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- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker react to Jalen Rose's tweet calling out American-born basketball players saying that they need to work tirelessly and show discipline because NBA Jobs are becoming extinct.
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Anyone who grew up on NBA on NBC remembers Hannah Storm, Ahmad Rashad, Bob Costas and the iconic Marv Albert
I'm right with you
I miss Marv so much. His son, Kenny is pretty good though.
What about it
I love those guys
Yep... Storm n Rashad on "Inside Stuff"!!!!
Social media and this country’s absolute obsession with celebrity has in so many ways sent us straight into mediocrity literally as a society..
Absolutely 💯
It’s contaminated so many aspects of life
America is a lost cause now
Our education system made us mid a long time ago.
Social Media turned us into retarded wanna be's
So true!!!!
US college players care more about their social media status and "branding" than they do about mastering their basketball skills.
Get ya gm up.... stop relying and living on just athleticism and work on skills/ fundamentals
@@Ugkbaby214 Facts!
You hit the nail on head !!!
That social credit these days worth more than a chip ring. "chips come and go, but my followers are eternal" 😆
God bless you. And yet they are jealous of overseas players that spend more time mastering their craft
International players have won the last six NBA MVP's..
This past season they won the Rookie of the Year & Defensive Player of the Year NBA Awards.
I applaud them! They earned it!❤
Don’t forget two Finals MVP’s in the last two seasons
How many of the last 10 championships have they won. 2?? How are they supposedly the best if they are not winning the chip?
The original Dream Team was almost TOO GOOD. Europe got that beating and looked at the way those old school guys worked and said “that’s what we need to do.”
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard.
Great comment! 😎❤️
Stop it basketball was invented in the US so they had a pretty big head start which happens in all sports…such a dramatic take
"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard."
Which is why the US has won 6 out of 7 gold medals since the Dream team. And the only time they didnt, Kobe, Shay, Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Kevin Garnett and Jason Kidd couldnt make it for reasons from injury, weddings, summer surgery, to court cases 🤷🏾♂
David Stern changed the NBA so Europeans could catch up
@@lonnellgrigsby1367 They haven't caught up! Stop it.
American hoopers aren't hungry......30 plus years ago there was hunger on American basketball courts.....now NONE. Over seas nothing but hunger.......the hunger creates the drive and the competitive spirit.
The ability to get money earlier in life compared to back then makes a big difference. I’m for dudes getting paid using their talents at any level because someone is getting paid off of you so get yours first. But that doesn’t mean lose the hunger. TBH Ben Simmons is a major example of too much too early and it waters down the chance for others.
NBA is developping facilities in Africa and an african league. If Africans can have the opportunity and access to better youth development. Euros will be the least of Americans players problems 😅
@@akeemalston7506 Co-sign.
@@akeemalston7506 ben is Australian
@@akeemalston7506get the bag is it?
Chris really needs to listen to Rob. The 15 year old who is getting attention, women and money at that age is not going to give that up to learn the fundamentals. The 15 year old doesn't care about which country is teaching players better or who is going to win gold at the Olympics. They are living day-to-day. They are living in the now. Yes, someone needs to break through and teach these kids, but we have to change collectively as Americans.
The same issue is happening with actors as well. So many studios are choosing international actors over Americans because they actually go to school for years and learn how to act. They are far more versatile and experienced.
Chris is too busy screaming like he always does to actually listen to what anyone has to say. You're absolutely right, and it was the point Rob was trying to make.
The problem is these kids are getting WAY TOO MUCH. Zion Williamson got $75 million from Nike alone before he ever dribbled a ball in the NBA and could have received $100 million if he went to a Chinese brand. These guys are making more money THEN SOME **COUNTRIES** !!! Now, as someone who's watched the NBA since 1980, I can tell you all of the obvious flaws in all of these one and done kids. But I won't like: if I was in their position, I'd do the exact same thing, take the money.
Well the problem is these European players are coming to the NBA with the fundamentals our players used to get playing 4 years in college. If things continue, the NBA will most certainly belong to international players.
@@marcdaddy33bruh what
Nobody takes rob seriously for a reason
Lol this guy Evan Turner. It's so funny how Black folks feel they have this free card to be racist and or prejudice publicly but no other group does 🤷♂. Jokic is fun to watch. Guys that depend on strength and athleticism but are low on skill like Giannis are boring.
@@itshiho
Evan Turner saying Jokic is boring is racist? I don’t get the connection between his comment and Jokic’s race?
Karl Anthony Towns plays for the Dominican Republic so I guess he should be considered International as well.
He was born here in the states. His mom or dad is Dominican so he can play with them
@@motorcitymuscle3878born here try again
Correct he was born in the US and Dominican is a place not a race
He can play for whoever he wants he's still American.
Is American a race?
AAU (no fundamentals, )+ Ego (Premature celebrity) + Entitlement (money) = Downfall of USA basketball 🏀
Agreed!!!
