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The 1up USA Super Duty Double Bike Rack: long term. Is it really the best?
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- čas přidán 1. 11. 2022
- This is a review of my 1up USA Super Duty Double rack. It's meant to replace the video I did over a year ago on the same topic. That original video had some issues that kept being brought up by the audience so I decided to revisit the topic for a quicker and more informational approach. Enjoy!
Well done on the review - we're stoked you're liking it!
One quick note on the fading - we did have an issue with a batch of anodizing and there are some parts that fade very quickly. Those parts are covered under out lifetime warranty!
Awesome! Thanks for the info! Pinning this response…
Just seeing this. I should reach out to them for some fading I’m having on my 2 bike black model.
@1upusa608 Ok wait… faded anodizing is covered under warranty? A few years ago I brought this up to a gentleman at the 1up booth at Sea Otter and his brief reply was unequivocally, unempathetically, ”Anodizing fades.” I still used this rack several times per week without issue; however, this interaction has kept me away from your considering your brand. It did lead me to finding other functional bike racks on the market. But please let me know as I am in the market for a rack and would love to get this fading handled. Thanks.
Thank you.
@@mtb916 I do not think they are saying "normal" faded anodizing is covered under warranty. I think what they are saying is if you got this bad batch then that is covered under warranty.
You succeeded. This was a clear, concise report providing salient information rapidly. No awkward pauses. No run off tangents. Excellent. TY
Purchased this rack a few years back on a buy-once-cry-once vibe and never looked back. If I added up all the Thule roof racks, various foot kits, extra trays, valences, etc…it is far over the cost of this rack in the 2 bike model.
I do have some fading with mine (black model, trays and levers faded) but otherwise this rack has been flawless functionally. Easy to assemble, use, and install/remove. If anyone is on the fence about it you can’t go wrong and there is no shortage of takers on the used market if you develop buyer’s remorse.
Great video! I've been considering buying one and you just answered most, if not all of my concerns. Thanks so much!
Thanks for that 18 month review. Much more important than an initial. Probably will go for the 1UP soon.
Glad it was helpful!
Well done! We have the Kuat NV 2.0 rack, but I pushed it beyond its limits in an off-road situation (nothing as knarly as shown in your video) and both arms failed. My fault, not the rack's fault. So, I'll likely upgrade to the 1UP Super Duty Double. I installed a front receiver on my F-350 as we tow a travel trailer. We have two Giant electric mountain bikes. Thank you!
great review. well done and very helpful
Fantastic video. Basically solidified that i'll be buying one of these 👍
Great vid! I run the 1up Equip D - 2 tray. When used w/ my carbon fiber bikes I always use the wheel locks just in case any tires lose air the lock will keep it somewhat secure until you can rectify the issue but have noticed when loading my heavier ebikes- that the front fork will start to twist and turn and the bikes will start to lean back towards the road, even with the wheel locks inserted - so I grabbed some NiteIze gear ties to try and secure wheels better to the rack but after a recent 4000 mile road trip found that I still had to re-adjust both bikes at every gas stop to bring them back to a perpendicular position but never had this issue with the lighter bikes.
I also used the gear ties to wrap both pedals together to lock them up and prevent them rotating/spinning. Final point - as mentioned at end of video, occasionally check and tighten bolts but don't do as I did when I saw there was too much play in the trays moving around and take a ratchet and socket and torq down on the nut because it will bend the aluminum tray very easily - didnt notice this until I saw one nut had 3 extra threads showing and I noticed that I over torqed it and damaged the tray. The trays are supposed to have some play in them to absorb movement of bikes on rough roads. I have considered the 1UP the best rack on market after numerous cross country road trips on the back of my Jeep but now with addition of heavier ebikes I have started to look at the more expensive quickrr rack due to its better weight capacity
Tying the pedals together is a good idea. It doesn’t grind up the crank arms?
This is exactly what I needed! Thanks!
Thanks for the video! Just bought a 2 bike, based mainly on your off-road video... answered my question! Taking the bikes on the Rubicon now....
Rad! Have fun!
Thanks for this succinct review!
Good video. I have the single bike, heavy duty 1Up bike rack. Simple to put together and install on the back of my truck, but one thing I did notice. After only half a dozen trips, each of which was less than 30 miles, I noticed that there was a bit of wobble in the rack. I had tightened everything up really well with the supplied special tightening wrench. But I had to re-tighten them. I hope this doesn’t become a recurrent issue.
Odd. I always make sure to lift the rack while I tighten the anti wobble tensioner. Seems to help it get extra tight. Maybe that would help?
