Where does Shavkat Rakhmonov rank Khabib on MMA G.O.A.T list?
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Shavkat is The GOAT himself. 18 finishes is no joke for someone who's super relax like him.
Totally fair answer. He's definitely in the Top 5 Greatest of all time however
GSP, Fedor, DJ, Silva, Jones. See no Khabibs there.
@@upupupandaway It’s Jones, GSP, Silva, Fedor then Khabib for me. Regardless, if he isn’t in your top 5, he’s the Lightweight GOAT and in the UFC hall of fame
@@vagabond57097 Demetrious Johnson is a waaaaaay more accomplished fighter than Khabs and he's a clean athlete, so belongs higher on the list than even Silva and Jones. And no one with the number of title fights that Khabs has should ever even hope to be brought up in any kind of GOAT discussion, unless we're talking about unused potential. He's a what if, not a GOAT.
@@upupupandaway Nah he's the Lightweight GOAT until someone dethrones him, most likely Islam
@@vagabond57097 Nobody's dethroning him, cause he's not sitting on any throne. There are people in the UFC with more title fights than he's got UFC fights.
Khabib, GSP, DJ are the real GOATS of MMA
People just hate Jones 🤣 have you seen the trail of the bodies of killers Jones left in his wake??
@@elcapo8596 you mean Cheater Steroid Jones- a multiple times proven PEDs user. He doesn't deserve any of his wins. It's unfair to all his opponents.
Jon jones and khabib and gsp are the goats and dj
@@elcapo8596 Hm maybe cause hes a fcking cheater and is the reason why eyepokes exist. He also failed multiple drug tests and even his test where he past show his low testosteron cause of PED use (just watch More Plates more Dates Take on it on the JRE Podcast)
@@elcapo8596 jones and gsp are at each other’s throat for the goat debate but if jones beats ngannou and stipe he’s 100% the goat until another 50 years when of course a more dominant fighter comes along
Good answer by Shavkat. These GOAT conversations are always very interesting; people have their own criteria for what constitutes greatness. Part of it is in fact longevity and combatting many #1 contenders with many different styles. While Khabib has fought some incredibly tough guys, he doesn't have those title defenses against the #1 contenders. However, where Khabib shines above all else is the shear domination, anytime he got inside the cage. Aside from 1 or 2 rounds, one can argue every single round in favor of Khabib. That can't be said that about any other fighter.
Khabib is the G.O.A.t because never really lost a round. Only two ofically against Justin (which everyone knows he won) and against Connor (which you can debate). Never knocked down never cut. He told you the game plan before the fight. "Take him down. Make him tired and maul. No one could do shit about it.
Yeah but he retired way to early, only 3 title defenses and only 13 fights in ufc
@@harrycammock6051bs
He is top 10 for me.
Top 5 for me
He can’t be on the top 5 with only three title defense. Definitely top 10 tho (for now)
@@johnb.5217 doesn’t matter still showed his skill and dominance
@@johnb.5217 but his dominance, arguably never lost a round entire 29 fights, never knocked down, never bled or scratched brother, i can't say that to any other fighters bro, i saw somebody said this " in the game of inches he never made mistakes, in the game of blood he never bled
@@Rlouis367 that is true! He is a fucking legend. But base on resume and level of competition, we can’t put him ahead of Aldo, GSP, Silva or Jones.
Tbh i feel even if Khabib fought 2 , 3 or even 4 more fighters , result would be same , fully dominant performance , victory by submission or decision.
But he didn't. So we have to judge him for his actual performance, and not an imagined one
@@jakedones2099 that "actual performance" being total domination
I believe whole heartedly that he could beat 3 top 5 guys in one night. And to top that of, a champ both inside and outside the cage............ I mean how many fighters have you seen who change their submission mid fight because they don't want to hurt other person
How many times have you see someone who talks to the d@mn boss in between rounds to negotiate next fight
Have you seen someone who jumps without fear into a crowd of thousands just to bite someone's heart off
Have you seen someone who mauls others like a d@mn angry bear.......
