rugby Union and I can 100% say Rugby Union was way more fun, physical and overall a better sport.
Who are the people on this panel what are their names?
League will never hold a candle to union as long as we have people like this running the sport. Australia is like Americans who isolate themselves and play their sports within. Difference is Australia doesn't have the cash to prop it up in a meaningful way.
Got to Buzz' comment about Isaac Moses and keeping Politis in the dark. Pull the other one. Do you think Politis told Mitchell Pearce's manager that he was on his way to Melbourne to have a chat with Cooper Cronk? Did he have a chat with Flanagan's manager in advance of cutting him loose 1 year into a 3 year contract? Like Politis is deserved any more courtesy than he shows everyone else? Why?
Well said Paul Kent...Rugby Union is just not the same game any longer.
As a youngster growing up in Durban,South Africa during the 1980s/90s..I used to marvel at the sheer brilliance of the game,watching mighty contests between the Springboks,All Blacks, Wallabies,France and the British Lions.
Those days are sadly no more.
Definitely enjoy watching League a lot more these days.
Your a league fan and your lying.
@@premiumlawns2526 Greetings... I've played both codes.
Union and League
@@kevinoliver6237 doubt that
Kent saying Izzy was alright in Union is a joke đđđhe was a dominant player til he got screwed over his post