Simforge MARK-1 Pedals Review
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Overall, a great set of pedals. With features normally found on more expensive pedal sets.
Intro: 0:00
Closer Look: 0:54
Throttle and Common Adjustments: 21:12
Clutch Specific Adjustments: 31:49
Brake Specific Adjustments: 46:34
Pedal Base Assembly/Mounting Pedals: 1:01:53
Mounting to Cockpit: 1:15:29
Driving the Mark-1 pedals: 1:16:41
Final thoughts: 1:21:15
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I truly don't know what I would do without your videos, nobody else makes the content you do. It's just amazing how in-depth you go, the time you dedicate to these videos is much appreciated. Makes buying decisions so much easier!
It's cheap because they don't try to have complex CNC of big chunk of aluminum, this is a no bullshit approach to manufacturing and it's nice to see
Yup all stamped sheet metal it's great
It's cheap because it's not robust and a poor Indian copy of Heusinkveld products. The time you'll need a customer support, they will be over.
@@bizibiz It's literally the same thing as the heusinkveld products.. both use 3mm stock.. same dimensions
@@bizibiz someone's mad they overpaid for pedals LoL
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt someone has no means here lol
With a US and European Distributor, these would be competition indeed. Glad that Sim Racing is a global endeavor.
Between This, the Fanatec $350 DD base (+ extra wheel), and a SHH shifter, we might finally have a complete high quality, Direct Drive Setup for ~US$1,000. Which is insane! Just a few years ago, you couldn't get a DD base for under $1,000, let alone a full racing setup!
The Sim Racing Future's looking bright!
now that would be attractive for me ,because these other company's are asking just for pedals 1000+ euros or dollars is insane
Does a CSL DD without the boost kit count as a high end/quality wheel base?? I think you're better off choosing a Simagic Alpha Mini and their GT1-R wheel for $949USD + the $136USD from the SHH NEWT for $1085USD. But you get a way better rim than the cheap fanatec ones and a better wheel base with 10nm and no shitty fanatec customer service. Now this would be a good set up, it's the one I'm currently rocking at the moment and it's amazing. Looks way better than a CSL DD and better quality if you ask me.
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt agree on the simagic wheelbase, definitely a better value if you're on PC, console though, there is no better than Fanatec as you know.
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt csl dd is fine and works really well not tried the alpha mini looks good though
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt only a better value if you really like the GT1-R wheel and must have the extra 2nm. Otherwise you're better off with the CSL DD Boost at 8nm and a universal hub + whatever wheel you want for less money. Or the real Alpha at 15nm plus a quick release hub for another $100 and whatever button box.
Your reviews are spot on and impartial! My best guide for purchases. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Lovely. Lots of competition amongst pedals at the moment, great to see!
You're an absolute legend mate. This is such an awesome product for the price but has very scant documentation. This is my real manual!
Even with the shipping these seem good value, definitely on my wish list
hey there Barry...man do i appreciate your videos..you have introduced me to many different brands,, im pretty new to sim racing and just loving it....these pedals look beautiful and the price is just wow....ya thanks for vids and sharing your passion... see ya on the track.
Thank you Barry.
Never clicked on the vid cuz i was under the impression these were way above my price range by looks alone. Till i saw a different review post the price. Really impressive for the money.
I have compared a few pedal sets of the same price range/features (KRE, Kapral, Fanatec), and these are by far the most customizable and do look like they're built like a tank. The moment I saw the message on the back of the PCB (Senna) it clicked, since their strive for perfection is obvious, especially considering it's their first ever pedal set. To get it this well the first time around is something amazingly rare in any industry and it really shows they've done their homework. Ferrite cores on the USB cable, grounding for the PCB.. good mindset right there. The only thing I'd add is some washers behind those socket head screws/nuts.
found these pedals and came to youtube....this video was the most epic review ive ever seen, i literrally watched the whole video lol
This channel is like the Gamers Nexus equivalent of sim racing hardware, excellent stuff!
Thanks Barry fantastic review I have been looking at these I’m in the Uk so we have duties and Vat to pay brings them up in price but they still look good
Yeah, I’ve just looked at an import duty calculator. Total cost of pedals, shipping, vat and import duty comes to £405 according to their calculation. Seems like a decent deal to me?
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you are lucky to have had this pedals simforge because the manufacturer is closed until further notice because of the pendemie .. in any case very good presentation .. as usual. thank you
lol closed after taking money from pre orders
@@mirshia5248 yes I agree and I should have specified it but anyway who does not benefit from the health crisis eh? Not us in any case !
@@mirshia5248 You should check out the latest Instagram post by simforge. They shipped every order after the lockdown.
