The Joker's FAILED Solo Series!

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • The Joker has been Batman's arch nemesis since the Golden Age of DC Comics, but has had a solo series only a handful of times. We travel back to the Bronze Age in the 1970s to examine how restrictions and a Batman free comic led to a Joker team-up extravaganza.
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Komentáře • 313

  • @linesonpaper1245
    @linesonpaper1245 Před 3 lety +173

    So, Joker falls in love with Dinah Lance after meeting her once in a flower shop? Good thing he didn't wander into a newspaper publisher in Metropolis, because in those days Lois would have married him.

    • @rdbull5890
      @rdbull5890 Před 3 lety +10

      😂

    • @lolaseiss
      @lolaseiss Před 8 měsíci +8

      Nah he'd need to be both 'handsome' and have built a lois lane stalker room... sorry I meant "contemplation chamber"

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 Před 12 dny

      ​@lolaseiss If you get past the green hair and bleached skin , he's not that bad

  • @MobiusMundUr
    @MobiusMundUr Před 3 lety +63

    I'm so burnt out on Joker at this stage, I can't believe they're giving him ANOTHER story that revolves around him

  • @SuperEasywalker
    @SuperEasywalker Před 3 lety +48

    Fun Fact: In the “Batman: The Brave and the Bold” TV series did a Joker centric episode called “Joker: The Vile and The Villainous” in which he teamed-up with the villain the Weeper to stop Batman from implementing a crime-stopping machine in Gotham. Basically it’s just a similar episode format of the show only it’s the Joker as the main character, so I guess that episode was inspired by the old “Joker” comic since that series was based on the Golden/Silver comic of the same name.

    • @twilightman2816
      @twilightman2816 Před 3 lety +7

      The second issue of the 70s comic ( 0:21 ) actually has the story featuring "The Weeper". The cartoon episode is pretty much 80% of the actual comic. Joker meets "The Weeper", gushes about how a big fan he is of him, then agrees to team up with the older criminal. At the end of the story, "The Weeper" attempts to double-cross The Joker. Sasha skipped the second issue.

    • @robertmccarthy2254
      @robertmccarthy2254 Před 3 lety +2

      True but weeper was also a Bulletman foe. When I was a kid I saw SO MANY "uh MAYBE THEYRE setting up thing....
      in two he meets the weep WITHOUT BULLETMAN. in 3 he meets a Billy Batson that's not THE Billy batson. Also ethier JOKER'S a moron or he knows the creeper's id. Oh yeah whoever censored 5 did a bad job cus they get away!

  • @alexandersmith7061
    @alexandersmith7061 Před 3 lety +50

    A clown in a silly suit? We can’t let our kids see this! They’ll be scarred and be delinquents and steal clown-themed gizmos!
    A maniac with half his face gruesomely melted? Totally fine

  • @Vegadra
    @Vegadra Před 3 lety +74

    Looking at the thumbnail, i thought this was going to be about the Joker marrying Wonder Woman.

    • @blackrazer22
      @blackrazer22 Před 3 lety +32

      only if Lois does not get there first.

    • @MrXCoolManX
      @MrXCoolManX Před 3 lety +19

      @@blackrazer22 "I married Lois first Stuperman! AAAaahahahhahah!
      I'm sure you have a Lois robot you can repurpose!"

    • @blackrazer22
      @blackrazer22 Před 3 lety +8

      @@MrXCoolManX What is really funny about you comment, last Sunday I went to a comic show and bought a copy of Superman Family. It has a story of Lois tuning into unattractive cybog. Before the transformation, Superman does propose to Lois. The comic also has "A Gallery of Lois Lane's Robot Doubles" The Gallery shows the 4 times Lois has been replaced by a robot.

  • @RennocD
    @RennocD Před 3 lety +37

    I will forever be haunted by Flash laughing himself to death in super speed.

    • @gregcourtney7717
      @gregcourtney7717 Před 3 lety +3

      May I add Flash experiencing super speed epileptic seizures from tower of Babel. And that that was originally Batman's idea.

  • @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038

    I prefer it when lesser known villains get a book. Especially when they team up like in Secret Six and Superior Foes of Spider-man.

    • @tomorrow4eva
      @tomorrow4eva Před 3 lety +3

      I agree. That way they don't all have to be out of jail every issue, and they can have plots and drama that don't even involve heroes and crimes.

    • @DavidTSmith-jn5bs
      @DavidTSmith-jn5bs Před 7 měsíci

      Marvel attempted to do that with "Super-Villain Team-Up." It didn't last long either.

  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest Před 3 lety +59

    I've read the recent Joker book, if you want your villains threatening and evil, either make it the entire book (Which can get dour real fast), or have them not be the lead character, because you to see them stopped.
    (4 years without the Joke, what a time to be alive.)

