WHY WAS THIS RETURNED? 2015 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 'BAD' Engine Teardown

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  • čas přidán 20. 10. 2023
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    Today we dig into a 5.7L Hemi from a 2015 Dodge Ram 2500. This was an engine that was sold at a local auto salvage yard and then returned as defective. Unfortunately I didn't get any details like mileage, or reason for return. These are pretty expensive engines (Around 3500-4000 dollars) which generally means there's a high demand for them. Lets figure out what went wrong with this one.
    The 5.7 Hemi had a few iterations throughout the years but this is one of the latest offerings making 383hp and 400ft lbs of torque. Overall I think these engines are fairly reliable but certain operating environments and quickly lead to problems. They do run quite well and aren't particular hard to work on which is nice.
    Why am I doing this? I own a full service auto salvage yard in the Saint Louis Missouri area called Importapart. Part of our model includes buying core or bad engines and dismantling them to salvage the good parts from while recycling the rest. We do not rebuild engines, merely supply parts to those who do.
    I hope you enjoyed this video, as always, I love all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism.
    Catch you on the next one!
    -Eric
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  • @TheMeganBerg
    @TheMeganBerg Před 7 měsíci +100

    😂😂🙈 now i know why you were so sweaty. Not from watching cops

  • @Josb_Bluebird2143
    @Josb_Bluebird2143 Před 7 měsíci +304

    The “Whoever invented the red locking tabs, I hope McDonald’s gets your order wrong” had me lol!

    • @ahseaton8353
      @ahseaton8353 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Worst curse ever!

    • @patrickmorrissey2271
      @patrickmorrissey2271 Před 7 měsíci +4

      That is a true classic..... I was cracking up.... What a horrible curse, omg... That's the worst, isn't it?? You get home, or you get back to work, you open that bag, and it's not your order.... And the sad trombone plays.... Ugh, I hate that....

    • @randomstuff159
      @randomstuff159 Před 7 měsíci +3

      fr tho those locking tabs are hell esp if you break them from trying to crack them open

    • @brentworls8509
      @brentworls8509 Před 7 měsíci

      I mustv'e invented these.

    • @DavidJackson-fb4ix
      @DavidJackson-fb4ix Před 7 měsíci

      Wouldn't a worse curse be that i hope chick-fil-a gets your order wrong

  • @basshead993
    @basshead993 Před 7 měsíci +178

    I work on ambulances for my local fire dept., all of the ambulances are 6.4 hemi powered. On average, at 60k miles they wipe a lobe off the cam. Every ambulance has had at least one engine replacement or been rebuilt. These engines despise idle hours because of low idle oil pressure.

    • @1976axerhand
      @1976axerhand Před 7 měsíci +12

      I heard it's because they designed the cam to high and does not get enough oil to lube it at low rpm?

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Low idle oil pressure? They use 0W40 and have fast idle capability right? How can they have low idle oil pressure?

    • @johnlanser1951
      @johnlanser1951 Před 7 měsíci +16

      Because of idling horror stories I don't idle at all. Always moving if my car is on. But I have heard 2016 and up hemis got a lot better with this issue. Also helps of you don't have MDS. My car is a manual so no MDS.

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +19

      @@johnlanser1951 The engine in this vid didn't have MDS, it has nothing to do with it.

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull Před 7 měsíci +16

      Which just shows they're a shitty engine, because the LA and RB series V8s from before them didn't have this problem despite the cam being in the same exact spot.....nor did the old hemis from the 1950s when V8s in general were still pretty new to MOPAR.
      This is also not a new occurrence for chrysler these days. Anyone remember the 2.7 V6s in the Sebrings and Intrepids around the turn of the 21st and how they would fail catastrophically due to poor oiling regardless of maintenance history?

  • @fuse8052
    @fuse8052 Před 7 měsíci +259

    I see you dislike the red lock tabs as much as I do. Your preparation for dipstick removal skit was hilarious!

    • @jimrossabrena7955
      @jimrossabrena7955 Před 7 měsíci +9

      Did you see a few videos back when he used the forklift to remove the dipstick tube?

    • @fuse8052
      @fuse8052 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@jimrossabrena7955 I'm sure I watched it. Remembering it is another story

    • @alberteinstein3078
      @alberteinstein3078 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@fuse8052how do you remember if you dislike the red lock tabs then Genius.

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Not a skit sadly😢

    • @yeahitskimmel
      @yeahitskimmel Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@alberteinstein3078once you've experienced them on a plug that already has impossible access you never forget

  • @allanwallace9375
    @allanwallace9375 Před 7 měsíci +29

    Love your sense of humour Eric.. The combination of mild slapstick, self deprecation and Ironic Sarcasm is just brilliant, and works to a global audience. Wishing you all the success in the world for an excellent channel.

  • @Skeeter69420
    @Skeeter69420 Před 7 měsíci +22

    Saturday engine tear down time after working on cars all day. Thanks for all the great videos.

  • @litz13
    @litz13 Před 7 měsíci +39

    Note the 2019 date on the oil filter - this engine was essentially destroyed and pulled only four years into its life.