This just moved itself to the top of my pedal wishlist. Amazing value here.
Same
Saaame for real, 330USD is so affordable
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt u mean 369
lol they are shit i have them trust me
Thank you!
I was originally thinking of getting the Sprints, but after seeing this, I'm gonna have to reconsider my thoughts. Thanks for the review.
Buy the Sprints you won't regret those pedals.
I wouldn’t sell my sprints for these but I certainly may have chosen differently had these been out at the time with this price point. It’s awesome to see high end sim racing components becoming affordable for the masses.
They would have always been affordable. Heusinkveld and fanatec simply took advantage of being first in the field. There weren't enough customers for other companies to arise, but thanks to Covid, the sim racer population more than doubled in a year. This is the reason why suddenly there is a broad market, and now companies like Fanatec and HE can't take advantage of their position anymore. HE sadly is still trying, and they will realize their mistake in the next 2 or 3 years.
lol sprints are light years ahead trust me i have them
@@mirshia5248 but do you have these to compare? if not, then what the fuck do you know?
Can't wait untill you get your hand(and feet) on the VRS pedals. I have the direct force pro based off your comments on it. Good stuff.
If you want to get hyped, join the VRS discord and listen to the reviews on there. Wayyyyyy better than the sprints
@@maaudio500 price?
@@chrisshurtz5541 seems like double the price of the simforge, with clutch pedal it costs 600 euro
Yes, looking forward to Barry getting ahold of them to test aswell
@@mattspeed VRS pedals are 749 euro.
Barry, thank you again for featuring this pedal set. I received mine a few weeks ago and absolutely love them! Moving from the Fanatec potentiometer throttle and clutch pedals to the hall sensors have made a fantastic difference. I was often having to recalibrate my pedals before races, and now that is not required! Your review sold me on these and I could't be happier!
Still rocking?
@@tombolling6197 Yes, absolutely love them. Cautionary note in set up. I had to make sure to delete all my previous joycalib files, as there is an issue with saving the custom controls in iracing. But on that note, the communication from SimForge was top-notch and they responded quickly to my queries on setup. Highly recommend!
@@rikone01 question, do you have a 8020 cockpit? I'm considering these pedals, but unsure if I'll be able to mount them to my gt omega stand. Also the connection to the pc, what cable is it and how long?
@@whereta3097 Hi. I do not have a 8020 rig. I have an Extreme Simracing Virtual Experience 3.0 rig with what you might call a standard pedal plate. The Simforge setup uses 8020 as its base and by using the t-nuts and hardware it is easy to attach to my pedal plate. I did remove the pedal plate from the rig, attach the pedals and then re-installed it on the rig. The supplied USB cable is more than long enough to reach the PC.
God bless this channel. Imagine where we’d be if it didn’t exist.
Aside from my HPP JBVs I won’t buy a product unless it’s been at the SRG for a shake down. I’m kinda curious as to why the JBVs haven’t been there yet.
I would love to see him review the HPP JBV's as well. But, they don't need it. They are basically the highest standard that speak for themselves. The manufacture is running at full capacity and is always fully booked anyway. Maybe in the future when demand drops he might send some to Barry. But they don't need it. IMO
@@viewpressure I don’t know about all that.
Resolution on the throttle and clutch is why newer pedals are now using load-cells for all pedals. 10 to 15Kg on the throttle and clutch, 200Kg on the brake. This gives a much wider resolution which is far less dependant on throw.
This is just amazing for the price. Im glad the Sim world is growing and breeding new product competition. The consumers win. Just barely over the price of the CSL Elite LCs and you get these, my god. I dont see these being ever in stock. Its also for pre-order and no ETA on when youll get your pedals though
The ETA is mentioned on the checkout page.
I waited two months to get mine. Not a positive experience, they don't work out of the box, mine needed a firmware update right out of the box. An update simforge performs by using Anydesk and accessing your pc.
@@jefferyjohnson7999 that's so weird that they want to use anydesk to update them... They won't work at all??
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt Unable to calibrate the throttle pedal.
You only get to half throttle then basically drops from scale. Not worth the trouble, went back to the good old V3's.
Got my pedals today and will be mounting then soon, nice first impression!
How are they going?
@@tombolling6197 Great, very great! Solid and lots of adjustability and nice under the feets! No problem what so ever.
Just ordered the pedals and everything seems great, the details in this review will be so helpful when I start adjusting and using the pedals. Very nice Barry as always!
I just received mine. Putting them together right now.. i wish they had instructions.. i'm not sure if i'll need to download any software with them, theres no instructions at all so you need to figure out which is the right screw for the job.