  • @mynardomacaraig2697
    @mynardomacaraig2697 Před 3 lety +41

    Marvel's Supervillain Team-up ran for several years. Yes, it was mostly Dr. Doom vs. Namor but it definitely focused on the villains.

    • @davidmcmahon4633
      @davidmcmahon4633 Před 3 lety +2

      Didn't that start within a few months of the Joker. Both Marvel and DC deciding to do a villain-centric comic? Or one of them did it first and the other decided to get on the bandwagon?

    • @gregsug1640
      @gregsug1640 Před rokem

      DC also had the Secret Society of Super Villains which started in 1977...

  • @JohnGolden
    @JohnGolden Před 3 lety +40

    I loved this series as a kid. Because of being villain centric, the stories felt fresh. Didn't mind the silliness. Similar to the roughly contemporary Supervillain Teamup with Doom and Namor in Marvel.

    • @blackrazer22
      @blackrazer22 Před 3 lety +4

      I have the Supervillain Teamup comics. Good stuff. Doom's fight with Red Skull is priceless.

    • @JKXYGolden
      @JKXYGolden Před 3 lety +2

      They were cute! My brother and I were reading through the Joker vs. Catwoman issue the other day. Shenanigans galore

    • @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
      @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Před 3 lety +2

      I've only seen the one where he teams up with Lex and goes to a fast food restarasunt. Saw it in a vid and wanted to check it out

  • @kcollier2192
    @kcollier2192 Před 3 lety +6

    7:22 OK- Jokermoble vs the Spidermobile- let's take it to a vote!

  • @Lukecash2
    @Lukecash2 Před 3 lety +69

    The problem with any “villain” ongoing series is that eventually they become heroic. Venom, Red Hood, Lucifer, Deathstroke, and so many more loose the edge that made them popular.
    Even Gail Simone, who can write entertaining, engaging anti-heroes ends up softening up Secret Six characters.
    The best you can actually hope for is a mini series, where they go against an evil “legal authority figure” so an evil against evil or a one off evil plot where you see the effect of The bad guy on the “normals” of the world.

    • @blackrazer22
      @blackrazer22 Před 3 lety +17

      That's why most villain series don't last.
      The Thunderbolts worked as an ongoing because the idea is that they would reform from the beginning.

    • @artfcialtv
      @artfcialtv Před 2 lety +5

      @@blackrazer22 Damn, I miss the Thunderbolts. Or rather I miss the thunderbolts I got attached to, because I’m pretty sure there have been several.
      But yeah, they were anti-heroes from the start. I followed the ones that were color-matched.

  • @mooncaketin
    @mooncaketin Před 3 lety +45

    Can't decide which one I want to see immortalized as merch: jheri curl Joker or Elton John-themed villian! 🤔

  • @galio7741
    @galio7741 Před 3 lety +7

    I have to say, your Batman, Spiderman and Joker voices are golden

  • @queenannsrevenge100
    @queenannsrevenge100 Před 3 lety +4

    I was honestly expecting a green wig with purple blouse for this video. 😀

  • @SoulEaterTV101
    @SoulEaterTV101 Před 3 lety +11

    I would enjoy a golden age of horror comics video! Perhaps with a highlight on some that would shock that they were even published.
    Either or, love the content!

  • @FrenchPotato661
    @FrenchPotato661 Před 3 lety +7

    The idea of joker loving house music is too perfect!

  • @ShadowWingTronix
    @ShadowWingTronix Před 3 lety +4

    The Bronze Age is my favorite version of...DC in general actually, since it's where I came in and why I came in...but that includes Joker, as not just a killer with a clown face but a showman criminal. It's like the best of both interpretations and I'm glad TAS was closer to that incarnation.
    Maybe if the Joker is in a comic you can avoid they'll keep him out of Batman stories for a while? Maybe?

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason3740 Před 3 lety +12

    When I was a child I read a Superman book - ten cents - where everybody on Earth forgot who Superman was. His ego takes a huge hit in the story and as a child I felt his pain. Comics.

  • @andrewi.crocker8675
    @andrewi.crocker8675 Před 3 lety +4

    Supervillian stories tend to work best with teams, like Suicide Squad, or The Secret Six. Having that dynamic of different personalities trying to work together makes it more interesting

  • @emmaparker8203
    @emmaparker8203 Před 3 lety +25

    Honestly though... I really enjoy the oj series. It's corny as hell but it's fun.

    • @mugi-wharingan8150
      @mugi-wharingan8150 Před 3 lety +6

      U mean the one where he fleas in a Bronco from the cops after he kills his wife and her lover????

  • @JKevinCarrier
    @JKevinCarrier Před 3 lety +3

    Now that you mention it, there were several attempts to do a villain-led series during the Bronze Age. Besides Joker, DC also had "Kobra" and "Secret Society of Super-Villains", neither of which lasted very long. Marvel had "Super-Villain Team-Up" and "Dracula", the latter being the only one that had any staying power (60 issues).