To me he is the Great athlete of all time
This kid is honest
Khabib for me one of the list the greatest of all times..the only record could not reach other fighter for khabib is that he never lost even a single match in his professional career.. which is jon and gsp never reach that level
Because 60% of his fights were against ppl that were o wins 10 losses or 0-0 ....or 1 win 7 losses. in Russia.
Its take tough mantelity to reach that level bro.. even colby also in WW run and hide to face chimeav.. u see what i mean.. its 100% mantelity to reach that level.. islam is continue the legancy and Oliviera know how dangerous islam is...
He fought a ton of bums pre UFC. He’s got some amazing UFC wins but didn’t stick around long enough to build a legacy comparable to GSP or Silva. winning a belt by beating Al Iaquinta and 3 title defenses before early retirement vs GSP or Jones’ years of dominating and cleaning out their divisions multiple times isn’t comparable. Khabib could have been the goat, but we’ll never know
khabibs the goat
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I don’t know why khabib not play for next 3 years he will be the greatest of all for me he is far better then John Jon’s if they fight in the same weight John jones don’t have answer of khabib take down and the result will be the same for khabib. Look khabib is phenomenal genius and his defense is undeniable no one can hit him of the face. John jones is playing smartly he picked up his opponent after passing his peak, and he is playing maywheather things. Just he doing for his records to set forever. John jones is great striker power timing but that’s not gonna work against khabib. Khabib is far better fighter then everyone. No one can beat khabib
you are correct, sir.
Nice honest answer, that's the thing with Khabib only a few more fights at the highest level would have made all the difference. Incredible fighter but he just didn't do enough and it's a shame considering his incredible skillset the lengths he could have taken them.
@@mmad6700 Most of those wins are against nobody. Our point is he needs a few more wins in ufc to secure that goat status
@@waylimyen what more could he do tho, only fight worth taking since he retired is oliveira, he literally beat all the best guys at 155 during his time there, who else is there..
@@mmad6700
Tbh,Khabib needed more title defenses IMO.
4 or 5 more successful title defense against guys like Tony,Oliveira,Chandler would have made the difference.
@@mmad6700
Khabib is a great guy.
What would I have anything against him?
He is very wise,disciplined and morally upright too,far more than the Cokehead Jon Jones.
He is an excellent wrestler and grappler too and very dominant champion.
But in MMA world,Jones is better than him.
A better skillset.
A very long reign.
Multiple title defenses against monsters.
He’s the hypothetical goat, if he kept fighting he would’ve probably been unmatched but we can’t say for sure.
definitely the goat
@@AC-mp7cx biggest Khabib fan here. But people have a point when they say he’s the hypothetical goat
u find some evidence to back up the "thoery" when u hear from people training with khabib, like even Islam says with he's own tongue he almost never won a sparring session! against khabib.. the guy was a no match phenom, but jones s the GOAT on paper for sure no dissussion.
Everybody has an end he ain't superman
@@DisciplinedLionJohn Jones puts him Top 3
1. Jon Jones
2. GSP
3. DJ
4. Anderson Silva
5. Fedor
6. Aldo
7. Artem Lobov
8. Khabib
Greatness is not just about the sports... to win the tittle of greatness you have to be larger than the sport which i believe khabib is.
Then stop attributing it to his career cause sports accomplishments is what is being debated here. Wtf is "the tittle of greatness" anyway.
@@upupupandaway greatness is what Muhammad Ali had.
@@ZeeshanIqbal24 There are greater than Ali in boxing. And how is Khabib larger than the sport? He makes money, yeah. What else?
@@upupupandaway all those great boxers themselves call Ali the greatest of all time. Similarly khabib
@@ZeeshanIqbal24 Nobody but Khabib himself is calling him the greatest of all time. You're trying to appeal to opinions of others but give no real examples. That's just putting words in people's mouths.
Jon Jones, The drug Cheater, multiple split decisions, disqualification, women beater, and what not, people calling him Goat lol, no wonder you guys representing this young generation lol..
