Chris Webber’s ongoing beef with Jalen Rose has kept Michigan’s legendary “Fab Five” from reuniting

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  • Chris Webber and Jalen Rose were recruiting rivals growing up in Detroit, but that didn't stop them from being close friends. They were so close, in fact, that Rose followed Webber to the University of Michigan, joining a legendary 1991 recruiting class that came to be known as "The Fab Five." Those five guys revolutionized college basketball and won a whole lot of games, but lost both their trips to the NCAA Final. The second of those losses came after Webber's infamous timeout call. And all those wins? They've been vacated because of a sprawling scandal that included a booster, a gambling ring, and payouts to a number of Wolverines players, including Webber.
    So the "Fab Five" legacy is complicated, in large part because of Webber's mistakes. And that fact has fueled decades of beef between the former best friends. Webber has come across as sensitive and standoffish about his past, while Rose has perhaps been too aggressive in pushing Webber to apologize for his past. This beef between them has showed in TV programs, documentaries, and books, and it's only gotten worse.
    This episode of Beef History tells the tale of a friendship turned feud, with the hope that airing things out might help put the "Fab Five" and their legacy back where they ought to be: together, and prominent in Michigan history.
    Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
    Shot and edited by Ryan Simmons
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  • @williammurphy4519
    @williammurphy4519 Před 2 lety +428

    Chris Webber to Mitch Albom "They are getting $85 dollars for a Jersey with my name on it and I can't afford to get a pizza". The NCAA is the true antagonist in this story.

    • @imarriedabrkfsttaco3737
      @imarriedabrkfsttaco3737 Před 2 lety +31

      The school and all involved reaped 10's of millions of dollars marketing The Fab Five yet the players weren't compensated at all. Just their scholarships really.

    • @1D4ever
      @1D4ever Před rokem +8

      Exactly I couldn't care less if Chris had the M for Michigan in his pocket.

    • @hunterwade9030
      @hunterwade9030 Před rokem +1

      And now College sports are broken so good job

    • @fredthompson1387
      @fredthompson1387 Před rokem +10

      Chris Webber came from a middle class Family, Father worked for auto manufacturer and Mother was a school teacher. Loved to portray himself as coming from the ghetto. That wasn't true. He could afford a pizza

    • @Rusty-ev3mm
      @Rusty-ev3mm Před rokem

      The University of Michigan is the true antagonist. They were knowingly letting a criminal launder illegal money through their basketball program to get high level players. Ed Martin got all that money from an illegal gambling operation that he conducted at Ford auto plants. To launder the money he made, he'd entice high level recruits with the promise of money, then when they did play for Michigan, he'd loan them hundreds of thousands of dollars with the intent they'd pay him back after going pro.

  • @RobertDGordon
    @RobertDGordon Před 5 lety +1023

    Even their hairlines still beefing... neither one is backing up.

  • @MaverickZ007
    @MaverickZ007 Před 4 lety +597

    To Quote Charles Barkley " everythings cool until the BOOK comes out"

    • @victorwilliams1167
      @victorwilliams1167 Před 4 lety +9

      No one can Prove a Lie & Yahshua is the WAY the TRUTH & The Life ( John 14 : 6 )

    • @a.n4524
      @a.n4524 Před 4 lety +7

      @@victorwilliams1167 The bible is a book of contradiction, check out the one message foundation.

    • @waldo-ot6ul
      @waldo-ot6ul Před 3 lety +15

      @@a.n4524 i really think you need to do more research on false accusations

    • @larryparham2726
      @larryparham2726 Před 3 lety +1

      @@waldo-ot6ul amen people always darken counsel without knowledge not knowing an account will be given

  • @cflo1386
    @cflo1386 Před 5 lety +2486

    Colin Cowherd vs marriages please

    • @Juice-ig3jz
      @Juice-ig3jz Před 4 lety +26

      😂😂😂

    • @maebell7109
      @maebell7109 Před 4 lety +9

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ethanthompson2411
      @ethanthompson2411 Před 4 lety +8

      Damn 😂😂😂

    • @yell0wberry
      @yell0wberry Před 4 lety +30

      JL I don't think he likes Stephen a Smith too much, but he's definitely scared to death of Jim Rome for some odd reason

    • @pawrestlingchamp
      @pawrestlingchamp Před 4 lety +27

      john jones Jim Rome hasn’t been relevant in a decade. Does he still work for ESPN?

  • @egyptianexcellence8861
    @egyptianexcellence8861 Před 5 lety +4287

    Scottie Pippen vs Isiah Thomas PLEASE.

    • @jebkush1052
      @jebkush1052 Před 5 lety +38

      Hmmm honestly didn't know about this one

    • @egyptianexcellence8861
      @egyptianexcellence8861 Před 5 lety +152

      Jeb Kush it’s. Still. Going. LOL

    • @smokesletsgo8180
      @smokesletsgo8180 Před 5 lety +158

      I've been trying to get that or Michael Jordan vs Isaiah Thomas but sb nation hates that topic I guess

    • @two4eight62
      @two4eight62 Před 5 lety +46

      How about Isiah vs Mike

    • @two4eight62
      @two4eight62 Před 5 lety +32

      Either way I'm into it. Maybe it's better to do Pippen Isiah and then there can be a Jordan section.

  • @LGib01
    @LGib01 Před 5 lety +1651

    Bill Simmons vs ESPN?
    Jalen Rose vs the # 81?
    Sports fans vs Molly Qerim?

    • @3headachesNOW
      @3headachesNOW Před 5 lety +7

      Black Mamba nightmares

    • @casinotee9987
      @casinotee9987 Před 5 lety +57

      I'll take care of molly for yall sports fanatics🍆🍆🥊🥊😍😍😎😎

    • @persianOUTKAST
      @persianOUTKAST Před 5 lety +10

      Jalen already did a funny video about the 81 scored on him.
      it was a few years back, on the now defunct *Grantland* channel, w/ David Jacoby.
      it was part of their *"Jalen & Jacoby"* show, called *"Story Time w/ Jalen Rose"* .
      *ESPN:* czcams.com/video/JdXXdXReIJQ/video.html
      *_note:_* since *ESPN* has all the video/content rights of *Grantland* , i think they might've shortened the video linked above & made it more family friendly (& less _in your face_ ) then the video originally was.

