Firestone Destination M/T2 37x12.50R17 - First Impressions
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- I just installed a set of 37x12.50R17 Firestone Destination M/T2’s on 17x9.5 Procomp Series 51 Rock Crawler Steel wheels last week. In this first impressions video I will go into details on my new wheel and tire package, review some of the OEM details, add in some additional details I find useful, and finish off with how to reprogram your ECU to account for the larger tire size.
I am not sponsored by nor am I being paid by Firestone or Procomp for this first Impressions.
I have heard good things about the performance of these tries having been out since 2017 and the new Jeep JLU Willys Edition are running these tires from the factory.
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We are VictorVectorJKU taking on this build and the trails with both Direction and Magnitude!
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I have them on my Gladiator that I just purchased new, I really like them so far!
Hey JR, thanks for checking out my video and glad to hear you are liking the tires! I thought they were great!
Love these tires but boy are they loud! Had them on my jeep and Silverado.
Yeah they have gotten a bit louder over time but my daily, a 2013 Hyundai Elantra, has endless road noise so I don’t notice them much in my Jeep and also I notice the wind noise more myself than the tires. But thanks for checking out my video!!
Goodyear silent armour was pretty good
I wish I had ran these longer and in a larger size to really test the Goodyear duratracs out, but they definitely seem like a solid tire!
solid review. thanks! have been back and forth between the m/t2 and the x/t2
Thank you Aaron! And you bet, I was looking for reviews on the M/T2’s and was surprised to not find much on them. I hope whichever direction you choose works out for you!
Aaron Smart awesome! They look great on your Jeep!
Helpful and in-depth review, thanks!
Thank you David! I am excited to hit 10K and do a follow up review. These tires are performing very well so far and I am impressed!
Great video! Pretty informative
Thank you! I definitely look forward to seeing how these tires look after 10k miles!
Holy crap the change!!!
I know! So much better with the wheel and tires!
Installed 38x12.50x17 Firestone destination MT2’s on my 2017 Jeep Wrangler and they are awesome
That’s awesome Wayne! I definitely agree they look great and perform very well too!
Wish l could post a pic of my jeep
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My favourite was Goodyear fierce attitude but they stopped making them. But I’ve got Firestone mt2 now
I’m impressed with Firestone I have a toolbox and a 450 lt tidy tank in my truck with that weight it likes to slide sideways in slop up hill but that’s at 50 psi
Mine are 285/75-16
Mine is ten ply
Hey Larry, I’m not sure I have heard of that tire before, but if it works it works! I did enjoy the MT2’s tho!
Looking SO good! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks Mackenzie!!
The stock tires on my Cherokee Trailhawk were the destination AT , the all terrain version and they have low noise and really good grip off road
Where are you located? I personally think AT tires are a great choice for many terrains with really the primary downfall is mud since they won’t clear well. But I think, because of the number of biting edges makes them great for rocks, sand, dirt, gravel, road, snow and even ice when new!
@@VictorVectorJKU Alabama. I use cooper AT3 4s now. It's trading trade offs. The coopers are WAY better wet traction on road but the destination AT weren't bad mostly but they were scary during emergency braking on wet pavement. The firestones probably had better bite off road , however I went with wider tires which when aired down make a bigger footprint do it was a good compromise. The coopers did better than I thought in the mud up to the point of being rim deep in the mud. At that point they start to reach their limit . The electronics are so dang good on the Cherokee Trailhawk though to where it almost doesn't care what tire you put on it. I bet I could throw on Goodyear vivas and slam on the gas in the rain on a turn and wouldn't have that much wheelspin. The torque vectoring and all of that is absolutely insane.
It's basically like driving on dry pavement. I can gas as hard as I want in the rain and turn as hard as I want . You can floor it around curved on ramps to the interstate and nothing happens. Incredible vehicle . It has tons of wheel lift off road compared to a wrangler but it makes it anyway especially since it has a factory rear locker.
There aren't many cars with AWD and 4wd and low range and rear locker ... And 4 wheel independent suspension... It's a unicorn... Maybe the landrover defender is like it. I can't think of another vehicle besides that. Not even one.
