Rob Parker & Antonio Daniels Debate if Steph Being the Greatest Shooter is Debatable…
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Nobody's debating this except Rob. Nobody's
No "greatest shooter ever" before Steph....
False.its a simple question even if he is thr best shooter..he most definitely aint the best clutch shooter
@@dceltics2461clutch shooting is a very small sample size, if he just hit 3/4 more shots he’d be closer to Michael Jordan’s clutch percentage %
@@dceltics2461jimmy highroller has a good video on just this
@@dceltics2461 LOL! Whose the better shooter ever if it's not Steph Curry? I'll wait to laugh at your answer.
Gotta love the way Rob threw the question of who’s a better shooter than Curry back to Antonio without answering & changing the question 😂😂😂
Antonio had him check mated
WHO was "greatest shooter ever" BEFORE Steph???
So weird they randomly pick one guy then say it's "not debatable".
Rob never did answer that question 😮
He couldn’t. That’s why he kept trying to change the variables of the question, to fit the way he wanted to answer so it would make him right. Helluva deflect job by him
😂
He did a few years back and he argued it was ray allen lmao
His criteria for greatest shooter is different than others. I agree with Rob. If u are this supposed greatest shooter but it doesnt show in crunch time. Must not be all that great.
@@davidhutson2846he has hit plenty of shots in crunch time, it's just you and Robs idea of “crunch time“ is different than everybody else's
@@davidhutson2846 I usually think of "greatest shooter" as a player averaging 48-50% FG, 40-45% 3FG, and being .500 or higher in the clutch that includes buzzer beaters for a majority of his career. Steph fits all but the latter... had he made a majority of his buzzer beating 3's to actually WIN games even in the playoffs and Finals, then yeah many people can say that about Steph. But then again, there were a million players that played in the NBA who were fantastic shooters. So yeah "greatest shooter" is without question debatable.
Rob loss that debate and couldn't admit it😂
How? The 0 - 14 stat line wasn't addressed whatsoever.
Pressure is a real variable and it without a doubt impacts the outcomes of games.
This is why it's debatable. Steph may be the greatest shooter of all time when the game isn't on the line, but I'm picking several other shooters when it is.
@@1neomonkeythat was exactly the point Antonio Daniels couldn't recover from in his argument
@@1neomonkeyBeing the best clutch shooter doesn’t make you the best shooter of all time.
Thanks Rob Parker for not answering the question Antonio Daniels was asking you about curry
Sometimes Rob is annoying AF
lol just sometimes?
It’s Rob Parker! ✨
I guess he’s only entertaining ti you when he hates on Lebron
@@niltash4ever facts then these weirdos love him 😂
He doesn’t hate Lebron @@niltash4ever
Every Steph Curry topic is a hate fest for Rob Parker. But this was a pretty pathetic attemp at it 😂
Steph is without question the greatest shooter ever. NOW, if were talking about greatest CLUTCH shooter ever, with everything on the line, that's a different discussion altogether. A discussion that may have to start with guys like Ray Allen, Larry Bird and Reggie Miller at least, before we work our way down to Steph.
Ray Allen better
Jordan is the Best Shooter. Those guys are just the Best 3pt Shooters. Jordan was better at every other type of shot and his FG % didn't fall off in the Finals like those guys while his 3pt % even went up and had rhe record for Most 3s in a half if a Finals game until Curry FINALLY tied that in his 6th Finals. Curry also went 0-9 from 3 in a Finals game. Jordan never went 0-9 from anywhere. Finals 3pt %: Jordan 37%, Curry 39%. When Jordan missed a shot it was a legit surprise while Curry throw up Airballs and people are like no big deal.
When you start adding layers to being the greatest shooter it becomes complex so just sticking to the topic yes Steph is the greatest he broke the record. No different from fake 23 breaking scoring title record but who really thinks he’s the greatest scorer tho…
Why is Reggie considered clutch? He never won anything. Steph has hit clutch shots, just not in the biggest moments. Reggie hasn’t even made it to the biggest moments.
I want Iguodala
Debating if something is debatable. I have to admit that is genius.
Genius? Ehh, that’s debatable
He's a great shooter yes....but if my team is down 2 or 3....& the time is running out. I want Bird or Ray taking that shot.
And you’re losing that game 95% of the time. Give me steph
Even Kobe, Kyrie, MJ, Kawhi, Lebron, Dame Time
steph is a better shooter overall by a noticeable margin no doubt but fr if my life on the line i might have to go with others or even dame, shooting is just shooting, but it takea many other aspects skill wise and mentality to win
@@OffTopicKamahhow is he losing the game 95% of the time with Bird or Ray taking the shot?
