BEST BATMAN VILLAIN COMIC? | Clayface | The Mud-Pack
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- Batman must face all the Clayfaces in his rogues gallery at once (the ones that existed at the time). Basil Karlo, Matt Hagen (sorta) Preston Payne and Sondra Fuller a.k.a Lady Clay. What dastardly plans does this Mud-pack have for the caped crusader. DC Comics retells all their secret origins for this epic tale that sees Batman team up with former Outsider Looker. The dark knight has to face his inner demons such as the loss of Jason Todd and more. Discover all the madness here on Casually Comics!
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Missed opportunity: A world of pure Claymation.
All we need now is for Lois to marry Clayface. The merging of two playlists.
"Superman, help me! The man I married turned out to be a clay monster disguised as a handsome man!"
DC needs to put Sasha in charge of the "Lois Lane Marries the DC Universe" trade.
You would have been a great silver age writer. YOU’RE HIRED!
If marrying the devil and various obsessive aliens didn't faze her then marrying a shapeshifting clay monster won't.
@@jayinsult Forget Deadpool or Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe. Lois Lane Marries the DC Universe is the next big hit comic.
I picture Lois acting like Stella from the BTAS episode Mudslide if she met Clayface. Karlo constantly calling Hagen by his full name Matthew reminds me of Stella doing that in the episode.
"And since he's not a scientist ..."
Cue the Homer GIF of him saying "Batman's a scientist!"
All the world's a stage/ And all the men and women merely Clayers...
👏
And a man in his time plays many clays.
@@nooctip 👍
I remember reading this like 30 years ago, revisiting it a few times since, and always thinking it was relatively stand out at the time. Really good example as to how a good Batman story doesn't have to have the Joker, destroy Gotham or have world level consequences.
Yeah keeping it simple sometimes works so much better than some bombastic events
Awaqwwwwwwa waw
That deadpan reading of "I have no head. Oh man. What a day" warmed my soul.
I did not know that the Clayface saga would have this many episodes, but i am thrilled to continue this journey
Its like clayface has many faces...
Just wait. There are 8 comic book Clayfaces and one separate animated version from The Batman.
@@bsabruzzo Actually 11 comics and 1 animated series.
List of All Clayface:
1. Basil Karlo (Gold Age) aka. Ultimate Clayface
2. Matt Hagen (Silver Age)
3. Preston Payne (Bronze Age)
4. Sondra Fuller aka. Lady Clay
5. Cassius "Clay" Payne: Son of Presto Payne and Sondra Fuller.
6. Peter Malley aka. Claything
7. Todd Russell
8. Ethan Bennett (animated "The Batman")
9. Clayface of Japan
10. Glory Griffin aka. Mudface: Girlfriend of Basil Karlo.
11. Clownface
12. Johnny Williams (Current)
8? I only know of 6.
@@matthewschwartz6607 I don't know if any of these had more than a one-shot or a couple of panels, but these are all the named Clayfaces (I just cut and pasted the comment I put on the Lady Clayface video):
Clayface checklist
1) Boris Karlo - check
2) Matt Hagen - check
3) Preston Payne - check
4) Sondra Fuller - check
5) Cassius "Clay" Payne - ?
6) Dr. Peter "Claything" Malley
7) Todd Russell
8) Johnny Williams
9) Ethan Bennett (from the cartoon "The Batman)
I'm surprised there wasn't a Golden Age story where Clayface impersonates a Pulitzer Prize in Journalism and winds up marrying Lois Lane...
A world of pure imagiclaytion
It’s stop motion
12 Clayfaces...they defy...explanationnn.
But the actual explanation is retconning, lot's of retcons and retellings :)
Every Clay shall have it's day
I'd give my entire relief check to a spa named the Mudpack Spa, stay overnight and expel all of those toxins into warm mud. Yup. Claymagination totally works.
Looker's outfit has Flo Jo energy, but what if it was just absolutely gaudy.
