TESTED! Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR - Knobbly Tire for Adventure Without Limits
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Kyle and Travis from www.ChapMoto.com head out into world to test the on-road and off-road characteristics of the STR version of the Scorpion Rally line of tires. Shop the Scorpion Rally STR Tires here:
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I had the Scorpion Rally STR of my R1200GS for a trip to baja, and the sand was deep where we followed a piece of the rsce course going up to the Sky Rancho. The front tire was weak, as in the video, but the bar tread in back produced a lot of drive in the loose stuff and got me out some nasty bunkers. The front is just lovely on the street and on fire roads. In back, the sharp break from the center blocks to the side blocks, which is only slightly staggered on alternate rows, makes for a slippery spot on cold wet roads.
Those are some great observations. Are you still on the STRs or have you moved to something else?
You guys do the best tire reviews!
Hey thanks Matt. We appreciate that. Ride safe.
The part where you show the Rally tire washing out the rear end makes this a great review. Thanks!
Thank you for watching Marcos. Just showing what happens out there... the good, the bad and sometimes the ugly. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
not much side lug on em so they're gonna be squirrely for sure compared to full knobies
GREAT review. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Great job guys!! Really helpful! 🤟🏽
Happy to hear it was beneficial. Thanks for watching! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Chaparral Motorsports yeah thanks! I want to check the Scorpion Rally STR tires on a 06 Kx250f .. I am about your height myself as well so it helped give perspective
Thanks for the video!
You bet! Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Very good review!
Glad you enjoyed it! -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Appears to be a nice tire. Alot of good comments about this tire.
Hello, take a look at our ADV Tire Shootout Wrap up: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
Really explaination. Could you help me with best tyres for 18" inch Spoke Rim for Royal Enfeild Interceptor 650. I ride ling distance in one go for 500 to 700 kms. Looking for Highway and 20-30% off road tyres. Tyres should have good conering ability. Right now I am runing on stock tyres which Pirelli Phantom Sportscom.
Hey guys awsmmmmmm video just wanna how quiet are scorpion rally str ??Thanks in advance😍
Thanks! The noise from the STR was barely noticeable, especially when compared to the standard Rally tire! Not quite street tire quite, but not annoying - that is for sure. Thanks for watching. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Thank you.
Yes Sir!
Looks like those STR will be great for my CB300R, I do gravel roads but mostly tarmac country roads.
Also it's the only tires available for my bike tire size
Right on
Want these on my CB300R, we have so many gravel roads around where I live.
If it's good enough for a Svartpilen 401, well it's good enough for my CB 😀👍
Good choice! Thanks for watching. Ride safe.
I'm thinking of putting them on my 300R. Did you end up doing it? It's almost a necessity/survival for me. I live 7KM (3MI) down a gravel road, and the stock tires are super sketchy. Especially on the off camber down hill corners. Looking for recommends for a tire that will have a more planted feel.
Front 110/70 r17, Rear 150/60 r17
Best tires! I use it for 2 years on my Atwin. Very very good on dirt or tarmac!!, very stable on wet! 6 pairs for 2 year never ever problem!!! Only 1 minus ➖ very smal mialege about 10 000 and done! Still best choice on market
Thank you for your feedback! Great to hear that you love them so. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Do you think I could get more milles on a lighter bike like my
CB300R?
10000 is great,not small
Hi great review like always. Which is the best off road anakee adventure or scorpion rally str? Thank you
Hi thanks for watching. They are pretty close in performance in various terrain/scenarios but in our testing we found the Anakee Adventure just bested the Pirelli. Hope that helps.
Been running these Scorpion STR front and rear on my 1200GS. Best 50/50 tyre so far. Very quiet on tar and stable even at 200km/h. Better than Mitas e07 plus on tar, similar off-road. Great grip and drive off road. I push hard and will get only 4500km out of the rear. Same as TKC70, E-07+ i ran before but better all round grip. Motoz Tractionaters was too noisy and limited on road. Will try the Tractionater GPS next.
Hello, the STRs are a good choice. Everyone has their needs and preferences and different tires will be better suited for different riding styles/bikes. Sounds like you've got quite a bit of experience on a variety of tires which is awesome. Glad to hear you found a set you really like. Thanks for watching. Ride safe.