    • @mickeyfrancese4775
      @mickeyfrancese4775 Před 5 lety +2

      Bahaha lmao @ "Jalen v 81" 😂😂😂

    • @melanatedgod5337
      @melanatedgod5337 Před 5 lety +4

      I'm for the latter! I hate that trick!!!

  • @JohnDoe-ec4fj
    @JohnDoe-ec4fj Před 4 lety +198

    Damn, Rob Pelinka be in the middle of everything lol.

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 5 lety +921

    Jalen and Chris need to have sit down conversation one on one like IT and Magic did

    • @lnapjr76
      @lnapjr76 Před 4 lety +94

      That would be top three all-time.
      1) Magic and Isaiah
      2) Kobe and Shaq
      3) Jalen and Chris
      The first two have happened and were great. We need to get that 3rd conversation.

    • @ikejay
      @ikejay Před 4 lety +4

      Word because I like both of them off the court. I like Chris more though on and off the court

    • @Dud512
      @Dud512 Před 4 lety +7

      Id love to see a Players Only between Chris and Jalen

    • @jakelang806
      @jakelang806 Před 4 lety +14

      Same with J Kidd, Jim Jackson and Jamal Mashburn.

    • @jakelang806
      @jakelang806 Před 4 lety +11

      shoot so do Mike and Chuck.

  • @SerjEpic
    @SerjEpic Před 5 lety +1991

    Next Beef History Enes Kanter vs the Turkish Government

    • @Fj3
      @Fj3 Před 5 lety +23

      Hey, @SB Nation, look at this!

    • @trevorharmon1
      @trevorharmon1 Před 4 lety +45

      Turkey kills thousands of political dissidents

    • @bigstupidgrin
      @bigstupidgrin Před 4 lety +3

      too real

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 Před 4 lety +37

      @@trevorharmon1 which is why kanter is a bad ass.

    • @corteneylove7699
      @corteneylove7699 Před 4 lety +13

      That’ll actually make a good documentary lol

  • @skill14
    @skill14 Před 4 měsíci +24

    I just flipped the tv and saw the Fab Five reunited at the Michigan game for the first time and immediately thought of this vid. Lol

  • @theophilusjones6024
    @theophilusjones6024 Před 4 měsíci +15

    The beef is over! The Michigan Fav 5 reunited in Michigan for the first time since 93… we need some kind of video by Seth or Clara 👀👀

  • @jetblackfox
    @jetblackfox Před 5 lety +201

    That was simply a perfect encapsulation of the nature of the beef that most of us basketball fans didn't even fully understand. It's all personality driven and these two brothers should take the example of Magic and Isiah and squash the beef publicly.

    • @RapOvrDos
      @RapOvrDos Před 4 lety +8

      JB Fox Webb gotta admit he was wrong tho

    • @centerwarren
      @centerwarren Před 3 lety +20

      Mr Rose is a sale out. Instead of using his notoriety to show how harsh the penalty was. He promotes Mr Webber as the villain. I wouldn’t take to his ___ either.

    • @pistolpete3199
      @pistolpete3199 Před rokem

      Why it gotta be public?

    • @1D4ever
      @1D4ever Před rokem

      @@centerwarren I agree

  • @ToumapassarZEZOCA
    @ToumapassarZEZOCA Před 5 lety +1386

    This is one of the best videos you've ever made. Amazing

    • @bwen18
      @bwen18 Před 5 lety +2

      I felt the same and was going to make a post similar to yours until I saw your post

    • @mikevargas4343
      @mikevargas4343 Před 5 lety +5

      So Amazing and so sad...I don't know them personally but I'm rooting for them to get along to form the Fab 🖐 again...

    • @luckyspurs
      @luckyspurs Před 5 lety +3

      @@bwen18 Understandable that the best player, Webber, wants to separate himself from his twice defeated college team.

    • @cs1458
      @cs1458 Před 5 lety +6

      Right? I had to keep rewinding (heh) because it's packed with good stuff.

    • @RADIO1990
      @RADIO1990 Před 5 lety +1

      I just " discovered" this page, but I agree,this is a good video.

  • @gabrielmejia6567
    @gabrielmejia6567 Před 5 lety +766

    Ray Allen vs KG and the Celtics

    • @lomthemotto
      @lomthemotto Před 5 lety +18

      Gabriel Mejia you mean rondo

    • @leesnips2692
      @leesnips2692 Před 5 lety +3

      ^^ Kg vs Ray Allen is gonna be good I feel it

    • @soldierbreed
      @soldierbreed Před 5 lety

      Ive heard that one to death please no

    • @ShifuCareaga
      @ShifuCareaga Před 5 lety

      doesn't everyone know this though?

    • @6aliph77
      @6aliph77 Před 5 lety +1

      Ray vs rhondo or ray vs Paul Peirce

  • @brandonkeisler86
    @brandonkeisler86 Před 5 lety +618

    I love seeing Reggie sitting next to Web when he's talking about Jalen. Just look at his face, he ain't hearing that.

    • @airving
      @airving Před 5 lety +133

      Yeah because he knows playing with Jalen is that he is an honest guy.

    • @jonmcclane7433
      @jonmcclane7433 Před 5 lety +51

      Yes!!! I thought the exact same thing

    • @ValensBellator
      @ValensBellator Před 4 lety +67

      Yeah that was really awkward, didn’t even give him a pity smirk.

    • @arthurhogan8849
      @arthurhogan8849 Před 4 lety +17

      THE BATMAN : I got the same impression; like he either knows better regardless to what Chris was saying, or, he just doesn't like Chris.

    • @mikhail6884
      @mikhail6884 Před 4 lety +29

      reggie has an eternal brotherhood with jalen for being his teammate for a while, specially with the good team they made in the 90's, but because webber and miller are fellow hof'ers without a ring, they are standing on the same level and technically, can't diss each other. basketball status is eternal even after players retired.

  • @keyskillah6352
    @keyskillah6352 Před 5 lety +445

    "Maybe by the time your watch this"
    Which was today
    Good luck Juwan

  • @pendletondrew
    @pendletondrew Před 4 lety +55

    It seems to me like Webber just wants to move on and forget about it and Jalen can’t stop talking about it. So who is it really bothering more? 😂

  • @Fj3
    @Fj3 Před 5 lety +557

    Who's here after Jalen Rose proclaims that Juwan Howard's UM Coach signing will bring the Fab Five back together (including he and Chris Webber)?
    At least me.