This is pure speculation on my part, but Looker's outfit was probably inspired by another Batman-related cultural moment, the Oscar gown worn by Kim Basinger in 1990 (whose career was red-hot after her role in Batman in 1989), assets.vogue.com/photos/5c70187177656d2dead57628/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/02-controversial-oscars.jpg
Whoops, I just googled it, and Looker's costume debuted years earlier, in 1986. So maybe Looker inspired Kim Basinger?
Sasha changes her appearance so often she must be a clay face!!!
And the correlation between the brown / beige colors in today's hair and outfit pairing and the subject character totally gives it away.
@@scottsmartky Not the newest. ALL of them. All in her quest to marry Lois Lane.
"Revenge is a dish best served as melodramatically as possible"
Absolutely accurate
Can't wait for the next episode of Claysually Comics
12:27 Ghost Jason apparently broke Batman's neck with his aggressive pointing.
Clayface I origin: pro, Batman's face is never quite seen, lending weight to his ominous presence!
Con, Robin's face is constantly seen, and it is nightmarish because Batman hired a dwarf acrobat to sub in for Robin during an illness or something...
Preston is clearly the most interesting Clay-Face
Why don't we see him more
I bet we would if he had any other name. Clayface is so associated with shape changing and that clay look at this point, that Preston's toxic touch and exosuit gets overshadowed. But if he had a villain name of his own, he could have more of an independent identity and be explored more. I'd go with something like Wither or Entropy or something like that.
He's dead, canonically! To my knowledge they've never revived him. Here's where my memory gets fuzzy, but basically someone or other put a bomb in him and, uhh. He went boom.
Are sure? Btas Matt is a good one.
HOLY MOLY I just looked it up and there’s actually 8 DIFFERENT CLAYFACES!
Actually there are 12 clayfaces.
List of All Clayface:
1. Basil Karlo (Gold Age) aka. Ultimate Clayface
2. Matt Hagen (Silver Age)
3. Preston Payne (Bronze Age) aka. Clayface
4. Sondra Fuller aka. Lady Clay
5. Cassius "Clay" Payne: Son of Presto Payne and Sondra Fuller.
6. Peter Malley aka. Claything
7. Todd Russell
8. Ethan Bennett (animated "The Batman")
9. Clayface of Japan
10. Glory Griffin aka. Mudface: Girlfriend of Basil Karlo.
11. Johnny Williams (Current)
I honestly want you to talk about the Clayface of the DCAU and Annie and also the ones in The Batman cartoon.
Let’s see how deep this mud pit goes.
We can always count on The Lillie to make great puns
@@galio7741 Aww, Thxs.
"...Clark can hear you...". Yup.
Norm Breyfogle to this day one of the best artists to pencil the BatMan stories!
The only thing that could have made this better (except a Lois Lane cameo), would have been a Geo Force cameo! Imagine the Mudpack trying to drive him crazy “like his sister Terra”. Ultimate Clayface, meet ultimate angst.
Batman's epiphanies are a slow burn, generally, and rarely if ever does he snap out of it.
Alan Grant was a truly brilliant Batman writer. I may be wrong, but I feel like he created more of the regular rogues gallery than anyone since 1940. Also, when I couldn't find #1 of the four part Anarky miniseries, he sent me a copy. Utter gent!
Favorite Sasha quote: "You ok bro?" (That face. lol)
Karloff seems hilarious in this comic. Very Muhahaha, which I am all for. Because it is funny.
Crazy Preston was good too. I like how he gets so worked up about something that is all in his mind.
The best part of this channel, EASILY, is Sasha's Batman voice. It's my new head cannon for his official voice. Sorry Kevin Conroy...
Have you heard her impression of Comet, the Super Horse?
Mudpack is a fun story and it surprises me that it took until the 90's for someone to come up with the idea of a Clayface team up.
