Chris Webber's beef with Don Nelson was a power struggle that ruined the Warriors

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2020
  • In 1993 Don Nelson and the Warriors put all their eggs in the Chris Webber basket. They gave up three first round picks to get him, and then loaded his contract with incentives including an opt-out clause.
    Nelson desperately needed a center, and he could make Webber play center. Did Webber want to play center for the Warriors? Well, no. But, c’mon, you had an outstanding, strong-willed player, and an outstanding, strong-willed coach teaming up! What could possibly go wrong? Egos colliding in an irreversible explosion with ramifications that lasted for years? Yep. You guessed it. If this beef were on a menu, it’d have three chili peppers next to it.
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Komentáře • 987

  • @JWex-jy7sk
    @JWex-jy7sk Před 3 lety +888

    When I hear the name “Don Nelson” all I can think about is how this guy is somewhere in Hawaii right now spending his retirement getting high as a kite on a weed farm

    • @thedistantprinceinyouremai6345
      @thedistantprinceinyouremai6345 Před 3 lety +52

      That sounds like the life

    • @jfayiii
      @jfayiii Před 3 lety +7

      1997 Mtw seen that, that’s a real lifestyle

    • @chrissams6230
      @chrissams6230 Před 3 lety +13

      Beautiful life

    • @donny2700
      @donny2700 Před 3 lety +20

      I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but I think Nelly has the right idea about retirement.

    • @dirkdilangalang1910
      @dirkdilangalang1910 Před 3 lety +13

      well the last time i saw him he was with Steve Nash during his HoF Speech, and he look like another Boss in the next John Wick movie,

  • @davidg3183
    @davidg3183 Před 3 lety +1494

    Y’all should make a beef history between Paul George and the playoffs

    • @charlesconner9044
      @charlesconner9044 Před 3 lety +49

      Playoff P= Pandemic P

    • @roncolem4558
      @roncolem4558 Před 3 lety +28

      Your wrong but so right😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @sostdm617
      @sostdm617 Před 3 lety +9

      LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😅

    • @lendellroberson5602
      @lendellroberson5602 Před 3 lety +3

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @chrisdadrilla
      @chrisdadrilla Před 3 lety +4

      TheTot Process Let’s see how long he can put up 25+ ppg in the playoffs then we’ll changed our thoughts on Pandemic P.

  • @itstaemonson
    @itstaemonson Před 3 lety +309

    “Apparently the third pick sucks”. Michael Jordan: “ok fine”

    • @jxytheone279
      @jxytheone279 Před 3 lety +42

      Also MJ: I took offense to that

    • @Firebert
      @Firebert Před 3 lety +25

      Luka: "ok fine"

    • @jpmnky
      @jpmnky Před 3 lety +20

      It's the SECOND pick that always sucks. The only exceptions are when the first picks are busts. Usually anyway. There's actually a good Andy Hoops or Mike Korzemba video about this very subject.

    • @RetepAdam
      @RetepAdam Před 3 lety

      Shawn Bradley: “ok f-well, yeah, okay.”

    • @Sai4651
      @Sai4651 Před 3 lety +8

      @@jpmnky 2019 draft class may change that trend. Zion & Ja are looking good, as long as Zion can lose some weight, he'll be a star.

  • @EdmacZ
    @EdmacZ Před 3 lety +441

    And I was in the middle of watching Webber’s beef history with Jalen Rose.

    • @jbug1979
      @jbug1979 Před 3 lety +36

      This beef reminded me that I want to see the Latrell Sprewell / PJ Carlesimo choking incident / beef.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jbug1979 True

    • @chrissams6230
      @chrissams6230 Před 3 lety +5

      jbugg Big FACTS I wanna hear all the details I was a kid when that went down and I’m 35...

    • @Abeja1225
      @Abeja1225 Před 3 lety +1

      I just watched the King's Collapse.

    • @bigdee77
      @bigdee77 Před 3 lety +12

      Seems Webber has beef with more than a few people/organizations...

  • @christopherliang6879
    @christopherliang6879 Před 2 lety +22

    Penny Hardaway and 3 picks and then you give him an opt-out after one season. Genius management right there

  • @TheGWII
    @TheGWII Před 3 lety +129

    This might be the best sports channel on CZcams. These mini documentaries are outstanding..

  • @superintelligentapefromthe121

    D'Antoni gets all the credit, but small ball doesn't happen without Nellie......

    • @chrisuncleahmad
      @chrisuncleahmad Před 3 lety +35

      Nellie was ahead of his time, but the NBA in his era was mostly based on centers and Winning with TallBall. Smallball back then was a gimmick and the NBA was basically a big man/front court league

    • @ShengYu1995
      @ShengYu1995 Před 3 lety +14

      Nellie never found success. The warriors were 7th seed at best during those years. He didnt revolutionalize anything. D'Antoni actually lead his teams from lottery to #1 seed. Thats diff impact

    • @superintelligentapefromthe121
      @superintelligentapefromthe121 Před 3 lety +19

      @@ShengYu1995 Nellie also coached the Bucks and the Mavs, who were both successful.