  • @arpitpatel2781
    @arpitpatel2781 Před 3 lety +3

    Can you do a video on Lois becomes the Queen of Amazonian Amazon? Superman Vol 1 #59

  • @KierTheScrivener
    @KierTheScrivener Před 3 lety +3

    I really liked Joker #1 by focusing on Jim and how he affects people was a really good angle.
    I'd love you to review the issues! Or a full Confusing History or Retrospective on him or any of the Bat villains or Arkham.

  • @Insane-Howl-Cowl
    @Insane-Howl-Cowl Před 3 lety +11

    Sounds like issue 10 would become the Batman who laughs

  • @Harleyxjokerforever
    @Harleyxjokerforever Před 3 lety +16

    The problem with villian solos is damn near every single one end up turning into a redemption for said villian. 😒

  • @christianbrass6959
    @christianbrass6959 Před 3 lety +2

    I bought the creepiest Joker mask I could find it's the best way to enforce social distancing.

  • @kellyrusk8015
    @kellyrusk8015 Před 3 lety +3

    I bought the Joker Omnibus immediately when it came out mostly for the unpublished issue #10. I guess that makes me a true collector/connoisseur (obsessive/compulsive?).

  • @mikewilson3581
    @mikewilson3581 Před 3 lety +2

    The story behind the DC Comics 70's "Implosion" would be interesting.

  • @lonemotheo1964
    @lonemotheo1964 Před 3 lety +8

    Sasha: "I'm so tired of Joker... So much Joker!"
    *A FEW MOMENTS LATER*
    Does another Joker video

  • @benadrylthundercrotch7144

    I think a Joker book could be interesting if it's run kind of like the later parts of V for Vendetta where the focus is on the characters effected by Joker rather than following him directly all the time. Like maybe an anthology series of people reacting to his influence in different ways.

  • @bsabruzzo
    @bsabruzzo Před 3 lety +8

    So, is this book canon? If not, then it easily be a fever dream for the Joker.

  • @adivorcee2357
    @adivorcee2357 Před 3 lety +4

    4 Years without The Joker? That sounds so beautiful I might just cry.

  • @gruknarorcishwar-yerhereto8489

    Wow I’m early as hell..... have you thought about looking into the crime syndicate 2021 comic?

  • @santinodecapua6407
    @santinodecapua6407 Před 3 lety +2

    The approach to the new Joker book feels like the right direction so far, seeing as Joker is most likely being framed for the attack on Arkham by Scarecrow and having him be hunted down is a good way to approach the a villian story.
    Because too much Joker doesn't work- but having it have to actually confront his actions and impact whilst Gordon potentially digs a hole for himself going after him straining his connections in life can be compelling.
    And I'd like to that approach brought to more villains if possible even if for a mini run/anthology

  • @NerdyBirdy80
    @NerdyBirdy80 Před 3 lety +3

    Maybe a villain led series could work if it was like an anthology where each issue is a different villain protagonist 🤔

  • @wavemaster4891
    @wavemaster4891 Před 3 lety +2

    I think a villain comic can work, but mainly if the villian is constantly having heroes coming close to discovering his traps and plans before he is ready for his reveal. So the entire time is just a viallian doing damage control to salvage his evil scheme. So makes this a villian run from someone who is not a high listed villain. But better than someone like Kite man, or at least more capable, maybe the Riddler? Either way the method for the comic has to be like the formula for a heroes comic, but with the villain being surprised by how quick a hero or heroes are on to a scheme and the various things they got to do to try to conceal everything before the hero comes crashing in.
    The only other method I can think of other that the last method is how The Escape from Arkham Suicide Squad movie went. With A villain learning they have x amount of time to try to achieve a objective because the hero or heroes are busy with bigger threats and you are just trying to successfully get the job done. Like imagine a mid tier villain forcing a low tier villain to get something done for them, but the whole time they are trying to avoid the higher players in whatever city, and the eyes of the law. Could be quite thrilling when your cast is imperfect and vulnerable and they know it better than others.
    Like Condiment King being forced to steal something for (insert villain here) because no one would think that the thief was the Condiment King ! But while escaping from a sudden hot zone of random Fire fly arson. He had to go into a underground abandoned sewer, only to find out that Lock up is down there with his own super prison, under every ones noses. During this time as he is seeing just who is held captive down here, he comes across a hero like Wild Cat. Now at this point Lock up is coming back to his jail, (because Condiment King, tripped a silent alarm) and as he is trying to out menuever or flee from him he gets lucky enough to find a button to release the Jail Cells. In the chaos Condiment King slips out of the cluster fuck and back up and into the place he was supposed to steal from.
    The rest of the comic is him trying to get this back to his boss and avoid Lockup who has now decided he really wants to get Condiment King, for undoing all his hard work. While Lock up is trying to avoid Wild Cat etc... Until he can get a new place started back up. And in one chaotic climax all the key players in that comic end up colliding at the same location. Does Condiment King somehow survive all of this chaos? Is he Lock Up's new arch? Find out in a exciting 2nd issue!
    P.S. Imagine that kind of set up but trying to survive as a villain in the Flash's city? XD

