Porsche Cayman Generations (987,981,718) compared - Which is best? | Everyday Driver TV S4

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  • The three generations of the mid-engined Porsche Cayman are often overlooked because of the legendary 911, but they offer better prices and a more balanced chassis. Join Todd and Paul as they drive the 987 Cayman R, 981 Cayman GTS, and 718 Cayman GTS, tracing the good and bad changes along the way.
    00:00 - 0:50 Intro
    0:50 - 4:53 Styling
    4:53 - 11:42 Performance
    11:42 - 16:15 Handling
    16:15 - Conclusions
    This episode from Season 4 first Premiered on MotorTrend cable channel in February of 2019.
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Komentáře • 974

  • @dadhats
    @dadhats Před 3 lety +287

    stop telling people that the 718 isnt a bad car!! I want to pick up a used one thats depreciated as hell :))

    • @senecamcmillian
      @senecamcmillian Před 10 měsíci +2

      😂😂😂

    • @uno1industries
      @uno1industries Před 9 měsíci +10

      Seriously 😭 My first choice RS3s are already crazy expensive. Let’s keep the 718 affordable.

    • @NathanNicholson-mh1zj
      @NathanNicholson-mh1zj Před 8 měsíci +2

      SAME

    • @adamjohari
      @adamjohari Před 6 měsíci +2

      Waiting for it to depreciate as well. The road tax on it is cheap where I am since the road tax is based on CC.

    • @Malcom2345
      @Malcom2345 Před 5 měsíci

      The T4 is the best car Porsche has ever made and the motor is the best motor that suits this car best.

  • @alexanderthyrrestrup6184
    @alexanderthyrrestrup6184 Před 3 lety +335

    I love that you don't ruin the sound from the cars by putting lots of music over like so many others

  • @user-lh1iv9js8x
    @user-lh1iv9js8x Před rokem +35

    As a teenager in the mid 70s I remember reading a review of the then new 930 turbo, the content and photos of which sparked a life-long desire to own a Porsche. In the mid 80s a Porsche franchise opened in the village where I lived, and with a lot of luck, I started delivering and collecting its customers' cars at weekends - 944s, 911s, 928s, and an exquisite orange 912, which was for sale at £10,000 - hindsight!. My Porsche driving days ended all to soon when I moved on in my full-time job, returning my Porsche experiences to magazines and tv car shows. But my desire to own didn’t diminish, and on my recent retirement I finally got my own set of keys, to a manual Cayman 987.2, something very similar in size and pace to the early 911s, delivering an intoxicating surge of induction and pace as the flat 6 races to the red line. The cost of the air-cooled cars may have escaped me, but the best Porsche is the one you can afford - and that’s my Cayman!

    • @iguana4751
      @iguana4751 Před měsícem +1

      987.2 is a great affordable car. I never regretted buying a 987.2 Boxter.

    • @MK-su6eg
      @MK-su6eg Před 11 dny

      Nice! Similar story, teenage mid 70s, and a love of Porsche cars,and some day a owner, flash forward retired 2016 and 2019 got a nice 2006 boxster s. Aloha from Hawaii!

  • @rennwolfwolfgangkriegl
    @rennwolfwolfgangkriegl Před 3 lety +266

    I am happy to have a 987 Cayman S in my collection. And it has a manual transmission. I love it to bits! 😀

    • @echotwo5813
      @echotwo5813 Před 3 lety +10

      Same here, got the 987 Boxster S

    • @Gnrnrvids
      @Gnrnrvids Před 3 lety +16

      Same. I've had mine about 2 months now and it has single handedly ruined driving any of my other cars. The manual is absolutely divine.

    • @theamaturegolfer7798
      @theamaturegolfer7798 Před 3 lety +10

      Me too. I have a cayman R. 987. Stick. My wife has the 718, the cayman R is quicker, better handling & manual. It’s a lighter gearbox, plus there is no electrical nonsense like voice control. Everything stripped for weight. It’s a racing machine. Quicker than the stock 911 carerra

    • @charleslu7044
      @charleslu7044 Před 3 lety +8

      Echo Two, I traded my 05 Boxster S for a 981Spyder and I miss my old Porsche more than I thought I would. What they say about older and newer Porsches is true, “It’s a better car but a worse Porsche”.

    • @theamaturegolfer7798
      @theamaturegolfer7798 Před 3 lety

      Charles Lu absolutely correct. It’s a proper drive the 987 it’s manual not an automatic for starters. no fancy voice control or gadgets. More fun to drive the 987 but as you say the 718 is the better car.