    • @PhOeNiXpIoLe
      @PhOeNiXpIoLe Před 7 měsíci +11

      That would’ve been the last time the oil was changed, could’ve ran on the same oil and filter for a year or more judging by the varnish throughout the motor, it probably only saw two or three oil changes it’s entire service life. Not good for any engine but the HEMIs absolutely don’t tolerate it at all.

    • @devintariel3769
      @devintariel3769 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@PhOeNiXpIoLeindeed. I doubt it was just long distance commuter miles either which would've been better.

  • @theassetStu
    @theassetStu Před 7 měsíci +18

    I'm here for the teardowns... And you great style... Enjoy this sooooo much

  • @donovanhebert8291
    @donovanhebert8291 Před 7 měsíci +22

    This looks like a classic case of high idle time on a Hemi. If you avoid idling the engine, the lifter issues are mostly non-existent. As someone else rightly pointed out, low oil pressure on the top end at idle is the culprit. There is a "fix" that is preventative. The oil pump from the 6.2L Hemi can be used to generate higher oil pressure as the gear has more teeth to generate more pressure across the RPM range. It is also a direct bolt on swap. Otherwise the best course of action is to avoid idle. Personally, I have this exact engine in my 2015 Ram 1500 Limited. I have not done the oil pump swap, but I only let the engine warm up for no more than 5min before I start driving, and I often shut it off in drive-thrus or anything longer than a stop light. Hope this helps any owners out there!

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 Před 7 měsíci +12

      How does Chrysler not consider idle oiling in the design of a truck engine? Truly mind boggling.

    • @richarddubois5529
      @richarddubois5529 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Just look at the name on the truck...

    • @gavinlee7786
      @gavinlee7786 Před 3 měsíci

      Must be miserable having to worry about that

    • @donovanhebert8291
      @donovanhebert8291 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@gavinlee7786 I hear ya. I can say that for me, it isnt too bad. I just turn off the key anytime Im going to be sitting for somewhere more than just a couple of minutes. The thing is that I would be doing this anyway to save gas, so it really isnt that big of a deal.

    • @1gbayfisher
      @1gbayfisher Před 2 měsíci +1

      You must be ahhd or have major anxiety.... I would not tolerate having to worry about that... Not acceptable. You are far too tolerant5 of bad engineering.

  • @CrazyPetez
    @CrazyPetez Před 7 měsíci +20

    Eric, your weekend engine tear down videos are the best part of You Tube. “I hope McDonald’s gets your order wrong”😄😄😄

  • @capt.graybeard
    @capt.graybeard Před 7 měsíci +9

    There's nothing I like more than having a cup of coffee and watching you doing engine autopsy, however being the old fat and retired and watching you a young man do calisthenics in the middle of it, well I almost choked on my breakfast. That was quite a humorous add-on to this video. Keep up the good work! Your videos are my Sunday morning ritual as my wife and I enjoy breakfast.

  • @FrankyRedEyes
    @FrankyRedEyes Před 7 měsíci +39

    Clear proof that training pays off!! Nicely done my friend !! 😂

  • @ouch1011
    @ouch1011 Před 7 měsíci +18

    This engine is a perfect example of why you don’t just put a cam and lifters in these things when they flatten the cam. It scatters metal *everywhere* in the engine. Back when these engines were still relatively new and the cam/lifter failures weren’t as well known, the shop I worked at would put cams and lifters in these (and LS’s). They all either had repeat cam/lifter or bearing failures within a year or 2 later. Imagine dumping a couple table spoons of powdered hardened steel into your oil fill tube. That’s basically what happens when the cam and lifters fail.

    • @Dowell318
      @Dowell318 Před 5 měsíci +4

      So then what's the proper way to handle it when the cam gets flattened? Complete tear down and rebuild?

    • @TheNugler
      @TheNugler Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Dowell318 Chrysler recommends replacing the entire engine.

  • @wjye
    @wjye Před 7 měsíci +12

    Great work sir. Love watching these, I find these tear downs to be super satisfying.

  • @peterwilding1203
    @peterwilding1203 Před 7 měsíci +36

    Gold medal for dipstick removal!

    • @Kiham80
      @Kiham80 Před 7 měsíci

      The only thing missing was some 80s pop-rock and the training montage would have been complete!

  • @tylernottayler
    @tylernottayler Před 2 dny

    those head bolts cracking when you loosen them gets me every time its so satisfying

  • @63Imp283
    @63Imp283 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Eric and Blue your the only channel I can watch 30mins!
    Keep up the great work!

  • @JamesBrown-gf6sc
    @JamesBrown-gf6sc Před 7 měsíci +9

    That was savage wishing the wrong mc Donald's order 😂😭 love you videos man, this is what I truly look forward to on my saturdays

  • @peterblacklin9174
    @peterblacklin9174 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Your photography of the ports is getting much better. I have never seen a cam that bad. Another great video. Thank you.

    • @jeffdayman8183
      @jeffdayman8183 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Saw a few Chev 305 's with the cams made of cheese instead of iron back in the late 70's early 80's. They were that bad or worse. But this one was real bad all right! Cheers!