  • @gavinsansbury988
    @gavinsansbury988 Před 3 lety +72

    And we finally have a peaceful resolution... thank you Jalen and Chris for giving us a nice, touching moment on ESPN.

  • @TheAcer1981
    @TheAcer1981 Před 4 lety +167

    Rose milked the Sh** out of this beef. I'm sure that he's got a huge merch of " Time out", " One dude" and "I'm not elated by this news".

    • @Whatacomedian_
      @Whatacomedian_ Před 3 lety +12

      It was definitely something that pushed him forward in his career. Shill or not. A player that discusses personal issues with another player? Thats gold tv. And he knew it.

    • @kyrianb
      @kyrianb Před 3 lety +14

      @@Whatacomedian_ I totally agree. Whatever Webber did wrong, shouldn't have been made public by Jalen and Jalen clearly benefited from it.

    • @russelljohnson437
      @russelljohnson437 Před 3 lety +3

      @@kyrianb lol when you’re a snake and a huge liar that’s not anybodies fault but Chris’s. Shouldn’t have been such a weenie Chris is a snake smh.

  • @abp1400
    @abp1400 Před 5 lety +813

    This is the reason Webber keeps on getting skipped over for HOF...

  • @smashboogietheilladelic5740

    We will always love the fab 5 in DETROIT no matter what happens internally .

  • @nickp8186
    @nickp8186 Před 3 lety +269

    I can tell you Chris Webber’s side of the story right now: he accepted some money because he was a kid who didn’t fully appreciate the ramifications and then he accidentally made a mental mistake at the end of a nationally televised most important game of his career to that point despite being a peak athlete because he was mentally exhausted and like 20 years old at that point. He denied accepting the money because of the legal ramifications probably as the advice of council around him and then admitted it to the lie in order save his ass just before he felt it was going to become evident he lied. People and media have constantly beat up on him his whole adult life because it’s easy to do and they don’t fully appreciate the hard work it takes to become that level of an athlete. And he is therefore suspicious of media and people. He by nature is also probably a little introverted even if he forces himself to act differently in public. He doesn’t hate Rose but feels betrayed by him because of all the people who have told him to apologize and have criticized him, Rose is the most similar to him given their history. He expected Rose to be more empathetic and faces a dissonance in which he must decide if Rose truly does not understand where he is coming from or if Rose has sold him out. Chris has a hard time understanding the actions of Rose given Rose’s extroverted tendencies. Rose did not truly “sell out” Webber but was repeating things that were already said but given his job the book and personality traits it’s easy to see why Chris took it that way. Obviously Chris doesn’t feel like he should apologize because he feels misunderstood and doesn’t want to speak up because it’s not fair to him to be in a position where that’s the only way people will have more empathy for him despite it not being their business.
    This is not rocket science you guys. Also fantastic mini-doc btw!

    • @christianlatham4491
      @christianlatham4491 Před rokem +28

      This chris’ burner account?

    • @alexs.9903
      @alexs.9903 Před rokem +10

      This is me rewatching, Chris owes an apology to Ed Martin and Coach Fisher. That's really it. That's the point Jalen made throughout though he could have been a bit understanding, but he has to talk about because hes on TV and what hes paid to do.

    • @speakinfaxonly21
      @speakinfaxonly21 Před rokem +6

      SOURCE: TRUST ME BRO I WAS THERE

    • @PrimeEli
      @PrimeEli Před rokem +1

      @@speakinfaxonly21”IM HIM” 😂😂

    • @BlaqRainFresh
      @BlaqRainFresh Před 10 měsíci +2

      You don’t know him so you can’t say his side. It doesn’t have to be rocket science, you just don’t know what you’re talking about

  • @king_supreme1102
    @king_supreme1102 Před 4 lety +136

    I knew I remembered Rob Pelinka from somewhere. I thought I was going crazy.

  • @dcaseng
    @dcaseng Před 5 lety +280

    Sometimes it's just best to let things die and move on.
    Chris Webber is clearly not comfortable revisiting his past, and jalen rose seems to go out of his way to make sure people don't forget about Webber's past indiscretions. At this point I have to be honest and start questioning jalen rose's motives. Why is it so important to keep this Supposed legacy alive?

    • @rhideflory
      @rhideflory Před 5 lety +110

      C-Webb is comfortable in his own skin after having a successful pro career that is worthy of HOF consideration and should have been in before T-Mac was ever considered.. Jalen on the other hand, while not a scrub, is best known for his Fab Five career than pro career. C-Webb was a winner at each of his pro stops. He put the Sacramento Kings on the map and was the victim of a more heinous sports crime in the rigging of the 2002 WCF.

    • @namari9350
      @namari9350 Před 4 lety +2

      I Said What I Said Sacramento queens fans I stg 🤦🏽‍♂️😂

    • @gobot581
      @gobot581 Před 4 lety +11

      You're thinking Jalen has an issue but guess what that legacy meant alot to the others not the whole team played in the NBA coincidence that only Webber isnt in the doc but everyone else was? Chris is and was selfish Jalen stood for not just the program but his coach and teamates. Jalen made money and lives a good life but for some of those guys and the coach and the program this meant alot and Webber ruined it with his selfishness

    • @Pasicho
      @Pasicho Před 4 lety +6

      I Said What I Said A winner a each of his pro stops? He lost in college in a historic way. He lost in the NBA in a historic way. I’m one to bring up a players positives to measure greatest but that’s empirically false.

    • @fitofito1001
      @fitofito1001 Před 4 lety +9

      I Said What I Said T-Mac is in HOF but Webber isn’t? This is ridiculous.

  • @jbj7599
    @jbj7599 Před 5 lety +707

    Aaron Rodgers vs mike McCarthy beef.

    • @gioperales2880
      @gioperales2880 Před 5 lety +9

      McCarthy would put paws on a rod

    • @biglicker4473
      @biglicker4473 Před 5 lety +4

      Teflon DaDon you silly😂 but man i can see it

    • @jackwilliams6706
      @jackwilliams6706 Před 5 lety +12

      I say let that one simmer a bit we might not've seen the end of it yet

    • @Blaftuned
      @Blaftuned Před 5 lety +2

      Would be good but too early so much could happen

    • @atom0824
      @atom0824 Před 5 lety

      we need this

  • @gregorcollins
    @gregorcollins Před 5 lety +84

    Not a lot of comments about the incredible and inspiring (and accurate) writing and storytelling that went into this piece. Really nice work, Seth and Ryan.