@@Triple88a Check in your account and downloads if something showed up after you got the pedals. Just guessing. It is plug and play so no software needed.
@@FrontSeatRacing I checked that. Unfortunately there's nothing there. I'll write them an email and see what they say.
@@Triple88a It is under Manual & Drivers at the bottom of their home page, how did I missed that.😊
@@Triple88a how are they?
Hi Barry, love your videos as always. Hope you can get your hands on a CSL DD soon as we are all expecting a thorough review for that one now that it has been announced! :D
He will not be reviewing them until the final production product is available since he doesn't like to do them on pre production models.
Their Instagram account mentions that the will soon be adding a without base option to reduce shipping cost to the US. Defintitely will get this option and mount directly to my simrig pedal tray.
nice, good that i didnt preorder yet
@@mirshia5248 email just went out today that they are available again and the versions without the base are only 15 bucks cheaper on preorder, estimated delivery is august 10th.
@@HeadOfNixon i dont see the no base version, also only 15$ cheaper? lol that doesnt sound right
@@HeadOfNixon and not just that, the price is no longer 330$ its 370$, do not buy, the price is almost HE price
@@mirshia5248 That's what is listed on the website.
I don't know Roland ! 😉
At 57:50, that's not preload. that's pushing pedal against its stop bumper. Preload would be to screw in the nut on the shaft to slightly compress the base spring.
There should be an additional lock nut at the rod end to prevent that adjustment from moving.
I thought this as well, the preload is adjusting that screw nut only. Not tightening or loosening the main bolt.
Anyone else hoping Fanatec's next announcement is a V3 replacement, and we can see them duke it out against these in Barry's garage?
Thanks for the review. I bought meca cup 1 based on your review. But this set looks too good to be true. I live in Germany and this set will cost around 500 €. I would go for heusinkveld sprint instead. I have compared sprint with meca and at the end got the meca because of the build quality. To every one who wants to buy this over fanatec v3, just get the heusinkveld sprint if money is not a problem. For this, I would wait for Mark 2.
I'll eat my hat if you can get these for under £600 in the UK but to me still well worth the money.
Seems like Barry was only using the spring as the resistance on the brake pedal....the spring has way to much travel .
Lovely made kit ...👌🏻
They are about £370 with shipping
Vrs 2 pedal set for £500 or these for £250 no pedal deck on a aluminium profile rig ?
Barry did you run into any issues with the bolts bottoming in the channels before the t nuts grabbed? I’m heading out to buy washers and was wondering?
Great Video Barry! Has anyone come from V3s and upgraded to these? What was majorly different?
Is there any software included?
And thank you for another Great review :)
No software. You do need to download a configuration utility, but that's a generic thing that works with any game controller. And you only need it to set the limits, or update them if you change pedal travel. Otherwise it's just plug and play.
Every time I find myself drifting back into sim racing the soothing gravitas of Baz's dulcet tones is always there... making me prize open my wallet xD
Please review the OBP eSports Pro-Race V2 hydraulic brakes!
send him one
🤔
They look good. I love my Club Sport V3 but these have got a lot to offer for the price. Hope you're doing well brotha.
You in here Mr Steele? I guess all FPV Pilots share the same interest in cars, simracing and fpv huh? 😁
There is a pair of Fatsharks in the background with an Ethix strap :)
Hi barry! Interesting pedals for its price. But unfortunately, in the U.E, it worth double 😬 so go HE sprint... I hope you will test the brand new JCL hydraulic pedals soon! 🤞
So let's get do it 😁
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Available at the end of January 2021
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they are shit anyway
I’m waiting for the VRS pedal review Barry 🙏
Beautifully engineered, solidly built and reasonably priced set of pedals for what it is delivering. Gotta sort out shipping cost to international locations. I am based in India and have the TM TLCM which are nothing compared to these. Would love to get this SimForge pedalset but i am on console. Please provide compatibility with consoles. Thanks.
Wheelbase compatible electronics board is in works.
Any chance you can go over the software installation or is it straight plug and play?
It's plug and play mate
Shipping to the US is very high, over $200 for me. The pedals seem nice, I know this isn't the first revision, they did significant testing and made improvements over the last year or so. They're most definitely a big upgrade over fanatec V3 pedals but thats not saying much. Warranty would be non existent as shipping them to India is too costly. As much as I like them, its too big of a gamble
The manufacturer can clear doubts about warranty claim and shipping etc. I think they do support warranty. Though no point in speculating either ways
There is a post about reducing shipping cost to US and Canada
Just checked and shipping to Canada was $120 through DHL.
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt what about duties?
not worth it anyway i got them and they are shit
wait for mine
This will be my next pedal set if I choose to move on from my Fanatec V3's...