What downfall?
It is the NBA'S fault by allowing this bring back college and real high school Basketball for the games sake and stop letting high school kids enter the draft at least 3 years of College and a Degree in Finance
No bullshit
Why do you think the AAU players have the issues you mentioned?
Notice how the international players aren't required to enrich their NCAA masters (while playing B-Ball for free).
There is no academic association with sports in Europe. America is unique that way. That’s why euros good enough for an athletics scholarship will come here.
Also. In Europe they don’t have the student athlete charade. From childhood the kids are in farm systems and they go to school separately.
Exactly.
they also dont have practice limitations
Social media has been the detriment of a lot of problems in American society. I would say the same thing for basketball at the grassroots level. Too much and too soon exposure with fame money and stardom not to mention social media and female love…hunger is gone when it’s sadly expected from American born players and is even throw Canada in there
We went through that very same thing up here in Canada with hockey and curling. We had to realize that most of the world has caught up to us and sometimes even surpasses us in ability, grit, talent and strategy. Excellent talking points gents.
English football (soccer) went through this decades ago too.
Still the best hockey players are Canadian.
@@rickd438 Top 10 points leaders this season; 1. Nikita Kucherov (Russia) 2. Nathan MacKinnon (Canada) 3. Connor McDavid (Canada) 4. Artemi Panarin (Russia) 5. David Pastrňák (Czechia) 6. Auston Matthews (USA) 7. Leon Draisaitl (Germany) 8. Mikko Rantanen (Finland) 9. J.T. Miller (USA) 10. William Nylander (Sweeden). Tell me again that Canadians are still the best....
@@bonehead797 Canada overall still has the most depth and talent as a team. Same thing in basketball for America. You will always have more talented individuals here and there but team wise, America is still the most talented in basketball. We’ll see hopefully at the next Olympic Games.
@@rickd438 But you said players not team, and I demolished your argument. And although we will always be a top team in the world, medaling has become a lot harder, we are not guaranteed to medal every time anymore. We barely beat Austria at these World Championships, it took us overtime to beat a team we used to spank by 8-10 goals every time.
The NBA is not what i grew up watching. You can’t play real defense without a foul being called every time someone defends the ball
🎯
Only the regular season. Did you watch that OKC/Dal series. They let Dort get away with so much against Luka. And you know what? I think fair play. I think it made the series better.
celtics and lakers don't foul
Every ERA says THEIR ERA PLAYED DEFENSE. I remember 06-10 and everybody saying nobody played defense. I saw clips of magic saying 'don't touch jordan it's a foul' in the 90's. Watch the full games, eras back then fouled the same way and touch fouls were called on jordan, kobe, AI etc all the time
@@mrfathed3129I agree they let them play in the playoffs which made it better to watch but you could see the players kept looking for calls because they aren’t use to physical play.
Sleep if you want. Look at other industries that African Americans used to dominate. It's increasingly becoming a rarity you can be some kid from Queensbridge or Bed Stuy and become a superstar rapper. African American actors are complaining about globalism and Brits and Nigerians competing for African American characters. We all have to compete globally at this point. The boss got more options now.
You're absolutely correct 💯
That's what happened with baseball
The boss will always have options 🤷♀️😂 but the options is the African Americans🤷♀️😂 just think about it it’s been 39 years and Kareem ( African American) still have his hands on the sport 😂 mj, magic 😂 when look in the movie business you have African Americans like Denzel, Samuel L Jackson, Morgan freeman that’s the OPTIONS
@@TheRecReportbut he didnt mentioned any euro player or actor that’s dominating 😂 as long as it’s a African American that’s BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE in any INDUSTRY everything’s else is irrelevant
NFL is the only sport that the regular guy still has a chance
The same media that's complaining now was also complaining then. Nobody knows what's a slippery slope until we're at the bottom
facts..... These same two will kill Lebron for passing the ball at times in the game. I hate that tierd phrase of "Playing the right way" too.
I don’t think it’s just basketball issue, but it’s about “get rich quick” culture and mentality that has been part of the social media society. There isn’t much emphasis or promoting of fundamentals or learning process from the bottom.
Not many could play or be in the bigger stage to be playing in arenas quickly or even at all. For many artists or comedians, they start from doing it small clubs and venues, and when they get that break, they get to perform in the big stage.
Good to dream big, but everyone needs to develop skills to be taught and take the years of development. I think that’s what’s been taken away with social media platforms and culture.
Yes. LeBron getting killed a few years back for passing to the open man instead of taking the game winning shot himself is peak Americana.
Why work for a solid career when you can post a dum dum TikTok and be famous in hours with no skills needed?
He's 100% right. Our guys are weak, entitled, unpolished, crybabies.
Yes compared to Luka and joker who cry to the refs all day and sga who flops all day
@@theblackbolt5514Luka, Jokic and SGA play hard EVERY NIGHT!!! they’re not load managing and trying to be IG models twerking.
anthony edwards disagrees
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@@Theycallmekenneywhat a pro wants what a pro needs
I think this is being overblown, honestly.