  • @FunnyGuy10009
    @FunnyGuy10009 Před 3 lety +174

    It just seems like Jalen Rose wants to live on his college legacy forever while Chris is okay with leaving it in the past

    • @guffhuff4746
      @guffhuff4746 Před 2 lety +29

      @C Jalen definitely had a good career. Fringe all star in his prime, scored 20 PPG for some teams, he had a solid career

    • @Jermardrst
      @Jermardrst Před 2 lety +2

      Thats because Webber through the College Championship w that time out. ALL YOUR SPORTS ARE RIGGED

    • @bigjohnson27
      @bigjohnson27 Před 2 lety

      @C yes Jalen did tf

    • @raf_cdn
      @raf_cdn Před 2 lety +3

      I mean it's because Chris ruined it for all of them

    • @theultimatepielord8697
      @theultimatepielord8697 Před 2 lety +17

      Yeah Jalen Rose wants to be remembered as part of the fab 5, Chris wants to be remembered as part of that Kings team that should've won the 2002 championship.

  • @RaidersFan1001
    @RaidersFan1001 Před 5 lety +494

    Chris Webber : Time out!!!!
    Ref: NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT!!!!!

    • @marlowencna
      @marlowencna Před 5 lety +4

      LOL. damn you people.

    • @jonmichael3280
      @jonmichael3280 Před 5 lety +10

      Was that a Double X reference?

    • @MyTypeOfVideos
      @MyTypeOfVideos Před 5 lety +29

      Jon B most likely a jalen and jacoby podcast reference

    • @hayyuuomer934
      @hayyuuomer934 Před 5 lety

      😂😂

    • @jons5658
      @jons5658 Před 5 lety +3

      MahoganyCHET And the Jalen and Jacoby podcast reference is a Double X Posse reference, lol.

  • @zhuoranli4576
    @zhuoranli4576 Před 5 lety +1351

    Do Jalen Rose vs 81 points memes

    • @zhuoranli4576
      @zhuoranli4576 Před 5 lety +43

      Mike West is this Jalen’s secretive CZcams account?

    • @desean3402
      @desean3402 Před 5 lety +2

      Zhuoran Li 🤣🤣🤣

    • @desean3402
      @desean3402 Před 5 lety +6

      Derek Lowe which is why he had to get that 81 in his life

    • @twocents6951
      @twocents6951 Před 5 lety +8

      Courney Hallcy Kobe only scored about 19 of the 81 against Rose. He didn’t guard him the whole game.

    • @desean3402
      @desean3402 Před 5 lety +5

      Two Cents 🤦🏿‍♂️ obviously Jalen didn’t guard him the entire game. What coach would let Jalen Rose guard Kobe the entire game while he’s going for 81? It’s a joke.

  • @KJ3113
    @KJ3113 Před 5 lety +46

    When the Fab 5 came in the scene in Fall 91, i was a Sophmore in HS. They were 5 starting Freshmen who went all the way to the Title game.
    The next season, the 5 starting Sophmores again made it to the Title game.
    They were huge. They were legends. The entire College game hated them. All the other teams, players, announcers, broadcasters were against them.
    They changed everything. They started the baggy, long shorts. B4 that, players wore very short, tight shorts. They wore black socks, black sneakers, and shaved their heads.
    Everywhere u went, people were wearing Michigan gear. It was everywhere.
    Im a Uconn fan, cause i live in CT, but they were a must see.
    What a time to b a college hoops fan! Thanks for the great memories of the 91-92, And 92-93 season. Even after Webber left, the 4 of them made it to the elite 8 in 93-94 season.
    And that was it. Rose, and Howard left, and that was all she wrote

    • @eddiefelson1288
      @eddiefelson1288 Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you for that reminder. They were way bigger than their beef. I was a white kid in Wisconsin wearing the gold shorts and black socks. My memories of the Fab Five will always be positive. Think of all of the national chamions after and even the teams that beat them. None were even close to as important and influential as the FAB FIVE

    • @fakeemmcee
      @fakeemmcee Před 2 lety

      I watched the documentary and apparently Bill Walton hated them 😳

    • @KJ3113
      @KJ3113 Před 2 lety

      @@eddiefelson1288 Well said man!!

  • @iN00bman
    @iN00bman Před 4 lety +29

    TY for pointing out this wouldn’t have happened if players were compensated for earning schools millions 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @monkeywithchainsaw1
    @monkeywithchainsaw1 Před 5 lety +520

    Can we get a deep rewind on the 1997 NCCA mens basketball tournament? Its Arizona's only championship and they came out of no where to upset 3 number 1 seeds and win it all.

    • @3rdninches
      @3rdninches Před 5 lety +1

      monkeywithchainsaw1 I agree with this. If auburn wins out this year they will get a doc in the future.

    • @gunjac86
      @gunjac86 Před 5 lety +17

      Came out of nowhere? They were a four seed, had 3 future first round draft picks. That team was awesome and should be talked about but not because they came out of nowhere.

    • @elbowgang9715
      @elbowgang9715 Před 5 lety +20

      @@gunjac86 that team was 19-9 before the tournament started . No one had them winning the national championship but yeah they certainly weren't unknown

    • @BeefPapa
      @BeefPapa Před 5 lety +1

      Bibby, Dickerson and Miles Simon on that team?

    • @n1k3inthehouse
      @n1k3inthehouse Před 5 lety +1

      3 seed Texas tech might do it against 1 seed Virginia. History sometimes repeat itself

  • @TheBusDriverExperience
    @TheBusDriverExperience Před 5 lety +57

    "Because I've been trolled like no other human in sports history"
    Unreal Chris

  • @gregoryvschmidt
    @gregoryvschmidt Před 5 lety +304

    Reggie Miller's look basically says he believes Jalen.

    • @UltraX34
      @UltraX34 Před 5 lety +24

      bruh fr tho

    • @jmbrooks82
      @jmbrooks82 Před 5 lety +30

      Facts, he was pushing that shirt towards C-Webb like whatever dude...