People on the Cherokee forums report up to 100,000 miles on the stock firestone destination AT. I can vouch for that . I still have mine in my garage. They have plenty of tread left with 50k miles on them . I just wanted bigger tires basically. I'm tempted to put the old tires back on during the summer and let the sun melt the old ones. You can get a lot of tread wear pretty fast when it gets really hot out.
Ok I gotcha, you’re just about as far from me while being in the continental states 😅 but definitely, sounds like a killer vehicle!
Love the vids I'll keep an eye out for ya out here in WA! I'm also rocking the JKU it's still stock 😅 I did just get an arb on-board air system over there at Mule Expedition but I haven't installed it yet.
Thank you Eyes Open, I appreciate that! And for sure! Nothing wrong with stock, it’s good to understand the vehicles capabilities before modifying it if you ask me. And nice, OBA is a great idea, I am still running my portable smittybilt compressor for airing up after a day on the trails.
No re gear ? No new axles ? Won't it break ?
Hey there fordfiveohh, thanks for checking out my video! And at the point of upgrading the tires, I did not re-gear or upgrade the axles. The Dana 30 front end I would consider stock is having its limits pushed with 37’s but the rear Dana 44 is decently within reason. I wheeled on these axles with these tires for just over a year and had one failure due to too much wheel speed and a bound up front end. That caused my spider gears to shear. Other than that I had no issues other than stalling more frequently since I have a manual while off-roading and not having low enough gears.
In my opinion, most failures come from bad situations, lack of seat time, and understanding of a vehicles limits! Every upgrade comes with new considerations and fore thought to what those situations could be can save you from breaking on the trail!
@@VictorVectorJKU I wonder sometimes if a lunch box locker would hold up better because it subsumes the spider gears.
I did upgrade to the Torqmaster Industries Torq Locker after that incident! I did an install and review on it in two separate videos in my Channel! I highly recommend their product being USA made and great customer service!
How have these held up over the last couple years?
Hey there Adam, thanks for checking out my video! They have been solid tires! I think I am around 30-40k miles and I think I’m still at or over 50% tread life. They have handled most all environments quite well. They do have decent road noise but this isn’t a major concern for me. I will have to make a review video soon to capture more accurate details, but for the $315 per tire I paid for them back in 2020 I feel they are a great value for their performance and appearance!
@@VictorVectorJKU $315 per tire?! Oh the good old days.
Tell me about it!! I was looking at the tire price a week or two ago… I think it was $450 per tire now 🤕
I have the 35 12.5 r20 on my 2023 ram 1500. I read these larger tires will damage tge transmussion and rear differential. Any thioghts on that? The dealer had these on and a front level. They are smooth, quiet, and I don't need to put more money out to change new tires but need to if they'll damage the trans. Yep to beefy.
Hey there Semlohde1, thanks for checking out my video! So anytime you modify anything from stock the wear patterns and service intervals change for other components such as transmission, suspension, axles, and brakes to list a few. If you are concerned with that I would recommend you go back to the stock size listed on the door label. It is a choice and recognition that upgrades make.
Great in-depth review, thank you.
How are they holding now after a few months on them?
Thank you Kylor! They are doing well, there is a little more noise with about 5k miles on them which is expected but it isn’t bad. They do have a few chunks out of the tread blocks but I play in the rocks so again expected with an aggressive tire. All in all I am enjoying them but I need to get them in the mud here soon to see how they do!
Loved the look of the wheels and the tires ! I want to put the same tires on my h3 .. probably 35s....can you ride this mud tires on the road ? And how is the noise? I’m a girl lol idk to much.. I like the mud over the all terrains just for the aggressive look... but honestly I’ll be driving more on the road lol .. let me know I’ll appreciate it ..
Hey there Alerumba, yeah they are great and I love the look too! So I have not noticed a big amount of road noise because really the Jeep has more wind noise when driving. They are definitely fine on road and I think I have around 6-10k miles on them now. I am ok with the sacrifices of on road performance in wet and icy conditions with MT’s. It would really come down to what terrain you take your H3 off road in and how frequently because MT’s are not always better than AT’s.
@@VictorVectorJKU Thank you so much for the fast response!!! I have one more question, if you don't mind telling me if your wheels are gloss black or flat black (i found 2 on the page for the h3... I want mine exactly like your :) ... Please let me know if you can, thank you!!
Yes I went with the flat black, it’s more of a satin which I really like and prefer over the gloss. And I am glad I can help!