  • @budtcheez
    @budtcheez Před 3 lety +69

    2 year owner of a 718 GTS. Love the performance on the street and as best in class. 2.5L, PDK, dual clutch is a thing of beauty.

    • @realkingrav2265
      @realkingrav2265 Před 2 lety +3

      Does this car get a lot of attention on the road?

    • @lolowong439
      @lolowong439 Před rokem +6

      @@realkingrav2265 a hell lot I would say.

    • @asigameryt9422
      @asigameryt9422 Před 23 dny

      Its. A Porsche ofc It does​@@realkingrav2265

    • @fredericberthou
      @fredericberthou Před 11 dny

      Non c’est mauvais et le son est mauvais

    • @asigameryt9422
      @asigameryt9422 Před 11 dny

      @@realkingrav2265 it is a Porsche ofc It does

  • @dsilvap
    @dsilvap Před 3 lety +163

    My favorite gen is the 981, I love the looks, the sound, the options you could choose.

    • @movieclipz5034
      @movieclipz5034 Před 3 lety +24

      By far the best looking of the 3

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 Před 3 lety +11

      yea definitely the best sounding one by far. The noise is intoxicating. Better sounding than any 991 generation 911s that isn't a GT3 or GT3RS (the 991.1 GTS also sounds very good but 981 GTS still takes it imo, it just sounds so much closer to your head and ears, just absolutely blasting the noise into your ears)

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 Před 3 lety +4

      @@movieclipz5034 987 has the engine noise but missing that post 2012 exhaust work that all german sports cars focused more on starting around that era,
      718 tries very hard to make it up with the exhaust but it only got so much attractive engine noise to work with (I personally still think it sounds quite ugly...)
      981 is perfect in that regard.

    • @MAXREVS
      @MAXREVS Před 3 lety

      Diego SP The man who designed the Cayman, Pinky Lai, calls out the 987 as the one that will go down in the history books. They’re all great cars, however there can only be one first. Listen to his quote here - czcams.com/video/5qt2J12aUJs/video.html

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 Před 3 lety +1

      981 does have the best looking front end but that fugly rear tho...

  • @gagangill5520
    @gagangill5520 Před 3 lety +135

    Just purchased my first Porsche yesterday after years of BMW M Cars. I am happy to announce it is a 981 GTS!! And I think it's a better drive than the M4 GTS I'm getting out of. Watching this just made me forget what buyer's remorse means!

    • @sixpotshot
      @sixpotshot Před 3 lety +5

      You got it right buddy

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 Před 3 lety +5

      There used to be some overlap, where people crosshopped m3:s and porsches, but that was another era. Now, just get a porsche and forget about bmw. The 1m, sure, but that was also years ago and its not like CSL vs 911 of those days anyway. And im saying this as a lifelong bmw fan, gave up about 10 years ago.

    • @robertscarano4205
      @robertscarano4205 Před 3 lety +5

      I picked up my 981 GTS back in December to replace my ATS-V (which replaced my M235i). You chose wisely and made a great decision!

    • @gagangill5520
      @gagangill5520 Před 3 lety +1

      @@fredriksvard2603 I agree, and I got into this F80 generation hoping to get some of that back, but when I test drive this 981, I knew it was something special. NA engines are amazing, but the gas milage on them are 😬

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 Před 3 lety +4

      Gagan Gill i kinda realized this with a cayman in, hmm, might have been 2012-13 or so. Lost track of bmw after e92 and 1m, im sure m2 is good but 1) bmw has nothing to compete with current new p cars, and there are no real successors to e30, e36, and 2) there are such good options for used porsches, like older caymans/gt4 and996/997 c2 and turbo. GT3/2/rs i always thought were beyond bmw, you dont crosshop those and m cars really. Porsche still makes some somewhat lightweight track focused cars, bmw were still in that game up until e46 (csl) platform. Now i dont see how they differ from mercedes and audi really (and lets not get into how those brands stepped up in racing and with the r8 and gtr models).

  • @LsnakeM
    @LsnakeM Před 3 lety +34

    I bought a 987 Cayman S this year and i love it!

  • @sergeantsqueaker
    @sergeantsqueaker Před 3 lety +59

    Great video as ever. Nice to see a comparison of these. Personally I think Porsche got it right straight out of the box. 987 for me. And BTW those roads you're on are amazing!

