Star Trek: Picard Season 3, Episodes 8, 9, and 10 - re:View
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Mike and Rich's wildest dream has come true. After 30 years the Enterprise D has returned with the Next Generation crew at the helm. Y'all got yours now we get ours. If you got a complaint please email it to - Zábava
Going from thumbnails of Mike and Rich in unholy torment to a completely normal thumbnail, what an arc
😂😂
I've been unironically more invested in this journey over the 3 seasons than I have been any TV show or movie to drop in the last 10 years.
Red Dead Redemption
They've earned it. After all they've earned themselves a nice little closer/cleanser.
now this is how you subvert expectations
Mike genuinely looks about 5 years younger during this review.
Matalas did it. He breathed new life into a dying Stoklasa.
There's hope for the Stoklasa clan yet
And now we get Section 31 to kill it again!
it reminds me of that one episode of _Star Trek: The Next Generation_
He reminds me of a young Dr. Noonian Soong!
He'll revert back to reminding me of an old, decrepit Dr. Noonian Soong in no time.
MATALAS AND STOKLASA, AT TANAGRA!
MATALAS, HIS EYES OPEN
Rich losing it on the "two women that gave Riker the most trouble" line was comedy gold!
Everything aligned for that joke. The line from Mike, implying that Riker benefited from their deaths, the montage of Shelby and Laren giving Riker shit and getting killed in Picard, the close-up shots of Riker's expressions, Rich's cackling on a loop in the background. Perfect!
It takes some true nerd knowledge to put all of that together. If the writers did that intentionally I want them to write Star Trek for the rest of their lives.
48:10
Chekov wasn't the only cameo. In episode 2, it's referenced that a lawsuit has been made to a toilet. Sue loo
Elnor being unceremoniously killed off screen is just so hilarious to me idk why
Yes you do, we all do. And it is hilarious.
Died in Iraq. Sad.
@@wattsvilleblues The actor?
@@TaCo0oCaT The character. Just being sarcastic.
Matalas has said he didn't write him to be on the Excelsior(i.e. he forgot about him) so he might not be canonically dead.
I'm just glad these senior citizens finally got an enjoyable story to watch in their twilight years
LMAO
Twilight years? What are you, twelve? They're in their thirties, aren't they?
@@markspyrison9659 No! They're ironic teenagers you hack fraud!!
@@markspyrison9659 They're in their early 40s, it's a joke ya dingus
@@markspyrison9659 you mean like Picard guessing his son's age a few episodes back? lol
Rich and Mike actually LIKING a piece of new star trek content was NOT on my 2023 bingo card.
Word!!
"Made Mike and Rich happy" is a higher achievement than winning an Emmy; Terry Matalas has basically won at creating Star Trek.
How long have you been holding on to that bingo card young one👴🏽👴🏽
It's shocking that a franchise that took the stance of alienating and hating on their fanbase actually took a 180 and actually gave the fans what they wanted instead. I mean it's like the first one to do it I think, cause all the other ones I can think of are just doubling down on hating on their fans.
@@Too_many_thoughts I mean he said it was a 2023 card... So 4 months
"I want Star Trek to be a beacon of hope that will hopefully inspire real-life people to be better." Thank you brother Rich! That is why we Trek.
It precisely is.
@@OCDustin 🖖
Global space communism lol
“I want the D” -Rich Evans
“I want the D” -Rich Evans
You know, one thing I appreciate in every Star Trek review video is the consistently strange clips of Wil Wheaton being the most awkward and bizarre human on the planet.
All those member berrys, Crusher's child, and no Wesley in sight...
@@sladewilson9741 There were episodes I liked him in. Esp when he was at the academy and there was a big drama. Then he grew up and became a disgusting neckbearded blob that sounds fake every time he talks.
I’m so glad he was left out of this. You know Will the total bell end was devastated by it and that’s a sweet image to think of.
The only way they could have made it better would be to give Wil's parents cameo roles to rub salt in the wound.
Shill Wheaton
Rich saying that he’s not just a member of RLM, but is also a fan and wants to see Mike’s movie was delightful.
This also explains why Mike tortured Rich at the end.
Mike writing some weird love letter to Rich through editing and using Wesley Crusher as his puppet to voice his love for his friend has got to one of the most bizarre demonstrations of affection I've seen in awhile.
It's beautiful though- when an ape can communicate so poetically through editing
Considering he turns friend into a sociopath space cop and a movie loving serial killer, this is just par for the course.
Underrated comment
They're Sam and Frodo, but they're both Sam & Frodo.
@@mat778 touche!
Rich describing how, as he watched episode 9, he was just smiling and laughing out of sheer joy despite being a cynical bastard is a perfect description of me watching Mike and Rich in these re:views.
Rich might be a cynical bastard but you can tell he has a good heart deep down.
I don’t think the show creators realize how significant an endorsement from red letter media is
@𝐓𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐧 someone else said "underrated comment" way up in the replies of something generic and this is actually the winner
i get this vibe every episode i've watched since the fallout of the last big star wars trilogy started midway through (so for like the last five years) but i keep watching RLM because if you don't think about that it's not there and the guys are always as entertaining
It's kind of sad though considering how bad Mike's takes are on this show. It's awful, but he likes it? So strange. Meanwhile he hates Strange New Worlds despite it being the best new Trek show since DS9..