    • @georgewagner2352
      @georgewagner2352 Před 3 lety +16

      Small ball started with Red Auerbach, who Nellie played for. Russell was not a back to the basket center. EVERY SINGLE other center in the league was. Russell was not even the third option on offense. EVERY SINGLE other center in the league was the first or second option. Red and Russell let Sam Jones, Cousy, Havlicek, Nellie, Ramsey, and Heinsohn do all the scoring, and mostly from the perimeter. Yes, Nellie, D'Antoni and others expanded on it and of course today that' all they do. Red and Nellie used it to be different and because other teams weren’t used to defending it. Today it’s used because the centers (actually all the players) are SOFT and have zero post up skills, also because almost every player in the league just wants to shoot threes all game. It’s not original, creative or hard to defend because every team in the league is doing it. It's boring and unimaginative. In addition, due to the lack of physical defense, all small players can thrive now.

    • @ShengYu1995
      @ShengYu1995 Před 3 lety

      @@superintelligentapefromthe121 You dumbass, clearly I was talking about the Warriors given that the original post is about Warriors small ball in the 90s. Yes he had success with Mavs and Bucks but he didnt run small ball.

  • @aldotheraider2471
    @aldotheraider2471 Před 3 lety +302

    Beefs History: Knicks vs Bulls in 90’s, Phil Jackson vs Jerry Krause
    Shaq vs Kobe
    Michael Jordan vs Jerry Krause
    Kevin Garnett vs Ray Allen
    Detroit Pistons vs Indiana Pacers in Early 2000’s

    • @anthonyarena2889
      @anthonyarena2889 Před 3 lety +11

      They have KG And Allen along with Shaq and Kobe. But love the bulls idea

    • @aldotheraider2471
      @aldotheraider2471 Před 3 lety +3

      Anthony Arena I like Pistons vs Pacers in the Early 2000’s I think that one would be good and also Knicks vs Bulls in the 90’s

    • @sicilianjoe
      @sicilianjoe Před 3 lety +25

      Beef History: Jordan vs Krause
      *Produced, written, and approved by Team Jordan

    • @ImcognitoDre
      @ImcognitoDre Před 3 lety +5

      Beef History Marge Schott vs MLB

    • @quince8355
      @quince8355 Před 3 lety +1

      Aldo The Raider shaq vs Kobe would be amazing

  • @Ash-vy7hd
    @Ash-vy7hd Před 3 lety +288

    What a great Sunday, nothing like some beef in the morning. Wish us luck here in New Orleans with the double hurricane!

    • @drby0788
      @drby0788 Před 3 lety +10

      You guys have some bad luck down there man. Praying for you guys

    • @itsREALTALKTV
      @itsREALTALKTV Před 3 lety +2

      🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @Ash-vy7hd
      @Ash-vy7hd Před 3 lety

      drby0788 appreciate you broski 🙏🏽

    • @darrenaning930
      @darrenaning930 Před 3 lety +4

      Good luck bro 🙏🏿🙏🏿 praying theres Minimal or damage and everybody’s safe

    • @Ash-vy7hd
      @Ash-vy7hd Před 3 lety

      Darren Aning that’s love bro 💪🏽

  • @dejiadefuye2047
    @dejiadefuye2047 Před 3 lety +44

    Don Nelson, Shawn Bradley, Warriors....the Mavs fan in me is having PTSD

  • @jbug1979
    @jbug1979 Před 3 lety +243

    This beef reminded me that I want to see the Latrell Sprewell / PJ Carlesimo choking incident / beef. Please consider this an official request!

  • @gjslaughter
    @gjslaughter Před 3 lety +37

    As a warriors fan this brings up painful memories. That 12 year playoffs drought seemed like forever.

    • @75aces97
      @75aces97 Před 3 lety +8

      GSW did almost everything wrong from 1994-2003, and it was a rough stretch of years, but eventually they were the model franchise. Which shows to go ya that as bad as a team might be now, or has been in recent years, doesn't mean they will be forever.

    • @madrich3050
      @madrich3050 Před měsícem

      that was torment. webber to goog to donyell within 6 months. Owens to Seikaly to garbage Felton Spencer within 1 year. practically gave away Tim Hardaway , Latrell sprewell for scrubs. got Jamison, only to trade that cornerstone away and build around a role player Dunleavy Jr. Warriors fans were miserable during the We Suck Era.

  • @dbag3345
    @dbag3345 Před 3 lety +102

    Beef History: Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf vs the NBA.

  • @josephhanicak7922
    @josephhanicak7922 Před 3 lety +117

    Was Nelson trying to ruin Webber? Those aren't "tough coach" actions, that's harrasment.

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 Před 2 lety

      If you were dumb enough to think that's what he was trying to do.

    • @jacobwilliams1223
      @jacobwilliams1223 Před 2 lety +34

      @@MrOctober44 No it is blatantly what he was doing. Pointing at Webber and saying "this guy has all the money, this guy is the reason we are struggling" is not being a tough coach but making Webber the scapegoat and kicking him between the legs.

    • @blacknetsmed
      @blacknetsmed Před rokem +6

      ​@Chris P "He didn’t that with the Mavs"
      It's called living and learning. He was a Coach for 15+ years before he took the Mavs job; he was known excessive hard ass.
      Booster situation is nothing about nothing. Especially when looking at how idiotic those NCAA are.

  • @overthemoon8040
    @overthemoon8040 Před 3 lety +141

    Idea for a collapse: the Michael Vick led Falcons. High point being that NFC championship game in '04. After that though, Vick never again played a playoff game in Atlanta.

