How to adjust the VRS DirectForce PRO Pedals Tutorial by David Williams
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- David Willams walks you through basic setups and adjustments for the VRS DirectForce Pro Pedals. So, if you have a set or you are planning on buying the pedals, this is a must see video. And, if you are considering buying them, this video is also a very close look at the engineering and the look of them. There's a reason they are in such high demand, and you'll see it if you watch this video.
For an in-depth article on the VRS DirectForce Pro Pedals by David Williams, go here: virtualracingschool.com/acade...
Timestamps (thanks David Payne):
0:00 Intro
0:22 Overall rake angle
1:50 Face height and angle
3:10 Overall travel
3:52 Throttle spring max preload
5:01 Throttle spring min preload
5:43 Throttle load-cell height
7:23 Brake spring swap
8:44 Brake force curve
10:42 Brake preload
14:19 Clutch preload
14:59 Clutch force curve - Zábava
Great to see a company take the time to make an in depth how to use pedal video, other companies no names should take note! My pedals arrive tomorrrow. So looking forward to getting them setup.😁
Timestamps!
all pedals
rake angle - 0:22
face height and angle - 1:50
overall travel - 3:10
throttle
spring max pre-load - 3:52
spring min pre-load - 5:01
load cell height - 5:43
brake
spring swap - 7:23
force curve - 8:44
pre-load - 10:42
clutch
pre-load - 14:19
force curve - 14:59
Thank you David, very helpful!
Keep the how to & tips videos coming for both pedals and DD as your products are looking very good. Adding high quality how to & tips videos will only add to the VRS experience so anything to make things easy to understand for customers is a big plus.. love the direction you guys are going.
I just tried my VRS pedals today, didn't have time to set them up properly but I can't wait to drive again, they feel really good and the change from Logitech G923 pedals is incredible
Been running these since November 2021. Never will I buy another set, absolutely love them.
Just got my VRS 2-pedal set on Christmas and I immediately fell in love a second time with them when unboxing them and checking all the mechanical adjustment possibilites ... I adore the engineering .
First time I fell in love was on the SimExpo2022 in Nürnberg after trying them out at the stand of Bavarian Sim Tec (I also tried Heusinkveld Sprint/Extreme and SimuCube´s "Ultra-Adjusto-Pedals" and the VRS´s were my personal favorites) .
Despite the pedals not being setup to my preferences I immediately felt at home with how they actuated and felt under my feet, they were just butter compared to my abused CSP v3´s .
Thanks for the tutorial and your hardware in general, one very happy machine-tooling engineer/customer :)
Looking to start upgrading my sim racing setup(long overdue), and as I’ve been doing tons of research on the various avenues I can go in terms of hardware, rabbit hole like any good hobby, after this video and all the countless reviews I’ve seen and read online about the vrs pedals I’m for sure adding these to the rig in the next few weeks. Killer work, and great video going over the various adjustments.
Very nice! Seems like more adjustability than any other pedal sets in the same price range!
Can’t wait for them to be available and replace my v3s, time to be on the next level!
I have a set of these on order but I don’t actually really understand what any of these adjustments do in terms of how they translate to real life feel or when you would do one adjustment vs another. It’s actually a little daunting to play with these as there are so many adjustments. Any resources that offer a more basic explanation as to what each adjustment actually does?
Great detailed video. Tho I think most would prefer if they shipped with the red spring installed or give the user the option to choose during checkout.
Fantastic video David. I was lucky enough to be one of the first on the list and just want to share that they are miles ahead of my old V3s and Sprints. Now i am just hoping for some VRS ACC guides ;)
That's great to hear!
Just got these installed on my rig. So much better feel and precision than V3s offer. The software was harder than should be to find unless you use discord. I’m just getting used to the blue brake spring and this seems a good start. More travel and harder force than V3s with standard blue spring. The throttle force standard feels great. As hard as V3s. The software seems easy enough to use. You get physical adjustment as well as software adjustment. I’ve gained seconds in the short time using them and consistency. $550ish for V3s & BPK or $750ish for VRS, $200 odd more is a no brainer! Who uses a clutch anyway!
Me! Can't wait for my three pedals.
Clear precise tutorial......Thank You Very Much!
where do I find the spacers for the brake preload? in the box or where? Thanks in advance
While adjusting the position of the new product, the white part in front of the load cell of the accelerator was slightly scratched, and there was a sensor problem. Is there any way~? It was the first time...
Wish they where available to buy!! I’ve waited since last year….lost patients now going to buy HE ultimates +
What is the withe rod with the two black spacers good for? First I thought they are bump stops but they don't touch the orange stopper rod. It's on all three pedals. No clue what its good for
Any feedback on using these inverted?
Is the dampers kit worth it?
Is it possible to set the force through the brake to 40kg?
Also would you recommend these for a Playseat Trophy?