    • @christophercolumbus1705
      @christophercolumbus1705 Před 4 lety +11

      Douglas Taggart stop acting like you know this guy personally... you see him on tv 😂😂😂

    • @videoorgy
      @videoorgy Před 3 lety

      Ehh.

    • @martianmusic1364
      @martianmusic1364 Před 3 lety +4

      poker face while Webber's on a tangent like 😐 yeah bruh jalens right you're still hurting

  • @mickeyfrancese4775
    @mickeyfrancese4775 Před 5 lety +267

    Jalen needs to make shirts that say "One Dude..."

    • @melvinsprewel8287
      @melvinsprewel8287 Před 5 lety +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @freelyme333
      @freelyme333 Před 5 lety +15

      The way he's benefited off of throwing Chris under the bus, I'm shocked that he hasn't already.

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 Před 4 lety +21

      Chris threw the whole program and his own squad under the bus

    • @RapOvrDos
      @RapOvrDos Před 4 lety

      Josh Lewis exactly

  • @EDAOM27
    @EDAOM27 Před 5 lety +289

    Do the Timberwolves vs. the Playoffs

  • @dalesabandal9113
    @dalesabandal9113 Před 5 lety +528

    Yall should do Reggie Miller vs the entire city of New York/ Spike Lee

    • @donlee.4308
      @donlee.4308 Před 5 lety +39

      They had it at ESPN 30 for 30, but SB nation should have their own version of it too.

    • @JoeBro915
      @JoeBro915 Před 5 lety +1

      Ewing owned Reggie aside from those shots

    • @siircartiier
      @siircartiier Před 5 lety +8

      No need the 30:30 is great

    • @brendagray9296
      @brendagray9296 Před 5 lety +1

      Awwl now i gotta go back and erase mines. That was my thought. Well let me erase it now. 😂😂

    • @dalesabandal9113
      @dalesabandal9113 Před 5 lety +4

      @@JoeBro915 ewing wasnt exactly reggie's matchups...

  • @youngzeus87
    @youngzeus87 Před rokem +58

    C Webb is like Wilt at Kansas. He burdens that championship loss but they were both the only reason their teams were competitive

    • @pyeuneu
      @pyeuneu Před 7 měsíci +2

      Michigan reached final 4 or 8 after webber left, so not entirely true.

    • @johndavis9321
      @johndavis9321 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@pyeuneuright c Webb was definitely a big part of their success but to make it out like he was jus carryin a bunch of garbage dudes to relevance no that's completely untrue

  • @allank8497
    @allank8497 Před 3 lety +4

    So glad the beef is now squashed

  • @masterxploder5160
    @masterxploder5160 Před 5 lety +64

    Those two need to get on one of those one-on-one interviews that Shaq and Kobe were on

    • @mikejunior3373
      @mikejunior3373 Před 5 lety +1

      That would be a definite must watch!!

    • @tgms177
      @tgms177 Před 4 lety

      Jalen would definitely do it

    • @tgms177
      @tgms177 Před 4 lety

      Jalen would definitely do it

  • @cantbeatthebay4765
    @cantbeatthebay4765 Před 5 lety +352

    The NCAA did C-Webb hella dirty..

    • @Ironman1o1
      @Ironman1o1 Před 5 lety +126

      The NCAA does everyone dirty. Keeping the legacy of slavery alive and well in America.

    • @chrisroberts7017
      @chrisroberts7017 Před 5 lety +6

      Can't Beat The BAY! Then he did the Warriors hella dirty

    • @forrealforreal8723
      @forrealforreal8723 Před 5 lety +4

      Everybody takes money

    • @carsonc3314
      @carsonc3314 Před 5 lety +2

      They did Steve Fisher dirtier

    • @EthanBradburyVlogs
      @EthanBradburyVlogs Před 5 lety +2

      @@Ironman1o1 they get free scholarships. Cry more

  • @senakashiwazaki7328
    @senakashiwazaki7328 Před 4 lety +4

    Absolutely love all your stuff. Surprised you haven’t done a deep rewind on the Webber timeout. I’d love to see that.

  • @ericwall3526
    @ericwall3526 Před 4 lety +8

    Was a sr in high school when Chris was a junior, was a wrestler who actually loved the game of basketball. Had some friends who loved it too. We had to see chris play. We went to a home game of his and saw him throw dunks like the rim was set at 8 ft. Was an awsome experience to see this high school athlete that we knew as going to change the game. And yes he and the fab 5 changed the game. Chris and Jalen and those guys meant so much to Michigan nation then and still do. For cripes sake put the damn banners up Michigan. Your supposed to teach. Try teaching forgiveness for Pete's sake.

  • @95mjl
    @95mjl Před 5 lety +160

    While these two guys were beefing and having “good careers”, Juwan Howard out here was minding his own business winning a ring 😂

    • @ericwalker3792
      @ericwalker3792 Před 3 lety +6

      You mean rings but great point

    • @fatbean2000
      @fatbean2000 Před 2 lety +33

      c web should of had a championship if not for the worst officiated game in the league history.

    • @ncaa12cfb92
      @ncaa12cfb92 Před 2 lety +4

      As a bum on the bench

    • @thegolden807
      @thegolden807 Před 2 lety +1

      Yo chill he was just on the team 😂

    • @tirethor972mjolnir3
      @tirethor972mjolnir3 Před rokem +1

      He watched the 5 starters win the championship actually

  • @BokuGlack
    @BokuGlack Před 5 lety +226

    Detroit had so many good athletes.

    • @TenThumbsProductions
      @TenThumbsProductions Před 5 lety +16

      Mike the list of the best athletes from Detroit and the best athletes to have played in Detroit are ridiculous.

    • @fredx239
      @fredx239 Před 5 lety +7

      Crazy how many good Old School players came from the 313

    • @kp-iv2mp
      @kp-iv2mp Před 5 lety +3

      And rappers! NF and Eminem!