Rather watch a smart, crafty player that can shoot, make incredible passes, somebody with a post game, who can kill you going left or right, his footwork is insane. yeah, I'll take that any day over some guy who solely relies on his athleticism ...
Imagine if you had both, thinking basketball as well as the athleticism
Well u need athletisim to do that
@@ChiraqMaybach-ii9wm We used to, before this era.
@@sportjames23 facts
Every great player has both. Your comment is binary.
Number 1 talked about american rookie player Bronny James, I rest my case
he's not a rookie
not even in the nba yet
He’s supposed to apologize bc his dad is Lebron & people like you like to mention him good or bad
@@alonzojones9626 ???
Yeah but nothing to do with his skills dude…. 😂
Great point.
I really don't get the disdain for foreign players. Like who cares as long as they've earned the right to be where they're at. It's just ignorant to me.
It's jealousy, bigotry, xenophobia... in denial that the world has caught up to us.
Nobody hates jokic, he's fans are annoying tho. But luka? He's definitely annoying, crying about calls 24/7 , he's a white lebron.
@@hintssabbat I definitely agree about Luka, but Jokic gets tons of disrespect and hate from ppl in the media and retired players like Gil Arenas.
Yup , it’s usually black ppl hating “ racists “ . Imagine if the roles were reversed
Let that be said about a black player…
The American Highschool prospects are turning into rappers like wtf is Mikey Williams doing 💀
Getting locked up
He free lmao
Yes, the main problem is " da culture." But no one will say it.
Is he still in high school?!!
I thought he was studying to be an orthopedic surgeon... yes? 😆
Chris needs to stop saying the best players are no longer American of course they are but they're not ONLY American now. Just look at the final 4 teams: Boston has Tatum & Brown, Indiana has Halliburton & Turner, Minnesota has Edwards & Towns (and Gobert), and Dallas has Kyrie (and Doncic). I will say that most of the best big men are foreign born players: Jokic, Embiid, Gobert, Wemby, Porzingis, Sabonis, etc.
Domantas Sabonis is American stp it!!!!
@sourdiesel681 You're right he was born in Portland...hello is this thing on
Jalen Rose is talking about the UNDISCIPLINED FBA Basketball Player and his words are TRUE 💯
Exactly.
So why aren't these former NBA players going into coaching in College, High School, and AAU levels. They need to coach American players the right way instead of coaching them to be score first shooters
Less money and now you have to deal with the actual problem: the Parents!
because they arent getting hired to do so maybe
More times than not, great players don't turn out to be great leaders. MJ was a hell of a player, but he wasn't a good leader, same with Kobe and probably LeBron.
Most great players don't make great coaches. Most don't even try. A former player that has millions of dollars doesn't have to put up with the criticism and the attitudes coaches have to deal with these days.
@@LinwoodPowell dude ... stop talking about this topic
just watch "the last dance"
smh
The gap has certainly closed I think it's good for the NBA. I am from the Caribbean where cricket was invented by England and the West Indies team became a force to be reckoned with becoming the world best at one point. Now many countries play the sport. USA basketball is still alive no need to panick! Globalization means more money for the NBA and more opportunities for foreign players. There's a macro and micro perspective
True. Sir Garfield Sobers is the GOAT , imo
Kobe been said this
They are forgetting 1 crucial point.
Foreign players get drafted and get time to develop. American players almost always have to do well right away.
That’s spot on
Shut up ninja 🫵🏽 must be dumb to think like that ninja 🤣🤣🤣
Actually they are supposed to develop in AAU.... how's that working out for us?
@@greggibson33 AAU isn’t where players should develop. It should be college and then. The first 2 years in the pros. Dirk, Jokic, etc. Has had time to play. Wemby and Luka had to hop in right away. Lot of foreign players get drafted and play on their national roster for 2 years before fully committing to the NBA.
If you play against professionals at 16 years old then you actually have to develop your game to be successful. If you play against other high schoolers and you are supremely talented you don’t have to develop skills to dominate.
If you are a pretty good hs player on a decent aau team, you will get starter minutes, a small amount of college attention, and if you’re lucky you work with a personal trainer every week. or so.
If you are a pretty good international hs player of the same skill level as the american kid on the first example, you might be the best player in your town that anyone has seen. You will get the best coaching anywhere nearby with all the resources that town can afford you. You’ll get sent to your country’s professional team to play with them at 16 (Luka) where you will get professional coaching and unlimited development opportunity.
Better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond, and that’s why the Lukas, Embiids, and Giannis’s are going to be coming in droves.
I would bet the top 50-100 kids in every recruiting cycle get better training than Luka got at the same age. Outside of playing with the grown men which American kids have that option they just rarely choose to go over seas as top recruits. Lamelo did but I can't think of anyone else.