You Curry groupies are irritating
Why would u like to have a game where u can win or loose by one shot. 😂 Steph all day cause he will destroy teams throughout the course of the game and not need a buzzer beater to win. 🤣 U all forgot how many 4Q he sat cause the lead is to much
Jesus Shuttlesworth's shot and form was a thing of beauty 🤌🏽 His jumper was wet.
The best shooter I ever saw.
But not only could he shoot, he had an arsenal of offensive weapons to get his shot off. Kids today don't know about his Bucks and Sonics days 😁
I got him over Steph all day!!!
@@chrismoneystl😭😭😭
"I want Iguodala"
Hahahaha
Chris broussard can probably save skip's show, whatever's left of it.
Ya but his chemistry on first things first is too good to leave
But we need him on first things first !! Replace skip show with first things first is the real thing fs1 should do
Him and Skip won’t work
@@Thepessimest they used to work on first take & when he used to go on undisputed
Skip is fading because he's been pulling his punches ever since that dust up with sharpe.
It's a different Era. Reggie Miller took a third of the shots Curry does
That dont change the fact that curry is the best shooter ever (until somebody inevitably passes him as well)
I've never understood that 0-14 stat. I remember that shot against the Pelicans during the playoffs in 2015 that should have been an and 1
It's because pressure is a real variable and it impacts outcomes.
It's what happens when you have "Strength in Numbers".
When the star is on a rookie contract, they fill out the roster with talent so have few close games...
But when the star is on a max contract, he ACTUALLY has to carry... and often comes up short.
Running off screens is easy... IT4 did that in BOS and averaged 30ppg.
But having to run the offense is tiring!!
Yall forget Steph used to SIT OUT ENTIRE 4TH QUARTERS due to his team having a large lead
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Many would still choose Larry Bird to hit a clutch shot over Steph. Steph played with KD which elevated his status as a 4-time champ based on a trade with an MVP.
I old head . Stop the cap .
None of what you said equates to Larry Bird is a better shooter than Curry. I would take KD for a clutch 3 over Curry. Hell I’d Take Kyrie. Neither are better shooters than Steph Curry
Iguodala over steph in the clutch
What wud u rather have. Win a game comfortably or needing one shot to win... 🤣 steph destroys throughout the game until teams just give up so he did not need to be clutch most of the time. Also, just because he has not shot a lot of buzzer beater, that does not mean he has not made clutch daggers to win games. 🤦🤣
it wasnt a trade it was free agency. and bird can get an easier shot because he is 6'10 not because he is a better shooter
He said rob im not fighting with you today
Reggie Miller catch and shoot off of a double screen was super clutch back in the day, but just as the best pure deep shooter, I think I gotta give that crown to Steph
I would say yes bc of his ability to shoot off the dribble crossover step back and off the pick along with his range ✅
Wasn't ish til 2014. Credit being chosen. Magnetized shits as f. Thatsbehybhe missed 10 half court shots with no pressure at the All Star game 8 years ago or so. Globetrotters do it but they'd never use that technology and manipulation in a BILLION DOLLAR ANNUALLY Sports league right?!
Notice Rob can't answer Antonio's question. Although I understand what Rob is trying to say no other three-point shooter in history has changed the game like Steph and it's that simple whether he or anybody else likes it or not. 🤷🏽♂️
Rob just trolling to troll lol
Liked antonio daniels as a player. Loved his go to dunk. He would out in on any body. The go up with one dunk with 2. He perfected it Iykyk. Good defender, explosive, reliable. But he is a better color analyst. Hes lights out. Very very good. Tune into a pelicans game
Whats the debate? I thought the conversation was over years ago🤣
I love it. Nothing is above question. 90s basketball or Currys shooting ability included.
As is so often the case nowadays, a figure of speech gets treated as if it's meant to convey a literal reality. Rob needs to find some one who shoots as well as Curry in non-clutch time before delineating with clutch shooting.
It’s funny how people pick and choose when the post season matters. With Steph it doesn’t matter, but when debating LBJ and MJ you start with finals. When Antonio asked Rob “How much time is left”, that proves Rob point. If you feel he’s the best, it shouldn’t matter…🤷🏽♂️
Rob not answering the question & changing the narrative is the reason people are figuratively ‘done with the 90s’
Only rob parker will answer a question with a question 😂🤦🏾♂️🤡 around the 6:30 mark
Never liked this redundant clown.