  • @unavailablenumbers
    @unavailablenumbers Před 7 měsíci +30

    Cams on these are really hard to pull when they get wiped like this. The cam bearings might not LOOK worn, but if you really check, they're almost always warped. Thankfully the block has enough strength there that it doesn't really matter. Despite everything it's been through, this motor's definitely a very good builder as-is. Probably doesn't even need to go 010. I'd estimate mileage at 150-200k or above. I don't think they drove it much after the lifter failed fully.
    Also, I'd hang onto that crank. It's very serviceable, and despite being the cast one? 4893356AA is on permanent 6+ week backorder, and I don't know any source for them at all.

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Why no cams available? Who makes em?

    • @DL101ca
      @DL101ca Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@jamesmedina2062cams are available, cranks aren't.

  • @walrus1206
    @walrus1206 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Thanks for your nice channel Eric. You're a cool dude and I really enjoy watching these vids. Greets from Scandinavia!

  • @Haloedgears360
    @Haloedgears360 Před 7 měsíci +18

    Recently discovered the channel and have been loving the episode binge through all your engine teardowns as they are super interesting and you add some great dry humor to the experience. Would love to see a 3.8L V6 from one of the New Edge Mustangs.

    • @oldcarnocar
      @oldcarnocar Před 7 měsíci +1

      id like to see a 4.6 2v from the mustang

  • @user-ck2oy3xv9h
    @user-ck2oy3xv9h Před 6 měsíci +3

    Good, straightforward approach to any teardown.. and good humor... from a 30yr Master Tech who still learns from everyone

  • @FlySafe1000
    @FlySafe1000 Před 27 dny +1

    Man, love your videios; I always learn alot. Keep up the great work brother.

  • @faceless3239
    @faceless3239 Před 7 měsíci +11

    this was probably one of the most chaotic teardowns yet! loved it.

    • @DL101ca
      @DL101ca Před 7 měsíci

      What? This engine turned freely and all bearings were in OK shape for the most part. Where exactly did you see the chaos? The 2 failed lifters ?

    • @faceless3239
      @faceless3239 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@DL101ca not talking about the engine genius.

  • @mkpi1110
    @mkpi1110 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I have a 2017 5.7 with 290,000 km and I stick to 7500km oil changes and she's been a dream to own!

  • @Cnightz
    @Cnightz Před 7 měsíci +4

    I have waited all week for this video. THANK YOU for feeding my addiction.

  • @robertcochran7103
    @robertcochran7103 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank you for posting this excellent video. I really liked your preparation for removing the dipstick.

  • @masonkeller3584
    @masonkeller3584 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Chrysler most likely make the 5.7's and 6.4's with an oil pump just good enough to last 100k miles before blowing up in order to keep people buying another vehicle every few years. Splash lubrication is a thing of the 60's. no modern v configuration engine is relaying on crankshaft run off to lubricate the cam. in my opinion the reason they fail is due to a sub-par oil pump that does not provide enough oil flow (volume) at idle. upgrading to a hellcat or Melling high VOLUME (not pressure) oil pump would most likely be the best way to prevent camshaft failure... great video btw. always interesting to see how these engines are made.

  • @carson2000_
    @carson2000_ Před 7 měsíci +8

    The dipstick segment was hilarious! Love your videos Eric, been watching for a little while now!

  • @G-regular503
    @G-regular503 Před 7 měsíci +3

    This episode actually made this grumpy guy laugh out loud a couple times. Thank you!!! Good stuff as always sir 😂😂😂😂

  • @Tim-Foo
    @Tim-Foo Před měsícem

    I really like the sound effects, the uh-oh, high pitched voiceovers and of course the dry humor. Thanks

  • @CJBERMUDEZ23
    @CJBERMUDEZ23 Před měsícem

    awesome breakdown my guy 🤘🏽😎

  • @patturnbow8761
    @patturnbow8761 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Another great tear down. Always look forward to these. I can see Mrs. B has been making you go to the gym to train for the dip stick removal...😂

  • @DDE_ADDICT
    @DDE_ADDICT Před 7 měsíci +4

    Grab a beer sit back and enjoy the show.

  • @davekeller2798
    @davekeller2798 Před 4 měsíci +2

    This video, has just convinced me to not by a Dodge truck. I'll just rebuild my 91 Chevy 350 and keep going. Best of luck putting that engine back together and THANKS AGAIN !

  • @wilbready
    @wilbready Před 6 měsíci +1

    FORSHADOWING! I watched this video when you posted it a month ago and thought it was a shame. Fast forward to yesterday and my beloved, well maintained 2012 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 dropped a lifter and now I need a camshaft! The sound was different than the “Hemi tick”. I immediately limped it home and had it towed to the dealership for extended warranty repair. Now, I’m watching this again to see what and where for my own piece of mind. Thank you so much, Eric! ~WilPaul

    • @robertsoria9293
      @robertsoria9293 Před 3 měsíci

      How many miles on it when it failed? 🫡🫡🫡

  • @BiggRanger
    @BiggRanger Před 7 měsíci +15

    Can you please take apart some of the variable valve timing phasers? It would be neat to see how they look inside.