These or Sprint pedals. The v3 aren't that good once you actually use a good pedal set
@@SIMRIG412 I like the sprints but they seem expensive for how simple they are. I haven't tried them though so I don't know.
@@DouglasThompson they are amazing. I love mine and they're so much better then the v3. I'm actually waiting on simlabs inverted pedal mount for my gt1 evo and Sprint pedals. should be here Thursday. And waiting on my new grid engineering DDU 5in screen with 20rgb lights.
@@SIMRIG412 I will consider them, I'm leaning more towards something that can allow me to replicate my car in real life though so I am wanting a hydraulic damper on my brake pedal. I know I could attach my Fanatec one to it somehow but I'm hoping to find a set with a really stiff clutch pedal spring as well.
After 8 Minutes it looks like Heusinkveld quality for Fanatec money. Nice.
But with none of the track record of reliability or comparability and software. Fanatec has an advantage for console use and pc, HE is higher quality all around for PC.
Shipping alone to the US is over $200 for me ao about $550 total. If you needed warranty you're out of luck, the cost to ship alone would mean you're not getting any warranty service.
@@CaniHaveTheRedPill Yeah I won't run out and buy them any time soon. I moded the shit out of my Logitech pedals (Pressure based Brake, degressive clutch,12bit USB-Adapter)
they are really good now and they'll have to last until I have the money for Heusinkveld or Simtrec Pedals (I'll skip the V3s since they arent much better than what I have now)
Still it's just nice to see some competition in there. Maybe it'll inspire fanatec to bring out better Clubsport pedals or the Heusinkveld Sprints will become a bit cheaper. It's just nice to see competition on those kind of pedals.
@@CaniHaveTheRedPill like any other new product from a new company, it is also too early to judge the Mark 1. Let's not prejudge what none of us have used. Every established company once had no customer and not proven reliability record right at launch including Heusinkveld.
I currently own T-LCM but I'm wondering how do these compare to the new Simforge Mark-1? Would it be an update or downgrade?
These pedals would be an incredible upgrade from any thrustmaster pedal set. These are some of the best pedals that aren’t hydraulic. These as well as Heusinkveld, Meca Cup, and Simagic are all much better pedals than the T-LCM. If you have the budget, I’d highly recommend it.
keep them trust me
Any reviews on Cammus?
Is anyone else having trouble using these pedals with Assetto Corsa or ACC after the updates a couple weeks ago?
Has anyone ordered these and received them yet??? I find it eerie no one other than Barry has made a review on these so far. They're out of stock right now too.
I placed an order for just the pedal set. I'm sure there will be reviews out soon, since they have just shipped out their latest batch delayed due to COVID. I'll post something as soon as I get mine, but it'll probably be a month till I get my set. I think it'll be worth the wait.
I just received mine and I'm really happy with the build quality, feel and service I've received. I would definitely recommend these pedals, especially under $500. Like Barry said, these are heavy pedals, 20+lbs and a solid set.
@@hobbs7794 Still Happy?
@@tombolling6197 Yes I am!
I think the pedal base can be adjusted for inverted mounting as well
Yes, it can but it won't make a difference. The base is symmetrical in shape from all 4 sides.
@@NiranjanOvhal I was talking about having your pedals hanging from the top, like a normal car.
@@SewerShark oh. I see. Inverted mounting is easily possible with these
lmao thats the funniest reply ever! i died
Hi Barry, would you reccoment this pedalset over the Fanatec CS V3?
Between those two specifically, I would personally be happier with the Simforge.
@@simracinggarage3026 With th 300-400eu budget, is there a better pedalset you would recomment?
@@jensbeetsma5240 there is none other than those two, just get simforge
Great review as always. What about the software? Is there any?
Yep good question. No software... Fanatec pedals have also vibration in break and gas. Until now not so god, and is not cheap either. At these price range you can buy tge fanarec with a little extra
@@rosacalu lol these are better than the V3s , Fanatec fan boys are the absolute worst.
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt :)) The thing is I bought the Fanatecs v3 +pk. Now I wanted to buy the mark one but the coronavirus "killed" the delivery boy. I also thought about the vibrations, that it will be something insignificant or scam. It is a Scam partialy, but seriously when I am extremly focused I deeply need the shifting vibrations from the v3's. In the long run I will buy the mark one.
Hello Barry, really enjoy your videos brother. I really like the Sim Mark 1, but everything is back ordered And after shipping it’s $480. Do you have a set of paddles that you can recommend other than the Sim Mark 1 ?
the shipping cost wil kill it and the extra to customs
I think removing the spring would improve the feeling
These or the Simagic P2000's given I'm looking to go into the Simagic DD ecosystem?