@@hannibalb8276 He’s being consistent. He’s always pointed out the inconsistencies, illogical decisions by characters, and occasional plot holes of the Star Trek he likes. You can’t really be a ST fan if you get hung up on these things.
"I sure hope old faild movie school graduates love me"... sure bro
@@sparkpenguin you legally have to point out any paid endorsements. Conspiracy theorists everywhere! Like, sure guys. You're saying they're getting paid to say good things about this show (late to the party, on top of it) while also shitting on CBS's more focused investment of every new Kurtzman show coming out next? It's a big ol' plan or something? Right. Are the Dimlumaniti involved too?
Rich saying "I'm not just a member of RLM, I'm a fan and I want to see you finish [your project]" to Mike is genuinely one of the nicest moment between these two men I've seen on camera.
this and the moment Rich gave a multiple choice answer to Mike when he failed to answer to a question about Wes Craven new nightmare
His kindness was repaid with this 1:14:28 poor Rich.
@@Mckadow You befriend a Rich Evans so you can make it roll down a hill 20x wearing a t-shirt for maximum forearm injuries.
While we're being wholesome, Mike's love for Rich is shown in all the jokes he carefully constructs just to make Rich laugh.
The "Riker's fanfic" is just one of many, many examples.
I like the comment but will not like because it's at 666 and I don't want to ruin that
Nothing better than Mike spending 10 minutes of a Picard review to recap an old TOS episode.
The show within a show trope learned so artfully from the Menagerie
Five of which were an argument about where and when we had a Mugato sighting.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Classic Mike 👍
...and totally misrepresent it as somebody who wasn't alive at the time would.
Alex Kurtzman must be rage shitting in his private bathroom at the studio lot after seeing how Season 3 worked out so well
Would he understand that it did?
A few years ago Stephanie Czajkowski was diagnosed with three different types of unrelated cancers within an 18-month period. She stuck with the bald head and it's a great look for a Vulcan!
wow what a cool fact. thanks for the info!
I thought you were going to say she had licked one of those plates...
I feel like the most beautiful (but likely unintentional) middle finger to Kurtzman was in the live Q&A that aired after the IMAX finale screening: Pretty much all of the actors on the panel praised Matalas profusely.
None did so to Kurtzman.
Both Kurtzman and Matalas were on the panel. 😂
That sounds like required viewing for Trek fans to me.
They're paid for praising Matalas. Like they all praised John Logan until after the run of Nemesis was over.
@@humankirk9196 or maybe they liked it and thought he did a great job? 🤷🏾♂️
@@humankirk9196 Who's paying you to be a bucket of misery?
@@humankirk9196 While I’m normally the Debbie downer, they would have been paid to praise both of them, not leave one completely out.
Obviously if you introduce Chekhov, you're required to reference him in the end. That's screenwriting 101.
bang
Chekhov's Chekhov
This post is top tier literary humor.
Isn’t it weird they didn’t even mention that combining Anton Yelchin and Pavel Chekhov is also a reference to Anton Chekhov
@@ethanbarker9811 I mean these are the same guys who didn't realize the Northman was based on the same source material as Hamlet and were comparing it to Gladiator instead, not like we can expect them to know what Chekhov's patronym was.
"We just can't pay these guys off for a good review. They're principled men of honor; and Rich Evans"
"So what are we going to do if we can't pay off these critics?"
"Well, I guess the easiest thing to do is just make a reasonable season of Star Trek"
"You know, Trevistan, it's so crazy it just might work"
Terry Matalas saved this season as showrunner. I loved the whole season and I really hope he does Star trek Legacy.
Its fucking crazy how little Paramount Executive direction understands their golden IP. Giving Kurtzman the helm basically illustrates that people that run the show watched "Lost" and actually liked it. Giving Matalas the helm at the 11th hour is history repeating itself. SMe way Enterprise S3 had Many Coto attached, and that was the best season as it was cancelled. Fuck.
Is there any reason our boys ahvent talked about Strange New Worlds
@@lucamagnani5243 they just don't seem interested.
Yeah they need to just give him the keys to Star Trek. He gets it. Picard season 3 felt like proper modern Star Trek and not just because of the familiar characters
He didn't save it. As a fan of Berman era Trek Picard season 3 was abhorrent. The actors are too emotionally expressive ( in stark contrast to TNG), there's too much violence, and ridiculous things like that portal gun. It's unwatchable.
ST:Prodigy is the only good new Trek.
The cuts to Will Wheaton faux personality never ceases to make me laugh.
What is with that? Why is he talking like that? It's so obviously fake and performative. I can't watch anything he does.
You know at least a few cast memebers roll their eyes with him. Always calling it “his family” “his friends” if you watch the interviews they never even mention him.
He acts way to fake excited about everything, I don’t understand how he keeps
Getting shows.
@@jeffosoft he’s hard to watch because he is so fake.
Is it a faux personality if it has completely replaced his personality and it's all he knows now?
@@Kasaaz He even acts with that faux sincerity voice now. I could not watch his scene in the 2nd season finale because it was so cringe.
Riker getting to see the two women who rejected him die is perfect 😂
Ro slept with him in at least one episode. He wasn't rejected by them. They just gave him lip like others never dared to.
@@noneya3635 tbf, the whole crew had amnesia when that happened
@@noneya3635 to be fair she didn’t know why she slept with him she thought she had lust for him but she just couldn’t stand him
Did they hire the guy that does the fan remixes to actually produce something for this review?
na, they acted on their mutual attraction in that episode, since they had memory loss and didn’t know the implication it had
“No one got gigantically fat.”