    • @ThatOneDude219
      @ThatOneDude219 Před 3 lety +5

      I remember when they went up to Green Bay and beat the Packers in the playoffs.

    • @jpmnky
      @jpmnky Před 3 lety +8

      Because he couldn't throw the ball accurately. Ever. And that "just take off and run" got old fast. In Philadelphia he really became a good quarterback.

    • @Bran-Da-Don
      @Bran-Da-Don Před 3 lety +7

      I'd like to think he would've become a good quarterback in Atlanta had he not got into trouble. On the other hand I think him going to prison made him very dedicated and serious TO become a better quarterback. We'll never know sadly.

    • @merlininthevoid2889
      @merlininthevoid2889 Před 3 lety +12

      Collapse: My life after High School

    • @ThatOneDude219
      @ThatOneDude219 Před 3 lety +4

      @@merlininthevoid2889 damn. Relatable

  • @Booster37
    @Booster37 Před 3 lety +49

    I don't put the blame on Webber. The franchise traded up for a player they didn't really want when they didn't really have the cap space and you're going to throw the rookie under the bus for the others not getting their bread? That's a low blow.

    • @pac12shorts90
      @pac12shorts90 Před 3 lety +7

      Facts

    • @bryanttisdale2446
      @bryanttisdale2446 Před 3 lety +15

      Preach!
      You Ruin Rookies when you blame them for losing seasons or count on them to be the savior .💯

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 lety +1

      Facts indeed

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 Před rokem +1

      They should have just been happy with z penny Hardaway and been done with it and Penny would have fit in nicely to the offense as someone who can run a fast paced offense

    • @tylerriley2587
      @tylerriley2587 Před rokem +1

      And then Shouting, "why did we draft you?" in front of fans that's a no-no

  • @42tribes
    @42tribes Před 3 lety +28

    I don't know how you just don't cope with Webber when you are already coaching half Drunk Chris Mullin and half crazy Latrell Sprewell.

    • @SmoothCriminal12
      @SmoothCriminal12 Před 3 lety

      I thought Mullin was clean by then.

    • @jswin2084
      @jswin2084 Před 3 lety

      Because a rookie usually doesn’t think he should be the one calling the shots. Webber thought this about himself

    • @42tribes
      @42tribes Před 3 lety +2

      @@SmoothCriminal12 nypost.com/2015/04/01/mullins-30-years-away-from-st-johns-full-of-twists-and-turns/
      Nelson actually helped him clean up.
      He said when he first arrived as head coach people told him how good Mullin was but he was an alcoholic and overweight.
      Shows how good Mullin was and how stiff 80s basketball was.

  • @muhammadbarokah81
    @muhammadbarokah81 Před 3 lety +43

    Chris Webber, SB Nation’s favorite athlete for content. I mean, he has another beef video and a Collapse

    • @MrOuchiez
      @MrOuchiez Před 3 lety +7

      Yep, and it's beyond boring. There are FAR more intriguing examples of conflict in sports.

    • @pandahammonds9590
      @pandahammonds9590 Před 3 lety +7

      I...I loved this though.

    • @selfishstockton6123
      @selfishstockton6123 Před 3 lety +1

      MrOuchiez No, he’s the ideal athlete for content

  • @lukapelevic7651
    @lukapelevic7651 Před 3 lety +65

    I can say one thing...
    IT'S ALL SHAWN BRADLEY'S FAULT.

  • @jazzbassoonpaul
    @jazzbassoonpaul Před 3 lety +75

    The Golden State Warriors could have an entire channel devoted to misery due to how many awful draft picks they had, awful seasons, awful injuries, awful coach hires, awful hopeless vibe. It’s a miracle that it all got turned around-now they are a model franchise. Truly amazing from a fan since 1973.

    • @jonjonbailey4314
      @jonjonbailey4314 Před 2 lety +2

      Me since Run TMC Oaktown n Tha house!!

    • @BrandonYoungMusic
      @BrandonYoungMusic Před 2 lety +4

      And then they drafted Steph, Klay and Dray and won 3 chips in 5 yrs

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 Před rokem +2

      It was Chris Cohen sucking & hitting incompetent morons to run franchise, also I hated the Joe Smith pick, I don’t like it when people say he was awesome in college
      But you couldn’t name one memorable moment (unless you think Sweet 16 is good enough), Garnett or even Rasheed Wallace was the correct
      Pick, Joe Smith should have been a second round pick for how mediocre he was (joy 12 points a game and someone Minn was stupid enough to try to pay under the table

    • @blancovich
      @blancovich Před rokem +2

      I agree!!! When they fired Mark Jackson, I thought they were crazy… and then Steve Kerr…

    • @MrZahsome
      @MrZahsome Před rokem +2

      ​@@BrandonYoungMusicThat totally erases how bad they were in the past right? Oh since we're talking about the present, they're a mediocre team right now too.

  • @beezy22
    @beezy22 Před 3 lety +38

    When Chris Webber was drafted by Orlando and then traded to Golden State in the 1993 NBA Draft, I’m thinking that team is gonna be heading toward greatness but after Webber and Nelson feuded in Golden state, Golden state wasn’t the same for years until Baron Davis Stephen Jackson Matt Barnes Don Nelson etc got the warriors back to the playoffs in 2007...