So which higher end pedals would you compare these to?
Fanatec V3s, HE sprints
How would these rate against Heusinkveld Sprint pedals? I have been looking for pedal sets for a upcoming sim build i have planned.
We always have to keep in Mind that Sprints costs about the double of the price. The Sprints have a better cable Management. I personally like a clean setup. These two boards with big RJ45 Connectors put me off tbh. This was solved much better from Heusinkveld. Also the LC is a litte bit stiffer at the Sprint-Pedals. But not much.
Over all I would again go for the Sprints for these Reasons:
-Support and Quality is save with Heusinkveld. Also they are very experienced.
-Cable Management
-Gas Pedal is smoother and is easy to adjust
Hope this helps a bit. Also I highly recommend Barrys Video about the Sprints. Please also take a look at this vid and pay close attention what he is there mentioning and what not.
Heusinkveld Sprint is $906 cnd
The SimFordge is $333 US, however they want $130 US to ship.
For me to bring in the SimFordge I would be looking at $650 cnd...so when I look at the $250 price difference...I dunno, the Heusinkveld’s seem like overall the better deal...quality, and highly tested and reviewed.
@@bjornromermann5080 Another plus for the Heusinkvelds is the ability to configure the input/output relationship curve of each pedal by software.
Thank you for the response I am going to go with the sprints! Sim labs p1x simucube 2 pro and sprint pedals
@@bigredracingteam9642 yeah I totally forgot this feature. Have mine only for a couple of months and use them still OOB.
Not related to this video but do you have any wheel stand that you recommend for rally drivers?
what doea this even mean
@@handrewmillan4293 it means he's asking Barry directly if there's a wheel stand that he would recommend for people who play Rally Sim racing games.
@@atrain132 a wheel stand is never recommended to begin with? wheel stands are for very casual hardware and driving. If youre going to dive into the world of "simming" a substantial rig is almost necessary. Each bit of hardware would be carefully selected to suit your driving desires or goals. If you're talking wheel stand... any will do. Because at the end of the day, they're all just wheel stands that can't handle quality hardware. There are so many ways to approach this. Aluminum profile rigs allow for the most ease of customization. But if you're not knowledgable on the subject or a diy person, a full fanatec setup of hardware would be your best quality per dollar. And as far as the rig, there are so many options. The descriptions usually tell you what hardware is meant to be mounted to it (fanatec being a usual subject).
@@handrewmillan4293 thanks for the unnecessary over-explanation that I didn't ask for 😂🤣. I was simply answering your question... All that depends on a person's budget. I myself started with the wheel stand years ago, and there's nothing wrong with them when starting out.
@@atrain132 you repeated his question which seemed to be in search of an answer. I've been through the phases, logitech, thrustmaster, now im in a very expensive rig. You missed the point. That his question doesnt make sense because there are no "rally" wheel stands. Youre quite annoying. Instead of replying to me, you should answer his question
How do these compare with the Fanatec V3? They are about the same price once you add the fanatec upgrades, and the Simforge shipping.
I ordered the Simforge...and the upcoming Fanatec DD!
Barry answered that question below and he preferred the Simforge.
@@AbideinChristFully how is it going?
At $330 are these worth the upgrade from the T-LCM pedals ? taking into consideration i'm only a casual sim racer.
I just placed an order of these pedals and currently using the T-LCM. I'll let you know what I think, but I don't think there is a custom set of pedals like this in this price range.
@@simpatgaming7828 thx for letting us know....
@@simpatgaming7828 ?
ah damn... everytime one buys something one finds a better product just a bit later. I bought the Fanatec V3 last month and hadn't seen this review before... I think this would have changed my decision
i wish i didnt upgrade to these i miss fanatec v3 they felt much better so dont be sad
@@mirshia5248 whats better in v3?
@@mirshia5248 What makes the V3 pedals better?
They look big.
Pedals look great and was ready to preorder until I saw the shipping cost to the US 😥
They're still a good value even at $525ish.
@@natewaddoups6708 I agree, now seeing what's out there for a custom pedal set and their prices. Definitely will pick up a set of these, probably without the pedal tray/foot rest once production picks back up.
Can someone let me know if I can use as an example a set of thrustmaster pedals with a Logitech G29 on PC?
U can
They are building an adaptor which works with both brands
@@jerrygeorge007 Hi, Building one? who is & is it not possible yet?
@@EsR9 Hi, Can you link me or tell me where to look for info on it please.
@@itry8312 I mean Simforge is developing an adaptor that can connect to thrustmasters and Logitech wheel bases. Could be available very soon. Ping them on instagram for more details
hello great product thrusmaster
It's not Thrustmaster.