Debatable???? Are we serious???? Damn I get it that the NBA is slow right now but let's bffr!!!!!!!
I mean to be the goat shooter , he don't have as many notable late game treys as you would think
Well nothing that isn’t factual can technically be debated lol
@@jocofnazarethDo you know how many points Steph averages in the fourth quarter?
People here are debating clutchness. The question is who is the greatest shooter and the answer is the chef! Stephen Curry is the GOAT shooter. No one in history can make a 3 the way steph can. Man just needs a sliver of daylight and it's all net. Just stop trying to argue what we know is a fact.
It's not slow right now they just love to talk stupid stuff
Rob’s opinion on Steph Curry is silly and shameful 🤦🏾♂️
Rob and Chris needs to be on TV both of them 💯
😇 LL🕊️ChrisDaniels‼️🙏🏼🙌🏼
The fact that Chris think kyrie is not the most skilled player ever is more ridiculous
Why is this a debate steph is the best shooter of this generation...steph is gettin older & still buss' n ass on the court without steph golden state would be in the lottery
Steph can shoot the midrange better than Kobe or dirk ? No steph is the best 3pt shooter not best shooter
@madara6578 he been doing it more the last few years kobe my favorite player of all time but he not a better shooter than steph.
@@The-Next-Chapter. I would say Kobe is better from midrange tbh but I feel like it’s just semantics at that point.
@@EnTiempo824no he’s not and watched Kobe his all career
@cameroonbreezygoat903 kobe can get 🔥 & light up on any giving night but consistency kobe was not as a shooter
Rob doesn’t debate facts. He debates his favorites and least favorites
I agree with Rob Parker. It is debatable an open three pointer is a lot easier to shoot did a contested three pointer Larry bird told you where he was going to shoot from. Met you there and still made the shot not to mention was able to score effortlessly with his left that shooting
The one thing about this conversation is no one is wrong because they will never actually get to play. I just think Boston had way more office of fire power than the bulls.
The one thing about this conversation is no one is wrong because they will never actually get to play. I just think Boston had way more office of fire power than the bulls.
When you have to ask "how much time is left" for the last shot question............
The thing with steph is he can shoot but not when it matters most he's worst than Lebron James which is crazy.
Lol that's a troll comment because Lebronis more clutch than not clutch wtf you smoking. This is proven and not even debatable. Whatever clutch miss that MATTERED most that he missed, there 2-3 he made..Don't be naive on purpose. Child please
@@kungfufemafam9216man plz ! You wouldn’t even take lebron in the clutch
@@z-mane1438 Of course I woukd. If you're talking about one shot and that's it. Youre right I wouldn't..But there are endless factors to the last shot goofy. Robert Horry or Ray Allen would be my choice. If im.choosing between steph and LeBron, you're ignorant to choose Steph. You've only watched the NBA since 2007 Child
@@kungfufemafam9216 thats not true lol, lebron is horible in the clutch. He is 19 of 107 for his career on clutch shots, for a total fg% of 17%.
@@kungfufemafam9216exactly, he a lebron hater, lebron got the most clutch shots, more than Mike and Kobe
We done wit da 90s
You gotta love Rob Parker. With age comes wisdom.
So the greatest dunker has to make a dunk to win the game? The greatest ball handler has to do a move and then win the game? That logic doesn't even make sense rob
Rob changing the narrative to most clutch shooter ever.
Conditioning.
Rob be trolling. 😂😂😂
To be fair, the candidates for the best 2 shooter must play each other one on one to prove each other whose the best. Klay Thompson vs. Steph Curry Or Ray Allen vs. Steph Curry Or Reggie Miller vs Steph Curry? Mono y Mono is the only way to prove it. Best of 7?
Also, in game shooter vs set shooter or 2 pointer vs 3 pointer is debatable.
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I think Steph's the greatest shooter of all time, but it's debatable because he got to play in an era of analytics where there's so much more of a green light to take 3s. Nobody got that kind of green light back in the day, you'd get benched for just chucking up 3s all the time. Also, if you include midrange shooting, then I'd say there's a lot of players I'd take over Steph in terms of the whole package of shooting the ball.
His greatness made that greenlight! There were YEARS when Steph shot like 70% on open looks!!! That’s why he’s guarded that way! Which forces him to excel at taking hero shots! His percentages are NOT THE SAME as other players because he’s defended wayyyy differently!!
@@brianbanks8570 you could argue that, but there were extremely good 3 pt shooters back in the day too and they still weren’t getting the green light from coaches and organizations like that, just because they didn’t believe in the analytics.
I going with bird.