Our rack always works it's self loose (in the hitch) after a Denver to Moab jaunt. Bought in 2020 I think. So I'm not the biggest heavies bloke on the planet and I stand on the little Allen wrench they supply too.
For some reason, you and DÆrik are the only CZcamsrs with bike rack reviews that feature coherent sentences, and the others I watched were clearly from native speakers.
To be fair, formulating coherent sentences can be difficult. 🤣
@@ShreddingSpree This is true, but wordings like, "This is the bestest rack I think, it gots the most thickest metal and I like the color," do not inspire confidence in the speaker's recommendations.
For others looking for reviews of a similar quality to those from Shredding Spree, I have also been impressed with content from "E-MTB Review" and "GREYWOLF MTB". I ended up going with the QuickRStuff "mach2", which like 1Up, is made in the USA.
Great video
Thanks for adding this video. It made me aware of what to expect and how to avoid the issues. I think I will buy a 1up to replace my KUAT
Glad to see it is made in the USA. Wish it had a ramp to roll up my 75 lb. Bike. I have a bad back so I need the ramp.
Well you’re in luck my friend, they also sell a ramp.
@@ShreddingSpree thank you. I will have to check again
As another deterrent from theft and to completely resolve the pedal rub issue, I typically remove the pedals before driving too far with multiple bikes on board.
That’s another way to do it!
My brother has one of these. I have a pickup truck and I'm jealous. Don't get the black one if you care about fading.
Thanks......great video
Glad you liked it!
Thx. I'm considering this rack to replace an old rack that has alot of wobble. The 1up seems to do the same in your video.
If you’re referencing when I shook the bike with the flat tire @5:45 it wobbled a lot because I didn’t have the tensioner bolt tightened. Sorry. I was taking the rack off and on while filming and I didn’t fully install it to shoot that part.
@@ShreddingSpree thx for the clarification.
Your video answered my question about wobbling using the hitch extension. I also have a Jeep Wrangler and so will need it. Where do I pick up the anti wobble device you showed? I haven't ordered a 1UP USA carrier yet, (it's in the shopping cart), but now you raised a concern about the black anodized aluminum fading. I should just click on the "Buy Now" button and get it over with. 😂
Haha. The purchase is inevitable isn’t it. 😂 I got the hitch tensioner from Amazon.
The black anodizing will definitely fade over time. But my silver one has been living on the back of cars for the last 3+ years and it’s doing great.
anti rattle device $12 at Harbor Freight
I use the 1Up security wheel locks for both security AND if my tire loses air pressure. With the wheel lock the bike will remain in the rack.
Good call! When I’m jetting to-from my local trail system I don’t bother with the wheel locks but that’s a good reason to always put ‘Em on there
@@ShreddingSpree yep, a slow leaker could catch ya off guard.
As far as security, wouldn’t the wheel locks still allow for the bike frame to be stolen?
@@wpoooo1874 yes, the determined thief will always be able to steal. It's the common tweaker that you are thwarting.
Great review. If the tires go flat while the bikes are on the rack, are the bikes still secure or will they wobble dangerously?
You’ll find your answer to this @5:23 in the video
@@ShreddingSpree Thx...my wife's bike has fenders on front and back wheels...will the rack still clamp on the tires?
@@Drostvideo depends on the length of the fenders but I think you’d be fine. Don’t take my word for it though
ok thx
I've had this rack for 8 years. Several parts wear out and 1up says they are normal wear and tear. Lifetime warranty isn't really useful if it doesn't cover the primary metal parts. Expect to shell out $100s every few years to maintenance.
Ease of use this is very versatile and great to get bikes on/off. Don't try to lower it or get into the back of truck when the bikes are on.
Not sure I'd buy again. Not sure I've seen a better option.
The levers should not fade immediately and if they do 1up will warranty replace them. There was a bad batch of annodized parts that went out and 1up replaced my parts that faded within a short time. I have a roof rack version from a few years ago and the levers on it are still bright red.
Good to know!
I can't recall the name but my collapseable mountain bike has collapseable peddles ( purchased seperately) which you can push in to disengage and collapse and you pull them up from the collapsed position to reengage to the riding position. Perhaps a google search or an amazon search will reveal them.
I like the thought of collapsible pedals for a casual bike like a beach cruiser, etc. but on a mountain bike that I’m trusting to go 30+ mph on dirt trails and 30’ jumps I think it’s wise to stick with pedals designed for hard mountain biking.