    • @melvynsngltn27
      @melvynsngltn27 Před 3 lety +1

      Drafted by Orlando

    • @allanhouston6759
      @allanhouston6759 Před 3 lety +2

      Chris Webber is the most underrated player of all time.

    • @beezy22
      @beezy22 Před 3 lety

      Melvyn Singleton my bad Webber was drafted by Orlando and traded to golden state...

  • @tainoman1998
    @tainoman1998 Před 3 lety +66

    I love hearing about other teams having problems, cause it makes me feel like there's actually hope for New York

    • @versatillion15
      @versatillion15 Před 3 lety +6

      Nope, no hope. Unless you mean the Yankees

    • @jasonallen3678
      @jasonallen3678 Před 2 lety

      😭

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 Před rokem

      As a warriors fan, getting rid of an incompetent owner was the key to the franchise turning, too bad your teams owner is a complete moron who is worst than Cohen

    • @brianlara6451
      @brianlara6451 Před rokem

      For real g. The dubs except for two seasons were horrible for 30 seasons up until 2010 or so. After Barry the 80’s 90’s and 2000’s the dubs were bad.

  • @dbreiden83080
    @dbreiden83080 Před 2 lety +6

    This is 1 of the reasons why owners started favoring players over coaches.. That coach better make the players happy and win.. In todays game ownership fires Nelly mid-season of Webbers rookie deal, and consults with Webber on the new coach..

  • @FadeAwayHov
    @FadeAwayHov Před 3 lety +82

    Shaq told the Orlando front office to draft penny

    • @AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw
      @AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw Před 3 lety +7

      Because of the movie

    • @Bran-Da-Don
      @Bran-Da-Don Před 3 lety +17

      To this day I can't understand how the Magic allowed Shaq to get away. That set them back 15 years.

    • @FadeAwayHov
      @FadeAwayHov Před 3 lety +8

      @@Bran-Da-Don they didn't bring in the right vets Horace grant cared more about beating the bulls than winning another ring and when you don't have the right vets around Young SUPER stars it will always go bad, but karma Is crazy cause Kobe got Shaq shipped out to Miami for the same reasons why Shaq left Orlando

    • @eyeconqueror1185
      @eyeconqueror1185 Před 3 lety +8

      @@Bran-Da-Don it didn't set them back 15 years. They were contenders again by 2008. What really set them back was the grant hill signing; they wouldve been contenders by 2001 if he were healthy alongside McGrady. now of course the terrible management since Dwight's departure.

    • @Bran-Da-Don
      @Bran-Da-Don Před 3 lety

      @@eyeconqueror1185 I remember that. They were supposed to get Duncan as well I believe but he backed out at the last minute. That would've been the first superteam.

  • @tylerriley2587
    @tylerriley2587 Před 2 lety +9

    In Conclusion: Don Nelson was in it for himself

  • @Guccibear100
    @Guccibear100 Před 3 lety +5

    Great story, I've never really been into the NBA and sadly I grew up in the 90s and missed some of the greatest. This channel is great for catching up on all things sports.

  • @ibefullofme
    @ibefullofme Před 3 lety +41

    Idk if taking money was that big of a mistake, other guys did, those guys deserve the money, but he shouldn't have lied about it.

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 Před 3 lety +2

      Why exactly did he deserve the money? Did he not make millions playing in the NBA?

    • @konkola3295
      @konkola3295 Před 3 lety +9

      @@roboninja3194 He wasn't in the NBA when he got that money...

    • @Ofallthings089
      @Ofallthings089 Před 3 lety +12

      Personally I think college players should be getting paid anyway. So I’m not bothered by it.

    • @SmoothCriminal12
      @SmoothCriminal12 Před 3 lety +8

      Yeah. If Webber had come clean immediately like Jalen Rose had, nobody would be talking about it now.

    • @jcaliberty8288
      @jcaliberty8288 Před 3 lety

      @@SmoothCriminal12 true

  • @McKildafor
    @McKildafor Před 3 lety +3

    A big we well done to to Clara! That was fantastically researched and put together. The narration was top notch👌

  • @apollosroman8784
    @apollosroman8784 Před 3 lety +14

    He's traded from GS and they dont make the playoffs for over a decade after. Brings the lowly Bullet/Wizards to the playoffs and comes close to finishing the Jordan Bulls (twice, i think) then makes the Kings into a title contender. Webber is underrated.

    • @najachero1384
      @najachero1384 Před 3 lety +4

      The Bullets played the Bulls once in the play offs and got swept in the first round. Just saying.

    • @allanhouston6759
      @allanhouston6759 Před 3 lety

      JORDAN = Drop 55 points on Chris Webber.

  • @demaszstyo9644
    @demaszstyo9644 Před 3 lety +128

    Collapse idea: Atlanta Hawks 2015 after they reached East Finals

    • @davemathew
      @davemathew Před 3 lety +18

      U have 2 rise b4 a collapse...

    • @marcusmcgraw3519
      @marcusmcgraw3519 Před 3 lety +4

      Dave Mathew lol yup. Collapse is usually reserved for teams that actually went somewhere

    • @paperhag
      @paperhag Před 3 lety

      Why? Everyone knows Mike Buttholder is just a regular season coach.