    • @jalen3590
      @jalen3590 Před 5 lety

      All they draft is athletic rebounders

    • @BokuGlack
      @BokuGlack Před 5 lety +2

      Laron DaGod I’m talking about the amount the amount of athletes from Detroit

  • @joshp5819
    @joshp5819 Před 3 měsíci

    One of the best channels on CZcams been going back to watch the older stuff and it still hits

  • @shopwrecker1785
    @shopwrecker1785 Před 4 lety +84

    Rose does exploit this beef in the media waaay too much....you got an espn gig behind it, now leave it alone🙄

    • @gobot581
      @gobot581 Před 3 lety +10

      Lol Jalen Rose was working media before he even retired. You must be young don’t think you know what happened from a CZcams video. Look up the charges filed

    • @LostBoysBasketball
      @LostBoysBasketball Před 3 lety

      @@gobot581 fax

  • @maxkirkman4568
    @maxkirkman4568 Před 5 lety +117

    The Juwan Howard Chris Webber bullets team was legit. They had the MCI Center rocking.

    • @paulscheidel3258
      @paulscheidel3258 Před 5 lety +5

      Max Kirkman they put up tons of banners!!!!!!

    • @jferg8956
      @jferg8956 Před 5 lety +2

      So many playoff exits!

    • @drunkroku4054
      @drunkroku4054 Před 5 lety +3

      Along with a young Ben Wallace coming off the bench, is how stacked the bigs were.

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto Před 5 lety +1

      Imagine if the NBA didn't cancel the Howard to Miami signing?

    • @2714shaun
      @2714shaun Před 5 lety +1

      @@drunkroku4054
      I believe rasheed Wallace started there too

  • @freshcheddar
    @freshcheddar Před 5 lety +78

    C Webb is underrated as hell ever since the Timeout, idc what nobody said he was the best player out of the Fab Five by far everyone else at the top were journeymen.

    • @nathanielthomas2502
      @nathanielthomas2502 Před 4 lety +5

      Agreed but still doesn't make Chris right on this issue

    • @playoffp7452
      @playoffp7452 Před 4 lety +3

      Marcus Mack also the fakest.How u lie on Ed Martin and he gave u 600,000 at 18

    • @tacotom3492
      @tacotom3492 Před 2 lety +1

      Chris obviously was the best but Jalen was a very good player along with JHo.. Jimmy and Ray were good role players. Ray is a Dallas guy (As am I).and definitely made more $$ than anyone woulda thought so it seems everyone did ok

  • @christopheroliver4757
    @christopheroliver4757 Před 4 lety +16

    Ray Jackson was incredibly underrated.

  • @shaksham.22
    @shaksham.22 Před 3 lety +26

    Well i m here after watching both of them talk emotionally about chris webber getting elected into hall of fame.

    • @davidgaskins2589
      @davidgaskins2589 Před 3 lety

      Bro you seem feminine

    • @shaksham.22
      @shaksham.22 Před 3 lety +6

      @@davidgaskins2589 well thanks for making it about me lol, nobody cares

  • @musiclover-cn7tb
    @musiclover-cn7tb Před 5 lety +261

    this is sad please forgive each other life is too short and no it won't happen overnight but fix it now.

  • @tjantilag
    @tjantilag Před 5 lety +71

    Breaks my heart. An iconic team and Chris is one of my favourite players of all time. Hopefully one day they can get back to being the group they were.

    • @nolanneals2568
      @nolanneals2568 Před 2 lety

      ngl. the only way i know jalen rose was that he was on my league legends 2k mobile team.

  • @darrenjames3065
    @darrenjames3065 Před 4 lety +44

    From having watched this team as a UNC fan and realizing how they changed college basketball, all the way to watching the Fab Five move onto the NBA, I’d always wanted to see the Fab Five go back to Michigan and get the accolades they deserved. I’d like for this to be reconciled. Chris Webber being an honorary football captain and now Juwan Howard being the Michigan basketball coach tells me that there’s a chance of it coming. But I think that it’s still not too close to happening. It’s gonna come down to Chris and Jalen reconciling first.

    • @nandouquintana5709
      @nandouquintana5709 Před rokem

      In which sense did they change basketball?

    • @Apple2-ux8uo
      @Apple2-ux8uo Před 8 měsíci

      It was discovered for the first time if a booster secretly paid good players hundreds of thousands, they were easier to recruit.
      This innovative recruiting had never been tried in college sports before.

    • @n8tethegr8t20
      @n8tethegr8t20 Před 7 měsíci

      @@nandouquintana5709 literally freshman starting on a basketball team, first college team to start all freshman which is what see all the time nowadays, also wearing black socks, baggy shorts

  • @europeanamerican3429
    @europeanamerican3429 Před 5 lety +18

    Very very very GOOD reporting...Outstanding clip with factual info that I was not aware of.
    Great job 👏🏾

  • @fasteddie9970
    @fasteddie9970 Před 5 lety +654

    Do Chris Webber VS Timeouts

  • @MrShanester117
    @MrShanester117 Před 5 lety +229

    It seems like Webber went “big time” as soon as he went first overall and he never really was as close to those guys as they thought. Webber seems to be all about Webber

    • @lildubuoy
      @lildubuoy Před 5 lety +98

      And rose seems to be all about exploiting what webber is all about. So what does that make him????

    • @SubjectZ3RO
      @SubjectZ3RO Před 5 lety +8

      That’s the impression I got as well. Reminds a bit of the Ray Allen & Boston situation

    • @georgiofamous6334
      @georgiofamous6334 Před 5 lety +46

      @@SubjectZ3RO Boston played Ray stop it

    • @SubjectZ3RO
      @SubjectZ3RO Před 5 lety +23

      Georgio Famous I know that... I was referring to the fact that it seems like Ray Allen and his teammates in Boston weren’t as close they thought they were. Not with the organization I should’ve made that clearer though

    • @jons5658
      @jons5658 Před 5 lety +27

      J Day He did...until Chris started lying on Ed Martin, someone who did a lot for both of them. The other 4 are all cool. Juwan is the only one still cool with Chris. What does that tell you?

  • @humblelion4959
    @humblelion4959 Před 5 lety +4

    This is so well done, very informative and funny. I am just a fan.