Barry, have you seen the new Fanatec CSL DD? Any idea when you may get your hands on it and do a review of it? Love your videos btw! Thanks for all you do!
He'll do it when the production model is out
Are these better or worse than the Heusinkveld Sprints?
The pedals themselves are fairly solid for the price, the issue I had with them is the circuit boards would die. First one would intermittently cut out multiple times per race, the new "updated" board they sent died after one week and will not be recognized when you plug it in to USB.
@@HeadOfNixon ohh. I see. What do you have now? What do you think of the HE pedals?
So I got the ultimate+ since i had the money to spare. The build quality is certainly better which you would expect for the price. I cant imagine the sprints are any different and would definitely suit the needs of most every sim racer. One thing I do like about the Heusi's is the config software where you can adjust the response curve for every pedal and save custom profiles.
I dont want to completely hate on the simforge pedals, they are good for the price. I was just a bit disappointed at the lack of quality control on the circuit boards. At this price point though I would argue something like a fanatec clubsport v3 would be a better buy. If you wanted to spend a bit more, then sprints would be a really good choice, but that is just my humble opinion.
Couldn't you have done this review last month? I would've picked this up over the CSL Elites :(
i just bought the V3s. would have bought these instead
@@elProvos Its settled. Barry has failed us
Thats only a 100 more than I paid for my V3s
@Kyle Savage-Lowden Really? Shows $333.00 for me. Do they charge $170.00 for shipping and tax?
Yup, they do. $173.00 for shipping.
$333, great price 👍👍
Watch out for the shipping, $181.30 USD just for the shipping to United States.
@@jonferraez Yeah, this price is approximately heusinkveld Sprint. Thank for your information.
I dont believe this price, no way in the world you get this for that price
@@jonferraez i will travel their for this product, for the cost of shipping
watch out for
"each sold separately" and
"software not included"
and
other clauses
Hey can somebody answer this , are these better or moza CRP pedals is better ? do not compare the budget just pure performance comparison please
I love the look of this pedal set. And the price is definitely in my ballpark. Does anyone know if these pedals will work in concert with the upcoming Fanatec CSL DD PS direct drive wheel? I would much rather have these pedals than the CSL set.
They have a USB connector, why would they not work? You just plug them in independently.
(A year late, oops)
The pedals are still not available for order it seems. Did any customer actually get a chance to order a set and try them?
Anyone receive a pair yet?
Taking orders now. Send an email at info@simforge.in
Simforge MARK-1 vs BJ STEEL load cell?
About 100€ difference
I am very supprised that you seem to did not got a Thrustmaster SF1000 prerelease,... but is a review for it planned?
If I can get one. Not all manufacturers approve of the SRG's review process.
@@simracinggarage3026 they fear the best!
I'm glad not to see a review from Barry since the wheel is not available in the states yet. I'll probably try to get one regardless, but I'll look forward to Barry's review.
Interesting as usual. Compared to the fanatec csl elite + loadcell, how do you compare them?
Uh... Way better lol, these are even better than the V3s. Hell the ThrustMaster T-LCM pedals are better than the CSL LC pedals.
Could someone help and tell me how wide and long the pedal base is please?
Read the manual. Think it's mentioned in it
@@shaunconnor2422 didn't see a manual on there website and i read everything there was to read! Just wanted to know if I could fit them in my simetik rig.
@@amoll932 its 360 mm wide and 210mm in length
@@NiranjanOvhal thank you so much for that info!
Are these compatible with consoles
Really love your videos keep them up. I have a set of T3PA-PRO Addons and when pressing the brake i get a popping sound I pretty sure its the brake spring, any ideas on how to fix it can i replace the spring and if so where to get spring and how to install it ? Thanks.
Now if someone can come up with a comparable Direct Drive wheel base with a good quality rim for under $900.00
And just as you said it Fanatec responded with the CSL DD. Looks like a great combo
@@filipruml Ask and ye shall receive.🤣 Now if B1den would send out another stimi I can afford them. JK.
Simagic Alpha Mini is available with a rim for $949
Nice pedals but just checked the shipping. They want $130 US, and that’s if you don’t want the base...shipping with the base would be over half the cost of the pedals 🤔
So it appears, they’re inflating the shipping to subsidize the lower pedal price.
Those pedals at $333 US with shipping and taxes will be over $700 cnd.
The initial price always sounds-good.
No , I think it is purely Shipping cost alone. You can check with Simforge on instagram.
Shipping companies in India try to loot everyone. Especially UPS, DHL and the likes
@@jerrygeorge007 21 years in the shipping industry....see products shipped from India all the time, similar size weight profiles...it’s high. They want $180 US or $225cnd to ship what you see in the vid.
