The World Cup beef that shattered Ireland's dreams | Roy Keane vs. Mick McCarthy
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2020
- Mick McCarthy and Roy Keane are both Irish soccer sensations.Mick saw greatness playing for Ireland, and then became a respected manager while Keane’s stacked up accomplishments with Manchester United, proving himself to be one of the greatest to ever play the game.
For the 2002 World Cup, McCarthy was Ireland’s manager, and Roy was Ireland’s star. What could go wrong?
Apparently, so so much. While Ireland defied the odds and earned point after point in their difficult World Cup qualifying group that included The Netherlands and Portugal, behind the scenes, things between star and coach were rocky. Keane technically quit and rejoined the team one night! And what do you know, things escalated from there into a huge blow up in front of the team that included obscenities and accusations.
The pairing of McCarthy and Keane could have lead to nothing but success for Ireland - but it didn’t. Because these two are like oil and water. Which just so happen to be two key ingredients for a savory slab of beef.
Written and produced by: Clara Morris
Directed by: Jiazhen Zhang
Edited by: Jiazhen Zhang and Phil Pasternak
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Roy Keane beef with Viera?
Roy Keane Beef with Sir Alex?
Roy Keane mini series anyone?
Isaac Crook agreed Roy keane is proablly one of the maddest lads ever lmao
Nathaniel Merrill Keane justjust a missable ass dude ngl
Roy Keane beef with Alf Inge Haaland
Isaac Crook idk I wouldn’t say that I’d say detacated is a better word
Nathaniel Merrill I don’t really mean when he was playing he just kinda seems like that now on sky
Cool, but we need Mauro Icardi and Maxi Lopez beef history. For those that don’t know about it, just know it’s insane.
Icardi getting a tattoo of lopezs kids was extremely odd
As brutally insane as John Terry and Wayne Bridge beef history
Moore football beef
@@emdotrod as Giggs and his brother's wife😬😬😬
kc13015 YES!!! THAT NEEDS TO BE NEXT🔥🔥🔥
Keane has beef with almost everyone tbh.
Filthy Act at a Reasonable Price had the same idea for a comment 😅😂
My dad met him on a plane once and simply said hello to him as he walked past, Keane looked at him as if he’d spat in his face 😂😭
Keane still gets into beef with people now he’s a 3rd rate pundit
I’m surprised they didn’t do Roy vs Patrick
True ngl
I never in my life thought I would see a beef history about my homeland
Neither did I
Curious what the opinion of two men in Ireland is. This video doesn’t paint Keane in the best light but McCarthy seems to come off as fairly likable here.
@@Letterman0412 I find Mccarthy to be very disingenuous then and now and Keane always gets portrayed as a bad guy by the media due to him never lying or sugarcoating beef(Alex ferguson)
Keane acted like a brat for the most part. Would fall out with himself. A great player but contrary character.
Be Safe my Irish brothers. I'm not Irish but have an affinity for the country.
I don’t even think Roy Keane likes himself at this point
Bruh....keane doesn't take no bullshit. McCarthy can't hold a candle to him
He doesn't like himself! He hates himself the most, In fact he holds himself to extremely high standards. That's the whole point with blokes like Keane!👍
Never thought I'd have seen this on SB Nation....
Love your videos man
Right😂
Thought about dbg when I saw the irish dude
yes lads
Mourinho's beef with the whole barcelona team would be cool
That whole Real/Barca rivalry during Mourinho's time would be great, especially the interesting aspect of how the Spain players on both teams had to be friends while on international duty and still won a world cup and Euro cup
@@Av8tor5252 True especially that the Beef between Real Players and Morinho started because the Spanish Real players wanted to make nice with Spanish Barca players for the world cup and Morinho hated that.
Mourinho vs Everybody
Yassssss
Well, Mou has beef with almost everyone. He's the football version of Mike Keenan.
As an Irishman this was great to see on a channel I normally go to for NFL and NBA. On behalf of the country, thank you. Go raibh maith agat
Was just thinking the same my guy. I usually go to this channel for basketball and suddenly there’s a video about Keano and Mick on my home page ha! Unreal. Team Mick all day btw. I was only a youngfella in 2002 and was raging Roy Keane wasn’t there but as I got older I grew to, let’s say, passionately dislike the man.
@@tomm9402 whats the views on this in ireland, is keane hated for this?