  • @DWrathborne
    @DWrathborne Před 3 lety +3

    Quick suggestion: I'd be interested in your take on the character of Mantra, the first transgender (sort of) character to star in their own ongoing series. Published back in the 90s by Malibu Comics for their Ultraverse line before Marvel bought them out.

  • @Densetsu13
    @Densetsu13 Před 3 lety +2

    Things I love about you: Fabulous, fellow Canadian, geeky, amazing variety with hair/wigs serving the children lewks, comic book savant, CZcamsr with excellent content merging comic lore with critical thinking and current matters, who also happens to be a woman of colour. Werk. 👏🏾
    Thank you for all the amazing content. Just another comic book lover sending you love from Montreal. 🙂❤️

  • @davidsparham658
    @davidsparham658 Před 3 lety +1

    You didn't mention the Sherlock Holmes issue! That's the best one!

  • @MatthewPrower
    @MatthewPrower Před 6 měsíci

    honestly the most shocking piece of trivia I learned here was that the joker’s past wasn’t gonna be mysterious at first

  • @isabellevt9253
    @isabellevt9253 Před 3 lety +1

    Sustainable long run villain series - Deathstroke's Rebirth run from 2016. I still consider him a villain and a lot of that run was really enjoyable because it explores him being a hero, anti-hero, and villain at different points, and we see the effects of his actions on everyone else (namely, his family). I think the series works because Deathstroke has a code of honor and is connected to many other heroes and villains alike (the Society, Bat fam, Teen Titans, Titans, etc). It's probably different from a Joker solo series because the Joker is full crazy villain and also intrinsically tied to the Bat family at this point - but maybe this 2021 series will prove me wrong.

  • @CosmicPsychonauts
    @CosmicPsychonauts Před 19 dny

    6:39 I like how they wear different shades of purple.

  • @99Michael
    @99Michael Před 3 lety +1

    I know Marvel tried with Doom and Marvel's Super- Villian team up in the late seventies. Perhaps a series following Victor Van Doom's journey as a gypsy youth to a young man entering college.
    The stories could be built around German persecution of the Gypsies ( WWII)
    Doom's learning the mystic arts ( Dr.Strange)
    My favorite Doom the existentialist and his journey down the river of darkness.
    Victor's background pre-FF and Reed Richards is rich in untapped history and narratives.

  • @davidarlington1206
    @davidarlington1206 Před 3 lety +1

    There was a whole bunch of villains carrying their own book in 1978's Secret Society of Super Villains from DC.

  • @scottboswell6406
    @scottboswell6406 Před 3 lety +1

    I had ALL those comics as a kid! They were fun, but you could see The Joker couldn't last as it was. One fun part was, in the letters page, 'Joker' was in charge! He made funny/sarcastic comments, insult the audience, it was good!
    Is there enough material to cover the Secret Society of Super Villains?

  • @JanArrah
    @JanArrah Před 2 lety

    Fun fact: in the 1970s, Wonder Woman's lasso wouldn't be the Golden Lasso of Truth. It was just her Golden Lasso/Magic Lasso. It would only become the Lasso of Truth in comics during the Perez Reboot. It was meant as a limiting of the Magic Lasso's powers and to honor Marston, who was believed to have created the Lie Detector test, but he did not. He merely was playing with the concepts of blood pressure and truth telling at the same time as other people were creating the actual Lie Detector and Marston would go on to be a massive proponent for the device, once created.

  • @fredcampbell4066
    @fredcampbell4066 Před 3 lety +1

    You are correct I never thought I would hear that sentence. I am glad I did. Review them all I enjoy your videos so I will take as much as I can get.

  • @RabbiJoeInJerusalem
    @RabbiJoeInJerusalem Před 3 lety +41

    When I was a kid, I was sure Julie Schwartz was a woman, and was really thrilled at how progressive DC was!

    • @cthulhutheendless1587
      @cthulhutheendless1587 Před 3 lety +1

      This is why Kelly Sue Deconnick uses the “Sue”

    • @Deoxys911
      @Deoxys911 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cthulhutheendless1587 I thought he was just a big Johnny Cash fan.

    • @Madbandit77
      @Madbandit77 Před 3 lety +6

      Jenette Khan, a woman, was the publisher and president of DC Comics from 1976-2002. She doesn't get enough love, IMO.