I had some of the issues. It got me back into DC after the Post Crisis hijinks put me off DC.
I’m here for a world of clay imagination lmao.
That first death. Digging the drama
I was watching this CZcams and then I realized it was just snow on a 1980's TV set with no signal.
'I've been to paradise but I've never been to me'. Lady Clay
When I was a kid I had issues 1 and 3 of this 4-parter and now, finally, I know the whole scoop! Three cheers for Sasha!
Yeah, you can get them really cheap in the back issue bins.
I am enjoying the Clayface series. As much as I enjoy the DCAU Matt Hagan Clayface, Preston is my favorite comic incarnation. Preston gives me weird Patrick Bateman vibes with his inability to firmly stay rooted in actual reality. Shondra really was a blessing to him. Your Batman voice would be awesome on a voicemail recording.
Also love the appropriate light brown / mocca wearing for this Clayface video.
YES! I was hoping you were building up to the Mud Pack story arc! This is one of my favorite Batman stories.
rofl I was looking away for a moment at the colorbars, so all I hear is, "Do you even know who mud pack is? BLEEEEEEP" and I was like damn girl gettin' salty, who are you cursing at? Oh, no, wait, it's the tone over color bars. Not censoring a long string of expletives.
"Claylist - No, I will not stop calling it that"
Finally a comic channel that focused on my favorite Batman villains
"I'm a sap. A puddle...of mud (everything so blurry)." Your references always make me laugh.
"I'm a puddle... of mud ... everything's so blurry" THANK YOU FOR THAT
The coordination! The hair, the sweater, the colors! Work it Sasha 👏
"Puddle of mud." "Everything's so blurry."
I understood that reference!
The muuud pack is a little ol place where we can get together...mud pack baybee
Looker was always a character that I appreciated, although I think her becoming a vampirewas a bit overkill
1:14 man those covers are giving me flashbacks. I remember reading them from my step dad's collection of Batman comics. I haven't read em since 1999 though
I like the claylist.
The birth of Clayface 5: A day at the spa. This time it is gritty. Maybe an alien organism invades a spa and one person in particular absorbs the clay-based organism and becomes a gestalt creature that multiplies and it takes the remaining Mud Pack to defeat it.
Sasha's wig, lipstick, and outfit gets me in the mood for dark and milk chocolate.
I'm so glad you are covering this. I'm usually not familiar with your topics, but this was one of the first series of comics I read as a collector, and it was memorable. :-)
Looker's costume can only be a David Bowie reject from the Ziggy/Aladdin Sane period.
As styled by Dazzler.
Oh boy I haven't been this excited for Clayface materials since the last video! Loving this coverage of our favorite tragic villian!
I enjoyed how much you enjoyed it. It was easy to tell how much you liked this story and no story is perfect. We're all human afterall.
No one in the comments seems to be calling out Sasha's Puddle of Mudd "Blurry" reference. I just want her to know it didn't go unnoticed! Good work, Queen!
1:25 -- Batman looks so skeeved to have the Atom standing on his shoulder. (And/or being placed over the Golden Age Red Tornado and his bucket head mask.) (Note to Sasha, an idea for an episode...!)
Golden Age (Bucket Head) Red Tornado was a woman!! And should be the subject for a CC video one day!!
I read this Mudpack story as a kid. This video inspired me to rebuy those issues on Comixology, along with the Secret Origins. Thanks, Sasha!
Mud Club. sounds like a subscription service from a Spa. i like it.
I'm loving these Bat-Clay videos or a Clay Bat
The Mud-Pack is like the DC version of Doctor Who specials where the Doctor meets himself.
Honestly I’m super stoked you made this video on mud pack
Your sense of humor keeps me chuckling throughout your videos. It was funny and interesting to journey through this story from someone else's perspective
I really like a lot of the old comics you cover on your channel. While I have been primarily a Marvel reader my whole life you make me want to pick up some of the old DC comics. My family used to have some old Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes comics from the 60s with characters like Bouncing Boy and Matter Eater Lad - these may be up your alley.