What a player tho, that game in turin for utd and landsdowne road against holland. Unreal
@Heinrich Finklegoysteinberg II thats not the queens english my friend, mick mcarthy isnt even an english legend so i doubt very much he is in ireland either.
I was asking about the unparralleled roy keane who could boss a midfield that had zidane, davids, dechaumps etc with the likes of nicky butt by his side.
Anyone who says he is over rated isnt worth talking to about football but wondered how he was viewed in ireland because that team in 02 never lost a qualifier save for play off in iran i front of 100,000 away fans and no no keane. Didnt lose in the world cup, went out to spain on penalties, it was a old brazil team that beat a terrible german team in the final. Ireland had already got results against holland and portugal and may well have won the bloody thing.
Pompey, england fan.
South korea got to the semis that year
@Mad Man 1 that they did, the game against italy was quite literally, unbelievable...
Gave the italians the incentive to win the next world cup tho that should have been frances, zidane was unreal in that tournament...
Ironic seeing as he would never boss a midfield with keane in it way he did against brazil the quarters think it was and if he dreamed of headbutting keano like he did materazzi in the final he would wake up and issue a public apology lol
It’s really poorly done and poorly researched in terms of the finer details. Would’ve been much better if done by someone who actually knew football well
This conflict had lots of salt, a key preservative for long lasting beef.
Roy Keane, world's greatest Pain In The Ass
edit: but I can see why, I'd go off if you told me "the goalkeepers are *tired* "
He's a treble winning captain. Few players can claim such honours.
The only time “the goalies were tired” is a valid excuse is if like in my primary school, most of the backup goalie are also first or second choice defenders and the team has already gone through a hard practice. Goalies are extremely important but their training are no more exhausting than the rest of the team, at least in my primary school where I was the first choice goalie and captain of the team, the only time I was as or more tired than the rest of the team are practices where I hurt my hands halfway and played as defender for the rest
Michael Cheng cool michael
Keane came from a world class system in Manchester United so of course he’d be pissed at how they were preparing.
The goalkeepers were out of it because they were training in extreme heat and humidity for the first time. Shay Given in particular looked as if he had lost a stone in weight. Saipan was just meant to be an acclimatisation trip with real training to take place in Japan.
Keane was just a self-righteous hothead who thought he knew more than the coaching staff.
You lost me at “Mick McCarthy, Irish soccer sensation.”🤣
It's interesting hearing Keanes take on it.
He was angry that his national side was constantly so unprofessional. From preparation, to logistics. He spat the dummy at that World Cup because the Irish management were a shambles.
He insisted that the side had to act more professional and be supported as such.
That was correct.
He just went about it all in the wrong manner.
I think the points he brought up were absolutely spot on but should he have left they way he did? No.
Gee, a country of less than 4 million (in 2002) has less money and resourced than one of the biggest footballs clubs in the world! What a shocker! Face it, Keane was/is a loud mouth idiot. To expect Ireland to be like Man Utd is absurd.
What made that beef so intense during that time was because:
1. Having played at Manchester United for so many years, Keane was used to the standards Sir Alex Ferguson set during preparation and matches. He was a fiercely competitive personality who knew what was needed to win trophies, and the Irish setup was anything but conducive to that. McCarthy not doing anything to change that was seen as a broken promise.
2. Having reached the quarterfinals of the 1990 World Cup, Jack Charlton was seen as a near-god by the Irish public during that time. Older players like McCarthy deferred to him without question, but that opinion wasn't shared by the younger players, particularly Keane. This is probably how it all started.
3. For many years Ryan Giggs didn't play international friendlies because of injury (officially). However, the truth was that Sir Alex had a policy of refusing to release him for these matches, which didn't endear Giggs to the Welsh fans. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a similar policy for Keane, whose playing style meant more time spent on the sidelines than most players.
4. Keane was not a nice guy when he got drunk and would fight anyone who rubbed him the wrong way. Sometimes his targets would even extend to United and Ireland fans, so what do you think the Irish media's opinion of him would be?
5. Another one of Keane's personality flaws is that he holds long grudges (Alf-Inge Haaland being the most famous example), possibly because he was written off for being too little as a young player. Whatever the reason, it's not a personality you want to have when resolving prior differences with your manager.
About first point.
Keane is not the first world class player who played for weak national side. For example in world cup 94 Stoichov played for the best club - Barca but he still played with passion for our national team.
I knew Keane had ended Alf-inge Haaland's career, but I didn't know it was grudge, can you explain?