@@VictorVectorJKU I agree with you 100%!! it look better! Hopefully for the h3 is the one Bolt Pattern: 6 on 5.5 (First time I'm buying a new wheels. I'm little scare... but I'll give it a try. Thanks again!! You are awesome.
If you aren’t positive definitely give Discount Tire a call and they can make sure you get the right set! Also you might get a better deal getting a wheel and tire package through them and they have a price match program too! Also best tire warranty I have had through them!
Do you have to regear? Looks good bro
Hey Neilsen, I appreciate it and thanks for checking out my video! I have been running the past year without re-gearing but my Wrangler came with 3.73 gears and it’s a manual so I have been alright without re-gearing. However to keep like factory performance I should re-gear to 4.56’s. I have held off until I get a D44 front axle to do that tho.
@@VictorVectorJKU yeah just picked up a 2021 willys sport unlimited 4 doors and I wonder what is my gear ratio. But I heard it's better to add teaser once you slap 35s but might regear if I'm trying to put 37s. Mine is 8 speed auto btw
Awesome, congrats Neilson! Just looking up the build sheet for the willys package it appears you will have either the 2.45 or 2.73 gear ratio based on options selected. It should also be listed on the build paper if you have access to that. There are a couple other tricks to determine ur axle gear ratio if you don’t have the build paper and don’t want to pull the differential cover.
When you say teaser I assume you mean Tazer for reprogramming the computer for the correct tire size? That will be necessary or go to the dealer to have the computer flashed or I believe the vehicle will go into limp mode. My JKU went into limp mode and I needed to correct the tire size after upgrading to my 37’s!
I have also hear that the 8 speed actually does very well with tires up to 35’s and maybe even 37’s but that is just what I have heard, not from experience.
Also if this is your first Jeep, then welcome to the family and if it isn’t then congrats on the new purchase!
Now that you've had these for a year, how well are you liking the tires? I'm looking to replace our Toyo rts in a 37, and this is about the only brand with inventory in stock for my wife's daily driver jlur. Thanks!
Hey there 1300c06 thanks for checking out my video! I have really enjoyed these tires and have performed very well for me on and off road! They handle well on the road and have really great tread life so far! The past couple weekends off-roading they took me up a few obstacles that my friend’s 36” Iroks struggled with. I think all in all you and your wife will be happy with them, they will likely have a bit more road noise than the RTS’s tho but I don’t find it to be an issue for me.
@@VictorVectorJKU that's great to hear. We're installing a long arm kit with coilovers so I figured now would be a great time to get new tires as well. Covid is making that a challenge though.
Very nice! That JLUR is gonna be awesome! And yeah Covid sure has made a lot of things more difficult… but I definitely agree, you want everything looking and performing it’s best with the new lift!
What gears do you have for those 37's
Hey there Kevin, thanks for checking out my video!
I was running 3.73’s for the past year and my Jeep has a manual transmission. I recently upgraded axles and I am running 4.88’s now! The gearing is a huge improvement!
@@VictorVectorJKU I love the tires, I've had 2 sets on my HD2500 truck and I'm putting a set of 35 x 12.50 x20 on my JKU today. I have stock gears and will just stay with 35's. Now on my TJ rocker crawler (RIP) I had 37 Pitbull Rockers on 5.13 gears
That’s awesome to hear! I definitely have found them to be a very solid performing tire! Is your JKU a sport or rubicon?
Oooh very nice a TJ on 37’s with 5.13’s sounds like a solid build!
@@VictorVectorJKU I purposely bought a Sport to keep me out of hard core wheeling. Been rock crawling for a long time. Close to retiring so stepping back. My grand kids love my mall crawler. LOL Make sure you go to Moab at least once in your life. Nothing else compares to it.
Ah ok I gotcha, that’s fair. I have a trip planned for next year to make it to Moab as long as all things stay to plan! I definitely am looking forward to it!!
You're basically buying another tire for 45.00×5 that isn't exactly a great deal especially if it happens 20k miles in and you've got one 100 percent tread tire.
Great review though and thank you.
Thanks for checking out my video Random Dude! That is a fair point about the warranty but I knew I would be hitting the trails hard and didn’t want to be concerned about losing a tire or two and have to pay full retail. We will see if I actually use the warranty!