Sounds like you ride a lot of kms.Funny when I look at these str's they don't seem to even compare to say k60's but I think they are more control & softe ride.
Hello, I'd love to hear your opinion about GPS. I'm planning to change my tyres in 3-4 month on my Africa Twin and still can't decide between GPS and Anakee Adv. Please let us know. Thx for sharing.
The STR is actually a 70/30 tyre
How did you like the GPS would love an update!
If I understood correctly the dirt tire is the Pirelli Scorpion Rally. It should be mentioned this tire comes only in the 140 size and not the standard 150, like the STR variant. This means that it is not a road legal option for almost all of Europe countries. Great review btw.
Noted. Thanks for watching Trevi.
Thanks for the vid ... what tire pressure are you running front/rear (apologies if I missed it in your commentary)?
Hi Dan. Glad you enjoyed the video. Sorry we shot these videos a while ago and don't recall what the PSI was at. Thanks for watching.
Not sure if you will see this comment due to age of video but here goes. I live in rural Michigan where most secondary roads eventually change from ashphalt to gravel. I ride a 2021 Ninja 400 and on stock tires gravel is like riding on marbles. I am thinking about fitting the STR tires so I don’t have to turn around when faced with gravel as I like to explore in big loops and not hit the same road twice. It seems that given the performance on the Africa Twin on and off road they should do well on my light little bike. Basically it’s the cheap alternative as I continue to save up for my dual sport bike. Thanks for the feed back!
Hello, they may work for what you are describing. The STRs took third overall in our 80/20 ADV tire shootout. If you haven't already, take a look at our results from those tests: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
hello Kyle and Travis, great great review, i got to clear some questions on the tires after watching the video. i have a Africa Twin 2017 and just got the STRs with the tube. One question, what to you guys recommend for pressure ? i have a small portable air pump, so i can make some adjustments, going from tarmac to hardpack. what presure do you guys use on tarmac and hardpack ? thank you
One…..year……later
@@adammfharris one .....year....later....😅😄😃🤣
Thank you for a nice review. A few questions if you please: 1. Do you think Rally STR is 100% similar to Scorpion MT90 (which I have now)? Or do you think STR is more off-road? 2. This video shows sunny and dry weather conditions. How do STRs behave on wet paved (asphalt) roads (and in cold temperatures)? 3. This video shows dry sandy/rocky types of terrains. How do STRs behave in puddles of thick wet mud? Will they be completely useless like some kind of purely road tyres in the mud? 4. Did you ever try Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara? If so, how do those compare with STRs?
I’ve been waiting a year to get a response haha
@@adammfharris 2 years now? Maybe they are no longer in business?
@@toridunn9586 I think you are correct.
He don't work for them anymore,the covid bs got him laid off,he does his own thing now
Any performance difference with these on a small bike with a small rider? I have a CRF230M with 17” wheels, it’s really hard finding tires for that bike that aren’t geared towards street only.
These will work great on a small displacement bike. Or, I'd also recommend the Avon TrekRider which comes in 17" sizes. Check it out here: www.chapmoto.com/avon-av85-trekrider-rear-tire-parent-075900000281 -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Great review! Running the STR on my Tenere 700 and loved them. Would the STR be a better tire on the T7 vs the Shinko 705 for purely street riding focusing on California canyons and street touring with very minimal dirt roads? thanks!
Awesome. Thanks for watching.
Just watching again this great video Kyle, and was wondering between the following tires, wich one will be your pick for a 2018 KTM 1290 SAR on a 50/50 purpose tire that will last an average of 5.000 miles or more :
1) BRIDGESTONE Battlax AX41
2) DUNLOP Trailmax Ride
3) PIRELLI Scorpion Rally STR
4) CONTINENTAL TKC70 Rocks
...or any other you can recommend too.
Thanks!
Hello, Kyle is no longer with the company. Maybe this video and the accompanying information can help: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
amazing test!!
what do you think will be better for a ktm 950/990 adventure
pirelli rally str vs pirelli scorpion mt90?