[Cuts to pensive Rich Evans]
A pox on the editor’s house for besmirching Rich Evans’ fine name and full figure!
I was scrolling to see if I was the only person who noticed that... definitely on purpose
Every wheaton cutaway was just, pure gold. And that end
Holy shit was it worth almost 3h of content
I love the intercuts having Whil Wheaton just nodding along. Never gets old.
It would be awesome if RLM could do an entire series intercut with Wesley footage - it could be named 'The Journal of the Whills'.
Agreed
I love watching RLM be miserable and tear terrible things apart as much as anyone, but I really enjoyed watching you two be so happy for once.
Great pallet cleanser. Next week it's back to unholy schlock.😈
Honestly Worf preferring the weapon systems on the E seemed in character to me. I got a good chuckle out of that line too.
... any warrior like Worf prefers the best weapon or ship so ok to criticize old Enterprise..... . Only hobbyists value charm over firepower... Rich clearly is not a warrior... Rich is whatever Phlox was, a excited weirdo who stays away from hi pressure situations....
It seem in character to me too. Technically if you look at TNG history, Worfs ideas were hardly ever considered and usually a bad idea due to his impatients. Even though they made him wiser now amongst the inexperience, its a funny callback that he is still probably not the wisest amongst his peers. Also it took his crew to grow more patient in the first place.
jmjm
Who gives a crap about in character. I don't like all the stuff I love being replaced, and then being told how the new stuff is so much better. It aint.
I couldn’t take anything Worf said seriously because he looks like that dude from Kill Bill making fun of the old wise kung fu master trope with his eyebrows and sword behind his back. Totally took me out of it
Season 1&2 was so terrible it makes Season 3 passable
Picard missing the carpet of the Enterprise is the most he's acted like Jean Luc Picard this entire show.
Yeah, I’m just pretending that season 1 and 2 were a bad dream induced by too many death sticks (sorry-wrong franchise) and the show known as “Picard” is simply a mini-series consisting solely of Season 3!
You know, back at the academy....
RIGHT?
@@jamesphillips4599 Too bad it still puts money in Kurtzman's pocket. And caused Section 31.
A little nod of recognition to the D bridge set crew working hard for six months to get two days of shoot with the TNG crew.
Wil Wheaton is so humble to guest in this Picard review by two elderly mental patients
Wil Wheaton is just a collective hallucination of two elderly mental patients.
I like how he played an arrogant asshole nerd kid with a smirk that you wanted to punch him in the face in original TNG.
And he still does that now and I still feel that about him.
Really good acting :)
@@cyberiankorninger1025 Remember the episode where everyone was playing the hot new video game, Worm Discs Harrier, and were like "hey Wes, wanna be cool and play this game with us?" and he was like "nah fam I don't like video games. I'm going to go sit in the dark in my room and do some math instead!"
What kind of teenager in the 90's didn't like video games?! What kind of teenager didn't want to fit in with everyone else??
They wrote the poor kid to be hated. Remember the "shut up Wesley!" line Picard yelled at him for doing what Picard asked him to do? "Data seems sus, Wes keep an eye on him." "Roger sir!" Then later: "Sir, I'm pretty sure this isn't Data." "SHUT UP LITTLE TURD BOY!"
@@BMoser-bv6kn your correct my main point was I hate his actual persona and WW today not Wesley Crusher :)
Data's aging was already taken care of in the show. S07E10 "Inheritance" Geordi talking to Data, Crusher, and Riker in sickbay while examining Data's android mother: "It's part of her aging program. Not only does she age in appearance like Data, her vital signs change too."
Just a little Next Gen trivia that a lot of people miss!
Fun fact: if the President's called Anton Chekhov and he's the son of the TOS character, then his full name would be Anton Pavlovich Chekhov. And that is literally the name of the writer which the TOS character was named after. Indeed, there's a lot of Chekhov honorings.
Homage to the late Anton Yelchin who played Chekov in the reboot movies. Very nice touch.
You know Mike cried a single tear when Majel Barrett’s voice returned as Ship’s Computer
I did too 😢
Yeah I totally cry nerd tears too when I hear AI facsimiles of Voices I Know™ too
@@synnovevikstrom9841 Pretty sure that voice clip was ripped straight from TNG? She has had plenty of lines as the ship computer, over the years.
@Synnöve Vikström you must be super enjoyable to be around.
Someone tells you something they like and you shit all over it. Amazing attitude
@@IrisCorven if that's indeed the case that's great, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was some AI corpse pilfering
Rich bursting with laughter on loop over the Riker VS people who backtalked him getting killed off montage had me in stitches, haven't laughed that hard in a long time and surely needed it - thanks guys.
48:08 for the replay. I was on the floor when first watching this.
For real, I was laughing so hard at this… SO GOOD 😂
Best new trek in decades.
The first 2 or 3 times I laughed with it, 4-5 I started saying “that’s enough”, and by 6 I was laughing again. Well done.
Incredible
That ending was one of my favorite sequences in RLM history. A masterclass in editing. And cancer. This is what I'm so grateful to have been a viewer of for 35 years. I appreciate you both.
I feel like I missed something. What was the plate and pizza thing all about?