Great review! I have a question though, as I'm about to hit the "place order" button. I saw a video that shows two bikes on this rack in motion behind a vehicle. they are swaying dramatically forward and aft, almost if not actually hitting each other, and the vehicle appeared to be on a paved road. Really concerns me. I see in your video the one bike behind your jeep seems solid, but upon closer inspection it does look like the handlebars are exhibiting this fore and aft movement. Any experience with this rack and two bikes mounted? Any solutions you know of to remedy this?
Hey Mark. I’ve driven the rack distances with 2,3, and 4 bikes on the back and never had issues with bikes hitting eachother… aside from pedal rub.. One thing you have to consider when mounting bikes on it is clearance between one bike’s handlebar and the next bike’s seat/seatpost. This is easily remedied by offsetting the bikes to either side of the rack further or closer depending on the situation. Or by simply dropping the height of the seats.
There will always be wobble forward and back on the bikes because they are fixed to the rack by the tires which obviously have flexibility unless air’d up to very high psi (too high for MTB’s) and I don’t consider this movement to be a problem at all.
I have a heavy ebike and cannot lift it onto our current bike rack. I'm curious if you can put the front wheel on the rack and roll it across or are the bars that hold the bike in place in the way.
1up makes a ramp kit to go with the rack you may want to take a look at… they have “long” and “short” ramp options.
1up-usa.com/product/v-style-ramp
Nice video, thanks. What I don't get about this rack is it holds the bikes WAY, WAY off the ground. I can see where this would be nice for someone off roading, but 95% of the time people are using this for regular streets. I think the bikes are so high I don't know if I can get them on or off. I know that it tilts, but even still this bike rack seems to have the bikes up higher than anything I've seen.
I don’t really see this as a problem. If you’re basing this concern on what it looks like on my jeep please keep in mind how high the back of the lifted wrangler is compared to a car. Yes, the rack height raises with each tray you add on but that is necessary when you consider the ground clearance needed for entering driveways etc. when the rack protrudes off the back of the vehicle as far as this one does.
When only running one or two trays the bikes are basically just a little higher than the hitch receiver.
Hey there, loved the video. Reaching out with a question, I have a 22 Acura Mdx and just got a hitch installed. It says Capacity is 3500 Lbs, with a Max tongue weight of 350 Lbs, and 2” receiver. I am planning to get a 1 up super duty double, and 2 superduty extensions as I need to carry 4 bikes( 1 Trek Roscoe 32 Lbs and 3 trek Marlins 30 Lbs per bike). Is the younger limit and tow capacity enough? Do help
Yes you should be good to go with that setup. You’ve got approximately 125lbs in bikes. I’d estimate the bike rack with add-ons weighs roughly 60lbs (that’s a guess, but the rack is definitely not more than 100lbs) Add all that up and your weight is about 185lbs which is well below the listed tongue weight on your vehicle.
@@ShreddingSpree Thankyou!
Excellent review. I just ordered one. My wife and I have e-bikes and they have fenders. I am slightly worried that this will impact the level at which I can secure the tires.
Hope it works out for you!
@@ShreddingSpree I have a Juiced RipCurrent S with fenders. You can lower the bar that touches the wheel. That worked for me. I am also considering putting foam between the tire and the fender and then some kind of foam wrap like a pool noodle over the part that touches the fender.
@@davidsneen761 good to know!
Great video, what about if you have fenders? Will this rack still work?
I guess it depends on your wheel size and fender type. With 29” wheels the spacer on the rack arm clamps to the tire roughly 16-18” from the arch on the fork. The rear clamps roughly 25-29” from the seat post. I believe it should work fine with most fenders I’ve seen out there on the market
@@ShreddingSpree Thanks!
I'm not too sure either. They do sell a large round pad that replaces that bar that normally goes on the tire. Still that would push hard on the fender and may or may not cause some problems.
Is it a pain to add and remove the add ons? I was leaning towards the quickr stuff rack but with a 4 bike setup it’s a 1k more than the 1 up heavy duty double with two add ons
No it’s not difficult to removed the add ons. Two bolts, loosen them partially then slide the add on to the side and it comes right off.
In your experience, is this rack a good fit for electric bikes with fenders? My rear fender is pretty long and I think I will have a hard time locking in to the actual tire and I hate to lock into the fender as I feel this will only cause a problem in the future. What do you think?
I unfortunately do not have an electric bike with fenders. The compatibility depends a a handful of factors. However I have been told that 1up does offer a padded attachment for the rack arms for this specific scenario
How does one deal with fenders, like on a Townie 7D EQ? Does one crush the fender down to the tire to take up slack?
I don’t have an experienced answer for this one. I know 1up offers a fender cushion accessory but am personally unaware of the amount of flex it causes on fenders.
Pedal grind is real!
😞 I know it too well.