"Damn time" is the GOAT of shooters!
People think nothing ever happened before now. Its the only way that we are having half these conversations.
Kyrie has the best handle & rim finishing ever. It’s absolutely absurd how good he is……
Tell him Rob
Rob has never liked Steph so I don't really take his opinions on him seriously, but that 0-14 stat is ridiculous. The exact stat is 0-14 on **go ahead shots with 50 or less seconds left**. Would it be better if he made some of them? Of course. But he's made plenty of game tying shots in that time, including multiple with less than 10 seconds left, and he's made go ahead shots with less than a minute left. This stat is something people hear and bring out when it's time to slander but they forget to actually remember the stat. That's why I've never liked stats like this, people fixate on them and twist them to fit their narrative. And let's not pretend that a big shot can only be hit in the last 50 seconds. An example of a shot that was hit outside of that time frame - Kyrie's 3 in game 7. I bet Rob thinks that's a big enough shot. Listening to these arguments you'd think Steph was just doing cardio and accidently found himself with 4 rings.
Fake espn stat
But what about the clutch shots all throughout the 4th...
They are injured more because they play way more basketball. The older guys took time off, while these guys play constantly. They sound goofy. These guy work out way better than those old players used to
Rob has a valid point.
No he doesn’t the game is 48 minutes and for 47 of them Steph shoots better than EVERYONE but for one minute a small handful are better in clutch. That is ignorant and idiotic to dismiss 99% of the game.
Rob be killing me with these random criteria’s for every argument.
What’s funny is, Steph has 8 GWs in his career, 1 Buzzer-beater (against Houston) and has the 4th-highest PPG average in the Finals in NBA history (27.3) most 3pM in the playoffs AND regular season. If he’s not clutch or not the greatest shooter ever, how does he have all those numbers to his name? Rob GOTTA be asking himself that question in the end to prove he’s NOT the goat shooter. Basing it off a 0-14 FG in the last 50 secs in the playoffs means almost nothing when he has unbreakable shooting records. 4,000+ total 3s including playoffs w/ an INSANE amount of 10+ 3Pt games
It’s weird how many people just want you to agree with them. So Steph being the greatest shooter ever is unquestionable??????
But is it debatable that it’s debatable?????
Antonio “I don’t know “ Daniel’s strikes again With absolutely nothing to say
That's like saying I got a million dollar house but one tap doesn't work and saying that my shed had all its taps working so it's a better "house"😂. Typical old man get off my lawn business Robert
Rob is spot on I d take Reggie Miller and with how many attempts and space of today Reggie would be perfect player to drop into todays game from 90s
Why? Reggie is shooting at the volume and accuracy that Steph is? Highly doubt that, especially considering just how difficult many of the shots Curry takes are, and still go in.
@@remnant8898 when Reggie was shooting majority of his 3s a guy would have a hand on him and no rule saying gotta give Reggie space to land. These guys get way easier shots than back than
@@FarmerDAtl Curry is probably the only guy that doesn't get real good looks at the basket when shooting a 3. And the difficulty of his shots is unparalleled.
Also, Reggie didn't always have a hand on him, because for the most part he was coming off a screen and had space to elevate and shoot.
@@remnant8898 ok so he was moving where you think Curry got it from and when I referred to hand on him it was legal to hand check so there was no face up and have space between Reggie and defender like today. They had a hand on Reggie they can t do that to Steph period it d be a foul
@@remnant8898 if nba allowed hand checking and called travel you know alot of these guys wouldn’t be star players
What does a signature shot matter to the greatest shooter argument?
Maybe Rob was taking a nap when Steph win game winners vs the Pelicans in the playoffs. Against the Thunder that still had KD & Russ.
Chauncey said KOBE is the most skilled!
Rob is right. Antonio Daniels having a bad day lol.
Rob has a valid argument to me. If u can't make that shot when the game is on the line, then how great are you?
Lol rob parker like starting fires man. No one has ever been able to shoot under any circumstance like steph,off the dribble,off the screen and from so damn deep.
Daniels talks fast
It’s been a while since rob lost an argument this bad
How can you have a debate about him being the greatest. For 2 reasons, he is shooting the most for volume as well as shooting at the top for percentage. Clutch is a different category but he is underrated as a clutch shooter although you can say Bird or MJ would be considered better but that could be because those two had very iconic moments with their clutch shots. This could also be because the entire world was watching those moments and today it is so much less.
I think they are getting hurt more because the game speed is so fast now
They need to bring the hand check back. It will slow the game down.