"And cancer" lmao
@@ChrisLayfield It was the previous episode they made a bet that Rich had to eat pizza off the plate if the show didnt end up going all Kurtzman, and Mike would break it if it did I think.
Wil Wheaton, is that you??
Don't forget aids
And I gotta say... how much Stewart's demeanor changed once on the Enterprise was a nice touch if it was intentional.
Well he’s very jovial and energetic in interviews, so I think it was intentional
Troi actually using her Betazoid skills to do something useful at the end was nice.
I'm so glad she got such an impactful hero moment
Deus ex betazoid.
This time she DIDN'T crash the ship after being given the keys!
She's also one of the most unethical counselors I've ever seen. And that is saying a lot
@trisolaran Nah. Troi feels emotions ... and Riker's emotions at that moment would have been incredibly strong and directed towards her. I can totally buy that she would sense his location due to this.
Rich's analogy of Klutzman destroying toys is spot on.
It’s a really small thing, but after Data did his “trust his gut” bit, the way Geordi said “okay” was just so Geordi TNG it made me very happy
I loved how Geordi spat out 'Fire" for fire torpedos, like saying the word physically hurt him cos he knew he was killing his closest friends. Great acting by LeVar.
LeVar’s performance was my favorite.
That was a great moment for me too.
Kurtzman walked away from this and it immediately got better. Not perfect, far far from perfect. But better.
1:03:22 Mike doing a hand gesture for boom mics clipping into the top of the frame, while perfectly clipping his hand into the top of the frame, is the mark of a true professional
I'm probably spoiling some low budget youtube magic for you, but Mike probably has a monitor pointed his way.
I liked how when they arrived on the Enterprise D they turned up the lights really slowly.... you weren't sure if it was still gonna be dark like all the other nutrek...and then it kept getting brighter until it was just right
The only quibble I have with the Enterprise's return is that they didn't use the bridge design from Generations since that's the way she was before we lost her (with the additional stations along the walls as opposed to the empty space from the TV show). Unless I missed something, I thought that the saucer was salvaged and the secondary hull was what was piece milled together...not that it was a total rebuild. So while it was good to see her again, she felt like an older version of her past self as opposed to what she was when she was cut down in her prime.
I actually love the EE.
@@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319 It's how Geordie (and the fans) most fondly remembered it. He removed the stations during the refurb.
It wasnt artificial stage lighting the old show had, but its the lighting the bridge would have had had it have the budget for it, while not going overboard like Generations.
To be honest, I was waiting for someone to comment about the lighting. Maybe a "You know, I forgot how nice it is to see where you're walking..."
I’m glad Mike mentioned Sidney. She was great, Ashleigh Sharpe Chestnut has a bright future ahead of her, I hope one day we’re talking about her as a Star Trek legend.
I love how Star Trek: Picard ends on a wonderful high note and so too does this re:View arc of it.
It's like poetry. It rhymes.
Rich said exactly what I've always thought about Data vs Brent Spiner aging. Data could easily "age" himself intentionally - I mean, he dyed a grey streak in his hair in the alternate future in All Good Things. "A touch of grey adds an air of distinction."
For better or for worse, in the 90s, the idea of 'Fitting in' and "blending' was very important. That was the narratrive angle taken for Data. In modern days. we'd tell him to just be himself and not worry about pleasing others through copying them. That's why Lall's argument that if we'll never BE human, why try so hard to emulate them might have sounded silly in the 90s would be received in an entirely different way today. What I'm getting at is Data's urge was always to be more human. Aging is human. It makes perfect sense he'd want to experience/experiment with the idea.
There was also a season 7 episode that said he could age
"looks like a bloodeh skunk" Plus he grew a beard in that one episode so he might be more biological than we think
Or even just handwave 'Dr Soong included programming where, once I had reached a certain level of emotional and mental development, by body would then start to mimic ageing.
His mother aged.
Rich repping Janeway and saying she deserved to be an admiral made my heart soar. I clapped!
I cried butterfly tears!
Did you stand up while you clapped though? Cos if not......
@@davidkymdell452 I did not 😞 but for the sake of improv yes and
Janeway is badass.
I always kinda wanted Janeway to pee on me.
I've been bad, pee mommy.
I miss seeing a brighly lit and clean federation starship, where the officers and the crew act like starfleet officers, embarking on a scientific mission exploring strange New worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations, and the occasional spatial anomaly.
I thought Tim Russ played a very good Vulcan as Tuvok. He wasn't completely emotionless either. The primary emotion you saw from him was irritation. I think there is room in the Vulcan species for more than one personality type IMHO.
Tuvok was also fully Vulcan, unlike Spock.
And I do agree that most actors miss the mark on playing a Vulcan. Personally, I felt like Nimoy and Russ were the only two to actually nail it, with an honorable mention going to Mark Lenard as Sarek.
@@ShaunRF I also thought Gary Graham and late-series Jolene Blalock did admirably as well. Admittedly, she was pretty stiff at first and the producers clearly just wrote her to be Seven 2.0, but she was pretty impressive during and after that AIDS episode.
@@warmlycalculated390 personally, I wasn't a big fan of Blalock's performance, even though I've liked her in other roles. I don't really hold it against her or other actors though, as I view playing a Vulcan as a significant challenge for any actor.
My favorite thing about Tim Russ's performance and the writing of Tovuk is showing "Vulcan logic" as a practice. As a process. As a thing you do because you believe in it. I thought that was much more interesting than most of what has been done with "Vulcans don't have emotions".