Highly recommended by Govand Keanie
I'm a VRS Direct Force Pro owner and reserved a set of these pedals on April 11. When can I expect they will be available for me to purchase?
Update from May 8th: "I expect us to send some invitations for the US pedals reservations this weekend and more throughout next week. We finally had all the components checked into inventory in our US warehouse today (Friday). We'll expect to have another small batch in EU before the end of May with a bigger batch in EU and US in June and then more in July. Australia may get just a handful of units before the end of May with more in June and July."
Does anyone know the connector type the pedals are to the controller?
please make the dampers available one by one. Its ridiculous you have to buy 3 if you only want one on the throttle.
which bolts are suitable for them? M5 or m6?
What sim rig are these mounted to?
I am loving my pedals and my only real complaint is that purple spring for the clutch. Is there a black, red, or even orange to match more? I know it's not that important as the feel is more important thing.
I have these pedal sets, and I'm desperately trying to alter the second stage point on the clutch. Is that possible? because out of box, the second stage (the feeling of drop in force needed) is at the near end of the travel (final 95%) which is not realistic at all..
You explained the adjustments for the clutch on your video but you never mentioned what those adjustments results as feeling in real life driving?
I am putting rumble motors on all 3 pedals I think I will leave the settings for feeling to those!......
However I always like a stiff feeling clutch to begin with!
Did you ever figure this out? I'm wondering if the load cell needs to be lowered a bit to cause the cam action to occur sooner in the pedal curve. Like you, I find the out of the box feel to be very baised to the last bit of travel.
I am about to order those. Isn't there a baseplate necessary for the sim rig?
Not If you have an aluminum profile rig.
@@adambuzzeo I have my rig but I prefer to invert mount my pedals
I have a floor plate for my feet to rest on with a small piece of carpet as i race in my socks,
(no shoes worn inside my home!).....I had a plate made from .120" T6 Aluminum to invert mount
the pedals to, that way I can just remove the plate for adjustments needed for the track I'm running at
(NASCAR Modifieds and Truck Series) and in place for pedal location adjustments (seldom adjust that anymore!)
I find that invert mounting makes it easier to keep things clean in the foot well area as well!
Does the DD and pedal kit work on consoles or its all PC only gear?
Might work a Gimx adaptor, but I’ve no personal experience of this.
What pedal plates are those, with locking levers?
There is no way you swapped that spring that easy! My hands are literally bleeding and I still haven’t got it!
Well, If you loosen the preload rod above, it gets super easy ;)
The blue to red brake spring? It was simple here as the video, required no real force.
@@gpellis did you loosen the tie rod before taking the spring out then after just tighten back up thinking of putting the red in from the start,thanks.
I didn't have an issue. The hardest part for me was getting that Clevus sprint back in
@@adambuzzeo me too!....
First the clevis end wasn't going in and seating.......
Flipped it 180 then it popped into place......
Had to Preload the rod a bit and jiggle the pin a bit and it went thru!.....
Slapped the clamp back into place and DONE!.....😉
No bloody fingers either!.....😊
How do i get hold of the calibration software?
If you already have the VRS Direct Force Pro wheel base (Like I do) than you already have it!
just update your software as there are many new adjustments/fixes to the original!
Is it possible to swap out the throttle spring?
Also, how are the dampeners installed ?
what dampers?
@@irongoatrocky2343 There are dampers for this pedal set which are impossible to find.
How can I adjust my clutch so that it doesn’t suddenly jump back so quickly. Is it adjusting the preload or what exactly?
You can limit the travel with the adjustable red stand-off. This will in turn limit how much the pedal force drops off past the peak. Remember to recalibrate once you're done (you can also increase the upper deadzone).
@@realVRS How do I adjust the "bite point" effect? Right now it feels like it happens at the very end of the pedal travel, just as it hits the red stand off. I want it to happen much sooner in the travel range if that's possible.
i need firmware or software for acc ..please
The standoffs look like there faced like "nuts" so do you really need 2 hex Keys for every adjustment?
I did it with one hex key for adjustments. Two would have been easier though.
@@oren740 right, if it comes with 2 of each size with purchase, awesome..I know I have a 10mm spanner and a metric range of keys...but 2 of each is hueskinveld money!
@@droors77 A 10mm spanner for attaching pedals to my rig and one set of metric keys is all I used too. You should be fine. :)
Does this have software?
Is there a base plate to mount it on the Rig?
Not currently but there are plans. They're compatible with many other base plates on the market though - anything with a longitudinal distance between slots of 95-145mm will work.
@@dgwilliams_31 Hi David. Is a baseplate necessary to avoid extra flex? My sim rig comes with an usual pedal base and some holes.
@@Michelsen77 flex can come from more than just the baseplate, the whole rig can flex if it’s not strong enough. Best bet is to try it and see if it’s up to the job.