    • @DL101ca
      @DL101ca Před 7 měsíci +1

      They explode into pieces once the one screw holding the spring in place is taken off...

  • @jacobhosler1982
    @jacobhosler1982 Před 7 měsíci +17

    12:14 I don't think you notice how the left most cylinder didn't move, when the others did move.😮😂

    • @budlanctot3060
      @budlanctot3060 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Because the pistons move at different speeds. They "dwell" at the top & bottom of each stroke..Think about it.

  • @AbbStar1989
    @AbbStar1989 Před 7 měsíci

    Love this channel. Here for the support.

  • @module79l28
    @module79l28 Před 7 měsíci +4

    28:35 - Eric, you need to get some sort of basket that you can hang from the engine in front of the cylinders to catch the flying pistons, either an individual basket that you can change from cylinder to cylinder or one that'll cover all of them. I know, I know, it removes the entertainment factor that is watching pistons flying out of the cylinders in slow motion but it can prevent damage when the pistons are good, like in this case. It's just an idea. 🙂

    • @conrasm
      @conrasm Před 7 měsíci +1

      Or maybe one of those moving blankets from HF on the floor for a soft landing.

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL Před 7 měsíci +23

    Eric, when you show a Hemi, you should flip the head over and compare it to a Chevy LS head so that people understand the difference between the Stellantis Hemi and the General Motors LS heads. I bet most people don't understand the difference, though the pictures would show how it is night and day....

    • @erikkovacs3097
      @erikkovacs3097 Před 7 měsíci +10

      I believe the HEMI was designed under Daimler Chrysler well before Stalantis bought Chrysler.

    • @billmyke746
      @billmyke746 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@erikkovacs3097
      Definitely a Chrysler Hemi.

    • @hughmann1537
      @hughmann1537 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Today's HEMIs aren't really true HEMIs.
      The heads have been swapped for a more traditional look.
      So comparing an LS with one of these 5.7 heads, will look rather similar.
      Want a TRUE HEMI, source out an Original.

    • @regisphilbinsscrotum6631
      @regisphilbinsscrotum6631 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@hughmann1537bruh,not even close to the same as an ls.heart shaped combustion chamber,inline valves vs. the hemi,oval combustion chamber, opposed valves,not to mention the dual rocker shafts

    • @hughmann1537
      @hughmann1537 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @regisphilbinsscrotum6631 ...I was talking about the combustion chamber itself. They're not true HEMIs in the 3rd gens. ...more of a marketing ruse. So, calm down.

  • @jeffb2592
    @jeffb2592 Před 5 měsíci

    Great video! I learned a lot from all of them so far. Thanks!

  • @allenbeaulieu7077
    @allenbeaulieu7077 Před 7 měsíci +1

    For a minute, I thought I was watching boot camp! Good warmup for pulling the dipstick tube. Great video!

  • @mahcooharper9577
    @mahcooharper9577 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I was exhausted just watching you limber up for the dipstick tube, no way i could have fought it afyer that.
    Another great vid, thankyou Eric.

  • @notsouninterested
    @notsouninterested Před 7 měsíci +3

    A - I dunno if I happen to like the dipstick skits or the water pump skits more. I think those are both forever my favorites.
    B - Seen it a few times. Although I'm no mopar tech. I've just seen it from few of my friends with 2500's and 1500's.

  • @AgustinCruz-zr1tc
    @AgustinCruz-zr1tc Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is my first CZcams comment! Just had to let you know that I was cracking up at your pre workout before pulling the dipstick. 😂😂 keep them coming

  • @18Macallan
    @18Macallan Před 7 měsíci

    This was a funny teardown! Thank you Eric! 👍

  • @pauldietz1325
    @pauldietz1325 Před 7 měsíci +3

    "What do you think of the water pump?" "Big fan."

  • @09corvettezr1
    @09corvettezr1 Před 7 měsíci +11

    I would like to thank you Eric for getting around to one of these as I drive a ‘14 Ram 1500 with one of these engines, though as I am totally aware of the issue, I take much better care of mine. Mobil 1 full synthetic 5W20 and a Wix 57060XP every ~9000km’s(5600mi) and the old filter cut open afterwards. The factory recommended oil change interval is about 15000km’s(9300mi). It’s nice to see how the worn cam lobes and ruined lifters translates to metal in the pan, which then translates to bearing damage.
    My truck has about 187000km’s(116000mi) on it now. It has had a mild tick from the engine for about the last 60000-80000km’s(37000-50000mi). The tick is almost inaudible when the truck is hot, and fully inaudible off of idle. The tick came on all at once but hasn’t gotten any worse in that time, and the truck runs fine and has never had a CEL or a misfire. A lifter failure of this sort wouldn’t take that long to manifest IMO. A few oil changes ago I pulled the oil pan and windage tray(easy on a RWD truck) to inspect the camshaft and lifter wheels as best I could, I saw nothing of note, and cleaning the oil pan turned up

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Put in some Redline oil, the tick will likely go away.

    • @otkrivenje0
      @otkrivenje0 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I put in my 6.4 10w50 for the last 60.000km(as soon as the warrenty got out), its now on 180.000km, charger rt, and it doesn't have any weird sound, and i don't leave the car idle or anything like that. Not to mention that i drive it like i stole it.