Hello, thanks for watching our video. Glad you enjoyed it. Unfortunately we did not test the Pirelli MT90 in this series. We will say that we were quite pleased with the Rally STR, they came in 3rd place overall amongst all the nine 80/20 ADV tires we tested in this series. If you haven't seen it, here's the results video from all the tires we tested: czcams.com/video/gjtgLz1LjnE/video.html
@@chaparralmotorsports thnx nice review!
Hi, What is your opinion of this Pirelli comparing to TKC 70 and TKC 80? Maybe between then? Thanks
Thank you for your inquiry. The Pirelli STR tire is much more like the TKC70. Street orientated but can go off-road pretty good. I am working on a full detailed breakdown between all of these tires which were tested. See all of the tires in one place here: czcams.com/play/PLqGJeNT1sKsWsz6AEupMVGiKV5Ez3qi0B.html
Nice pants !
Glad you like them!
how does this compare to anakees? looking to mainly be on road but have roads with hardpack and somewhat rocky near me.
Hi Preston, if you haven't already, check out our results video from our ADV tire shootout. It may help give you some insight. czcams.com/video/gjtgLz1LjnE/video.html
Hello, thanks a lot for your videos. They are of huge help to me. I am going to change tires on my 2017 Africa Twin. Between these Pirelli's and the Tractionator GPS, which would be your choice??
Hello, thanks for checking out our video. It really comes down to what you will mostly be riding. The Tractionator GPS is a more aggressive 50/50 tire and the Rally STR is more like a 70/30, 80/20 road/offroad tire that can handle light offroad but is not as aggressive and is quieter on the road. Not sure if this will help but here is our final results from our ADV tire test shootout: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
@@chaparralmotorsports thanks a lot for the reply! Just realized that I can’t get my hands on tractionators in my country. I guess I gotta go with anakee adv or rally str. Thanks again!
@@barissbalatful Have you tried the Dunlop Trailmax Mission tires? They are better Off-road than the Anakee Adventures, but not as good as the Anakee Wilds, but the Anakee Wilds suck on grooved cement and high speeds, where the Trailmax Mission excel
Kyle, I know the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR are fitted as standard kit to the Norden 901 (next bike). How do you rate these versus the Motoz Tractionator Adventure?
Hello, thanks for checking out our video. Please take look at this article and results video. it may shed some light: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
sorry for the delay , bottom line is the tire (not the full off road) recommended for street and off road? some say that the ride on the street not so good .... i will be happy to get your answer. thanks
This STR tire is a fantastic feeling tire on the street. It exceeded street expectations. I was a little disappointed in it's off road character as compared to other tires in its "percentage range" ... Overall it was a great feeling tire on-road and can make it happen (with a bit more effort than others) off-road. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@@chaparralmotorsports thanks!!!
Kyle , don you think we can pair the pirelli scorp STR front tyre with TKC70Rocks ?
Hello, plenty of people have mixed and matched tires
How do you find them compared to the Bridgestone Battlax Adventurecros AX41 and the Continental TKC80?
Searching for some enduro tires for a 125 scrambler for about 80/20 street/off-road, but with enough knobby look the scrambler deserves :)
Hello, take a look at our overall results video from our ADV tire shootout. It may provide you with the info you are looking for. czcams.com/video/gjtgLz1LjnE/video.html Thanks for watching.
@@chaparralmotorsports Thx!
How do you get down to that wash? And is it legal with a plated dual sport? Highly interested.
The wash can be entered at many different locations. The two we ride in most are the Santa Ana River and the Lytle Creek wash. Legality is relative as they are "water ways" not roads albeit a plate would be helpful if ever questioned. - Kyle
I've had two pairs of the STR's on my T7. The T7 is not very powerful & not real heavy (compared to the big adventure bikes) however, I've only managed to achieve 6500km (from both rears). Front tyre goes a bit further, but not much. They do hang onto sealed & gravel roads really well but I'd like to get more kms out of them. I'm going to be trying Karoo 4's next 🇦🇺
Interesting. Let us know what you think of the Karoos.
What kind of terrain are you riding in? I've got 4k miles on my T7 with the original STRs. I'm on the market. I probably ride 80/20.
How does the Dunlop trail max missions compare to the rally str?
Hello Josh, please take a look at the accompanying video and write up, it may help shed some light for you. www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
What's best on the Africa twin. So far karoo 3, mitas e07, k60 scout, shinko 805 or these. Would love to get your feedback back since you guys have rode pretty much everything on the africa twin.