@@Travis89-ob5ttI think playing with older players in a environment with much tougher rules and learning things from coaches and teammates but also getting along with older vets helps international players because they learn the fundamentals in addition to being a focal point to a team and a locker room. Playing with players you're same age or slighty older with fancy trainers everywhere you go helps but if you're not learning the fundamentals and don't capitalize on all the otherworldly athleticism or traits you have that can lower or stagnate your potential. Anthony Edward's in this case due to being extremely hungry to fix his flaws is the exception to the rule: however I will say that's where guys like Jokic, Luka, Giannis, and Wemby stand out from those in their draft classes. Also Lamelo for a guy with his situation at the time did the right thing and maybe one day besides that rookie year we will see that the nbl did a lot for him as a player and a leader.
U.S. media has been trying really hard to hype Tatum, Morant, Ant etc as the best player in the league and it’s not working 😂
Lol facts
They are some of the best players and watch how ant man proves it against Dallas.
Ant is working….other two not really and Ja just bc the off court stuff.
It is working.. Jokic is out. Luka will follow. Your snowflake Euros are done, congratulations on ‘1’ year on top 😂 Hahaha
@@xionxxx3359Facts
I said it before: Jokic is CP3 but 7ft tall- how can you not love that?
Jokic doesn’t play good defense…
He doesn't play defense
Jokic plays against a lot of 6’10 centers😂😂😂
Former American Players are clutching their pearls and engaging in mild basketball xenophobia instead of working to fix the broken Basketball system in the united states. To be honest it's all very American so I'm not surprised, but I do wish the celebrity of Young players would go away. It won't. The cats out of the bag, but it would be nice if by some miracle young players were taught basketball instead of being told how great they are.
The only way to fix this is get rid of high school and college basketball. In Europe, good players get their GED and go pro at 15. High School/AAU/NCAA Division 1 isnt tough enough competition
100%. So want Luka to win to watch the rest of the black septics lose their racist little minds.
Jokic is boring has to be the worst take in the history of sports in my opinion. There is absolutely nothing boring about watching Jokic play. He like Duncan is unbelievable technically sound but he is so unorthodox in the way he goes about it. Its seriously like watching a bowling ball play basketball in the paint but then he is slick and graceful in the perimeter. Especially when Jokic has one of them nights. Game 3 was a top 3 performance of all time. As close to a perfect game you will ever see in Basketball.
Duncan was solid on defense.
Look at what happened in baseball. Now everyone is saying where are all the AA that used to come through like Ken Griffey or Willie Mays. A lot of them were raw talent and athleticism. Now people have huge resources to put into actual trainers from young. So this trend won't reverse.
There are more football and basketball programs in the AA community than baseball and soccer🤷🏽
@@gothamcity4206 you might be too young to remember a time where African Americans were very prominent in the game of baseball where you had huge African-American stars. However, as time has gone, baseball is pretty expensive for inner city kids where real estate to have baseball fields is not easy to come by. Also, baseball equipment is can be pretty expensive and camps. However, when you have a lot of the Latin countries, even though individually, some of these people may be poor. But as a country and the programs that they can put on to develop their kids, there's a lot more resources and everything so African Americans really stop even trying and going after baseball a lot basketball. You could just pick up a ball and go to a parking that's very cheap and easy and accessible. However, these days just picking up a boil and going to the park is not going to get you NBA ready anymore as other groups and other people are able to hire full-time trainers and staff to work on skills, train, etc. So the point stands you will see the same way that happened in baseball, a decrease in the amount of African American basketball players. Football is still a very uniquely American sport. However, you do have other communities starting to pursue football and compete in football as well so as other groups. Begin desire those spots more and compete for those spots more and African Americans have less resources to try to compete back. That is just a simple nature of it.
@@gothamcity4206no it wasn't AA were dominating baseball before any sport
Chris Broussard is exact! The development of the best NBA players begins at home with the parenting. It reflects what has been absent from the American home for a century, and the representation of the mother and father are vital roles for the wholeness of the NBA game. The reason the NBA is what it is today is simply because the fathering has been too far gone and defense has been obsolete as it has been in the homes of America. What Jalen Rose is reinforcing is the edge that American NBA players need in order to survive and keep the NBA game in this continent. (GET BACK TO BACK TO BASKET POST........"IT AIN'T HARD TO TELL" - Nas, THAT'S WHY EVERYONE IS POSTING ONLINE NOW.)😎
All these young USA hoopers trying be social media influencers, they ain’t got no time to be practicing fundamentals when there are more important things to consider … like how many followers they have on their instagram 😅😅🤣
Honestly that's really what it is my Guy. It's really unfortunate that the priorities have shifted😅😂 but yo everybody riding that influencer social media wave. It is what it is ya know
The problem is " da culture ".