The only thing that brings me more joy than seeing two old men miserable and reminiscing about the good old days is seeing two old men content about the present. ❤
They're only a couple of years older than me, oh no :(
That’s actually a wonderful sentiment.
Sums up the vibe of Season 3 Picard
This is the first time I've enjoyed actually watching Picard more than listening to mike and richs ReView's on the show. Hats off to Matalas.
Terry Matalas is the Nic Meyer of TNG.
Hopefully the show runners take notes from this season and learn what makes Star Trek good. It's not about the pew pew action of Star Wars. It's not about the violence of Predator. It's not about the dark and gritty of The Dark Knight. It's about the values of the Federation and the moral dilemmas of the Captains implementing it.
@@One.Zero.One101 Ethical dilemmas and using knowledge, wisdom, and diplomacy to solve them is really the big part of it.
My favorite part of Picard season 3 was that it was Star Trek. Haven’t been able to say that in 20 years.
Comparing how I despised Patrick Stewart's and Jeri Ryan's performances and characters in Seasons 1 and 2 and loved them in Season 3 is a prime example of how much actors are reliant on good writing and direction.
I feel like the writing was more concise and intelligent, like the best of TNG. Moreso than the first season, anyway. I watched the first ep of Picard season 2 and noped out.
despite the missing formula of being episodic, it still was a well written serialized story.
I feel like Jeri Ryan and Patrick Stewart were playing Jerri Ryan and Patrick Stewart in Picard Seasons 1-2.
You just hit me in the feels there mate...takes me back to collecting the figures of TNG back in the day as a kid in Ireland waiting every day on Sky One for the show...taping DS9 on a Sunday...cheers mate 👍
Between this, and the pissing contest that was the Sequel Trilogy, I openly welcome the petty age of screenwriters telling the person who ran the thing that came immediately before it to fuck off and that they suck.
as long as it makes 1 good thing opposed to 0, consistency be damned imo
@@nameynamename3758 Either way, watching JJ and Rian piss away hundreds of millions of disney dollars shitting all over each other's scripts was equal parts fascinating as it was hilarious. Passive aggressiveness is such an insanely powerful thing.
Yeah, just spitefully burning their own house to the ground to say F-you! to the other guy is hilarious!
@@gebeme11 It is if it's not your house. And I don't have any stake in Disney or Paramount.
@@Rex-qf7enAs someone who never gave a shit about Star Wars, it was absolutely amazing seeing JJ shit all over TLJ.
I'm never watching Picard but I can't get enough of these two talking about Star Trek.
I could listen to them talk about anything, but I really wish they'd squeeze some other content in-between their month-two month Trek videos.
sounds like you should watch season 3 by the sounds of their discussions of it!
If we were talking about the first two seasons: I honestly wouldn't blame you, especially S2. Season 3 was simply amazing though.
I'm sure it's perfectly fine especially given their review but I'm happy with Lower Decks for when I need to scratch the TNG/DS9/Voyager itch
I'm worried this one is going to be less funny because season 3 was actually decent
Having discovered RLM through their TNG movie reviews, there's a strange kind of full circle closure seeing them now satisfied, finally.
Are you one of the legendary OG fans that discovered them through NSFW furry forums?
Same
@@ElArto95 what? huh? i dont want to know do i?
right there with you. Its sad but good at the same time. Kurtzman will fuck up again soon though.
Only jumped into Picard Season 3 when Mike said it was safe at the start of this video, and I'm back to say thank you, thank you so damn much. This season brought joy to my soul, and I was so happy to see some good Trek again before I die.
Not gonna lie, I have watched this whole season several times since it ended, and it gets me every time. I LOVE this season.
I felt that Shaw didn't get on the shuttle because of survivors guilt from wolf 359. This time He decided to stay onboard and fight.
Lol yea I’m pretty sure that was what they were going for. I knew he was gonna die the second he lunged ahead of the others guns blazing. He was a good character kind of sad they killer him off.
@@chrisd6736 He could have had his own show. I would have watched it..
Pity!
If they do Legacy Seven should make a Hologram of Shaw that constantly shits on everything she does.
I feel sorry for Shaw all the same. He got involved in season 3 events through no fault of his own. He was tricked by Riker & Picard and was betrayed by his first officer. In the beginning I didn't think he was much of a captain but my opinion of him improved over time. Poor guy carried a tremendous burden for decades with him and deserved to find peace in life.
A pathetic half-witted junkie made it all the way to the end of the series and found a new beginning. It's a shame that Shaw's character wasn't given the same opportunity.
@@Dichtbringer lol I’m in!
"Teenagers, at the mall, hanging out in the food court" Someone please break the news to Mike that such things no longer exist
Nowadays kids are hanging out at the TikTok on their (cue David Lunch voice) FUCKING TELEPHONES... GET REAL
not true, where do you live? It still is a thing..
It absolutely does exist. All major cities in the US have thriving malls. I'm in Los Angeles. Malls aplenty packed full of teenagers. The dying mall phenomenon is a middle America thing.
Most teenagers are hanging out taking hormones and cutting off their genitals. But they still sound as vacuous and stupid as the generations that hung out at the mall.
@cleftintwain Not even. I'm in Middle America and we still have malls. Not as many but still do
I am utterly shocked RLM didn't play the vase-shattering sound effect when Vadic smacked into the Shrike.