    • @LanceVance81
      @LanceVance81 Před 3 lety +5

      "Collapse" should be reserved for great teams. Hawks had a great record that year but the team was nothing special. They wouldve been swept in the 1st round by most the teams in the West that year.

    • @bmon85ify
      @bmon85ify Před 3 lety

      @@LanceVance81 they won 19 in a row at one point

  • @brianbairos4111
    @brianbairos4111 Před 3 lety +9

    That '95 Warriors team will always be a great "what if?"

    • @AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw
      @AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw Před 3 lety +4

      Indeed... there were the kings before Sacramento in 2000... Timmy, Mully, Spree, C-Webb, Ronny.... and Ricky Pierce as sixth man

  • @FingeringThings
    @FingeringThings Před 3 lety +76

    If Webber balled out like he was suppose to, he and Sprewell could've went far in 1994

    • @MrHam-sk3kr
      @MrHam-sk3kr Před 3 lety

      Why do I see your comments on literally every single video I watch

    • @hesnotquitedead
      @hesnotquitedead Před 3 lety

      This Is My Username He’s trying to be the next Justin Y.

    • @marcusmcgraw3519
      @marcusmcgraw3519 Před 3 lety +19

      He did ball out, his coach just ruined it for them

    • @LanceVance81
      @LanceVance81 Před 3 lety +9

      Far to the 2nd round but nothing past that. The West was deep back then just like today.

    • @Manny-nm8dh
      @Manny-nm8dh Před 3 lety +3

      @@LanceVance81 I don't see them getting past Utah, Houston or Seattle back then.

  • @blazer6248
    @blazer6248 Před 3 lety +8

    C Webb was a beast at Sacramento. NBA Live 05 was a hell of a game with them. Just wish my best friend, Jeremy Dewayne Owens, were still here to see how it ended. Lost him in '06 to complications from Sickle Cell disease. Miss you, my brother. Every day 🙏❤️😥

  • @vukzdravkovic9462
    @vukzdravkovic9462 Před 3 lety +15

    I think a great team to cover in your collapse series is the 2012-present orlando magic, and how the decisions they made set them back quite a lot(oladipo for ibaka and stuff like that)

  • @GhostR8r
    @GhostR8r Před 3 lety +1

    More great work, thank you! People think Warrior fans just popped up in the last 6 years...the Webber/Hardaway/Sprewell trades still hurt.

  • @abryan7969
    @abryan7969 Před 3 lety +4

    Good vid love them

  • @chrisuncleahmad
    @chrisuncleahmad Před 3 lety +8

    Reminder idea: Robert Horry Game 5 2005 NBA Finals

  • @sibaselects8672
    @sibaselects8672 Před 3 lety

    Great vid👏👏👏👏

  • @hc9372
    @hc9372 Před 3 lety +1

    Clara Morris is one of my favorite people to listen to, to talk about sports. She needs a primetime sports talk show on ESPN or something haha

  • @DanUCMan
    @DanUCMan Před 3 lety +5

    With the college career and hype behind Webber, I won't suprised Shaq didn't want him in Orlando as Webber might show him up or at least try to make the team revolve around him which Shaq didn't want either way. Penny complimented Shaq's game and was happy to be the Robin to Shaq's Batman. Shaq has said on a number of occasions that he wanted 28ppg first then was happy for the rest of the team to "get theirs". I can't imagine Webbers ego would of been happy with that.

    • @SmoothCriminal12
      @SmoothCriminal12 Před 3 lety +2

      And then Shaq gets pissy that Penny is getting more attention and leaves him for Kobe... Feel sorry for Penny.

    • @rollinstonemoula9689
      @rollinstonemoula9689 Před 2 lety

      They both played on tha low block.. Tha Magic needed a PG

  • @mg19cal
    @mg19cal Před 3 lety +7

    Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiit, after all this, I'm surprised Webber didn't go off on Nellie the way Sprewell did Carlesimo

  • @johnplamann726
    @johnplamann726 Před 3 lety

    Great content as always

  • @SlipperyGoulet
    @SlipperyGoulet Před 3 lety

    Whoa! Great episode selection!!

  • @shawnwilliam1802
    @shawnwilliam1802 Před 3 lety +17

    I was a ball boy for the warriors back then & Nellie was trash. The GM sided with a .500 coach over a potential Hall of Famer. Spree & Webber had a stronger future than Timmy & Nellie.

  • @AwkoTwaco
    @AwkoTwaco Před 3 lety +13

    Need that scottie pippen/jordan vs isiah thomas beef

    • @dbag3345
      @dbag3345 Před 3 lety +4

      Have you not seen the last dance?

  • @mikecookboxing
    @mikecookboxing Před 3 lety +1

    Roy Jones vs Antonio Tarver or Bernard Hopkins beef history please! Love this channel & beef history!

  • @repliczz
    @repliczz Před 2 lety

    I really like hearing Clara's voice, so soothing. keep it up!

  • @pac12shorts90
    @pac12shorts90 Před 3 lety +54

    Rewinder idea: Andy Dalton pass to break the Bills playoff drought

    • @jaxonmontgomery1168
      @jaxonmontgomery1168 Před 3 lety +6

      And the relationship between the bengals and bills afterwards. It is a fun game to watch every year because they love eachother and they give eachother players

    • @pac12shorts90
      @pac12shorts90 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jaxonmontgomery1168 Yeah

    • @Zilla702Killa
      @Zilla702Killa Před 3 lety

      Pass for the 2nd video in a roll.