  • @kforcer
    @kforcer Před 2 měsíci

    Its kinda funny, because the Secret Society of Super Villains comic apparently escaped such restrictions; they had Captain Comet as their requisite recurring good-guy, as well as The Manhunter, but they definitely didn't have the villains beaten at the end of each issue by any stretch. Guess they just had more pull than The Joker, somehow...? Or maybe they just assumed the rules were different for a group of villains versus just one...?

  • @kemmdog4444
    @kemmdog4444 Před 3 lety +1

    I just bought the paperback two weeks ago. Now I need to read the rest first.

  • @androstempest
    @androstempest Před 3 lety +1

    I recall during the norm breyfogle run, villains like the joker were off limits. Relegated to graphic novels, annuals and crossover events. I miss those times when his appearance was an event. Now you see more of the joker than you do some heroes. And I’ll be honest, what they’ve done with him this century has mostly been so dark as to just not be entertaining,
    I prefer my comics less traumatic thanks.

  • @martinmaenza5513
    @martinmaenza5513 Před rokem

    I bought the issues of this Joker series off the newsstand as a kid in the 70’s. I loved this book. So much so I wrote my own Joker stories - in pencil on lined notebook paper. Still have them. My first fan fiction.

  • @productionssnowland
    @productionssnowland Před 3 lety

    DC did a Eclipso ongoing series in the 90s. Essentially, Eclipso kept winning and getting more powerful until a few superheroes banded together to defeat him. The series lasted 18 issues.

  • @ariadnefrolich7243
    @ariadnefrolich7243 Před 3 lety +8

    Damn, Flash and Wonder Woman's deaths are dark and shocking and so, so Joker.

  • @demonpniff
    @demonpniff Před 3 lety +2

    I would be interested in knowing your opinion of the "Joker's Asylum" series, which was narrated by the Joker but did not feature his exploits but was a showcase for stories about other Batman villains. This was also from the 70s, I think.

  • @barneyrubble736
    @barneyrubble736 Před 3 lety +1

    Eggcellent review of the Joker rag. Hope that Egghead gets a comic title some day. Hahahahahaha!!!

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie Před 3 lety +15

    I guess you can say that Joker is that bad he can’t be a solo act, maybe that why he need a very good Punchline now. Lol

    • @galio7741
      @galio7741 Před 3 lety

      Damn Lillie puns strike again

    • @chihiromononoke9381
      @chihiromononoke9381 Před 3 lety

      Julius Schwartz is right. Joker is a lame villain and way overrated. They should use Anarky more.

    • @WarmLillie
      @WarmLillie Před 3 lety

      @@galio7741 “You think that Joker can use pun like these full of jokes for a reason? He the Clown prince of crime for a reason.”
      “I have Harley Quinn brain in me. Not brainwaves, piece, or half or Harley but the whole thing. You can see I’m no numbskull, I’m the Queen around here.”

  • @andyaknoby5007
    @andyaknoby5007 Před 3 lety +1

    I wanna that Super Sons on your shelf!!!

  • @jpboursaw4469
    @jpboursaw4469 Před 3 lety

    Love today’s look. Very on point! Not only does it reference Catwomans style at the beginning of the series, but it’s like Edna Mode, if she only designed costumes for Super-villains! (No wheeps, dah-link. Remember what happened to Punch and Jewlee?)
    I remember this era very well, and it wasn’t as much an experiment as you might think. DC was also publishing Secret Society of Super Villains at the time. And Duella Dent (aka the Jokers Daughter) was a thing happening in Teen Titans. And of course cross -marketing with Mego and Super Friends. So it’s no wonder the look and tone were emulating the average Hostess pie ad. DC was also trying to capture a new audience, as those who were reading from ‘65 to ‘75 were moving on. At least some thought of engagement was made. As evidenced by the advent of the Hyenas, Joker-mobile, and the Ha-hacienda evoking lighthearted fun of a suddenly bygone era. And of course all those fun plots you listed.
    But no wheeps!NO WHEEPS!!!! But imnplied violence and wigs are good, dah-link.

  • @eschnabel.4665
    @eschnabel.4665 Před 3 lety +1

    I loved the 'Charlie Cashew' cameo.

  • @rolandbaldwin
    @rolandbaldwin Před 3 lety

    Lex Luthor in the Action Comics arc The Black Ring is one that I loved. While it wasn't officially a Lex title he was the focus for nearly a year while Superman was on New Krypton. It was bonkers and brilliant.

  • @cha5
    @cha5 Před 3 lety

    9:08 "SPEED KILLS!" Now that's a memorable PSA drug warning, even as a punchline to a joke.

  • @NORMAN728
    @NORMAN728 Před 3 lety +1

    I enjoyed his tales from the crypt like anthology he had.