  • @hchaves27
    @hchaves27 Před 3 lety +156

    Gts 4.0 is what you needed here for a true comparison

    • @tamasszabo8824
      @tamasszabo8824 Před 3 lety +4

      Very true.

    • @Meatwad650
      @Meatwad650 Před 3 lety +3

      Sure. It would also sound the worst.

    • @drewmorg.
      @drewmorg. Před 3 lety +6

      @@Meatwad650 No one really ever comments on the 4.0 GTS sound in their review videos, I wonder why!!

    • @Meatwad650
      @Meatwad650 Před 3 lety +2

      @@drewmorg. I know, right? They might be forced to admit it wasn't all about the number of cylinders...

    • @mikedodd9294
      @mikedodd9294 Před 3 lety +2

      from the criteria they used to pick the 987 I do think the 4.0 GTS would win. Looking forward to more of these Cayman reviews in the future. 2024's electric Cayman has to be included with that 4.0 GTS! You just can't go wrong with any of these cars.

  • @RuTube981
    @RuTube981 Před 3 lety +9

    I have a 981 Cayman S manual that I hunted for after I saw your video from 2012 about how amazing a used cayman S was. No regret. Best car ever. Thank you so much!

  • @TommyWalls007
    @TommyWalls007 Před 3 lety +16

    I've got a 981 GTS. The sound totally consumes you at higher RPM. Even at low RPM, the growl and bangs always keep a smile on your face.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry Před 3 lety

      2.5k RPM...it gargles. Mmmmmmmm.

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb Před 2 lety +1

      Lows revs sounds like someone slurping the end of thier milkshake with a straw

  • @JordanDietz
    @JordanDietz Před 3 lety +126

    "Show me an angle that isn't delicious." Now that's Tshirt material!

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL Před 3 lety +1

      You beat me to saying that....

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 Před 3 lety

      well, 981 doesn't really have the prettiest rear. 791 is an improvement but still, I feel like it could do better. I also hate the centre exhaust. It makes the car look cheap and ruins the esthetic. Thank god they split up the exhaust for the 2021 GTS model.

    • @seivaDsugnA
      @seivaDsugnA Před 3 lety

      @@jankay8569 981 has the perfect rear. It's in the back.

  • @DaGrybo
    @DaGrybo Před 3 lety +31

    I remember watching your black Cayman review before buying my first Cayman. Now I'm on the 987.2S in manual, and everything spoken in this review is right. You feel the steering wheel column connected to the wheels through your hands, the 987 hydraulic rack gives you a ton of feedback, especially when it gets serious with the front wheels, it will brake your hands if you have the wrong accident. That's where the magic with the Cayman happens, because the car sits on the road in a very refined way. It has enough mass to feel respectable and safe. Then you step on it and in the curve the car feels responsive, lively, short - like a backpack. This wheelbase, the proportion and the simple suspension setup, not too wide 265 tires, all make it just the right experience, it's quite astounding because when you understand it you see how this is the perfect formula for a drivers car. Damping in my S is just right for me to daily it with pleasure. And then with a blip of the gas pedal you have a motorbike like experience. It's not only the power, it's the sound, the way the suspension flexes, the vibration. It's one of the true great sports cars of all time.

  • @oliverm.gilbert9639
    @oliverm.gilbert9639 Před 3 lety +27

    So glad I just bought 987 cayman what a beauty of a car!

  • @y0ungj0m
    @y0ungj0m Před 3 lety +1

    As you already know, love you guys' videos to bits. Amazing scenery, information and of course entertaining.

  • @movieclipz5034
    @movieclipz5034 Před 3 lety +13

    I'll watch each and every video you make on Caymans, especially the 981

  • @Momo_8k
    @Momo_8k Před 3 lety +9

    It's like you gentlemen knew I have spent my entire week looking at 981 and 718 Caymans 👍

  • @alfonso87ful
    @alfonso87ful Před 3 lety +4

    Just bought an old boxter s. Next year I plan to add an older cayman s to my collection. Great videos. Glad to see you guys going strong and love your work..

  • @bstancel12
    @bstancel12 Před 2 lety

    So glad that I discovered this channel. Really like these guys, their reviews and that they are just themselves. As a former Top Gear UK fan, I have seen so many people, shows and CZcams channels try to recreate the dynamic of the hosts on that show instead of just being themselves. That is just difficult to watch. However, watching these guys, their takes and reviews just works and is refreshing. Thanks for filling that gap of a great automotive channel / show for car enthusiasts.