    • @charlesconner9044
      @charlesconner9044 Před 3 lety

      As a Ravens fan...please god no

  • @alexanderwright8275
    @alexanderwright8275 Před 3 lety +7

    my high school coach got really made at us when we would put our hands on our knees to catch our breath because it's bad for airflow or whatever. Apparently that is what Webber did all the time and our coach would tell us to quite doing the chris webber and would make us run more if we did

  • @guccimaneth5
    @guccimaneth5 Před 3 lety +1

    Her voice gets me thru work i swear she is amazing with her narration

  • @DiscoHank
    @DiscoHank Před 3 lety +6

    The most hurtful moment in my time as a Warriors fan, the Mitch Richmond trade was close but we still went to the playoffs after that trade, but this just sent the organization into a tailspin. Sprewells choke out of Carlisimo followed.

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 Před rokem

      I hated that year and Mitch was my favorite player during this time and they traded him for Billy Owens, barf, they guy was a mediocre in college and mediocre in the pros

  • @SportsSpeak73
    @SportsSpeak73 Před 3 lety +33

    Shawn Bradley or Chris Webber. In hindsight (actually, even in real time) that comparison seems absurd

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 lety +1

      Facts sheesh

    • @imightbebiased9311
      @imightbebiased9311 Před 3 lety +6

      But seriously, can you imagine Webber and Shaq in Orlando? I think that might have actually changed the course of basketball history.

    • @sbaugous
      @sbaugous Před 3 lety

      @@imightbebiased9311 maybe phil jackson doesn't get a 3rd three peat?

    • @mopjames464
      @mopjames464 Před 3 lety

      Nah Shaq would've left regardless

    • @freeflare6338
      @freeflare6338 Před 3 lety +1

      Bradley was a pretty decent center for quite some time. And the Warriors wanted a center. Might have worked out better for them.

  • @rude5059
    @rude5059 Před 3 lety +5

    Clara Morris has been doing an outstanding job with these beef histories. Keep it up!

  • @roc2eazy
    @roc2eazy Před 3 lety

    This channel is 🔥

  • @MF-jy2ve
    @MF-jy2ve Před 3 lety +2

    Here we go!

  • @chrisvas65
    @chrisvas65 Před 3 lety +47

    Anyone else notice Webber talks toooooo damn much on 2k

    • @TheOnlyMJS
      @TheOnlyMJS Před 3 lety +9

      Bro, Yes. On NBA 2K17. The guy legit went off topic and I was like this game is too damn accurate. Like i could not care less so its TOO REAL. 😂😂😂

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 lety +1

      Great commentary really

    • @Riles3152
      @Riles3152 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s not as bad as Bill Simmons rambling tangents

    • @chrisvas65
      @chrisvas65 Před 3 lety

      @@Riles3152 haha true

  • @Riles3152
    @Riles3152 Před 3 lety +3

    What's kind of ironic is that both Webber and Nelson were probably more alike than they were different. Both were 2 of the most talented ever in there respective field. Both won at some point wherever they went though never a championship (Webber and the kings should have and probably would have in 02 but thats another conversation) and both had complicated personalities. With that said, that owner made a historic mistake. I would have Kept Webb and got rid of Nelson.

  • @MatthewDoel32
    @MatthewDoel32 Před 3 lety +2

    Beef History ideas:
    Bobby Knight vs Indiana
    Joe Gomez vs Raheem Sterling
    29 MLB teams vs Rob Manfred and the Houston Asterisks

    • @broaddusmarines
      @broaddusmarines Před 3 lety

      Matthew Doel: I’m an IU fan to the core and I’m really torn about him. Bobby Knight probably has the greatest basketball mind to ever walk the planet. He basically won championships with Isiah Thomas and a bunch of midwestern farmboys.
      That being said, he was/is a miserable human being, a narcissist, and a bully. He probably knows it too.
      His comment about “if you’re getting raped, you might as well lay back and enjoy it” should have gotten him fired on the spot.
      IU tolerated his BS because he was still hanging National Championship and Big Ten Championship banners and he had a cult-like following in the state of Indiana.
      But yeah, in retrospect, Bobby Knight should have been fired about ten years before he actually was.
      In the end, both Bobby Knight as well as Indiana University lost.

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 Před 2 lety

    Heavy
    Ps Much Gratitude

  • @ommurg5059
    @ommurg5059 Před 3 lety +32

    I'm a simple bot, I go to new videos and say "I'm a simple man, I see X, I click."

  • @juancena6432
    @juancena6432 Před 3 lety +5

    I don’t watch basketball, or even know the rules, but this series is so good ☺️

  • @briankrosky3567
    @briankrosky3567 Před 3 lety

    Can’t wait to watch one of these in fifteen years about the 2017-2020 76ers.

  • @jeremymccommons7741
    @jeremymccommons7741 Před 3 lety +2

    Ideas!
    Rewinder: ‘04 ALCS game 4 or 5
    Collapse: ‘08 Phillies

  • @johnl.7754
    @johnl.7754 Před 3 lety +11

    Well it still better then drafting Bradley:-)

  • @TheLocalLt
    @TheLocalLt Před 3 lety +7

    Where are all the original hosts? Feel like this woman does every video now

  • @1neOfN0ne
    @1neOfN0ne Před 3 lety +1

    I really hope you one day make a beef history with Ben Simmons and Jump Shots. Cause here in Philly, we've been ripping our hair out for years trying to understand why and/or how those two have been avoiding each other on the court for this long

  • @thebrowncrew
    @thebrowncrew Před 2 lety

    More Clara Morris!