  • @mark-s
    @mark-s Před 3 lety +1

    I loved the 70s bronze age joker loved the 9 issue run from the mid 70s especially number 9 the cat and the clown wish number 10 was published in the 70s when he took on the whole justice league

  • @larryyearganii8183
    @larryyearganii8183 Před 3 lety

    Couldn't quite make it out but is that one of Hal Jordan's $1 power rings on your finger? Great video once again. Thank you.

  • @shawntrahan5910
    @shawntrahan5910 Před rokem

    My daughter and I sincerely enjoy your videos. She is the one that suggest the “Super Thanks”.

  • @jake51479
    @jake51479 Před 2 lety

    1:07 Wow that guy's brains are getting blown out right on the cover

  • @rockyweird
    @rockyweird Před 3 lety

    I actually found an original copy of the 1st issue of the Joker comics back in the 70's. I thought it was fun reading Joker trying to get ride of Two-Face and see in a silver age fashion how much they could go through Two-face gimmick of 2's in a weird way.
    As for villain comics working as a series that'll be a bit tricky. Usually characters like Joker or Dr. Doom would have a series that last in 12 or less issues. Usually it'll go as a mini-series showing how that they'll never change in the end. The only exception at the moment would be Shredder from IDW's TMNT and his story 'Shredder in Hell'. With their mini-series and regular series connecting and showing characters growing as characters.
    The only comic series I can think of with the villain as the main character would be Irredeemable. It lasted 36 issues (and 1 annual) about a superman like character called Plutonian who becomes the world's greatest villain. It was a dark series written by Mark Waid that I actually enjoyed from start to finish. The series was even called by fans 'The Shattered Silver Age' given how far the series took it's characters.

  • @bryanabbott6169
    @bryanabbott6169 Před 3 lety

    I'm just surprised that the New 52 didn't have ongoing villain books (outside the Sinister Six or whatever), considering they were going more darker tones for their heroes.

  • @kfx71_____87
    @kfx71_____87 Před 3 lety

    Hi Sasha, I have some thoughts on what I think would be a cool version of Joker and how a Joker ongoing title could be successful. I also have a question or perhaps a suggestion...or maybe a plea, lol. I'll tell my Joker idea first though.
    First, I would re-introduce the Joker as much more in line with his first appearance but play up the "mystery" elements. I would craft him to be like some of the characters in the old Rod Serling's Twilight Zone episodes. The ones that introduce themselves as, and appear to be, normal people. But the things they say, knowledge they have and what they are able to accomplish (always off-screen) are so strange and unbelievable that it leads you to wonder if they are what they claim to be. This Joker would definitely appear human and would not actively do anything that would make you think he is anymore than that while on the page but some of his accomplishments and deeds off-panel would be seemingly impossible.
    Also, although I said he seems human, there is an air of sur-realness to him. Something unnatural and disturbing. He is charismatic but terrifying. Darkly humorous one second and deadly serious the next. You want to run away from him but you can't get yourself to look away from him. When other characters speak about him all they have are second hand, unbelievable stories and questions. Many questions. Is he human or is he something supernatural? If he is human why does he look like that? Is he a complete madman or is he an absolute genius?
    I would also make him a more formidable physical opponent as well. Not big and muscular or anything like that, he would still be tall and lanky, but he would be stronger than he looks and deceptively quick. A fight with Batman would show another aspect of how opposite they are. Batman with his training and discipline. Every movement honed to instinctively be as effective as possible. No wasted energy. Efficiency personified. The Joker, a whirlwind of chaos. Constant flailing action. An avalanche of punches, kicks, and novelty tricks. Some props are innocent and meant to distract while others are enhanced to the point of being lethal. He can't match Batman's strength but he seems to come much much closer than you would think he would be able to. He is probably as quick as Batman. Maybe even a fraction of a second faster but it is hard to tell. And there is always a knife. No matter how many times Batman disarms him he always has another knife. Either up his sleeve, in his jacket, somewhere on him there is always another knife.
    Using this version of the Joker I would launch his ongoing title. He would not be the protagonist or the antagonist of the stories though. He would serve as a common thread in an anthology, the string that holds a necklace of beads together. In each issue I would introduce a guest character who will fill the role of the main character for the story. It could be a hero, a villain, a cop, a lawyer, a businessman, or just an average citizen with a 9 to 5 job. He or she would be introduced and their story would begin. Their situation explained and the challenge or task that lies in front of them described. Any other supporting characters brought in as the story plays out.
    Always at some point in the issue though, the main character crosses paths with the Joker. The Joker's motive and how he interacts with the main character can vary greatly depending on who they are and what the nature of the story is. There would really just be three rules. One, no matter when or how long the Joker appears, he must have a huge impact on the plot and the way events play out after his appearance. Two, He must have a profound affect on who he most directly dealt with. It could be a hero considering retirement. A villain leaving town, vowing never to come back. Someone tipped over the edge and driven insane themselves. Or maybe even a successful person seeing their lives crumble around them as everything and everyone they ever loved dies. He could always just kill them too, there is always that possibility. The third and last rule would be that in each issue, no matter what, the Joker never gets caught. He either evades capture, or more preferably, he exits the story of his own free will before the devastating consequences of his involvement come to fruition. That is how I would handle the Joker and an ongoing Joker comic.
    Ok, now if I may, I will make my suggesta-question. Would you be willing to make a video on Batman's one rule to not kill? Also specifically how his rule is handled in The Dark Knight Returns graphic novel? I checked your channel and didn't see one like this but if I missed something and you already talked about it then, oops, sorry.
    The reason why I think this would make an interesting video is that there seems to be two major view points to this topic. One is that, even though Batman started out with a gun and would kill, his rule of never to kill or allow anyone to be killed by his actions or in-action has become such a defining characteristic that if removed Batman would no longer really be Batman. Others say that it actually makes more sense if Batman did kill and they think it enhances the character somehow. I am quite entrenched in the former belief, personally. This split seems to be quite visible when discussing The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller. When I read it I don't see Batman taking the life of anyone at all, not ever. I have seen other people claiming he kills several people throughout the book. The one they almost always mention is when Batman confronts a gang member who is holding a child at gunpoint. They say he shoots the criminal in the head. When I look at that panel I see a bullet hole in the wall next to his head and he is holding the child in the air as if to hand he or she to Batman, but he certainly is not dead. Plus, if he was killing people throughout, wouldn't that make the conversation with the Joker in the tunnel of love almost meaningless and confusing?
    I would love to see you cover this in a video. I have seen others discuss this and I started to go down this "rabbit hole" myself but I got a headache and became confused so I had to come back to the surface. You, on the other hand, are the absolute best when it comes to "rabbit holes". You are like a "rabbit hole" tour guide.
    Just to finish up. I love your channel, your videos are informative, insightful and fun. You yourself are absolutely adorable. Thank you for all the effort you put into your content. Also, thanks for your patience reading all this. You asked for thoughts and I think quite a bit, perhaps too much. If commenting in the future I will try to be more succinct. Thank you, love you and have a great day!
    Ken