@@noname-hf9ty
It started in 1997, when Man Utd went to Leeds for a league match (which they lost 1-0). In the final minutes a clearly frustrated Keane lunged in for a tackle on Haaland but ended up injuring himself instead (it was a knee injury that kept the United captain out for about a year). As he was rolling around on the ground Haaland accused him of faking injury, which is the absolute worst thing you can accuse Roy Keane of doing. Four years later Keane would get his revenge in the Manchester derby with that infamous tackle.
@@zhiyuanchen6211 damn Keane really did hold LOOOONG grudges didn't he surprised I didn't hear about this before
@@mechkota And? Barcelona and Real Madrid flip a coin and then one of them is handed the title at the start of the season. It is a joke of a league, there is little sacrifice in playing for both your national team and Barcelona. Roy Keane played for Manchester United, if he didn't have his eye on the ball for half a second he wouldn't be lifting the title at the end of the season.
Please do the Icardi vs Maxi Lopez beef & the MK Dons-Wimbledon saga SB Nation!!
Dons Wimbledon would be tasty as hell
MK Dons - Wimbledon should be Sam Hammam vs Wimbledon Fans, it was kinda similar to Art Modell beef with cleveland
About Icardi - Lopez. One part that most people don't know is that Lopez already betrayed Wanda Nara sometimes ,even with the Nanny.So,there's no one really right about all...
Just saw first few seconds and have to say I wouldn’t have described McCarthy as a ‘soccer sensation’. He was hardworking and committed but never more than a journeyman. Keane was a genuine world class player and the best to ever wear the green jersey
Denis Irwin?
Agree with what you are saying, but Keane was also an Arrogant, violent Thug!!!
Aye shoutout sb nation love from Ireland 🇮🇪 stay safe everyone god bless 🙏🏻
Never in my life thought I would see this beef on the covered
Still divides the country to this day. Neither are to blame as it was and always will be the FAI's fault
A vital point that shouldn't be forgotten about the FAI
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Keane was right
@shane long It actually seemed more like Keane was. Even though you might not agree with the manager when it comes to training or preparation, you don't constantly undermine him and complain to the press, threaten to quit all of the time, basically holding your country hostage for your ego.
McCarthy did what he could managing such a personality. Even though the Saipan trip was his idea, it wasn't his idea for them to have poor accommodations and conditions. That's on the FA. So for Keane to complain about the manager about these kinds of things is petty nonsense that has no place for a country competing at a World Cup. It's a distraction and McCarthy was proven right in that they took a contender in Spain to a shootout.
@shane long I'm assuming you meant to type Roy Keane because that describes his behavior here to a T
IM FROM IRELAND AND WE HAVE A MUSICAL ABOUT THIS CALLED IKEANO
I never thought id see this up on this #EIRE
I don’t know who any of these people are but Mick McCarthy is the most Irish name I’ve ever heard
Born and raised in Yorkshire.
czcams.com/video/0OQT1psCoAc/video.html
Worth watching this amazing video of him too
Ironically he's not Irish
Interesting in that he's from Barnsley! To be fair, both his parents were DEFINITELY Irish. Not a bad player at all, classic old style centre half with a decent touch.
You're a racist
As an Irish person. Thank you.
Edit:Also it's interesting how both their career's have gone up to this point
roy keane seems like a douchebag tbh. do you feel this way?
It's also funny as another Irish person to hear the Saipan story from an outside point of view
As an Irish person I remember feeling Keane was right there was no way the french or italians or english were oreoairing like this for the wc. Mick wasn't a great manager either he could have gotten much more out of that squad
Do you know the musical about this
@@danielmizrahi9629 I don't like him as a person but he was a great athlete and competitors. In my opinions, he's the kind of person that even if he's right, he goes about things in a way that would rub a lot of people off the wrong way.
Roy Keane has a beef with life itself
U should do an "untitled" on Steven Gerrard
Well he won the CL and other titles so it doesn't really make sense even if he didn't win a PL
@@gudrunbennetrothfuss2131 its madness that he didnt win the prem. And a story I'd like to see be told that's all
@99quechua how is it. Winning the prem is way harder than winning a CL. And its something that gets brought up against him in every conversation about his legacy
99quechua not really the champions league is a bigger trophy but it’s not the main demostic competition to most Liverpool fans wining the league is/was more important than the UCL
Well if the FA strip man city he could be a champion
Clara, I think your work here is excellent and this was a very enjoyable video. Thank you!