  • @kalikid3198
    @kalikid3198 Před 3 lety +13

    What would have happened if they chose Webber over nelly?

    • @GTR24
      @GTR24 Před 3 lety +2

      we would have missed out on that beautiful King's basketball

  • @JJ-iq5cv
    @JJ-iq5cv Před 2 lety +12

    As a Warriors fan, I never forgave Nelson. This video downplayed how huge Webber was in college - the leader of the Fab Five

    • @aaronst.pierre3080
      @aaronst.pierre3080 Před rokem

      Who lost them the title because he lacked in-game awareness.

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 Před rokem +12

      @@aaronst.pierre3080 except you can see his teammates yelling at him to call a time out and I also blame Steve Fisher for not being better prepared to beat a team they were more talented than (

  • @DG-BB
    @DG-BB Před 3 lety

    Clara Morris is the best at writing and reading these "Beef" scripts.

  • @justalittlebitmo
    @justalittlebitmo Před 3 lety +2

    I love when Clara does these. So good.

  • @johnstjohn1987
    @johnstjohn1987 Před 3 lety +14

    Can we get a Aaron Rodgers vs Mike McCarthy Beef episode? Been asking for months!

    • @overthemoon8040
      @overthemoon8040 Před 3 lety

      There is still a chance for more to develop here, I'd think it's too soon to make a video!

    • @musyarofah1
      @musyarofah1 Před 3 lety

      Too soon

    • @bye9360
      @bye9360 Před 3 lety +1

      Aaron Rodgers vs Olivia Nunn!!

  • @thomaspark1356
    @thomaspark1356 Před 3 lety +4

    I've never heard once that anybody including Don Nelson and the Warriors organization or any organization valuing Shawn Bradley over Chris Webber. Even before Shawn Bradley was deemed a bust, Chris Webber was above him in every draft board across the league. The Warriors having to settle for Chris Webber simply didn't happen under all circumstances.

    • @gpk724
      @gpk724 Před 2 lety +1

      I was confused about that myself. If the Warriors/Nelson wanted Bradley so badly, why didn’t they just take him/have the Magic take him #1? The only thing stopping them from getting Bradley was the Sixers at #2 and they just leapfrogged them. It doesn’t make any sense unless they valued Webber more than Bradley.

    • @sammycampbell1654
      @sammycampbell1654 Před 2 lety

      Nelson was head over heels for Bradley.
      One of his first moves after coming to Dallas was trading for him (I think it was the Mashburn trade?).... he was hell bent on building around Bradley, and Bradley finally breaking through and being an elite center.
      Shawn Bradley owes Don Nelson a lot. Without Nelson's man crush, Bradley is out of the league after the 96-97 season. Instead he played 8 more years, mostly because Nelson convinced Cuban that "this is the big man we need" like Obi Wan Kenobi. The Mavs were stuck with Bradley and an albatross of a salary bigger than the Morman big man.

    • @sammycampbell1654
      @sammycampbell1654 Před 2 lety

      @@gpk724 Orlando wouldn't trade the pick. Trade didn't go down till after Philly had already taken Bradley at 2 and the Warriors were already on the clock.
      The real question is, with Bradley off the board, why did Nelson give up Penny (pick 3) and 3 more future first rounders for Webber?

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 Před rokem

      Shawn Bradley should have never been taken in first round, he was nothing special at BYU, and he was built like Chet, only without much skill besides blocking shots and being on way too many posters being dunked on, and being probably the most un-fun teammate… I never got why teams thought that beam pole was anything special and he would have not fit into the Warriors fast paced offense as he also had not athleticism

  • @TheGlyde18
    @TheGlyde18 Před 3 lety +7

    You can practically hear her have an evil smile at 5:12

  • @JacksonBetta
    @JacksonBetta Před 3 lety +1

    These beef videos are so good. Especially the commentators. Some entertaining stuff!

  • @elliotthowarth6718
    @elliotthowarth6718 Před 3 lety +19

    We want Beef History: the NY Knicks vs the NBA Draft Lottery

    • @MrSpeed-lt8gr
      @MrSpeed-lt8gr Před 3 lety

      Don’t forget to include the freezer that held the lottery envelope so it was ice cold when Stern grabbed it!

    • @upabittoolate
      @upabittoolate Před 2 lety +1

      What's beef? Ben Simmons against his own jumpshot

  • @keithharper1470
    @keithharper1470 Před 3 lety +20

    Nelson was a snake with those moves
    Wrong coach got choked

  • @carlbd
    @carlbd Před 3 lety +1

    When she says that the team looked good on paper, then immediately get a paper towel ad... I see you CZcams 😂

  • @iankorapatti7972
    @iankorapatti7972 Před 3 lety

    Do a rewinder for either “the drive” in 1984 or “the fumble” in 1985!!