  • @rickledford2953
    @rickledford2953 Před 3 lety +1

    I believe, this is the start. of the joker, iconic character.

  • @gspotcyplick
    @gspotcyplick Před 3 lety +1

    It's a a shame that the joker comic book in the 70s was not a success, because I really liked it. Oh well that's life.

  • @TarSpartan
    @TarSpartan Před 3 lety +1

    Elton John was everywhere in the 70s!

    • @teedup8995
      @teedup8995 Před 3 lety +1

      He "himself" appears I n a issue of Spidey Super Stories with Dr Octpus as the villain.

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 Před 3 lety +1

    The series might have succeeded if they'd embraced Joker being a villain protagonist getting away with some evil things he did instead of going "He has to go back to Arkham or nearly die at the end of every issue."

    • @andrewgwilliam4831
      @andrewgwilliam4831 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, that's one of the problems with the Comics Code (and the Hays Code for films).

  • @GabePuratekuta
    @GabePuratekuta Před rokem +1

    It would end with Joker confessing his love to Wonder Woman and she curbstomp his face.

  • @GBglide
    @GBglide Před 3 lety

    0:15 Is that you, "King of the Wicker People"?

  • @logannichols5848
    @logannichols5848 Před 3 lety

    I love to see you alternating hair again.

  • @Bolsonaro_em_Haia
    @Bolsonaro_em_Haia Před 3 lety

    Hi, Sasha. Did you perchance ever make a video about the original Secret Society of Supervillains? It was such an oddball title. To this day I have a hard time deciding what the premise was. And it sort-of-crossed into and out of the search for Jean Loring in Super Team Family as well. Somehow that impressed me.

  • @kelpymckelps
    @kelpymckelps Před 3 lety

    Thanks again for another interesting video!!

  • @teedup8995
    @teedup8995 Před 3 lety

    There was "Secret Society of Super Villains" also at DC were Joker never appeared but was the top winner in the who would you like to see in this series.

  • @ariellakahan-harth8831

    Lou Cipher gave me a second-long, spontaneous flashback to watching ROCKETMAN for the first time.

  • @wyrdhunter
    @wyrdhunter Před 3 lety

    Villains who are long term planners like Doom or Darkseid can carry a solo series as a villain (especially Doom) but wacky, nerfed, psychopaths not so much.
    Unrelated, that wig, makeup, and outfit combo are rocking. One of your best looks ever, imho.

  • @davidmelon9409
    @davidmelon9409 Před rokem

    The Italian comic book "Diabolik" has been running strong since the 1960s, and it's about a thief who is a knife-wielding killer and impersonator.
    So yeah, It can work.