That comparison shot of the end of the original Star Wars Trilogy and then the last star Trek film is gold, can't believe they actually turned Star Trek around. I'm not even that big a fan but i'm happy for Mike and Rich.
I loved the fact that TNG started with Q and ended with Q.
"Forget all that weird shit that happened on the Stargazer" - Cpt. Shaw.....translation: Forget season 2 ever happened.
"Sir yes sir!"
Rich and Mike being happy and enjoying things melts my heart.
It burns
So, do I have to suffer through season 1 and 2 to enjoy season 3?
@@niemanickurwaNo, maybe look for a recap to see how bad it got before it turned around, but don’t waste the lifetime.
(38:55) To add a point, Picard season 3 also negated season 2's version of the Borg when Captain Shaw in the holodeck bar in episode 4 said: "Forget about all that weird sh*t on the Stargazer. The real Borg are still out there."
He means there's factions and the ones that want to assimilate humanity are still alive
I get it, it had also a double meaning of telling the audience to forget the prior season
@@chrispekel5709 Yes. I particularly like the use of the phrase 'weird shit' which is a nod to the terrible writing of season 2. That's exactly what it was. It made zero sense.
Yeah because he correctly remembered that they were an offshoot of the Borg
47:36 totally agree.
I think Stewart even behaved differently while on the 1701-D bridge set. That location brought Picard out of him in a way that never happened in seasons 1 and 2 and for most of 3.
And that was all we wanted.
I loved season 3 so much. But I think the best thing that they did was make Jack's powers obsolete for Star Trek Legacy. His powers hinged on everyone else having Picard's DNA in their system. Starfleet medical created a fix that removed that vulnerability from people. Without that, Jack's abilities are basically moot. And that's awesome.
Eh, you just know that if they go ahead with Legacy (God willing), there will be some kind of "Jack is the Borg King" cliffhanger at some point.
I'd think they'd remove that from Jack too, as far as the Borg specific organic technology. Just because it doesn't serve a purpose doesn't mean that it couldn't become active in the future.
I'm shocked there was no mention of Troi getting redemption for crashing the Enterprise D in Generations. In that movie, she took the helm, and the ship wound up crashing, and fans have (mostly jokingly) given her crap about it ever since. Here, right at the climax, she takes the helm of the Enterprise D again, and saves Riker, Picard, Worf, and Jack.
The part where they focus on that had to be cut for time so Mike could ramble endlessly about a background Vulcan and a completely unrelated TOS episode.
or that shitty subplot where she was mindraped by the Reman in Nemesis, so now she gets to use her mind powers for good to find the boys and does a F&F: Tokyo Drift to pick them up
@@mdmn-ARCA As it should be.
She also crashed the Big-E, that was on purpose though. I was joking that when Picard gives the order through the console, he wrote to Deanna "do what you do best" :D
Good call
Its kind of funny that while Ro Laren is one of my favourite characters, I got to find out she died through a compilation of Rich Evans maniacally cackling at her death.
Well, its nutreck. Nothing matters anymore, Shelby and Ro laren die - who cares? Thousands of officers are killed even more are assimilated? Lets make a carpet joke and a happy reunion…
How would you start on this review and not all the previous reviews leading up to this?
@@cruvensilverwing7948i watched their early reviews and then they started saying that it got bad again so i stopped watching and then saw this come out just recently. Also there’s plenty ppl watching who’ve never seen Star Trek and will never see it so i dont rlly mind
Seeing RLM like Star Trek again feels like nature healing itself. 🥲
It's so novel and fantastic to be able to enthusiastically enjoy a show nowadays. I'm glad it happened, but it is kind of bittersweet. Matalas pulled it off, but the industry will learn no lesson (or the wrong lesson).
I wish for only 2 things: Rich and Mike's immortality, and endless Star Trek content
so you mean hell?
52:05 "Ma'am I'm just a cook"
50:20 proceeds to attack and maneuver through the entire Collectivized Starfleet Armada, and avoids a fatal plasma torpedo on a cloaking ship with no shields (around minute 25 in the episode).
His spaghetti must be divine.
So as a cook, what does he do? Dump organic mineral molecules into the replicator supply bins?
@@ZagnutBarno he cooks like chefs today do. On Earth there are lots of traditional restaurants. Replicator food isn't always the most popular.
Sisko's dad runs a restaurant. Neelix on Voyager cooks meals for the crew.
Replicator can't even make real alcohol.
No it’s from working in a deli that is tough
What a Star Trek story arc! Average or above-average people doing extraordinary things when the situation calls for it and with the assistance and encouragement of their team.
@@sth128 Neelix cooked on voyager because of power rationing and limited replicators, it was very much a luxury cruise liner enterprise D thing for every room to have a personal replicator, so I suspect it fits the titan quite well to have a cook. It is Kinda dumb that a tiny little constitution class ship is the flagship now though considering how big and well equipped they have all been /since/ the constitution.
I have just blitzed Picard S3 in 2 sittings. Beautiful, beautiful Trek. Thank you, Terry Matalas. "Hit it Johnny!"
i literally binged the entire season this weekend and HOLY CRAP it was so good. i had a smile on my face from start to end. they need to make all future trek products like this. Im with Mike, that cursing in trek doesnt have its place but even here it made a certain amount of sense.