22lbs
One time ship...Delhi to Canada, would do better deals for businesses making multiple shipments. Of course they would have multiple options, shopping around etc.
Economy 8-15 days $90 cnd
Semi economy 5-8 days $125 cnd
Priority 3-7 days $137 cnd
@@canadiankrispybacon1450 So if I get that right, to ship a 22lbs box from India to United States should cost more like $109.48 USD even at the fastest Priority 3-7 day shipping option, or $71.72 USD if using the slightly slower Semi economy shipping option, after converting Canadian dollars to US dollars. Unless they are using some odd package sizing that would cause it to be oversized or over standard dimensions, it seems like the shipping should really be cheaper here.
@@jonferraez yes, well they say, their price for shipping to the US or Canada is the same...and it’s flat rate....so doesn’t matter the State or Province
Then there is duty...even with NAFTA, in Canada anyway it’s $120 duty, and $16 customs. All plus taxes ((taxes is where the US has a big advantage)
Anyway, my calculations take this $333 pedals to close to $800cnd +tax to my door. I can get the HE Sprint for $900 +tax and pick them up tomorrow.
They’re nice pedals but not HE nice....I am thinking I am paying the extra $100, warranty, proven and well reviewed pedals 🤔
Before anyone sends them their $333, hopefully they really do the research.
I think they could be good pedals but they need to setup a retail environment in North America ...as the shipping tables really drops/kg of weight ...10kg+ the ship rates really drop
10 Kg 8750r 6950r 5490r
Above 10Kg /Kg. 820. 750 550
Above 20kg perKg. 780. 650. 480
Above 50kg per/kg. 750 620 430
Estimated in Ruppes
One question, can we use this or any of the new pedals from today to play American truck and euro truck simulator or this is just for racing games?thank you.
Typically the only thing stopping you from using a certain peripheral is if you're on console, or if the sim/game doesn't support multiple input devices.
ATS and ETS, as well as most games and sims support any controller you throw at it.
@@Cyrenetes thank you so much.
@@designamk1160 thanks
is this only $333 for the whole set of 3 pedals and the base!?
yes that's correct
plus $173.00 shipping if you're in the US
@@SuperCy101 oh... NVM
@@SuperCy101 94$ for the 3 Pedal set
@@chapel976 94$ shipping for the 3 Pedal set
someone said you liked these better than HE sprints? was that true? no way right?
Some have said that they like these better
Sim racing hardware should get affordable and that's the only way this community can grows. Amazing achievement by the young man behind this. He has put India on the global sim racing map. The pedals exceed expeditions and undercuts Heusinkveld.
Do these have anything to do with the feelvr ripoff?
I seriously thought it would cost about 1200 bucks
Barry which monitors do you use? Thank you
Can you make a video that breaks down your top 5-10 pedals, wheel bases, shifters, etc? Strictly your opinion and ranking scale?
He's said he will never do ranking videos or recommendation videos since he wants to give a fair shot at every product and never wants to make anyone feel bad about their equipment. All he'll say is if he thinks it's worth the price or not which is what we all want from a reviewer.
Are there any other SimForge users out there who found that their pedals stopped working with Assetto Corsa and ACC after the last updates?
Or is it just me?
You're not the only one in this comment section that have had this issue , you can't just go and assign them manually?
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt Not at the time, no. I did get them working again, but it's been a while so I don't recall what the solution was. Might have had something to do with uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers.
Since unboxing I have had to unplug and replug the USB cable sometimes to get the pedals to work, and I haven't figured out what causes that. I've just made a habit of checking them in DIView or DXTweak before I start the simulator.
The hardware is excellent, but the software could use a bit more work. I still think it's the best option for the price though, and if the software gets updated to fix these issue they will probably be a better option than some more expensive pedals.
@@natesaforverk166 ah did u talk to them? wtf are they saying about that ? are they fixing the software ?
@@natesaforverk166 damn, I also have the same issue of needing to unplug and plug my T-LCM's for them to work...
Barry your monitors are mounted quite high and far away. Is that for ergonomic reasons?
wow they look like they are worth three times their price.
would you say these pedals are much better then fanatec v3 pedals ?
I just sold my g25 pedals after 12+ years, Im currently looking for some good pedals where price is around 300/400 euro.