    • @09corvettezr1
      @09corvettezr1 Před 7 měsíci

      @@snek9353 will take that into consideration

    • @DeltaSierra426
      @DeltaSierra426 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah, my 2018 Ram 1500 manual says do not go over 10,000 miles for an oil change under any circumstances. Interestingly, it drops down to 8,000 miles for 2500 and 3500. Hopefully owners realize that's with full synthethic oil and not conventional, but for some reason this isn't mentioned in the manual.
      In any case, looks like the 3rd gen Hemi's with MDS (circa '05 and later) definitely need to be taken care of on oil changes. Kind of crazy though that some can go 250-300K miles without this problem and some get it by ~50K miles. Makes one wonder if QA/QC wasn't controlled so tight by the cam manufacturer, doesn't it??

    • @DeltaSierra426
      @DeltaSierra426 Před 3 měsíci

      @@trainshot17I appreciate those details. I don't know the detail but have been hearing that Mobil 1 dropped quality in recent years, so I don't find that surprising. I used to be a big fan. As for the Pennzoil full synthetic that FCA dealers have been using for years, I don't have any concern with that... or should I bump it up to their Platinum product?
      I do think this issue isn't as common as the internet makes it seem to be. I'm thinking it's a QA/QC issue from the cam supplier.

  • @tally5k339
    @tally5k339 Před 7 měsíci +2

    One of the highlights of my weekend. Thanks for another great teardown, but holy cow that cam and lifter wear made we wince 😬

  • @marathoner43
    @marathoner43 Před 7 měsíci

    The dipstick tube workout was classic. Thanks as always for my Saturday night entertainment.

  • @prevost8686
    @prevost8686 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Those steel head gaskets will slice you to the bone if you’re careless about removing them. I learned that life lesson last week. You’re never too old to learn something new 😂.

  • @johnmoore8599
    @johnmoore8599 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Glad you prepped for the dipstick removal Olympic event!

  • @Baked-as-Bread
    @Baked-as-Bread Před 7 měsíci

    my favorite part of saturday nights now that toonami is dead!
    in all seriousness i love your videos. keep it up.

  • @ajnowell8508
    @ajnowell8508 Před 7 měsíci +22

    Y’know, I hear a lot of bad stuff about the 5.7 Hemi. I have a 2003 Hemi with 300,000 miles on my original engine. I really truly think it’s attributed to routine maintenance and perhaps a stroke of luck, she’s been used like every Hemi should, loud and proud. But she still trucks along perfectly.

    • @movingearth3726
      @movingearth3726 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I have a 06 hemi with 240,000 miles the car got totaled mind you it’s been tuned hot beat the snot out of it we pulled the motor out in a different 300c and she still lives with over 280,000 hard beaten miles no issues …. Yet I believe when they are babied that’s when they have issues just saying

    • @Giovanni_Adventures
      @Giovanni_Adventures Před 6 měsíci

      My 2003 Hemi has 270,000 orginal motor and trans. An i don't baby it either, been pulling a 7000lb travel trailer for the last 3 year all around united states. Its been to 38 states and a few multible times.

    • @rodx5571
      @rodx5571 Před 6 měsíci +2

      When they went to MDS system (multiple displacement system, or the cylinder deactivation) is when they turned to sh*t. Chevrolet has same issues with the system. Difference is the redesigned hemi oiling system that accommodates this system has issues with starving some parts of the engine. Then lifters fail. When the lifters fail (on hemi its the needle bearings in the lifter roller) its pure oil starvation. So older Hemi's have a much better track record. Its the transmissions in the older ones that were the problem. Engines lasted fine.

    • @ajnowell8508
      @ajnowell8508 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@rodx5571 exactly, with the new oil desperation it starves the cam at idle and the lifters start to chew it up causing the Hemi tick, it’s fucking stupid that they would ruin such a good engine with the mds

    • @Giovanni_Adventures
      @Giovanni_Adventures Před 6 měsíci

      @@rodx5571 i would agree, some people say because you idle to much. What is concider lots of idle time, if your in traffic? I live in Souther California so you know i'm spending lots of time in traffic, i have been towing a travel trailer and hooking and unhooking trailer i just let it idle plus for simple stops or if wife runs into stores i let it idle. This is before i even heard of people saying don't idle. 2003 Hemi (No MDS) 270,000 oringinal miles on motor and trans. But also on the trans when towing i'll lock out OD so its not constantly hunting for gears.

  • @mr_mongo7228
    @mr_mongo7228 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Ahh the Hemi Tick strikes again! It looked like a good core that could be rebuildable since they are a dying breed. Poorly maintained but it is a good buildable engine to someone.

  • @DaveImagery
    @DaveImagery Před 7 měsíci

    Love your channel bro!

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto Před 7 měsíci +2

    Good video sir.
    I am surprised by some of your findings.
    Hopefully Dodge engineers learn from others findings.

  • @dertmatyui
    @dertmatyui Před 7 měsíci +49

    WE WANT MALICE!