Cry your ass out!! You are not a UFC fighter or a analyst to know how good Jon Jones is elite fighters Joe Rogan has said Jon Jones is the GOAT!! Who the fook are you 🤣
jones is the greatest waste of talent of all time
If you're a steroid cheat then you're out of the GOAT conversation permanently !
Imagine if DC took steroids like Jon Jones lol I'm pretty sure we all would have seen Jon fly out the cage like Team Rocket from Pokemon it makes no sense why people forget about Jon cheating and put him on the GOAT list.
Jones is the GOAT, period.
dc testerone was over 4000 before fight lol. It's not possible naturally even gifted people has lower than 2000
i agree about the criteria for goat list, if youre cheating in the cage and using peds, thats low
EXACTLY
UFC Khabib the champs maker
The real fighters know it's not even close.
Sick & tired that a cheater that got banned several times for PED use is even mentioned in GOAT discussion. Jon "PED GOAT" Jones.
Agree with him, anf its coming from me khabib fan
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Gsp to me is goat rn but if Jon gets the heavyweight belt then he’ll take over that spot
increible y certera respuesta de rakhmonov, totalmente de acuerdo con el, y dejen de llamar a st pier el mejor despues del robo vs jony hendriks que le dio la golpiza de su vida. Probado john jons es el mejor hasta hoy
Agree 100%
Smart man
Both Khabib and Jon Jones still have incomplete mission. Both are GOAT at their own league.
Jon Jones have one more step to be the GOAT, that is to knock out the unknockoutable beast Ngannou.
Jon Jones is very good at adjusting his fighting strategy in the middle of the fights.
Khabib have more steps to be the GOAT, there are to get middle weight belt first and defense the belt (in lightweight division there is no way current fighters can take his title belt so its useless to count the title defense)
Khabib is the only fight who never bleed or scratch inside the ufc octagon.
Khabib retired it's over for him
Khabib , GSP and maybe Silva but definitely not Jones cuz if you take peds then that spot is already tainted for you
Ragnarok is scary as hell. Didn't feel like a fight. Felt like Magney trying to avoid death. Even when he shaked Bisping's hand the dude was scary.Gonna take a hell of a big Hammer to stand a chance. Someone go get Thiago Santos.
Meth bro
khabib is not the goat. but he is the only one who never bleeds in the cage. that is some achievement itself considering how many good strikers he fought such as barbosa, gaetche, conor n poirier
Boring guy
he is the g.o.a.t
Bro.. U can't call a guy who has failed drug tests and "won" MULTIPLE controversial fights the GOAT, it's not possible. Khamzat chimaev is the only one worthy of 1 day surpassing Khabib Nurmagomedov on as #1 greatest most dominant force this earth has seen.
exactly brother JON JONES CAN NEVER BE THE GREATEST PEDS BOY THERE IS MANY GREAT FIGHETRS HENRY CEJUDO HAMZA CHIMEAV ISLAM MACHACHEV
FEDOR!
Piccogram jones 🙊🙉🙈
Why he is imitating khabib than,by his head thing?
because it's like wearing a ballcap in america where they are from
Khabib nurmagomedov is number one for me and will always be number one , but his father Allah yarhamo is one of my favorite heroes ❤
Kabhib had a great career but he is NOT near Jones, Aldo, GSP or Silva.
Don't compare the drug cheaters Silva and Jones with GSP and Aldo
@@muneebelahi7580 Silva only used roids to heal his leg.
He’s definitely near Aldo.
@@jms7265 I love Khabhib but in terms of careers / resume, Is not even close. Khabhib was very dominant and defended his title 3 times.
Aldo was a champ for 10 + years and after his prime, he is still active and competing at a very high level.
The goat must firstly be undefeated but most importantly is the most dominant....Any others fighters in MMA comes in mind other than Khabib... I don't think so.
He's completely right, Khabib can't be the GOAT when he only has only fought 4 top 5 opponents in his career. Jon Jones has over 16, GSP over 10, Silva over 10, DJ over 10, Stipe even has fought 10 top 5 opponents.