Ooouuuu finally some ⚽️!!
Who’s watching from Ireland 🇮🇪??!
WOW! THIS IS GOOD. This got me by surprise. Amazing (I know the history, I wasn't expecting to see it HERE. You guys are awesome)
Irish and I love this channel!
So surprised you guys did this Irish beef! Loved it great job
You guys should definitely keep making more football related videos. Your videos are really good and I guarantee that your channel will grow by a lot!
Nice! Love to see videos in numerous sports
A last dance esc documentary about Roy Keane would be phenomenal
Genuinely, and begrudgingly, you actually hit the nail on the head. Very concise
Nice to see yall do something on soccer. Dig deeper , theres many interesting stories to tell.
Usually come here for NBA content so was surprised to see Keane beef! From a United fan's perspective, this was great to see
Never thought I'd see an episode of beef history with a quote from Bertie Ahern but here we are
I love that you guys are doing another soccer video!
This has got to be my favourite series on CZcams 🙌🔥🔥
@shane long Come on g. Smash the championship this season
when Mike Ashley's gone, do a whole thing about him and Newcastle United
This aged quite well
SB Nation: I hope you got your episode prepared.
Tbh, you could say this about A LOT of sports franchise's owners and their club/fans. Daniel Levy and Spurs, The Glazers and Man U, it needs its own separate series
Say do one about the glazers so I can come back in a year happy
Perfect video for me. Love the channel, and I’m a huge United fan👍
finally an episode about soccer players and beef in soccer! PLEASE DO MORE!
Great stuff keep up the good work
Keane was SO keen on the field. A truly impressive career.
At first I read that as “Mike McCarthy” and was super confused
Let’s assume Keene has beef with him too
Bahahaha
Nicely put this 👍
great video, keep the association football content flowing guys
They would have won the quarter finals and the semi's, and will never know if Keane denied himself the honour of lifting the World Cup.
Its fate, he was destined to win the greatest honour ever, but that would have made him better player, person than Mick McCarthy, and even Keane knows his place.💛🖤🐺
Rewinder: 1999 Champions League Final
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes
Bro!!! So dope. Glad you got some soccer on here
Love these videos! Please give us a rewinder on United's treble in 1999!!!
keane was the definition of "no nonsense" lol Great video
I can't hear "Keane 'n McCarthy" without picturing an NFL receiver.
@Michael Harvey And Kel's best friend
7:20 OH MY GOD THEY HAD TO CARRY THEIR OWN LUGGAGE 🤣
The narration was really nice...some bits were really cheeky and fun
Full respect to Mick who left out a world class player, stuck to his guns and still made the semis
*Round of 16 shootout with a tournament favourite
@@imaratspal A tournament favorite?....Lol okay sure
@@imronburgundy69 Is that why they had the same odds as Brazil to win in 2002 by top bookmakers? I'm just making things up here, I guess, whatever you say is right simply because you said it.
@@imronburgundy69 Spain were definitely expected to do well. They were one of the top teams.
@@echiebai They would have beat South Korea had it not been to dodgy ref calls.
'Mick McCarthy an Irish soccer sensation' 😂
Big Mick must’ve written the script
Yesssss more football PLEASE
Well done mate, loved how you called him “keano” lovely touch
Finally another soccer-themed beef history!
Can we have Mauro Icardi vs Maxi Lopez next?
BRIAN CLOUGH and DON REVIE BEEF HISTORY!!! MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!
Liking this video before I've even watched it because not only is it soccer content, which I'd love to see more of from sb nation, but it's Irish soccer content. #COYBIG
This is the beef history I never knew I wanted until this moment.
Finally! A soccer video! Thanks guys!
yoooooo when we getting rewinder for the 91 world series?
We need a rewinder on Ronaldo's first goal in the 2002 World Cup Final or Grosso's penalty in the 2006 World Cup Final.
I hope these videos never end
yessss! you guys should do more beef in the football / soccer world
I’m not exactly sure what “I let them off the piss for two nights” means but I can’t deny it’s definitely Irish
"off on the piss" = drinking heavily
Roy Keane was a brilliant player but God can he be an awful analyst, genuinely all he says is "well they're not playing the United way"
He's the kind of bloke that, even when he has a point, has to put it across in the most aggressive way.
the dude who didn't like United & Liverpool players become buddy-buddy / lovey-dovey at tunnel pre-game ?