I love Looker's costume. I love even more that back when she debuted there was an interview in either DC promo material or in the letters page of one of the various Outsiders comics where Jim Aparo said he designed her costume with "high fashion" in mind. I was only like ten when Looker debuted, but trust me mid-80's... that was not high fashion. I rolled my eyes so hard in the car on the way home from the comic shop we nearly went off the road.
I started collecting batman and detective just a few storylines earlier.. I bought these new..and I still have them.. and batman is the only main character I still collect till the time of this recording. Love it..
“OH MY GOD!!! It’s Clayface TWO!!! Help me, Batman One!”
It's incredible that every time superman "comes" it doesn't shred whoever he's with.
If he doesn't concentrate, he breaks door. He must not move at all during the act.
....... Imagine him as head pusher. 💀
Were Hagen and Batman ever friends or allies, or were they always enemies ? Batman and Payne didn’t seem to be all that adversarial , and we later saw Karlo become part of the Bat-family. But what about the relationship between Hagen and Batman?
this was the first comic I read in my life!! I watched the video and I remembered it! I have tottally forgotten about it!! It was like 30 years ago, I was like 8... much before I started reading comics regullary during my 20s...
I remember reading it in Spanish, as I didn't know Enlgish back then... My granma bought me this volume with 4 issues of this story (never read how it ended!) and a volume of Captain Atom with the first 4 issues of the post crisis relaunch! so nostalgic...
I still suffer from the trauma... you know,, for me Batman was Alan West Batman and 70s cartoons with batmite... the darker version I knew was Michael Keaton 90s batman movie... I was totally shocked... and of course LOVED IT!
Adam West, you mean?
@@matthewschwartz6607 that is what happens when you comment while doing ten things at a time XD
I have all four issues of this I read a couple parts of the story from a random collection of comics than at my comic shop in Kamloops that sells older issues I manage to find the complete story and finally finish it after years and years wondering you did this story justice and I love it
Mud pack? Clay list? Yep I'm here for it all! I am enjoying this look at all the clay faces.
Splud. I need to use this somewhere this week. Splud.
Look at the effor on the clothing and make up, even Sasha's eye shadow is clay themed
Karlo reminds me of Vincent Prices character in "theatre of blood " . Fun film . . And the writers had a lot of fun with that mud pack 4-parter . .
I used to have all 4 issues and the secret origin one when I was a kid. Thanks for bringing back the memories
It was a contnuity problem. At the time Looker had been depowered and didn't get her powers back until they revived the Outsiders book a year or two later.
I bought the first 2 parts of the story when they came out, but missed getting the last 2 parts. I didn't know who Looker or Lady Clayface were, so I was a little confused about what was going on in part 1, and that's probably why I didn't bother buying all 4 parts. About 15 years ago, I came across part 4 and picked it up. Late last year, I was visiting some comic shops with a friend to whom I had mentioned I owned just 3 parts of the story. He found me the missing part and made me buy it, completing the story. Seeing your video on this prompted me to finally read the entire story and it was better than I'd originally thought, and portrayed Batman with some qualities I wish they'd emphasize more in the modern books, like competence and compassion.
I only knew of one clayface. This slurry of a mudpack is crazy in a fun way.
I love the voice you give Matt. I dunno why, but I love it
I remember when this storyline was coming out the solicits played it up pretty good as a big storyline, but my memory could be off. Of course this was back when four issue stories were the exception instead of too short like today's five or six issue storylines to write for the trade.
could mr freeze by way of his freeze ray prevent clayfaces from dissolving or falling appear or disappearing?
This is what I love about your channel: you take things that get a one line mention on Wikipedia and you actually give an in-depth explanation. I'd heard of the Mud Pack before, but now that you've explained it all I can actually appreciate it a bit more. For someone like myself who's never going to be able to read all of the comics I'd like to, this channel is a God-send.