Do you recommend the quick release handle for a 2 bike setup?
Meh. Not really. The handle is pretty easy to reach without the quick release extension with only 2 bikes. Since I switch the configuration somewhat frequently between 2,3, and 4 bikes I’d rather not deal with the extra steps. However I suppose if your rack will always be configured for two bikes it could be worth it for ease of use.
I think my only gripe with the rack is the release and the fact that you have to purchase the extension for two or 4 racks separately. At this price point, it should be included.
In my first video about this rack I griped about the price more. Now after using it for a year+ I’m actually ok with it. You get what you pay for. Especially after seeing the way other racks can deteriorate.
What would the weight limits be. As this of a huge concern being that we have 2 ebikes.
For the super duty double bike rack you can go up to 75lbs per bike when carrying 3 bikes or less.
If you put 4 bikes on it the limit is 50lbs per bike.
I had the same issue of fading colors
But they have a amazing customer service…
I send the bike rack and they replace all the parts..
And they cover the shipping cost the down time was 7 days
One week out of the trails not bad as long my rack gets fix…
Yeah my levers faded almost immediately.
I was very nervous putting my brand new beach cruiser on this rack. czcams.com/users/postUgkxG6JIgwJhur8_Rg8UeQ3EmePzi_wSncL8 But after reading many reviews I decided to get this one and take a chance. When arrived it was very simple to adjust and put together. I also added spike tape over the metal hooks before securing and tightening the straps, and no scratches. I also purchased the top bar made by the same company so that my cruiser sits straight on the rack without having to turn upside down. Extra bungee cords are used to secure the front wheel from flapping and even piece of mind knowing your bike is secure. Definitely recommend...
Great succinct review. What size is that Spawn?
Thank you! The spawn is a 20”
Could this be used on a fat tire ebike with fenders??
Yes but may require their fat tire spacer kit and fender cushion accessories.
Does the rack work with fat tire e-bikes that have fenders?
They sell spacer kits for tires over a certain size. They also sell a pad attachment for bikes with long fenders
Fatbike compatible? kids 20" and 24" compatible? Whats the longest wheelbase It'll accomadate?
As noted in the video, it accommodates fat bikes (with spacer kit), as well as 20”, and 24” bikes.
I don’t know what the max wheels base it works for, check with 1up for that.
Is there a ramp for loading?
Not that I know of.
Yes there is a ramp now $122 that includes some replacement parts since you have to take out a pin to let the arm go all the way to the ground to use the ramp.
What about bikes with fenders?
There isn’t a universal answer here. It depends how long the fenders are
Can i use for 2 suron bike
Are they under 75lbs each?
two pairs of thick socks covers the pedals nicely
Good hack!
One item that you may wish to emphasize is a comparison. The pedal issue is the same for every tray-mount bike. The under-inflation is also an issue with any tray-mount rack (less so on the One-Up). I'm not so vain as to even address anodization on aluminum (what?, why? who?). I own a Kuat - I will probably buy a One-Up next.
The color fading could be caused by car wash soap
Totally possible.
This rack doesn't work well for bikes with fenders
Wth is a zap strap
I don’t know. Who said anything about a zap strap?
Stick with the Equipe D .Wider and stronger without the silly threaded positioning clamp.
Equip’d rack= 50lbs weight capacity per tray
Super Duty- 75lbs per tray. Equip’d is not off-road rated either. Just “gravel” rated. So I don’t know what part of that rack could be considered stronger than the super duty…
What part of the equip’d rack is wider and what’s the benefit of that?
Popular rack but overpriced for what it is.
Which rack do you prefer?
Who told her she was ready lmao
Don't buy this. I have the 1UP super duty, and I have driven over 3000 miles with it. What happens is if you drive over bumpy terrain or dirt roads, the bikes sway so much back and forth that the pedals will scratch your car. My new car has gouged out paint because of this stupid rack. This never happened to my bikes with my old Saris rack.
Thanks for sharing. Sounds like a setup problem. The the hitch insert is slotted so you could move the rack away from your vehicle to have better clearance. Still too close to the car? Put a hitch extender between the receiver and the rack. Just because the receiver in your specific car doesn’t give the rack enough clearance doesn’t mean the rack is garbage.
Just velcro the pedals and secure it with the frame?
That could work. I’m using the pedal covers though.
What are the security features? What keeps people from stealing it part by part?
Lol. Stealing the rack part by part? The bolts that secure the add ons require a special wrench but I don’t imagine many mountain bikers are waiting in the wings to disassemble unsuspecting rider’s bike racks. And what are the everyday thieves going to do with a set of rack arms?