  • @timmy6012
    @timmy6012 Před 3 lety +65

    Nice review guys, Porsche really nailed it when they came up with the Cayman models. I drive a 2.7 with a few of the option boxes ticked. I never tire of listening to the flat 6 in sports mode as it revs through 5 to 7 thousand rpm, music to my ears. Great cars with an epic soundtrack!

    • @RussellMiddleton
      @RussellMiddleton Před 3 lety +9

      Likewise! IMO the 2.7 is plenty fast for the public road, and means you can rev it out to hear that flat-6 noise longer. Have fun.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 Před 3 lety +5

      The 2.7 really is a gem. You can rev it out everyday.

    • @tylerhollman587
      @tylerhollman587 Před rokem +2

      I just got a 2007 2.7 5 speed cayman. It's amazing

    • @hiphopcommunity4203
      @hiphopcommunity4203 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I love the 2.7 beautiful car

  • @soulstyledevon
    @soulstyledevon Před 3 lety +48

    987.2 is a timeless classic. In a world where everything has gone digital and touch sensitive, somewhat sterile.
    987s offer the classic sports car feel and package. Future classic...

    • @Lucky008aau
      @Lucky008aau Před 3 lety +1

      I'm going to take this personally.

    • @2gj906
      @2gj906 Před 3 lety +1

      I'd argue the first gen R is more of a future classic than the 987.2, definitely a lot more exclusive, you don't see them that often in the wild

    • @Lucky008aau
      @Lucky008aau Před 3 lety +2

      @@2gj906 987.2 is all Caymans from 2009-2012, including the base, S, and R (2012 only). But, I assume you're saying that the R is more exclusive (only 1621 made) and more of a future classic (cost $50k-60k) than the base and the S, which I believe you're right. But, at twice the price, with no A/C or radio, I chose the S.

    • @2gj906
      @2gj906 Před 3 lety

      @@Lucky008aau You're right the way R is specced isn't my first choice either, it's just a Porschephile's Special

    • @zzbear
      @zzbear Před 3 lety

      I love my 987.2. Best sound, best steering, best braking; hardly any breaking. No IMS issues.

  • @thomaswschaller
    @thomaswschaller Před 3 lety +5

    Such a great review - Thank you guys . I have never loved a car as much as my 987 manual 6. I had a 981 for a year, and only test-drove a 718 PDK - but came back to the 987. Also, I think it's the most beautiful of the lot . But any Cayman - with that mid-engine Porsche magic - can't go wrong.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 Před rokem

      Correct. End of discussion.

  • @2kviper877
    @2kviper877 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I bought my 987.2 base Cayman on the cheap and was just going to flip it for a quick buck.
    That was 4 years ago. I love this car!
    Another fantastic episode!
    Keep em coming!

  • @SJ-bk1zm
    @SJ-bk1zm Před 3 lety +4

    I liked this review a lot! You guys know what you are talking about: a very honest view on the different generations. Also: the sound quality is superb! It's something very rare to catch the sound in such a good way in a video. Thank you very much! Keep up the good work.

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed and we appreciate you watching and commenting!

  • @hollowpoint27
    @hollowpoint27 Před 3 lety +5

    Great comparison. The 718 is my favorite, but I love them all

  • @NoahBB
    @NoahBB Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video guys, much appreciated!

  • @2000viperrt
    @2000viperrt Před 3 lety +14

    Another great episode! Keep-em coming guys!
    Love my 2009 987.2 manual. So much fun to drive. It’s hard to stop putting miles on it. Like my Viper it’s a hooligan car. And there is definitely a new 4.0 Cayman or maybe Boxter in my future.

  • @lonniecrook1684
    @lonniecrook1684 Před 3 lety +14

    Have owned my 2016 981 S manual for two years now. I grin every time I turn the key and hear that normally aspirated 6 jump to life. I've never felt connected to a car like this one. There may be nuances between these three, but I absolutely love the feeling of driving my Cayman S. You can't go wrong with this car!

    • @MrJef06
      @MrJef06 Před 3 lety +3

      I know what you mean, I owned a 2014 981 (2.7) and now a 2016 981 GTS :) Test drove the 718 S, didn't like it.