What a lazy a$$ take! Everybody's on social media dum dum
@@pvl6340you might be right until to you realize the joker stay on social media 🤷♀️😂 him and those horses 🤷♀️ so what’s your point
@@pvl6340HONESTLY, BOTH OF YOU GUYS ARE STUPID! THE RULES OF THE GAME HAS CHANGED SO EURO PLAYERS COULD HAVE A CHANCE! THE GAME IS NOT PHYSICAL ANYMORE, NO DEFENSE IS BEING PLAYED AND THAT SUITS THE WYTE OWNERSHIP AND EURO PLAYERS! BRING BACK THE 80’s & 90’s STYLE OF PLAY AND EUROPEAN PLAYERS WOULD NOT LAST HALF THE SEASON!!
Go look at baseball too. It’s not a game in the DR and Venezuela. It’s life or death. Cuba too
Some people don’t like the fact that there are foreign “plumbers” who are currently dominating the game, and defeats their argument when they question Jordan being the greatest of all time because he was playing with who they call American “plumbers”.
Edit: remember when kids walk around with a basketball saying Ball Is Life? The love for the game has been slowly dying.
We had this when you pretty much had to play for your local HS. There may have been a parochial or second chance option in a larger City, but old school NBA stories included a ton of heavy handed HS coaches putting an up and coming star in their place. There is even the joke that the last two people to hold Michael Jordan to less the 20 PPG were Dean Smith and Bobby Knight.
American players don’t have no dignity, desire and discipline no more. Too pampered and spoon fed without any accountability in them. Give everything handed to them without earning it especially when you gotta grind through the top. European players have respect in my books.
European players are allowed to become professionals as teenagers, the US obviously doesn't allow that. All that stuff you said American players don't have is BS, European players can barely play defense and the league makes it harder and harder to even play defense. If the NBA allowed players to play defense again Europeans would become liabilities quick.
@@904TallerTim they have better fundamentals
Facts and Americans like Europeans because they can demean them without any consequences. American Blacks fights back@@904TallerTim
Exactly. In your book. God only knows what is driving your bias.
Dude be quite you don't know what the hell you're talking about
Tatum, Brown, Ant, Brunson, Halliburton, Zion, Ja, Chet, D Mitchell, Booker, Fox, Maxey, Jalen, Paolo, Trae, Lamelo are all American born and under 30. The league has no shortage of up and coming American stars. It’s just that the top 3/4 weren’t born here but even Embiid and Shai played HS ball in America and went to Kansas and Kentucky.
Ive been saying this for years. Intelligence, maturity and discipline are winning in many sports. In CFB, coaces are showing much less patience for immature, problematic players.
That’s the Giannis treatment!!!! He can’t shoot, but no can stop him! Just pure Jealousy 😢😅!!!
The best ones at a young age are so soft and pampered it's destroying American sports. They peak in high school and then it's all downhill for a lot of them. Now they're making millions in college football just to sign with a team. I'm sure that will be great for the long-term success of these kids. Daddy pimping them out to the highest bidder then tell them transfer after year 1 because they're not starting. College sports is a mess right now.
It’s still better than what it was before. Better to get “pimped” by your father and help the family than to get pimped by your millionaire College coach for NOTHING
I guess as long as they're still getting they're degree. That should always be most important. Some of these guys jump ship with no life boat thinking they're better than they are and they sit in the portal till it closes then poof there goes everything they had a month ago.
@tjleaf3510 you call getting to showcase yourself for the NBA and free education, nothing?
@@soda8736lol the old free education line haha getting paid in books. Lol them coaches like getting paid in dollars not books and the players caught on
@jaahnnn I wonder if you told the ancestors of some of the players a free education was just books.. Also the coaches have to pay for their own living quarters and are considered emplyess, so why wouldn't they get paid? Also I'm sure the people leaving school with 40000 in dept would love to not have that.
KAT maybe born and raise in USA but didnt play for USA for international competition
Agree on these
The same thing happened within America.
When I was growing up, New York was the basketball mecca and all of the great ones where coming out of there.
Then everybody else caught up and surpassed New York.
Now nobody comes out of New York.
New York street ball doesn't prepare you for anything.
NEW YORK HAD GREAT PLAYERS COME OUT OF THERE, BUT THEY NEVER DOMINATED LIKE YOU IMPLYING!
@@firsteyebeats2617 You are too young.
This topic is irrelevant, A.E, JT, Tyrese Hali are all American born players. Currently playing at high level in playoffs.
Technically SGA and Murray are American born players because Canada is in North America along with the USA🤷🏽
Do you understand what the warning about “going extinct” means?
Karl Anthony Towns is Dominican as well
He's American. He plays for DR due to his mother's heritage. But he was born and raised in the US.
@@BirdLives7 Facts he's a brotha fasho!!!
It was Jasmes Naismith a Canadian teacher who invented the game of basketball in 1891 Springfield, Massachusetts.