  • @EstrafaDC
    @EstrafaDC Před 3 lety

    Have you done a video on The Creeper yet? I remember him and always thought he was a bizarre character from the '70s.

  • @laragallahue7127
    @laragallahue7127 Před 3 lety +2

    Honestly I’m surprised this was brozen age instead of sliver age Joker. I do enjoy these comics they are just fun

  • @moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115

    BTW, I'm loving The Joker fingernails, Sasha! 🥰💅🏾 Although, I would put The Joker on your left side and Batman on your right side. That way, it is a social commentary and you can make them look like they're fighting when you're bored. 🤡🦇😁

  • @korablina8310
    @korablina8310 Před 3 lety

    A little off top
    Sasha, are you planning to bless us with quick history of white Vision? Or something on the topic of West Coast Avengers?

  • @alexwimberly1268
    @alexwimberly1268 Před 3 lety +3

    Even in the silver/bronze age, the Joker was super edgy and got to kill everyone at one point. Jeez

  • @flashfrozen64
    @flashfrozen64 Před 3 lety

    Oh Sasha, we love your choice of video topics... please kindly take my like and gratitude 🙏

  • @BigGiantMonster
    @BigGiantMonster Před rokem

    Marvel did a Super Villain Team Up as an ongoing series. I think it was Dr. Doom And...Whoever. I remember one issue he fought Red Skull on the moon.

  • @alexnejako777
    @alexnejako777 Před rokem

    He was really big right in the early 70s with multiple toys out there.

  • @kevinkruger1686
    @kevinkruger1686 Před 3 lety +1

    The one villain comic i enjoyed was Rune from Malibu Comics it was great until Marvel bought out Malibu & ruined the book.

  • @TimothyMReynolds
    @TimothyMReynolds Před 3 lety

    Love your channel 🖖

  • @generalmortars7557
    @generalmortars7557 Před 3 lety +1

    Killing WW by choking her with her own lasso in this way contradicts the fact that she's kinda really-really superstrong and it would do exactly NOTHING to her, but then again writers forgetting that Diana is more than just a girl in a sexy costume is par for the course by now.
    Heck, there is an actual comic where Batman realizes WW has superstrength/durability and to take her out he. Punches. Her. In. The. Chest. It's the same comic where he also has quicker reflexes than the Flash, so....

  • @DrPluton
    @DrPluton Před 3 lety +12

    I’ve never really cared for the Joker other than Caesar Romero.

    • @JamesLawner
      @JamesLawner Před 3 lety +1

      Mark Hamill erasure will not be tolerated!

  • @TheVetoSkreeemer
    @TheVetoSkreeemer Před 3 lety +1

    Series focusing on villains have worked. Grendel and Tomb of Dracula are good examples of this.

  • @f12mnb
    @f12mnb Před 3 lety

    The recent Jokerenaissance can be traced to Heath Ledger's performance in The Dark Knight and Jack Nicholson's version in Batman. Just like the earlier comic book was inspired by the Cesar Romero version.
    Great line Sasha - "But it's a job..." explains 99% of what goes on in comics!

    • @cha5
      @cha5 Před 3 lety

      And Mark Hamill's version of the Joker going all the way back to BTAS in the 1990's.

  • @jameljenks2584
    @jameljenks2584 Před 3 lety +1

    Deathstroke had a few runs. The most recent one that covered him and his kids was pretty good

  • @angryspork610
    @angryspork610 Před 3 lety

    Some characters aren't able to sustain their own ongoing solo titles because they're better as part of a team (like most of the X-Men). In Joker's case, I think the problem is that there's only so many times he can have a scheme foiled or come at odds with a villain before the concept becomes stale. You could have him succeed in his plans every now and again, but that's gonna get pretty dark pretty quick, and not everyone's going to be on board. Some like the "deadly showman" as opposed to "deranged killer that barely laughs and looks like a clown". While I only read one or two issues of the first Harley Quinn ongoing, I think she's more sustainable because she wasn't quite as bad as her then-beau, so she could be a villain, but with some positive traits.
    Joker works as someone to pop up every no and again, pump laughing gas into the taping of a telethon or joker-ize an army of irate gerbils, get captured, then sit in Arkham to plan his next scheme. In the meantime, Two-Face, Riddler, Mad Hatter, or Condiment King can try something to keep Batman busy. I mean, the gut reaction to the idea of a version of Batman TAS where *every* episode had the Joker might be to shriek with joy, but in execution, it'd be a different matter, and the luster would wear off quickly.
    I'm not saying it couldn't be done effectively, but it'd be tricky, and have to be very precise to last more than a couple issues.
    As to the current series? It's written by Tynion, so it already has my seal of disapproval on it.