That was one of the most clever ways to reference a song I’ve ever heard
Basil Karlo is hammy as hell here, and I love it! XD
Preston Payne was a young man with genetic problems that made him look like a monster in the eyes of others. Fed up with society and willing to prove that he was better than the others, he managed to become an actor in Hollywood under the pseudonym Basil Karlo.
People called him Clayface because Preston (now Basil) used masks for his movies, perfect and highly detailed masks that almost looked real. Those masks served to hide his deformity, which caused him physical and emotional pain and allowed him to be someone different, someone powerful (or so he believed ...).
However, his incredible acting career ended up falling into the void with the passage of time and his performances were increasingly artificial and lacking in soul. Besides that no woman wanted to date him, which increased his insecurities and internal anger.
One day Hollywood decided to make a movie about Preston's life but he would not be the main actor, it will be someone handsome (like Geroge, Tom or Brad). Preston (Basil) furious and mad with pain decides to commit various criminal acts (kidnapping, torture and murder). However he was stopped by Batman and Robin (Dick Grayson).
During the escape Preston (Basil) fell into a mysterious cave and submerged himself in a mysterious liquid that gave him the power to be a man of clay. Changing his identity to Matt Hagen's, he decided to start a criminal career as the infamous villain Clayface.
I'm as happy as pig in mud for series bravo! This i why I love this channel, keep up the great work, thank you.
Sasha you look so professional in today’s video! Like a BOSS!
I Love how the outfit/wig matches the aesthetic of the video. 10/10
4:30 Clayface III only imagining the images on his TV puts a new light on this burn - "We'll be back after these messages with the story of a *real* super-villain -- *The Kite-Man* !"
8:28 "The addition of plain, simple *tap water* will replace all the organic constituents necessary for you to *live again* ..." What's *in* Gotham's tap water?!
My goodness! Sasha goes "Chatty Cathy!" Better living through editing!
Thanks for this video, Sasha. I bought all the Mud Pack issues when they were first released, but I didn't remember a thing about it.
I think I enjoyed your retelling more than the actual story.
Of course Batman said Lois was Beautiful. He _knows_ Clark can hear him.
Now THIS was the retrospective I needed.
Your vids are perfect. I get comic info, funny voice overs, pretty face, and a ton of insight. You are great.
So happy to see this story get the coverage it deserves, I grew up with it and it was one of the first stories I collected fully when I got serious about comics again
1989 is when I started collecting comics. Marvel only at first. I think I saw that first batman cover from a guy in high school ( who called himself batman).
I own this comic. As I said before I have an ARKHAM ASYLUM collection that has a volume dedicated to each Batman villain. One of them being Clayface. And, at the end of that book, there´s this story. I found it very fun to read.
Wonder Woman, originally made of clay. Clayman's clay?! 🤯🥴
"Le quoi?"
Thank you for the whims
the added gun effects lmao!
Re-examining Basil Karlo's original characterization made me realize a lot of Kane, Finger and Fox original run Batman Characters appear to be based on a fusion of Gothic style Swashbucklers, Detectives, Deformities and Monsters. Several of Batman's first adventures involved him solving Sherlockian criminal schemes by gangsters, thieves, scientists and opportunists such as those of Doctor Death, Carl Kruger or Calendar Man. After Robin came along there was a shift to more swashbuckler style criminals from pirates like Tiger Shark, to robbers like Cavalier, to burglars like the 3 Devils. Then when Bob Kane wanted to adapt Gwynplaine from The Man who Laughs, we got the Joker and his success brought deformities like Jekyll and Hyde based Two Face and Phantom of the Opera based Clayface who presented us with more psychological and thriller elements. Then as the Comic Book industry shifted to the more fantastic we got monster based criminals like Killer Croc and the Monk.
Last but not least: Basil Karlo just became Negaduck in my new headcanon.