This is 💯
The objective of basketball basically is put the ball through the hoop. How that's accomplished whether it's boring Jokic or exciting Kyrie. I don't care. This kind of reminds me of the line in White Men Can't Jump from Woody Harrelsons character. Black players would rather look good and lose rather than look bad and win. That's how Evan Turner sounds.
They got six great European players. He acting like he’s 40. then most of these dudes played college ball in America.
5/6 of the top 10 picks this year will be international. Next year Nolan Traoré (France) will be #2 maybe number 1.
I agree with this conversation. The European and other foreign players come from fundamental backgrounds and humility. The media has so much to do with the players egos in America. Teams seem to respond to what's written. Bronny James is an example. Seems to be a good kid. Respectful, humble, manners and very likeable. However his name has no business been mentioned as an NBA player at this time for any reason. The girls college game is the best basketball game in America right now for many of the reasons mentioned. In two or three years they will mess the girls game up also. It is now the America way.
Well what people don’t really talk about is a lot of these players are born in the us or move here very young but are labeled international players because there parents are not American they still play aau etc like when I think of Canadian players they don’t feel international like Jamal Murray Shai rj Barrett Dillon brooks etc but guess we will in the future how it shakes out
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Per Mr. Rose great advice✌️
I saw Jalen rose at the super bowl after party when the ravens beat the niners in new orleans after the power outage delay and then on ESPN the next morning at 7am, dude knows how to grind
Jalen said What others were afraid to say
This Broussard kat seems to love the sound of his own voice
Well he's a talk show host so what he's supposed to like duh
@@anthonytaylor7928 Well, he could let the other "talk show host" finish a sentence and stop interrupting. Not sure what that has to do with being a "talk show host"...duh
2:25 ppl said the same thing about Tim Duncan, but I love watching the Spurs play back then
The majority of people didn't like the spurs or watch them. Great team
They started doing the same thing to baseball players in the mid 1990"s.
The Problem is when we changed the rules to make it softer, overseas were still playing the 90s model, so when the come to America the game is too easy. No jand checking, weak in the post. Bring back 90s rules especially defensive motivation instead of all 5 players a 3pt shooter.
ngl i think Chris Broussard cares about the european takeover way more than anyone else. I watch a lot of sports talk shows, and talk to nba fans irl and online and none of them talk about it like Chris
Chris is kind of a black nationalists , so he feels the NBA is a Black American thing
He’s low key racist , imagine the roles were reversed
spell out the words homie
Spelling is a skill.
The all star game, not just the rising stars game, should be like the Ryder Cup of Golf: Americans vs. The World.
*none of the international players were super high draft picks*
And panned out. I think the diced just rolled that way. I can see if joker was #1 pick or Giannis #1. These guys developed. So it's more about working on your game and lucking up
It’s all so overblown. There’s 4-5 foreign born players that are great and just because they’re better than American players they’re “taking over” the league.
Luka/Jokic/Giannis/Embiid/SGA/Wemby already in the League, Sarr/Risacher/Topic are top10 picks in this years draft, Sarr/Risacher will be the 1st and 2nd pick. 5 of the currently projected Top10 picks in 2025 are also international. Its just starting my friend... its just starting!
well its a start isnt it?😂 there was never an era in nba where top 3 players are from overseas., gianis jokic and luka. so its gonna happen in the near future if the young amerivan hoopers dont step up
Right now Tyler Hero is top 3 or 5 best american WG in the league.
My 14-year-old plays on this rec team during the Spring. This year, the coach brought in another coach and 3 of his kids from a former NBA players AAU team, one of the kids being the former players' son (not going to say his name). You could tell right off the bat they were trained to be iso players. It was crazy to see the disparity in how they played vs the original team members. They took turns going iso. The original players have always shared the ball and played team ball. They looked like fish out of water standing around watching dudes and coaches calling for clear outs. It was horrible basketball to watch.
I loved watching Duncan and I love watching the Joker. Kyrie and AntMan are definitely fun to watch. just because a guy's game isn't flying around doesn't make him not fun to watch. Good basketball is good basketball.
I wish we’d get out of this international vs. native basketball players narrative. It does the league/fans no good honestly.
European players are not fundamental sound. What the nba is doing is changing the way basketball is played so international players can play in the nba.
I'm more keeping an eye on the merging of the two styles of basketball and it's becoming a bit more old school overall in the playoffs
Tbh if your top 5 your top 5 period, shouldn’t matter where your from or get better it’s that simple. Jalen sounds salty cause he’s not on tv anymore
Our biggest weakness is entitlement... that's why we are soft
Whoever doesnt enjoy Jokic playing doesnt love basketball, he is the definition of a pure basketball player
He's not pure because he doesn't play defense
He has no competition that’s why I don’t enjoy it. At least Duncan battled against Shaq and kd
@@anthonytaylor7928 Americans always think that highlight worthy blocks is the only criteria for defense but its not, defensive rebounds,deflections and steals are also part of 'defense'
Nba players used to go to college for 2-4 years and come into the nba as grown men knowing how to play. The trend towards the league being what it is now began when the skipping college or one and done began
Eastern European players, African players & other international players have a hunger that cannot be matched. US born players may know struggle, but international players have not only unmatched hunger and access to player development that US born players don’t have. They become professionals at a much younger age. No equivalency.