Thanks for watching Joshua. What type of riding do you do as depending on the terrain you travel, I will have a different best tire for that application or style of riding. The Gnarlyist tire was for sure this Pirelli Scorpoin Rally tire. But as you saw, highway characteristics were not up to my highway habits. The Shinko 804 / 805 tires really really surprised me. The Bridgestone AX41 and the MotoZ RallZ are two of my personal favorites. AX41 for all around. Rallz for the desert and rough rocks. What do you intend to ride? And how much of it? -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@@chaparralmotorsports thanks for the reply I would use if for light commute and living in Utah go to moab and the Rockies for trails an camping but need to go 250 miles or more on tarmac to go from slc to moad. Motoz rallz seem a good fit any thought on this?
joshua kearl Josh, did you ever decide on the tires? I'm interested in knowing if you got the rallz. I put a pair on my 790 adv R and they have made the bike very stiff, hard to transition. Great traction, it makes the Karoos feel like street tires. They also make the front wiggle starting at 60 and anything above 70 starts to get unnerving. I'm going to take them off. Maybe the extra heft just doesn't work with the 790. The Karoos seem to be 1/3 or more of the weight of the rallz. Thanks in advance.
drew812w m
Would make any sense to mix a front tyre rally and a back tyre str?
Yeah you could do that.
@@chaparralmotorsports please thanks the amazing driver for risking every time doing these tests for us. I watched most of them and I have changed my mind. I may go for a dunlop trialmax mission or a Bridgestone ax41. Hard choices
I can't seem to find a review any that compares OPTION 1 (Pirelli Rally STR) and OPTION 2 (Continental TKC70 front and TKC70 Rocks rear). Which is better? I don't care about life. On my R1200GS, I do 90% on road and the occasional hard packed dirt. My requirement is good road handling and low road noise (Well a lot less than Karoo 3). Someone help me decide.
Hi Larry for your scenario we really like the Rally STR.
@@chaparralmotorsports I actually just fitted the Dunlop Trailmax Mission to the Front (waiting on mores stock to come into Australia to fit to the back. However, there is still that whirr noise on R1200GS between 35 and 50 mph. Do you get this with the STR as well?
Im going from a scorpion trail tyre to this rally str tyre. Is it a tubeless setup?
Hello, yes they are tubeless tires. Thanks for watching
@@chaparralmotorsports thanks.
Sorry but I couldn't understand from video. Are they also for tube wheels?
I like the way they handle both on and off road. they make a nasty humming noise between 75-85 mph. They are not tough on rocky terrain. The first time a flatted I thought I was being too aggressive. The second time I was not going very hard on the rocky terrain and they flatted anyway. Was running 37 rear, 32 front. I now hate these tires after stranding me twice. When they fail, they are not repairable so you are screwed! Don't do it....don't buy them for your big GSA!
Hello, thanks for your great insight/experience with these tires. Others will find this information useful. Thank you for your input. Ride safe.
Hi could you compare str to karoo street?? Good vid mate!
Great idea pavo555. Those are very similar tires with the Pirelli being just a little more dirt capable. I will get it on our list! Thank you for watching. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Chaparral Motorsports hi, great vids. I’m with pavo, need new rubber on my first gs1200 and have decided between Karoo street and Pirelli STR. If you had to decide purely on best feedback and grip on road, not concerned about longevity, which would you plump for?? Thank you and keep up the good vids
@@andrewhorton5666 hi mate I decided to go for karoo street and made about 1k miles so far... quite impressed about handling on tarmack in pretty much any conditions like wet dry and so on haven't done any off-road yet and comparing to the previous road orientated ones they're pretty loud...can hear them from 30 mph till 60 mph, after that is just wind noise...wonder how long they last for but probably i will stay with them
Cheers
pavo555 thank you. Literally can’t decide between the two!! Either be more capable than my riding so prob shouldn’t sweat it too much!! Both good reviews.
Can rally str beat trail max mission in this conditions?
Hello, it's not really comparing apples to apples as the Pirelli STR is advertised as an 80/20 street/dirt whereas the Trailmax Mission is advertised as a 50/50 street/dirt tire. But to answer your question we preferred the Trailmax Mission.