So fast with little D. I agree with Daniel's. Too much resting and trying to ramp the body up after resting
Antonio Daniels and The Cokehead "No no no no no" lol and him yelling. Son jump out of the window on that steph conversation..😅😅 and he was tight, when Chris moved the conversation to the Pelicans. Son was on crackhead over drive.
Steph is such a great shooter that he changed the entire way the game is played for teams to try and beat him
People forget about pistol Pete or Larry bird.
Even if you'd rather have other players take a shot in the final seconds of the game, that doesn't them the greatest shooter of all time. Ray Allen is genuinely one of my favorite players of all time and when Steph was on the come up, I was like damn this kid's really gonna be the one to overtake him as the greatest 3 point shooter of all time... I didn't know Steph would become what he has become, and change the entire sport, but I knew it from very early on. It just is what it is. Rob is right in theory, you can debate anything that isn't a fact, but you're not going to have a good enough argument to actually win a debate. Everyone knows it's Steph.
Does a fish fly in the woods? Does a bear fillet a fish before he starts eating? No….no they don’t.
My game on the line shooter is Larry Bird
Sam Cassell the best mid range shooter I’ve seen.
Two things can be true at the same time:
1. Steph is the best shooter ever.
2. He doesn't have those playoffs game-winning and/or game-tying shot moments.
Rob doesn’t know what’s going on
Growing up watching the NBA in the 2000’s, I never heard any of the all stars, superstars, heck even role players be considered “the best shooter ever.” Since when did that become a narrative? I think Steph is the greatest 3 POINT shooter because he was able to quickly surpass Ray Allen in several years and his art of pulling up from long range consistently… that’s his forte. But unfortunately he’s not clutch like Kobe and MJ are. Heck even Lebron!
“Most skilled basketball player ever”
Me: is Defense a skill cuz…😒
Why does Rob have such distain for Steph? He doesn't know how to separate his feelings from FACTS
The greatest shooter in the world doesn't mean a person making a shot in the final few seconds. That is two different arguments. If thats the case Robert Horry is the greatest shooter in the world cuz his clutch shots were 3s. Steve Kerr helped the bulls. Nash with the suns, Ray Allen helped save Lebrons legacy. Like come on. everyone tips their hats to Steph. Including those guys so what's to debate about. And for real for real, whose pre game regime is putting up shots for the tunnel or stands. Rob "STOP IT." lol
Yes. Debateable. Steve Ker has a better percentage by a few. They shoot more threes...and that should make the percentage higher...not lower, if hes the best ever.
No saving Skip...he's out there
Yeah he used ta b raw as far os on defense
It’s tricky cuz the straight up answer is no, he’s clearly the best shooter ever. Now where it gets dicey is Bird, Miller, Ray Allen etc.. didn’t practice and weren’t allowed to jack up a thousand three’s a game. So with that being said I’m sure those guys weren’t practicing three’s anywhere near curry. If the era was diff then who knows cuz those guys lit it up without trying
Bird. Miller. Al bundy.
I honestly think Ray Allen my favorite shooter ever would give curry a run for his money & he also hit clutch shots curry don’t lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rob sucks....... he been a steph hater>>>>> hella disgruntled old man activity
Skip needs rob parker
Answer the question rob 😭
If you can't make the shot when it counts it is debatable
It's not, but I just think Rob is operating from the standpoint that anything can be debated in the literal sense
"I didn't really know about it until somebody told me" - Larry Bird on being the first player to average 50-40-90
Dirk Nowitzki, Reggie Miller, Mark Price, Kevin Durant and Steph Curry are members of the club, but the first player to join it was Larry Bird
The Curry avalanche in under a minute… he is the fastest scorer in NBA history… quickest release, shoot over long defenders as well…
Stephen Curry is the only NBA player to average over five made 3-pointers per game for an entire season.
He is also the first player to average 40 points per game on 50 percent shooting through 10 games in a month since the great Wilt Chamberlain hit those thresholds in March 1963.
Steph (1) of ONLY three players in NBA history to average 25pts. 5rebs. and 5asst. on 55% shooting
A few notable reasons why he’s considered Rob Parker… your better than this Rob 🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾
Rob Parker ain't wrong on the late game playoff shooting, but everything else about Curry's shooting is so far beyond that flaw, he's still the greatest shooter to me
Game 6 in 2018
33 in the second half go look at them shots
Rob is a troll. Man couldn't even answer Antonio Daniels question
Who's shocked Rob feels this way?
No one lol. It's Rob
I've always said Zion and Wemby will dominate the next 10 to 15 years.