It is a sign of the times, American culture is dead and it is showing in many areas and facets of life
lol bull and you wish
Ant Man can change that. get rid of the AAU system it has destroyed basketball. Make them do 2 years of college first before going to the NBA. They have no people skills. It's the times we live in. Ben Simmons is like watching paint dry. It's sad watching 7 footers playing PG what has happened to the game it's positionless
Why should going to college be tied to it at all? That weeds out many American athletes who may not have the high school gpa, especially if their career will be playing pro basketball and they have the skills. The European players are in those pro leagues as teens so why shouldn't the US have a similar system. They have that time to develop as players playing with adults. We need more American basketball leagues aside from the NBA, even if they are smaller.
@@TheRecReport Maturity these dudes have no people skills. They play AAU never learn fundamentals. It's literally like watching street ball. It's position less Centers and Point guards have switched rolls. Everybody is a Shooting guard. Bigs have no post game.. Kobe said it. Europeans are taught fundamentals all you dudes look for is how athletic a person is not can he set a screen or box out.
Ben Simmons is from Australia tho?
Jokic is one the best offensive players of all time, Evan Turner isn’t watching the games
He’s just a hater.
folks keep exaggerating this stuff...The Wolves are led by an American, the Mavs both both an American and Euro...While both Boston and IndianaP are led by Americans
And a African(Siakim their second best player)
Elephant in the room is black basketball players vs international white players. Embid, Giannis, Murray, Siakham, etc have skill sets of the black American basketball player. It's the Joker and Luka whom have fundamental skill sets of the white international basketball player. The white or non-black player, whether internationally or American born, will always have a place in the NBA but they won't be the majority again. Up tempo play drives ratings and sales.
That is a fascinating take
I dont think its skillsets as much as I think its culture.
Well said but black American they need to stop crying like babies and level up they game.
Jokic and luka are anomalies who knows when will see another joker and luka after they retire. When bird retired it took us 40 yrs to get a dirk.. who imo is not on the level of a bird luka or jokic..
Bird retired in 1992 and Dirk was Drafted in 98…
Why would the young players listen to the O.G.s? The term "old head" is NOT a compliment. Players have no respect for the elders. And a lot of the times, the elders don't know how to mentor in a way that respects the manhood of the young people.
I partially agree with this topic. The American AAU circuit vs international play is night and day. Playing against grown men and developing overall skills has given international players a push. But only for a few players. Jokic, Luka, Wemby, and Sabonis. Players like Embiid, Murray, Giannis, Shai are technically foreign players, but they learned their game in the United States. I agree that the US born players should develop their skills over playing hundreds of games. But the United States still has the edge. Skills vs Talent is the name of the game.
Rob Parker’s Brady remarks made him famous. But after listening to him on certainsubjects, it’s pretty entertaining. I never thought I’d say this, but I’m a fan.
Seventy five years of the NBA and you have Dirk, Giannis and Jokic who’ve led their teams to a single title. I guess you can toss Olajuwon in there, but he honed his craft in the US and won during Jordan’s retirement. Everyone is acting like Americans have fallen off. Doncic is left in the postseason because Kyrie came back cooking lol. Other than that it’s Ant, Tatum and Haliburton. Pretty sure those dudes aren’t Polish.
I don't know why they keep pushing this stupid narrative international players have been able to play in the nba for at least 50yrs how many titles and mvps do they have combined
Europeans wasn’t playing in the NBA 50 years ago stop the cap.
The really start coming in early 00’s.
Don’t need to lie
@@yvans.Swen Nater played in the 1970’s.
@@zvbx The difference is back then the money wasn't worth justifying leaving your home and family behind, there wasn't instant communication half way across the world like we have now. There was no calling your parents to check up on them, there wasn't any keeping up with friends, smartphones weren't around. Would you risk a comfortable life at home doing well for yourself playing a sport for a living to go to somewhere you had nothing, couldn't speak their language and had no friends? It's only been relatively recently that the world has made a massive effort into learning English with the domination of American media. A lot of those issues have changed in recent times, which is why we're seeing the current trend that we are. It's not that Europeans have suddenly learned how to play basketball it's that there were non-basketball related circumstances that prevented them having the impact they do today.
@@randomuruk7230 None of that stopped Swen Nater and yes I’d go somewhere if I didn’t speak the language because if interested I’d learn the language and make new friends if i chose to. There’s Major League Baseball players and NHL players that don’t speak English or French today but they still come to North America to play. Now a better example that you could have used is the fact that several of the basketball players from certain European could not just up and play here because of the way things were politically at that time and for some them life was not necessarily comfortable as you say.