  • @starbuck1776
    @starbuck1776 Před 7 měsíci +5

    My 2005 5.7 L Ram had 300k miles
    on the clock when I donated it off. It’s still running fine. Good synthetic
    oil and 99% highway miles probably is why it lasted me so long 😃

    • @alexgrindnshine2522
      @alexgrindnshine2522 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Saw plenty of them with 250k plus miles and ran great. No oil leaks to boot.

  • @adsconlabouring
    @adsconlabouring Před 3 měsíci

    Love your work coming from Australia.

  • @peterkruse788
    @peterkruse788 Před 2 měsíci

    Fun tear down ! Nice to see a turner

  • @pauldietz1325
    @pauldietz1325 Před 7 měsíci +24

    That Miata's windshield looks distressingly like it was broken by the driver's head.

    • @user-dc2kg2hm8c
      @user-dc2kg2hm8c Před 7 měsíci

      I'm still learning watching videos on YT. Can someone explain why idling on the Miata or any other engines is BAD?

    • @RobYeates
      @RobYeates Před 7 měsíci +1

      Or airbag..

    • @POVwithRC
      @POVwithRC Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@user-dc2kg2hm8cGenerally long idle does not provide adequate lubrication to the upper cylinders, camshafts etc etc.

    • @billinhouston3291
      @billinhouston3291 Před 7 měsíci

      mmmm hmmm, that looks like a head print to me... :(

    • @billinhouston3291
      @billinhouston3291 Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-dc2kg2hm8c in addition to what roving cyclops said, the engines tend to get pretty hot at idle.

  • @PhOeNiXpIoLe
    @PhOeNiXpIoLe Před 7 měsíci +23

    Kind of redemption for the last 5.7 HEMI on this channel, they’re actually pretty stout all considering, seems like the suffer a lot from shotty maintenance more than anything. Thanks for this video 😊

    • @cliffordcullen1687
      @cliffordcullen1687 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Yep, out of all the late Hemi engines, the 5.7 seems to be the trooper. I’ve seen some with a lot of mileage (200,000 plus) and still running great.

    • @270eman
      @270eman Před 7 měsíci +5

      Idle time kills them. The fleet vehicles that sit an idle all day don't make it past 80k miles.

    • @user-xg8yy7yl1d
      @user-xg8yy7yl1d Před 6 měsíci +3

      The cylinder deactivation 5.7 are totally garbage. The 5.7 with regular lifters and rods are stout enough for a post 1990s engine

    • @Giovanni_Adventures
      @Giovanni_Adventures Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@user-xg8yy7yl1di agrea my 2003 Hemi is before the deactivation and its still going strong with 270,000 oringinal miles and the last 3 years pulling a 7000lb. Travel trailer. Thats kinda one reason im waiting for the new Hurricane motor, i don't care for the 5.7 deactivation.

    • @robertsoria9293
      @robertsoria9293 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Giovanni_Adventureslook up truck central on here.... he has over 225k on his hemi 2019. Im at 72k with my 19

  • @peterterry398
    @peterterry398 Před 4 měsíci

    I enjoyed watching this !!

  • @bartonbeck3199
    @bartonbeck3199 Před 7 měsíci

    Great tear down!

  • @daviddrew4082
    @daviddrew4082 Před 7 měsíci +4

    FINALLY!!!

  • @RangerX5
    @RangerX5 Před 7 měsíci +7

    That was probably the loosest engine on this channel recently...Good to know how to take mine apart if the time came.

  • @bonose12
    @bonose12 Před 7 měsíci

    Dipstick likey!
    Well done and we appreciate you!

  • @RicoCantrell
    @RicoCantrell Před 7 měsíci

    Cracking me up today brother.

  • @dewmontjerkins9886
    @dewmontjerkins9886 Před 6 měsíci +4

    One could speculate all day on what causes these cam wipeouts on the Hemi. I personally think its due to the zinc being removed from motor oil. The newer Silverado trucks are doing this also.

    • @biggestbog
      @biggestbog Před 5 měsíci

      GM trucks wipe out cams due to faulty lifter design. Nothing to do with oil on GM trucks

    • @cameronswan8646
      @cameronswan8646 Před 5 měsíci

      It's oil pressure. At idle and low RPMs it doesn't get enough oil to the cams and lifters.
      Some people swap out the oil pump for the higher pressure one from the hellcat Hemi. Seems to solve it.
      Crap design. Chrysler's gonna Chrysler.

  • @bborkzilla
    @bborkzilla Před 7 měsíci +8

    I miss my old bug. It had exactly one wire running back to the engine.

    • @glenbenton4855
      @glenbenton4855 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I was thinking the same thing haha. Not the bug part, but that harness seems like a nightmare of problems

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +1

      3 if you count the starter.

    • @cliffordcullen1687
      @cliffordcullen1687 Před 7 měsíci

      🤣🤣🤣😊

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 Před 7 měsíci

    Eric, I have to say that I can remember when you tore apart a old motor it was going to be a work out because everything was cast iron or steel. I am sure you have tore apart a few old school motors . Have a great Sunday and thank you for sharing this with me. Enjoyable video as always, I will Thank you again.