  • @SFO14
    @SFO14 Před 5 lety +79

    Vince Carter vs. the city of Toronto (or entire population of Canada)

    • @NemoHoes
      @NemoHoes Před 5 lety +7

      Lmao canada do not dislike him

    • @SFO14
      @SFO14 Před 5 lety +13

      @@NemoHoes Not anymore :-)

    • @NemoHoes
      @NemoHoes Před 5 lety +1

      @@SFO14 they never did

    • @SFO14
      @SFO14 Před 5 lety +27

      @@NemoHoes You must be young...almost every Raptors fan hated him after he left Toronto for New Jersey

    • @NemoHoes
      @NemoHoes Před 5 lety

      @@SFO14 nope mid 30s I never heard him get any hate

  • @andrewbristow2817
    @andrewbristow2817 Před 5 lety +123

    I never felt more bad........for REGGIE MILLER during that Dan Patrick interview.

    • @randomzero3
      @randomzero3 Před 5 lety +16

      I think Reggie started it, but he definitely asked questions himself and kept it going. C-Webb actually says to Reggie after one bit, "You're supposed to be on my side".

  • @garysmith4218
    @garysmith4218 Před 5 lety +64

    13:30 Reggie Miller's poker face! 😂🤣😂 he wanted no part of that interview.

    • @DaveRSuperstar
      @DaveRSuperstar Před 4 lety +7

      That's because Jalen was his boy, and he probably knows who Webber really is. Webber always struck me as kind of soft and dishonest. But I'm a Michigan fan, so I'm going to embrace the guy who still loves Michigan and wants them to be successful.

    • @youtubevanced2055
      @youtubevanced2055 Před 4 lety

      @@DaveRSuperstar records show exactly that, well, the dishonest part at least.

  • @Zaymane808
    @Zaymane808 Před 3 lety +12

    Its crazy cuz Chris Webber played on uncle drew and was the character who told drew to stop hiding from the truth.

  • @RoryL83
    @RoryL83 Před 5 lety +37

    Jalen's ridden this story to the top of espn, wonder if he can keep it alive to keep himself relevant.

  • @durian830317
    @durian830317 Před 5 lety +68

    I click this video and finish it so fast, the Fab Five brotherhood hasn't became a whole yet.
    MY FAULT

    • @kz1000ps
      @kz1000ps Před 5 lety +2

      Dang, same damn result here!

  • @jerrysimonjr34
    @jerrysimonjr34 Před 5 lety +15

    They need to sit down with no cameras, with a mediator and squash this beef. It's gone on long enough

  • @jarretthoogerhyde1633
    @jarretthoogerhyde1633 Před 4 lety +7

    I think Chris not being in the 30 for 30 is what makes it so great!

  • @cjmoss51
    @cjmoss51 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Today they were all at a Michigan Basketball game. The Beef is officially squashed.

  • @GoldenWind30
    @GoldenWind30 Před 5 lety +10

    Dam C-Webb had it tough. The 2 NCAA Championship losses, the trial, the 01 WCF, injuries & getting banned from Michigan temporarily. Still glad he's still doing his thing.

    • @jlgmail1580
      @jlgmail1580 Před 5 lety +4

      but he dated Tyra Banks, Made more money than all Fab Five combined and recently did a huge movie, with Kyrie Irving so I think he is winning.

    • @deebee8825
      @deebee8825 Před 5 lety

      @@jlgmail1580 lol yep. Sure is

  • @jaykob213
    @jaykob213 Před 5 lety +23

    God damn this was well put together. Did not feel like a 16 minute video at all. Good job!

  • @ldbboosha
    @ldbboosha Před 4 lety +56

    I'm kinda on Webber's side. A college mistake is ridiculous to keep bringing up, especially when they both have successful careers.

    • @rogregg29445
      @rogregg29445 Před 4 lety +8

      Downtown Clay Davis yeah I’ve always hated Jalen rose I think he’s such a loud mouth and the fact that he can’t let it go is just sad

    • @ryublueblanka
      @ryublueblanka Před 4 lety +13

      It's not about a college mistake...it's about his character through his entire life. Webber is a liar and a scumbag

    • @devondivine1083
      @devondivine1083 Před 4 lety +6

      Thats cause you a weenie, you don't 💩 on somebody that took care of you, cause you got caught up and LIED in court.

    • @ryublueblanka
      @ryublueblanka Před 3 lety

      @Duck my sick 876 Webber didn't just lie once. You don't know Webber. Learn about the guy.

    • @ryublueblanka
      @ryublueblanka Před 3 lety

      @Duck my sick 876 I'm not knocking him for being a kid what are you talking about??!!

  • @lordsofoctoberofficial
    @lordsofoctoberofficial Před 5 lety +5

    Great video. You sound almost exactly like Bill Simmons, btw.

  • @aarriaga04
    @aarriaga04 Před 5 lety +18

    Damn 🤦🏽‍♂️ is it hard for a man to apologize?

  • @KB-qk1ic
    @KB-qk1ic Před 5 lety +4

    Two of my favorite players ever, my introduction to college basketball was the Fab 5 and it sucks seeing them like this.

  • @milinsharrow6937
    @milinsharrow6937 Před 5 lety +62

    Who's here after jalen said the hiring of juwan will bring them back together

  • @contactdigestpodcast1530
    @contactdigestpodcast1530 Před 5 lety +5

    This should be on tv. That was pretty da-- good. Narration made it.

  • @recaptoons
    @recaptoons Před 5 lety +337

    *NCAA player gets payed 1$* ok boys u know the drill

    • @ifeellikeyeezus8525
      @ifeellikeyeezus8525 Před 5 lety

      If they don’t like it they can get a real job.

    • @ifeellikeyeezus8525
      @ifeellikeyeezus8525 Před 5 lety +1

      Jordan the GOAT had no problem doing it

    • @orbitalgoat6712
      @orbitalgoat6712 Před 5 lety +15

      @@ifeellikeyeezus8525 shut yo ass up

    • @wm9281
      @wm9281 Před 5 lety +2

      There is other options. They can go to europe and get paid right away and youthful developmental professional leagues are popping up now. The problem is corruption and turning a blind eye to the secret hush society of this organization. .

    • @DPRX99
      @DPRX99 Před 5 lety

      *paid

  • @objohnkenobi
    @objohnkenobi Před 5 lety +87

    "When Webber went to Michigan, Rose followed him..." because that's what he was paid to do.