@@zvbx Jesus christ this is by far the most delusional comment I've seen in a good year. Swen Nater was brought to America after a tv show found out he was abondened in an orphanage as a 9 year old by his mother and step-father who immigrated to America, he didn't even know what basketball was. You wouldn't learn the language, because you wouldn't even have a concept of what it's like. You'd be ostracised for your inability to communicate and most likely looked down on (the story of pretty much every immigrant ever).
"There’s Major League Baseball players and NHL players that don’t speak English or French today but they still come to North America to play"
You conveniantly left out the fact that's in the modern era with smartphones, translators, instant communication with family and friends back home, social media boosting stock which increases job security, them making enough money to basically travel home and back everyday if they really wanted to etc.
Basketball is now an international sport with multiple professional leagues around the world. Young kids are being inspired in many countries to play and so it's to be expected that they will aspire to eventually play in the best league, the NBA. (Euro-league, Spain's Liga ACB, Turkish Basketball Super League, Russia VTB United League, Germany's Basketball Bundesliga to name a few)
After the 9 minute mark...preach chris!!!
I guess we will see if the NBA can function and make profit as an international league. The question is how much Americans will be watching?
Stop it😂 Americans were watching the NBA before international players were in the league 😂 one thing you should know about America and Americans is NBA, NFL, MLB will always be watched
@@devontacosby8593 I’m not sure. I am picking the argument to the extreme but if the Pistons, or Hawks, or Pacers one day have all international players, that will affect domestic consumption. Americans aren’t that open minded. Are Americans watching foreign leagues now?
@@Dustyphoto915 bro stop it🤷♀️😂 Americans are watching the foreign players that’s playing a America sport 😂😂 you don’t see Americans playing rugby, soccer 🤷♀️ just think about it the joker won a championship and a African American ( GOAT JAMES) was getting more attention and recognition 😂 to the poor coach Malone was emotional about it 😂 WHEN YOU HAVE AFRICAN AMERICANS THATS BETTER everything else is irritating
@@Dustyphoto915 see you using the IF FACTOR 😂 that’s like wishful thinking 😂 you have to understand all through history and life AFRICAN AMERICA HAS BEEN THE MONEY, ATTENTION, THE REASON WHY THE SPORTS ARE GOING
Your right
Jokic is exciting to watch! Amazing skills!
After game 5 vs the wolf’s I can watch the joker 💯 5:40 great point I say this all the time !
Bottom line: entitlement. ok, so you can jump over a Kia. Thats useless in a game. Sure athleticism can be critical but talent, hard work, skill and brains still matter. Look at US heroes: Ja and Ky. Ja hasnt played in 18 months and Ky is in his redemption arc like crazy. Guys dont want to win. They want to win THEIR way. Ky hit one shot 8 years ago.
So current American Players are the White Players from the 60s, 70s?
And Foreign Players are the African American Players of the 80s, 90s, and so on?
I get what you saying and now Europeans in the 2020s era
Euros are no where near as dominant as African Americans were. Pretty much all the good American players now are African American. The African American population is only about 42 million the white population of America is about 250 million , The population of Europe is 740 million. So African Americans are still really dominating considering their tiny population. Latino and Asian Americans despite together being a larger population than black Americans are virtually non existent in the NBA.
@@terryf3282Yet Germany just beat USA in the world cup and they don't even take basketball seriously. You put the best euro players vs American players and the euro team will dominant the primarily black Americans players. Just like boxing nowadays.
@@brianhenry7983 no they won't
@@brianhenry7983 nobody cares about FIBA
No single country is producing any where near more talent than America its not even close.
Facts they overstate everything.
They don't have to produce more talent. They just have to produce better talent in small doses. Twenty years ago, nobody would have been able to picture the top 5 to 6 players in the league being international players. But here we are. Twenty years ago, the idea of 6 straight MVPS going to international players would have been laughed out. But here we are. If America is not careful, another 10 years will go by and the top 20 - 25 players in the league will be international players.
You guys eybl amd 3ssb has about 20 percent foreign players, expected to go to 50 in the next 2 years. They are recruiting basketball without border kids, Australian and New Zealand pipeline kids and we haven't even touched France and Spain.
Look at college rosters, you will be surprised at the non Americans
Yeh America does produce the most basketball talent. What is mindblowing it virtually all comes from the African American population. There are hardly any really good white American basketball players and are there any latino American basketball players?
@B.Piercesports No single country has to equal the talent. There are about 500 jobs in the NBA, the rest of the world just has to produce 250 more talented players for half the NBA to be international - you don't think that's possible in say the next 10 yrs?
Shout out to the great Chris Broussard. Fellow Oberlin baller. I played with the great “Satch” Sullinger at Oberlin
Truth is high school coaches are not teaching position less basketball. The AAU circuit are doing the same. Over seas players can play multiple roles. They are not fancy just mechanically sound.