  • @bobp5356
    @bobp5356 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video. You were pumping out those push ups. Impressive. 😅

  • @aaronmays5156
    @aaronmays5156 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Mc D’s will get his order wrong, why should he be any different than everyone else!

  • @robwebster1098
    @robwebster1098 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Just started, but as an owner of a 14 charger rt I predict cam and lifter issues
    Edit:
    15:42 called it 😂
    26:40 called it 😂😂

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +1

      You know what to do with yours though right?

    • @robwebster1098
      @robwebster1098 Před 7 měsíci

      @snek9353 oh yeah I know! I'm planning on a supercharger next year and those are definitely the things getting replaced

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci

      @@robwebster1098 Assuming you mean lifters, not what I was getting at, use a 5W30 with more ZDDP, check your oil level often, and up your idle RPM with AC on.

  • @Rospajother
    @Rospajother Před 4 měsíci

    Great video, my 5.7 has 200k miles, I appreciate seeing what’s inside the engines, thank you

  • @cliffordkiehl3959
    @cliffordkiehl3959 Před 7 měsíci

    Good pushups. You're in good shape. I haven't been able to do a pushup in years.

  • @mongo228
    @mongo228 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Thank you for tearing down this 5.7. I have a 2019; runs strong as an ox for now, but who knows what the future holds? Having seen the tear-down, I have a pretty good idea of what to expect should I need to dig into mine.

    • @riccocool
      @riccocool Před 7 měsíci +1

      18 here after 15 years of 6.2s mostly

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Preventing this issue is all about the oil, 5w30, zddp, and check the level often.

    • @jmcghouly4515
      @jmcghouly4515 Před 7 měsíci

      @@snek9353the 5.7L uses 5W20 😂

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@jmcghouly4515 That's what they tell you to put in yes, but it's not what's best.

    • @jmcghouly4515
      @jmcghouly4515 Před 7 měsíci

      @@snek9353idk bro, sounds like it’s just asking for that hemi tick, I think they recommend the lower viscosity oil to prevent the lifters from chewing themselves apart. I guess if you don’t have Mds that’s fine but anyone with Mds should probably just use the recommended oil.

  • @steelio5
    @steelio5 Před 7 měsíci +3

    One thing I’ve noticed about almost every tear down….. evidence of using cheap, unbranded gas and cheap oil filters.

  • @wglnaeclipse8715
    @wglnaeclipse8715 Před 7 měsíci

    Tonight's final score: Gravity 3:0 Eric Entertaining and informative teardown as always!

  • @remingtonwingmaster6929
    @remingtonwingmaster6929 Před 7 měsíci

    loved the workout clip before pulling the dipstick.

  • @fluxfirax5.56
    @fluxfirax5.56 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I have a 2004 5.7. I bought it with 187k. I'm now at 273k. Runs like a top. Maintainable if you change your oil and give her some cleaner every once in a while. The moral of the story is that youdo your maintenance.

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Keep up with your cooling system maintenance, the risk with those early hemis is dropping seats from overheating them.

    • @Chris_de_S
      @Chris_de_S Před 17 dny

      What the hell is a cleaner? I have a 20 year old Toyota V6 - never touch the engine.

  • @Markingfoil320
    @Markingfoil320 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I would love to see a Volkswagen W 12 (from a pheaton not the Bentley motor)

  • @ZAPATTUBE
    @ZAPATTUBE Před 5 měsíci

    Wow, you Really know motors. Great video!!!

  • @jnucci1
    @jnucci1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    A couple of years back, I almost bought a used '17 with this engine. I'm happy that I didn't!

  • @SPAZTICCYTOPLASM
    @SPAZTICCYTOPLASM Před 7 měsíci +6

    The hemi is a good engine but emission/economy regulations kill them. To keep idle emissions down, they're idling pretty low down to 500-600 rpm often, which is really low. To keep it idling that low or help it idle that low, the oil pressure at idle is under 20 psi. This wouldn't be a problem in MOST engines, but the hemi also mounts the camshaft really high up in the block (this is for performance and a great design for a pushrod engine) if you look at the heads the valves are across from each other instead of next to like say an LS, that's great for performance but that means the camshaft and more importantly lifters don't have gravity helping get oil all the way down on where lifter rides the cam compared to a lower in the block arrangement. The MDS system only kills them because it usually makes them burn oil, and the MDS system likes to starve the rest of the engine when it's not running. It's poor implementation.
    To make a good reliable hemi: Delete MDS (with plugs and cam and lifters not software), add a higher volume oil pump (not high pressure) increase idle to 750 or about 25psi oil pressure (software is the proper way but you can also do some janky stuff). The downside is you lose about 4-5mpg which i think is about a thousand dollars in gas yearly. I have several customers who i rebuilt their motors for and they're well past where the hemi tick would have showed up. One of them has a work truck that has 340k km since my motor was swapped in.