  • @ChicagoMadePunk09
    @ChicagoMadePunk09 Před 3 lety +16

    Chris Webber, man. Dude could absolutely not catch a break

    • @natecruz7114
      @natecruz7114 Před 3 lety +13

      Did it to himself honestly. Terrible personality

    • @gobot581
      @gobot581 Před 3 lety +8

      Nate Cruz some of the blame but treating the future of your franchise like that just isn’t acceptable he had a personal grudge at a point if it’s just criticizing my game it’s ok you start talking about my pockets we are both men at that point it’s not player coach

  • @shrihithtalapaneni9227
    @shrihithtalapaneni9227 Před 3 lety +6

    Don Nelson is a hall of fame coach and one of the greatest. Chris Webber is one of the greatest underachievers.

    • @broaddusmarines
      @broaddusmarines Před 3 lety +2

      Wrong!!! Don Nelson was an underachiever. He had some loaded teams in the 80s and couldn’t even sniff an NBA Final.
      He was good with gimmicky teams, but didn’t know what to do with NBA championship talent while at Milwaukee.
      I bet Larry Brown could have went to the finals at least twice with the talent Don Nelson had.
      Chris Weber had a decent career and is probably one of the ten best power forwards in NBA history.
      Where would you rank Don Nelson all time as a coach? He doesn’t even come to mind as a coach at all to me.

    • @renzocabarco472
      @renzocabarco472 Před 3 lety

      They both good but underachieved

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 Před 3 lety

      @@broaddusmarines Facts

  • @LeafyPeach
    @LeafyPeach Před 2 lety

    Nice commentator, such a calming voice!

  • @hitmanchris
    @hitmanchris Před 3 lety +2

    As a Sixer's fan like I never understand why/what was so amazing about Shaun F'n Bradley.

  • @aablubleble
    @aablubleble Před 3 lety +14

    Beef history: Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart

  • @ItsDraag
    @ItsDraag Před 3 lety +4

    I do miss Seth doing this but great video

  • @blancovich
    @blancovich Před rokem

    Really awesome thanks!!! This article displayed Weber’s side of the story much better than what was said at the time. I still think he made a HORRIBLE mistake by leaving Golden State (but that is just my very humble opinion). I see him this day (as a commentator) and feel some frustration for all that could have been and was not…

  • @goldenstatewarriors9418
    @goldenstatewarriors9418 Před 2 lety +1

    5:25 Behind the back pass that was intercepted, huh? Wouldn't be the last time that happened to the Warriors (you know what I'm talking about).

  • @calvinjluther
    @calvinjluther Před 3 lety +3

    Don Nelson, as I recall, owns Iowa's largest wildlife preserve.

  • @bruinsfan808
    @bruinsfan808 Před 3 lety +9

    You all should rewind the Men's 4x100 Freestyle Relay from the 2008 Olympics. One of the biggest comebacks ever.

  • @garfieldburke2820
    @garfieldburke2820 Před 3 lety +2

    Do a beef history with latrell sprewell and pj carlsimo

  • @jona.scholt4362
    @jona.scholt4362 Před 3 lety +2

    Nelson mortgages the franchise's future to draft Webber and then proceeds to insult and alienate him. This man is a genius.... right? It's gotta be some super strategy us small-minded plebians are incapable of understanding!

  • @SanFranFan30
    @SanFranFan30 Před 3 lety +32

    Well hey it inadvertently resulted in the Steph Curry Warriors dynasty

    • @SecretBaseSBN
      @SecretBaseSBN  Před 3 lety +15

      always looking on the bright side

    • @DamTheKid
      @DamTheKid Před 3 lety +1

      Can't delete old comment, sry didn't know you were in the special olympics sff. My bad

    • @SanFranFan30
      @SanFranFan30 Před 3 lety

      @@DamTheKid what are you talking about dude

    • @DamTheKid
      @DamTheKid Před 3 lety +1

      God damnit sff, stop flailing about. You aren't playing in a sandbox you are just rolling about in a pile of your own turds with your eyes closed

    • @willcasey8662
      @willcasey8662 Před 3 lety +8

      @@DamTheKid dawg are you good

  • @oliverdennis3115
    @oliverdennis3115 Před 3 lety +16

    I just saw a hornets fan in the comments, I’m so sorry for the existence of your relationship with the Charlotte Hornets.

  • @bpar73
    @bpar73 Před 3 lety

    Crazy how many careers come full circle.

  • @ronque23
    @ronque23 Před rokem

    Webber had some great years with the Kings. Those teams were fun to watch, despite nevr being able to get past the Lakers. But imagine if Don Nelson had just a little bit of chill with that squad. Damn.

  • @pandoralover21
    @pandoralover21 Před 3 lety +7

    Could we get a rewinder of the 91 World Series?!

  • @Yutbr800
    @Yutbr800 Před 3 lety +3

    Nelson killed it. The Dubs would have made noise if Webber would have stayed. We had a squad.
    PF-Webber
    SF- Sprewell
    SG-Mullin
    PG-Hardaway

  • @goblue193
    @goblue193 Před 3 lety +1

    Webber was the most talented PF I've ever seen. Unfortunately injuries, bad luck, and off court issues hampered his legacy.

  • @T.H.E.O.R.Y.
    @T.H.E.O.R.Y. Před 3 lety

    Liked, and disappointed that I didn't get the notification!!!

  • @ThatOneDude219
    @ThatOneDude219 Před 3 lety +4

    Beef History: Randall Simon and the Italian Sausage