But u can't be greatest if u LOST, let alone if u lost multiple times. Khabib fought 29 times and was dominant all 29, NEVER had close fight. and don't act like he would have lost if he defended his belt 3 more times, he could've easily fought usman, covington and GSP and ragdolled them all back to back.
@@HamzeOsman He missed weight 3 times and never went up a weight class because He would get ragdolled at his true weight. You can’t be the goat with only 4 names on your entire resume worth mentioning. Resume matters. You go 100-0 against tomato cans it wouldn’t make you the goat.
@@tacotacotington3638 Are you still mad he rag dolled your boy? Who I believe moved up to welterweight, so what ur saying makes 0 sense 😂 he wrestles with DC man u can NOT say stupid shyt like this, you sound like a casual bro, relax
@@HamzeOsmanSo by your logic mayweather is better than ali because he never lost
@@arjunkolaveri9767 bbut mayweather had ALOT of fights were people thought he lost, had ALOT of close fights, and avoided alot of competition, plus he was no where near dominant, he was the opposite, he will win by running around the ring, khabib NEVER ducked a challenge, came back from severe career-threatening back and knee injuries, nobody even talked about him taking tune up fight, cuz everybody knows whatsup when it comes to khabib, he went straight to the big challenges, AND MMA is not boxing, being undefeated in boxing is common right now, but MMA almost impossible to stay undefeated. don't bring boxing logic to MMA
Khabib is top 10
#1Jon Jones
#2 GSP
#3 Fedor
#4 khabib
#5 A Silva
In my opinion khabib is the greatest LIGHTWEIGHT. But not the GOAT
Khabib is the fucking goat the middleweights and the heavyweights can’t even handle khabib luke rockhold and DC couldn’t even handle him in training
Khabib would lose to anyone he couldn't take down and there's plenty of elite wrestlers just now making it into the rankings who could potentially stop his takedowns.
Jon Jones is the GOAT for me. People refuse to recognize Jon Jones as the GOAT because of the stuffs he's involved in outside of the octagon. Nobody can deny how great he is in the octagon.
He honestly did it all
@@darkpath6674 do you give credit to Brock Lesnar for beating Mark Hunt?
Being on drugs is why he won most of his fights. He struggled to beat anyone post USADA
That comes under his performances in the octagon
Everyone was juicing earlier!! If Steroid can give you skills then pls let me know 🖕 Jon Jones is the GOAT in the history of MMA 🔥
@@SamJS1317 does steroid give you skill? Good question
If Olivera beats Makchaev, that brings Khabib goats status in question even in his own division.
And raises Olivera to possibly the best ever at least in his division to hold the belt.
Will definitely never happen.
🤣
how does oliveira already on a goat status ? his last 3 fight is not one sided, knockdown each fight, so now islam beat him, khabib goat status is superior ? make it make sense
Jon jones the best..noone knew this boring wrestler khabib before McGregor fight
I think Islam could beat shavkat to be honest. And I like shavkat.
"could" is a strong word. Islam could also beat Khabib at 155.
1. Jones
2. GSP
3. Khabib
Really? Jones shouldn't even be in the same discussion, he has been disqualified the day he cheated & gsp lost to a guy named mat not once but twice, so can't have him above a guy who just got better and better with no sight of slowing down, could have defended 100 more times with ease, retiring p4p #1 in his situation in life, mentally, physically & financially, anyone would have done it, having him #3 behind gsp n a cheater makes 0 sense to me tbh.
dont know why americans wont respect jones as much as internationel fighters and fans
Idk why anyone would respect Jones in the first place
Cuz he's a drug cheat. There now you know why.
Khabib still in Top5 GOAT list..I never see a Domination like Khabib in other GOAT.. My opinion, Khabib is a Champ among the Champs bcs outside the cage he keep his legacy move on and put it on higher level..
Khabib only has 3 top 5 wins...
Almost every fighters agrees Jon jones is the GOAT.
I hate conor just because he lost to khabib. Khabib 👎is just boring unprofessional wrestler and not more.for me number 20 top fighter 🤮