    • @jamaalhorton2343
      @jamaalhorton2343 Před 4 lety +9

      objohnkenobi Jalen been coat tailing Webber! They bring up Country Day Suburbs but Jalen and Chris lived next door to each other in Detroit along with Vashon Leonard

    • @dezznutz3743
      @dezznutz3743 Před 4 lety +2

      WRONG

    • @HoneyBee4163
      @HoneyBee4163 Před 3 lety +12

      He followed because they were friends...and both were angry at Duke. At that time Duke was only recruiting black kids from middle class families. Why? Less drama and more disciplined....is the stereotype. Duke's image was very important. Jalen made Chris a better player. Webber owes Coach Fisher.

    • @hunterburk
      @hunterburk Před 3 lety

      Webber was signed sealed delivered to go to Michigan State then abruptly changes in mind. You can thank Martin giving the Fab5 plenty of illegal $$$$$$$.

    • @alexjones3511
      @alexjones3511 Před 2 lety

      @@hunterburk He only gave illegal money to Webber. Rose was acquitted. And the other three members didn't have any major involvment with Martin like Webber and Rose did. Jimmy King and Ray Jackson were from TEXAS, and Juwan was from ILLINOIS.

  • @herbwright1441
    @herbwright1441 Před 3 lety +13

    Just look at Reggie Miller's face while C. Webb is giving his side. Reggie's face says it all.

  • @yeah1099
    @yeah1099 Před 3 lety +7

    Who’s here after they finally talked again??

  • @libertines24
    @libertines24 Před 5 lety +118

    lmao miller and rose were tight so seeing Reggie just being like :| made me laugh

    • @RastasNevaDie
      @RastasNevaDie Před 5 lety +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @bigbabydogdawg4496
      @bigbabydogdawg4496 Před 5 lety +5

      Exactly..

    • @Coolquip43
      @Coolquip43 Před 5 lety

      Reggie and Rose ain't exactly close either. Rose called out Reggie for not paying his fine for coming off the bench.

  • @3rdninches
    @3rdninches Před 5 lety +18

    Mateen Cleaves (sp) was on the cover of Final Four 2001. The first college basketball game I owned as a kid.

  • @travdaddy-wh4wp
    @travdaddy-wh4wp Před 4 lety

    Dude you showed so much great information with the articles but you overlooked it and went through all it way to fast.. I had to pause the movie and read the screen for myself... But I loved it.. Go blue

  • @ashburnconnecttv7860
    @ashburnconnecttv7860 Před 2 lety +4

    Magic: “There’s more important things in life than talking about things that happens 20-something years ago...”

  • @josephseed8791
    @josephseed8791 Před 5 lety +258

    CWebb number 4
    Jalen is number 5
    5+4=9
    You know what else equals to 9?
    8+1

  • @kaqueburlington4278
    @kaqueburlington4278 Před 5 lety +254

    Can you do Andy Reid vs The game clock (when under 2 minutes left)

    • @ebsmith29
      @ebsmith29 Před 5 lety +3

      Or they can do one about Dan Quinn vs Clock Management.

    • @anthonyali7309
      @anthonyali7309 Před 5 lety

      Pimps & hoes no street corners,
      Basketball courts & football fields.

    • @litslayer
      @litslayer Před 5 lety

      That's Too Far!!! LOL

    • @sadieirvin4350
      @sadieirvin4350 Před 5 lety

      😂😂😂😂😂😁

    • @uglyman6984
      @uglyman6984 Před 5 lety

      lmfao

  • @patricksale7376
    @patricksale7376 Před 4 lety

    Never knew this was going on.. great video

  • @Ducksaucetoni
    @Ducksaucetoni Před 4 lety

    I usually hate these with all the commentary, but this was well done!

  • @ChrisJProductionz
    @ChrisJProductionz Před 5 lety +111

    Allen Iverson Vs. David Stern next please

  • @de132
    @de132 Před 5 lety +6

    "I don't need to talk about him"... now. When Jalen first started getting the rub from ESPN, he needed the Fab Five and Webber to grow his career. Post-Grantland, Post-ESPN Radio Jalen doesn't need him, but he *did* need him at one point

  • @jonathannieman3952
    @jonathannieman3952 Před 5 lety

    Great video dude! Look forward to more

  • @jonathanmccallum4330
    @jonathanmccallum4330 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I’m glad NIL is here just because of stuff like this

  • @dearkazuscorner2549
    @dearkazuscorner2549 Před 5 lety +32

    Aaaah, so that's why Chris Webber is not a HoF member yet....

  • @kxrv6629
    @kxrv6629 Před 5 lety +9

    Tough when your two biggest moments are almosts! The timeout and the Robert Horry shot (although it wasn’t C-Web that was directly involved in this King’s heartbreaker). I was a huge Sacramento fan during the C-Web era but these shenanigans were always murky. Thanks for bringing some clarity to this beef almost.

  • @richardashianor8562
    @richardashianor8562 Před 5 lety +1

    What’s sad is that it may take something huge to even bring them to an understanding. It may be Michigan acknowledging their accomplishments, if only by a mention.
    The much more bleak scenario is a tragedy. I hope they reconcile while their coach is there to be a part.

  • @RealMikeGibbs
    @RealMikeGibbs Před 3 lety +1

    The writers of these episodes definitely dropped 100k plus on their education. They’re just flexing with the writing style. I see you! 🤣💯🔥

  • @rizzyretro
    @rizzyretro Před 5 lety +240

    Andre Drummond vs Free Throws please

  • @Lucas-AR
    @Lucas-AR Před 5 lety +115

    Reggie miller jalen former teammate had the straightest of faces on

    • @donegary4581
      @donegary4581 Před 5 lety +1

      Lol🤣😂he did

    • @atm7896
      @atm7896 Před 5 lety +4

      I noticed that too..lol... I thought to myself they hve to be promoting Uncle Drew...

    • @jesseavila1355
      @jesseavila1355 Před 5 lety +1

      why you think?

    • @jayythrash3646
      @jayythrash3646 Před 5 lety +3

      Jesse Avila cause he know Jaylen a damn hater

    • @jesseavila1355
      @jesseavila1355 Před 5 lety +2

      @@jayythrash3646 I thought he trying to make peace but c webber ain't I guess I was wrong

  • @darkgable85
    @darkgable85 Před 4 lety

    I just wanted to say that i like your videos.... Also can you do Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley beef

  • @geno1399
    @geno1399 Před rokem +16

    Jalen was talking about Chris like he owned him a direct apology