    • @firstlast---
      @firstlast--- Před 7 měsíci +3

      5mpg loss on an already inefficient engine is an immense loss in efficiency

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Some of this is right, some is wrong.
      There's no lack of oil to the lifters, the LS has the same high cam and lifter angle. And it has nothing to do with MDS. If you pay attention this engine doesn't have MDS. Also if these theories were true then these issues would be present in the older hemi engines, but didn't really start until 2011. The pre-09 hemis even have a smaller oil pump.
      Low idle oil pressure and RPM is an issue, but the cause to focus on is the 5W20 oil spec and the lack of an oil cooler. Hot 5W20 combined with a low idle RPM is a killer. Put in 5W30, keep the oil from overheating, and change some idle RPM settings a little and they have fantastic idle oil pressure. The key idle setting to change is with the AC on, idling with AC on means hot oil.

    • @alexgrindnshine2522
      @alexgrindnshine2522 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@snek9353you have come to the same conclusion as me. The oil weights our to thin. LS and the new Ford 7.3L pushrod engines have the same lifter problems all running Thin oil and long intervals.
      I like your recommendations.

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@alexgrindnshine2522 Thanks, there's also a big one I didn't mention there. Run an oil with more ZDDP(zinc), ZDDP is a key ingredient in preventing this kind of damage and modern oils have less of it.
      They took out the ZDDP because it can damage catalytic converters if the oil is burned and makes it into the exhaust. So instead of doing crazy things like IDK not burning oil. They took out the ZDDP so all our engines wear out sooner.
      I personally use Redline High Performance 0W30 which is not only a great oil but has a lot of ZDDP. However it's pretty pricey stuff so not for everyone. But we should all do what we can to get the ZDDP we need and there's other ways to get it.

    • @nn-dj2nu
      @nn-dj2nu Před měsícem

      i have a 1996 thunderbird with the 4.6, and a 1993 f150 with the 5.8, both them idle really low like around 600rpm, but i never had a problem with either of them, and they're old high millage engines now, and never wiped out a camshaft like the dodges do.

  • @peterblatt1962
    @peterblatt1962 Před 7 měsíci +3

    A regular viewer of yours, I tell folks this is an educational channel,
    Would like to see an old "F" head pulled apart,,, Ive rebuild a few over the years and they are interestingly different, Yet the same as you know,

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci

      F-head, as in an old Jeep hurricane?

  • @upsidedowndog1256
    @upsidedowndog1256 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Forbiden glitter is my new favorite term. I work on aircraft engines....

  • @user-om8tx2hf8k
    @user-om8tx2hf8k Před 7 měsíci +3

    I enjoyed your Jerry Lewis routine.

  • @A_Green_Plastic_Watering_Can
    @A_Green_Plastic_Watering_Can Před 7 měsíci +3

    I’m here for the malice

  • @REDLINERUNNER
    @REDLINERUNNER Před 7 měsíci

    The workout to pull the dipstick tube? HILARIOUS!!

  • @mentorofarisia371
    @mentorofarisia371 Před 7 měsíci

    Maybe add pull-ups to your pre-dipstick workout. :) Another great vid, my friend. Love your humor.

  • @markvietti
    @markvietti Před 7 měsíci +3

    I have 425,000 miles on the same hemi... never been apart.

    • @hokie9910
      @hokie9910 Před 7 měsíci

      I’ve never seen that kind of mileage out of these engines. What’s your secret?

    • @thomassabia5750
      @thomassabia5750 Před 7 měsíci

      Maybe he doesn't idle it alot

    • @riccocool
      @riccocool Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@thomassabia5750one time a buddy came to lunch with me. I went to start the truck and said oh look- it's already running. 7:30-12:10 idling.

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci

      That is impressive.

  • @andrecampbell691
    @andrecampbell691 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Exhaust manifolds never come apart in the truck that easy. 😢

  • @mikeytitanic
    @mikeytitanic Před 7 měsíci

    Do you ever see 3800 V6 engines? Would be cool to see you tear one of those down! Love your videos btw always plenty of humor to keep it entertaining

  • @andrewensign4481
    @andrewensign4481 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I’ve been watching this channel for a long time, really look forward to Saturday nights because I know another motor is coming apart. My question is, has there only been two motors that the pistons haven’t come all the way out? Rusted duramax and the expensive Porsche?

  • @christopherweise438
    @christopherweise438 Před 7 měsíci +8

    I've done lots of snow plowing in a 2500 with this engine. It never let me down.
    Now the drive train....that's a totally different story. 🙄

    • @coliimusic
      @coliimusic Před 7 měsíci +5

      I feel like all I hear about with Big Three truck guys is transmission issues. Some people go from Dodge to GM to Ford, back to Dodge over and over again chasing transmission issues

    • @christopherweise438
      @christopherweise438 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@coliimusic - Plus, i had rear diff issues.

    • @stevlagrantbulldogs
      @stevlagrantbulldogs Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@christopherweise438 Pinion bearing?

    • @christopherweise438
      @christopherweise438 Před 7 měsíci

      @@stevlagrantbulldogs - Yes, and the infamous Mopar C-clips.

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 Před 7 měsíci

      The 2500 is a semi-float with C-clips? I F'n despise C-clips.

  • @keithzatkalik5805
    @keithzatkalik5805 Před 7 měsíci

    T he only way to start a Sunday morning eating breakfast drink coffee and watch you teardown a engine.