He’s one of the best analysts it’s people like you that love everyone hugging and kissing before a game
@@kyle-dt1vc Mate, they only do handshakes. Don't be silly now.
Why as he been voted best pundit then nob jockey
Another fine job, Clara!
I watched this vid even though I don't like soccer/football.
EPIC!!! Thank you SB Nation
When’s the Mariners part 7 dropping?
It's a 6 part series. There is no part 7.
2025
when jon bois admits he created coronavirus
when they lose to the Padres in Game 7 of the 2025 world series.
Nice to have an American take on this famous rivalry! Next: Messi vs Ronaldo
I don't think there has ever been outright beef between the two. However Messi fanboys vs Ronaldo fanboys would definitely be one worth doing
it's not really a personal rivalry like this and the others in the series, from all accounts Messi and Ronaldo get along very well. Now keane and Veira is one i'd watch
not really a rivalry as in beef
Long time SB Nation follower from Ireland. This is mental this is on here. Great, but hard to comprehend.
YESSS more football related content pls you have a lot of fans from England
" cmon keane, you cant acually curse out your boss" * looks up and watches video of Steve Austin stunning Vince Mcmahon then screaming in his face and flipping him the double birds while Vince is convulsing on the ground *
“Saying you respect the other guy is like pouring ketchup on a steak. It ruins the beef.”
Not for Patrick Mahomes.
@Alex Vratsanos He's the exception to that and a whole lotta other stuff
Ty Regehr the exception that proves the rule?
Damn, the commentary is incredibly enthusiastic and they clearly care about this topic.
This is a really good explainer of a long saga. Fair pay.
As beef History or Rivalry: All Blacks and Springboks
it'd be sick to have some rugby on here, but I can't really think of much beef tbh. the all blacks and springboks respect eachother so much I doubt it'd be that interesting besides the poison thing
Finn Frost-Jackson You make a great point! I’d would apply at SB Nation to make a rugby bed history video. I’d also add New South Wales and Queensland’s rivalry/beef
@@finnfrost-jackson139 You could do Quade Cooper vs the country of New Zealand, haha.
@@finnfrost-jackson139 they could do a beef history of world rugby vs rugby (sport) or rugby (fans)
YA LIKE BEEF
There is soooooo many extreme beefs in the world of Football..... Keep it up
Didn't know a thing about either of these guys, but really enjoyed this post.
You know it’s American when they say “zero zero” rather than “nil nil” and “tie” rather than “draw”
SB Nation, you need to make a "Mourinho vs Wenger beef" video. Priceless.
Been a fan of this show for a while, but never thought they’d do it on Ireland, and on my favourite player growing up
It made the news here that America was catching up to this beef 18yrs later.
Roy Keane is a langer but I'm proud to be from the same city as him and he's one of the greatest players/pundits out of Ireland ever.
Someone should do "the creation of SB nation deserves a deep rewind"
“Scoring twice in Ireland’s four nothing (4:0) win” 😂
Roy Jones vs Antonio Tarver or Bernard Hopkins beef history please! Love this channel & beef history!
I only went back to look at our 02 World Cup run the other day. Keane would have helped us beat Spain that day we were much the better side on the day but we lacked a leader. We conceded too often, usually first and Ian Harte missing that peno still keeps me awake at night. I was lucky enough to be in Landtowne when we beat Holland and Keane was magnificent, we were down to ten men too. Gary Kelly was sent off for nearly breaking Overmars' leg. I was also at McCarthy's last game against Switzerland. Crazy to think we went from being a stone's throw away from the World Cup quarter finals to being hopeless in the Euro qualifiers.
Steve Austin vs Vince McMahon next
I'd really like SB to cover something about the self destruction of the France football team in 2008. The mutiny, the failure to play that well and get good results, following their run to the World Cup final and 2nd world ranking.
In France, 2010 (the Knysna fiasco) is definitely remembered as a more traumatic episode that had a more lasting effect on the national team's credibility and ended several players' international careers.
rate this account, glad to see some football videos getting uploaded.
Now this is the soccer content we need
Love this channel, but please never use the word “scrimmage” on a football (soccer) video again 😂
KEEEEEAAAANOOOOOOO
Fire video
Roy Keane might be my new favorite person I just learned about
keane is nothing short of an absolute legend and im saying this as a massive liverpool fan
Yeas. More football beefs
I love Keane! Great band
CZcams algorithm, thank you. It’s an old video but I love the narrator