@@Michelsen77 Hi I was wandering if you found a solution for mounting the pedals and what rig your using,hope you don't mind me asking,thanks
@@trevz1048 Hi i just simply screwed the pedals on two layers of wooden plates (about 6-7cm thick together). Then i used black foam like foam imagine you use to protect the floor for homegym. To cover the wood. Glued together with a hot glue pistole. You might think wtf, but it looks very good and stays there for already hundreds of hours.
Guys PLEASE! when explaining how to adjust the tie rods make sure to mention that the nut closest to the pedal loosens the normal way (counterclockwise) but the other nut needs to be turned the opposite way (clockwise)! Honestly, how are we supposed to know if we're not familiar with tie rods. Alternatively, please provide a manual.
08:30 "may need to preload the spring slightly" - meanwhile my fingers are about to explode!
never mind, got it 4 seconds after moaning on youtube :)
I’d like to order those… but damn it looks so daunting I’m really discouraged… it looks like a nightmare to do all these stuff in a tight rig
I ended buying the vrs pedals. They are a bit of a struggle as it looks, but hopefully you aren’t going to change the regulations more than a couple of time. I really don’t like the fact you need a pair of Allen keys for almost anything but the pedals are pretty awesome.
Imagine having good pedals
Why is he not explaining what these adjustments accomplish?
Watch the Boosted Media YT video on these pedals! he explains a lot!
Are you guys planning to send them for review to some reputable channel like Sim Racing Garage?
Yes, we will do once the supply is greater so we can meet the extra demand that may bring :) Dan Suzuki has been using them for several days now though, so I'd recommend checking his Twitch channel to see what he thinks - hint: he likes them ;)
what does changing the height of the loadcell do?
I want to know too
The accelerator spring doesn't look right
We've chosen to omit an alignment rod to essentially reduce friction to zero. The spring is well secured at both ends and can tolerate being bent slightly without issue.
@@dgwilliams_31 so strange, I've never seen a spring do that.
this spring fail in a little time working like a snake. The pedals looks incredible but this spring kill it
Also this pedal feels great!
@@egames.axel_iracing3669 its a spring, its made out of metal. The point of a spring is to bend and then unbend. It snakes a little, but springs are able to do that. It looks ugly but theres no reason for it to fail being used like this. What do you even mean by failing anyways? You think the spring will shoot out of the pedal? Or it will run out of springyness? Or it will harden and then snap?
Are you just going to leave out the fact these cost £500+ and have a throttle spring that looks like that ?
The bigger problem is "How to *AFFORD* the VRS DirectForce PRO Pedals" 😃👍
I afforded mine by selling my JVB3's!......
Had some cash left over to boot!
That throttle spring looks jacked up?
That's how it appears with a rodless pedal design. The travel in the spring is in 2 axis, so it needs to be a bit misaligned. It's a small concession to have the low friction of a rodless design. Lots of RND went into that decision.
Thanks for the explanation Keegan. I have the direct force pro wheel base and absolutely love it coming from the Accuforce V1. I assumed there had to be a reason for the spring appearance however it was something that caused me a bit of concern. I guess I’ll order up whenever stock gets in
The brake pedal adjustment seems so over complicated. I like to be able to adjust my brake travel and resistance between road and race cars, and I dont think I want to more or less de-assemble the whole brake pedal every time.
Wait ,did you just say they were a pain in the butt right off the rip, are you mad?
idk why this video popped up as a suggested video, but it appears piss poor design with no care to type of people in target demographic... young people with money and barely an education much less mechanical knowledge... torque, pressure, friction.... vs muscle strength of quadriceps and gastrocnemius muscles.... you just assume your buyers would be able to make adjustments with them holding against those pressures... hand muscle tightening vs leg muscle during use... just saying complete freedom of adjustments vs set angles to help support the nuts and bolts seems INANE...
Do you even know what you're talking about? 🤨🤦♂️
@@EricGibson1 yes... in no world will your hand muscles ever be stronger then your legs... and the common theme amongst sim racers to press the brake pedal as hard as humanly possible during calibration, i have no doubts, will out do the the pressure and friction keeping those adjustable pedals in their settings... i would put money that the threads will strip before you can generate enough friction to out do your leg strength. AND even if you do generate enough friction, it won't last the more you press the pedal during use.... most often referred to as WEAR AND TEAR on a product. legs are really goddamned strong considering they're holding your mass against gravity your whole damned life while your forearms and wrists aren't...
@@EricGibson1 not to mention the fact that there are plenty of sim racers who appear to have just gotten out of diapers, in a manner of speaking...
@@EricGibson1 do you even know what an impact driver is? to make up for lack of torque generation you can't create with your arms... the driver impacts the bolt head over and over to tighten it down.
@@emteehed threads to strip out on what? I have the red spring in mine and I set it max at 100% when I calibrate and no problems. They are built tuff and actually are on par with the Heusink's ultimate+ for a good nit less. There's absolutely zero play in these pedals. I just don't understand what in the world you're rambling on about.