That extended cut of Rich cackling over Riker getting rebuked by Ro Laren and Shelby fucking killed me
riker really looks like a confused dog after shelby walks out of that turbo lift
How Q coming back scene should have have.
Jack: " i thought you were supposed to be dead"
Q: " I got bored"
I would have loved it if he'd said that XD i liked the scene, but that version would have made me laugh
Perfect!
I just wanted to comment and say that as big fans of you guys, it makes me very happy to see you so pleased with how this season turned out.
re: Les Troyens at 37:42 ... it's the perfect piece of music for this show. This opera is about the Trojan war and it starts with the Trojans celebrating their "victory" over the Greeks. But the Greeks left something behind ... the famous horse, which destroys them from inside out. The parallel with the borg is obvious, except this time the horse failed.
Oh nice. That's actually "cool as fuck."
Laris, Elnor, Soji, and Jurati were on a transport ship that exploded under mysterious circumstances shortly after a tailor disembarked.
But, at least they were well-dressed before the explosion.
Think of them all as tragic victims of editing.
Later, a damaged datarod was found containing a recorded meeting with Kurtzman et al laughing around a table saying "Let's see 'em try to fix THIS garbage fire! Ha ha ha"
Garak the Cardassian Spy took them out? =O
@@Solarnova Plain AND simple Garak? He is just a humble tailor, though.
The absolute emotional rollercoaster these two have been through with this franchise is crazy lmao.
Glad the car has miraculously missed the cliff, and the plate is safe.
It's a shame Rich Evans had to meet his fate by the plate, though.
As soon as Rich said a mugato was in "The Cage," I was eagerly anticipating Mike's post-production takedown.
Loved that data was having fun and going fancy on the piloting of the D, playing it like a piano. I guess putting his love of flying with the other Enterprise pilots.
"Life Forms... doo doo doo doo do."
"I'm not just a member of RLM, I'm also a fan" is the most wholesome thing that's ever been said on this channel.
I would love for these new, actual competent writers to give Voyager this same treatment. Bring back the cast. Tie up loose threads. Give us an actual proper epilogue. Hell, even find some way to resolve Kes situation (even if actor is out of the loop, it can still be attempted via other narrative methods).
Except for Mike laughing at the elderly until he can't breathe
I don't know, Mike worrying about Rich's diabetes was pretty wholesome.
@@OhManTFE i was about to say the same for DS9, but as much as I hate to admit it, the ending they got was perfect as it is.
Whilst I disagree with then on this series I defend their right to say it. The Enterprise G reveal had me swearing at my screen at the sheer laziness of it. The endless member berry stuff was awful.
"It's like they read our minds"
Mike theres an entire backlog of how you'd fix Star Trek...I'd bet you Matalas is among us RIGHT now gleaming with joy that he did a good job. You and Rich were absolutely instrumental in making this happen.
Totally agree
I believe this to be true
Yes it almost makes up for Mike ruining the Sequel Trilogy
Matalas secretly created a TrekGPT to write season 3 and used RLM videos as the reward function during training.
I'm too cynical to think that Star Trek writers were hired that actually like RLM content but I would like to think that.
The enterprise E is awesome and it perfectly encapsulates the federations mindset with recent events. The dominion war, the ever present threat of the borg, the dominion war, and the growing realization that the can’t simply “boldly go” anymore and the galaxy is getting a lot smaller very rapidly
Besides, it wasn't the only ship that was bolstered for battle. The Defiant was built specifically to be a battle ship if I remember correctly.
Don't forget the Dominion War!
I knew Rich Evans couldn't be perfect: he doesnt eat the pizza crust
I wanna see a spin-off of this where O'brien has to go around hunting down rogue changelings impersonating transporter chiefs.
"It's someone else's turn to suffer."
With his buddy Bashir!
It's f dumb that the whole plot revolved around transporters and O'brien wasn't in the show.
Oh fuck yeah
@@paddmeister6752 If Bashir's there, Garak's gotta make an appearance.
I wanna see a spinoff where Jake Sisko is a cynical independent journalist exposing all the fuckups that Starfleet covers up.
;-)
Terry Matalas pulled off one of the greatest turnarounds in television history.
I just love the way he looked at all the crap that was done in Seasons 1 and 2 and apparently said NOPE. Not doing that.
Its so rare to actually have a genuine fan of an IP, that knows how to write, be responsible for said IP, and fix decade old mistakes while the aging actors are still alive and capable to perform. This was a lightning in a bottle situation, we should count our blessings that this even happened in this modern mediocrity and profit driven media industry.
Hey Terry
@trisolaran Peoples like you deserved only Kurtzmann Trek.
The Matalas Manuvere?
59:19 Well, he finally did it... he made the video...
I have to say that I have never seen a single episode of Star Trek that I can think of. But hearing two grown men talk about three seasons of the latest star trek has been enjoyable.
I'm propably not gonna watch any Star Trek from now on. But it's something.
I've never seen a single episode of Star Trek, but I watch all of these reviews because watching these fellas talk about something they're so passionate about is one of the most entertaining things ever.
As long as no one's getting hurt, passion tends to be infectious.
Yup, plus, they have an awesome sense of humor and are pretty sharp/knowledgable about films/storytelling
sure, but these fellas are losing their minds, the season still sucked
@@backwardthoughts1022 not this season their losing their minds, they loved it.
@@backwardthoughts1022 L take, this season was good.