What is this thing with not taking helmets off, for audience being able to hear clear sound?
Hello, we think the audio is pretty clear in this video. Not sure what issues you may be having?
how does this compare to the avon trailrider?
Hello, we preferred these over the Avon Trail Rider. Take a look: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
@@chaparralmotorsports thanks
Hello good video for an Honda xadv 80/20. Theses pirelli scorpion rally str or bridgestone ax41 Scramber?
Thank
Hello, thanks for watching. In our testing we preferred the Pirelli STR over the Ax41. The Pirelli outperformed the AX41 in just about all our tests. You can see more here: www.chapmoto.com/blog/motorcycle-gear-guides/adv-motorcycle-tires/
Exactly right way in Sand for STR second gear asap and go go go. 😄😄😄
Yup!! Thanks for watching.
after 9400km there is still a lot left on scorpion rally str..:)
Good to hear. Thanks for commenting.
Is supposed to be a long lasting tire? I can promise you, it is not! But it is awesome on street and it rips off-road.
Yeah, we wore it down pretty good during this test!
I want your job!!!
Ha! Ha! It has it's ups and downs... but it is a great gig. Thanks for watching! - Kyle
Hey lol, you’ve never tested any tire on mud. Couldn’t you make a video comparing tires on mud please?
We would love to make some mud videos.... only problem is that we live in So Cal with Baja type terrain. More sand and rock than actual dirt... and no rain to make mud. I would like to make a year round mud pit that we can use for testing. We did for the ATV Tire test... and took me WEEKS to make this pit and it dried up immediately. At 0:54 you can see me digging.... and watering to make the mud run : czcams.com/video/HfL3XJLbjRM/video.html
I am getting rid of these tyres, they were useless off road on front for my bike.
Probably ok on certain bikes so not knocking the tyre but on my Triumph scrambler 1200xc the front washed out at the slightest sand.
Bummer sorry to hear that. Different tires suit different terrain, riding styles etc.
I'm between them and mt60rs 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Sorry we didn't test the MT60Rs
The STR is a better off road tire than the Rally is a street tire.
Interesting take. We weren't very fond of the Rally on the street.
6:33 Ah yes, the old irregular irregularity
You guys should pick up the trash before he starts filming in your sandbox well at least point the camera away from the trash 😂
We would LOVE to clean up ALL of the trash! It is sickening how disrespectful some people are... FYI - We do come back with several trash bags each shoot. To really clean this up would take at least a dozen dumpsters! Horrible... - Kyle
@@chaparralmotorsports I get it it's a sorry State of affairs. If I was there I'd help you clean it up.
this rear tyre is tragic in dirt, have it on my T7. These are basically street tyres hence the name STR..
Hello, these are not the most aggressive or best tires for offroading--a 50/50 would be better. But some people like how these handle in the dirt. In our 80/20 ADV tire shootout these tires took third place overall, and we thought they performed fairly well in the dirt for the 80/20 tire category.
@@chaparralmotorsports you tested it on the dry, try wet grass, mud etc you won't make it far. I know it never rains in Southern California but tyres should be universal for adv bike :)
Yeah, sure ! Guess this tires should be amazing. Especially as they are made in China.
ok
Anything is made in china these days.
@@bigboi9611 Everything is.But your right China makes everthing including my underpants!
No you DO NOT need to break new tires in. Can we let that myth die already?!
There's no mold release anymore, but the tire doesn't grip well on hard surfaces until it achieves the ripply "crepe" finish of a broken-in tire, and until the tread blocks wear to their working shape.
Not long lasting at all if you use it too much on road.
Yes you are correct. Thanks for watching.
Srt tire stay out of the sand.
Still shouting.
Hi Tigerick, sorry that you feel our presenter is shouting. We haven't heard anyone complain about the volume of his voice. It could be that while he's riding he wants to make sure viewers can clearly him him over the wind noise, road noise, and bike noise? Have you tried lowering the volume on your phone or computer speakers?
bad brand, overpriced and bad quality. Personal experience.
HI Carlos, sorry to hear you had a bad experience with Pirelli. We've used sevral different Pirelli tires over the years and found them to offer some pretty good tires.