Any advice is appreciated
Yes way better than v3s. I haven't used these but its real clear, theyre a big step above v3s. V3s are old now, the csl elite has a better brake and is a newer set. Just my opinion having both sets, and its not the popular opinion, but csl elites are far better. You can space the csl pedals better, they have a better heel plate, the brake is way better, side by side they even look like the more professional pedal, theyre just better. Thats just me tho, but I cant understand anyone thinking the v3s are better. Its generally accepted that the most important pedal(the brake) is much better on csl elites. The hall sensors are better on v3s, they wont fail like the potentiometers on csl elites. However, there is now at least 2 people selling hall sensors that are direct drop ins for csl elites. I bought a set for $35. My friend got a set and they work perfectly and make no change to the pedals other than increasing reliability. Unfortunately these simforge pedals are $333 but its well over 500 with shipping the USA. I do think they're worth the price and possibly superior to huesinkveld sprints while costing a good bit less
I would say they are better than V3s but won’t be as good as HE Sprints performance wise.
@@gregvandy8902 That’s totally your own opinion. I got the v3’s with the performance brake kit and the CSLs feel like toys almost in comparison. The v3’s have way more adjustability in every way except lateral. Which most people don’t need. I don’t think these are worth the risk as compared to proven companies and products. I say go with HE sprints if you’re gonna upgrade for the price these will end up costing with no track record or reliability.
@@CaniHaveTheRedPill but the HE you mentioned costs 700 euro which is xtrmely expnsive for someguy with a budget between 300-400 euro, I also dont consider myself xtremely competitive with simrace, I am moderate guy who enjoys the sim experience.
Im from the netherlands, if I would order the Mark 1 pedals, it would cost totally 440 doller/370euro, total price includes shippment which is 108 dollar/ 90 euro.
what do you think..
@@gregvandy8902 thnxs for in depth sharing of your experience, you made some interresting points, its true that the v3 pedals are indeed old compared to other pedals witch have more updated design and feautures. That is also the reason why i was not so sure to buy the v3 pedals because I noticed more brands and products are entering the sim marketplace, I thought maybi I should ask because those Mark 1 pedals look somehow just supperior to the v3 pedals from first impression.
silly question but can these be invert mounted?
Yes they can easily be inverted
are these on pare with fanatec club sport v3 ??
Great pedals till I saw the $173 shipping cost to the U.S. I know they're heavy.
Can't get too many pedals like this for $500, so cost or not I'll still have my eye on them
Why seriously?
@@averagereviews3389 shipping for the 3 Pedal set is 94$ .
I'm about to cancel my V3 order and get these... Oh man I have a decision to make...
I'd cancel the v3 order. If you've used any good pedals before you'll be disappointed with v3s. My opinion for what its worth but hey, i prefer csl elites by far over v3s. Mine have some mods, about to get the new hall sensors which are a direct swap. I haven't used these simforge pedals but I can tell they'll be far better than v3s. The lack of adjustability in the v3s and the comfort factor alone just kills the v3s for me. The brake is the most important part and csl elites have a better brake while being more solid and more comfortable to use but comfort is subjective, just my preference. I sold my V3s, i used em for a couple months, tried everything. Hooked the csl's back up, feels like an upgrade.
Don’t cancel it. These are coming from an unknown Indian company with zero track record. With shipping you’re better off saving up to heusinkveld sprint pedals. Meanwhile get the performance brake kit and damper kit for the throttle for the v3’s and you won’t regret it.
The shipping will be about $180 USD keep in mind, you have to factor that in to your decision as Fanatec's shipping price to United States on the ClubSport v3 Pedals is WAY cheaper, as they ship from the US.
@@CaniHaveTheRedPill time will tell, it's too early to judge a new company like any other new company that brings out a product. Let's not prejudge what none of us have used.
It’s a tough decision to be sure. I’ve recently bought the v3 pedals to replace my 16 year old FrexGP pedals (all pots) and v3 pedals come no where close to the Frex pedals so much so that I’ve bought a usb board, hall sensors and a load cell to “upgrade” the electronics of the Frex Pedals.
V3s have the damper kit, brake kit and I still feel they’re worse than the Frex with potentiometers.
Sim forge seems to be heavily influenced by Frex design. Especially the clutch is almost a 1:1 copy of Frex’s clutch, which the best “clutch plate” feel I’ve ever had, short of using an actual clutch plate.
I’m not sure I like the load cell they used and how they attached it to the pedal. Its range of movement per applied force is almost perpendicular to the direction of force you apply with your foot, so I’m not sure how much linearity (in applied force) one loses.
I am vey intrigued by the design and tempted with the price, but once shipping is included, it cools me down quite a bit.
This is all my speculation coupled with my experience from using Frex and Fanatec CS v3 pedals so take it with the grain of salt it is warranted.
It's a shame when I am looking at this and I see parts similar to what are at my work, I belive that those springs are die springs from press tooling🤣