Jack doing the Picard uniform tug at the end was just another of those little nods that showed the writers of season 3 had actually watched next gen.
@@democrrrracymanifest Nah, the Picard Maneuver is how they ended up with Jack in the first place.
@@SomeOrangeCat heeeeyyyyooooo
Next season will be Picard saving the Q daughter he had with Vash.
@@evanbelisle8464 After Naris kidnaps Picard's new daughter and tortures her because he stood her up for Crusher. Let's will this into existence! /s
In Dan Murrell's latest interview with Terry Matalas, they speak of this video. Matalas has been watching 🤣
There was already a way out of Brent Spiner aging. Go watch "Inheritence" - the one where the Juliana Tainer arrives on the Enterprise and Data figures out she's a Soong type Android. After she gets damaged on the planet and Data, Geordi and Beverly are standing around her all busted up with her head open, Beverly's all about the humanistic features like capaleries, and sweat glands, etc. Geordi goes on about her feedback processor loop that emulates human signatures to fool sensors... but a throw away line that goes on about how she's designed to age in appearance, like Data. - Problem was solved like 30 years ago. Shouldn't have ever been a worry.
When they’re opening Hanger “12” they are literally pushing 1 & 2 aside, revealing TNG behind them.
It's like poetry. It rhymes.
The symbolism of all time
Oh wow...that is BRILLIANT. Please get Terry Matalas to replace Kurtzman PLEASE 🙏
OH MY GOD THATS PERFECT
You deserve praise for this one, love it
This season of Picard was so good it de-aged Rich Evans 15 years
But then gave him cancer
True, he looks like a 60 year old man again
I like that Season 3 established that Wesley is gone ("lost" in Beverly Crusher's words), and wherever he is, he ain't comin' back. Good choice!
Who would have thought that the RLM journey with Picard would end here like this?
"We must have faith. That the universe, will evolve, as it should." - Spock, Star Trek VI
One thing I really like is the way this season recontexutalizes the worst parts of the TNG movies' and Picard's earlier seasons which is more impressive than just ignoring the problems. For example, the Enterprise being destroyed allows it to have a triumphant return, Data sacrifices his android body, his life, and is rewarded with his human body and a new life, Picard's death and resurection establishes the tech that allowed Data to return, Crusher's relationship with Picard fizzeling out allows the drama of them reuinting to have more impact, and the plot with his body explains why Picard was randomly psychic is First contact. They turned those narative failures and dropped threads into a second act low point that is then resolved in the climax of this season. Really impressive. It almost makes me want to revisit stuff like Nemesis now that I know it all works out in the end.
Love this. Thank you!
This is great.
Thank you, you put into words how I feel. As much as I love Trek, Nemesis left such a bad taste in my mouth. It killing off Data and no mention of Lore, Beverly and Picard’s relationship not being ‘a thing’, the whole film feeling so dark and depressing, wasn’t the send off I needed them to have - it basically made me want to ignore the 4 films and pretend TNG ended on All Good Things. (I still feel sad they killed Kirk in Generations…) All the films damaged the TNG legacy, they even had to kill off Picard’s brother and son… But then along came Terry! It’s as if Matalas went through as many injustices as he could, and fixed them for us - and as a result, I genuinely feel that he’s mended my broken heart. I can watch Nemesis now, I can enjoy my TNG boxset now and feel content my beloved characters will have a wholesome, happy ending. I imagine Kurtzman really bregrudges and doesn’t ‘get’ Matalas’ success and I really doibt Kurtzman can take his ego out of the way and pitch Star Trek: Legacy to his bosses at Paramount. Kurtzman will continue to push his weird Dystopian 35th century Trek or whatever he is doing. But we got something lovely that we can hold lnto forever - I will buy Picard Season 3 on Blu-ray for my collection, my FIRST NuTrek purchase. I loathe SecretHideOut and bregrudge them having my money. I love diversity and represenstion, but their writing and lack of understanding of Trek, lack of respect for continiuty, makes me sick. I can’t believe season 3 of Picard was allowed to happen! Something good in a world which feels increasingly bad. We sre so lucky. (I wish they could have somehow retconned Trip’s conclusion… established a happier ending for him and T’Pol, but appreciate that was hundreds of years ago by this time period!)
I kinda feel the same way. I wouldn't go so far as to say it redeems them or makes them better, but it definitely recontextualizes them enough to make them feel relevant to the over all arc of the TNG/Picard narrative.
Theres a lot of these "deep cut" detail-retreads in modern films. Kinda like the whole howard stark thing being a dud in iron man 2 then getting revisited in infinity war with tony meeting his papa.
At least someone's chewing the cud here, with star trek.
Rich and Mike are like Siskel and Ebert when it comes to Star Trek: they are not the only critics, but they are the only critics whose opinions actually matter.
Their opinions on Star Trek do not matter at all.
@@SecretFantasyConsole not anymore
@@SecretFantasyConsole considering the show runner for this season watches RLM and their reviews from before I’d say it matters quite a bit
@@NeroSparda99 if a showrunner is getting all his advice from schmucks on CZcams, they shouldn’t be a showrunner.
And Siskel and Ebert's opinions didn't even matter!
Those wil Wheaton cuts never fail to make me laugh 😂
I've been checking Redlettermedia every day since the finale for this review.
Omg same!
Me too, bro.
Sometimes multiple times a day. I'm so glad they're finally enjoying a Star Trek show.