  • @deanoc
    @deanoc Před 3 lety +24

    Having driven all 3 I totally agree with all of your comments. It is worth knowing that you can significantly improve the feel of the 981 by fitting the 718 rear ARB and brace as well as dialling in more neg camber. This is about all that Porsche changed and the improvement is drastic.

    • @TheTravisTube
      @TheTravisTube Před 3 lety

      Very interesting! As the owner of a 981s with x73 suspension, I have always wondered how much of the handling improvement granted to the 718 actually comes down to the suspension versus subtle changes in electronic steering. PASM is the sportiest option in the 718, but it gets major kudos and I've no doubt that it is good. Another tiny detail to keep in mind is that the steering wheel of the 718 actually has a smaller radius (I know this for sure because I recently swapped out my OEM multifunction wheel for a 718 wheel lol). I really need to drive the 718 (preferably on track), because now I'm curious about the overall differences in the way the two cars are set up.

  • @Jwdude123
    @Jwdude123 Před 3 lety +17

    Porsche 987 styling is perfection. Hydraulic steering is ace. They got it right the first time. The moment in time car.

  • @tommy516
    @tommy516 Před 2 lety +1

    I use to have a 718 GTS....I have a 992 Base and a few other Porsches but I'm watching you guys now to live Vicariously.....I have little kids and can never get out to drive. Those Aspens are great!

  • @_ArsNova
    @_ArsNova Před 2 lety +20

    All the Cayman gens are great, but I've got a lot of love for the 987. 981 isn't a bad choice either, a good increase in power and kept the classic Porsche flat-6.

  • @morganvon5664
    @morganvon5664 Před 3 lety +5

    I think this originally aired about 3 years ago. You guys really nailed it by choosing the Cayman R. It's a pretty rare car and has held it's value amazingly well. I've been trying to buy one, and many, especially the launch color peridot green, are selling for close to original sticker price.

  • @stefanescurichard773
    @stefanescurichard773 Před 3 lety +2

    Really wanted to see a video on this from you, great job👍

  • @bavariancarenthusiast2722
    @bavariancarenthusiast2722 Před 3 lety +51

    the best moment in time is the 981 - looks best of them, flat 6 - all the right options - Paul, don't sell it ever! Get a 2nd car if you must but keep the GTS.

    • @jamesmarshall3311
      @jamesmarshall3311 Před 3 lety +3

      Prefer the back end of the 987 to the 981 myself, but the rest of the 981 is a nice small tick nicer. More developed interior too.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 Před rokem +2

      987.1 is the moment in time car. End.

  • @jochemr.a.bakker8048
    @jochemr.a.bakker8048 Před 3 lety +8

    I went from a 987.1S to a 718S (both manuals). The lesser appeal to a lot of people for the 718 got me a great deal on one. My 987.1 sounded better than the 718 does, but everything else is better on the new one. And the auto rev matching is heavenly. Sure, I can heel-toe, but not as consistent as the 718 can do it for me. You guys should do the same series with all manual cars :)

  • @WormOfEscence
    @WormOfEscence Před 3 lety +27

    The 987 just looks TIMELESS!

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 Před 3 lety

      get glasses asap

    • @WormOfEscence
      @WormOfEscence Před 3 lety +1

      jankay 🗿

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 Před 3 lety

      Timeless.

    • @mohibzafar4585
      @mohibzafar4585 Před 3 lety

      True. Its the nearest cayman ever got to 911s.

    • @SonicProvocateur
      @SonicProvocateur Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@mohibzafar4585 Not surprising. The original 987 test mule was a 911 Cabriolet! Pinky Lai got it right first time; it has the classic Porsche styling thats absolutely timeless.

  • @sleepeatdrive7619
    @sleepeatdrive7619 Před 3 lety +2

    Well done! I owned a 987.2 Boxster PDK and I loved the hell out of it! Now I’m looking for a S2000 CR

  • @vasipete
    @vasipete Před 3 lety

    Have to say this came up as a suggested video and i'm not mad about it! Great Video Gents!!!

  • @sadubone
    @sadubone Před 3 lety +4

    I love the sound of Paul's exhaust. nicely done.

  • @imaheatfan
    @imaheatfan Před 3 lety +3

    Well done guys. So refreshing to see journalists not poopoo the 718’s flat four. ...but I’d still option mine as a 718 GTS 4.0

  • @siebevdc9403
    @siebevdc9403 Před 3 lety +2

    My god, this is the best video on CZcams. Proud owner of a Cayman 987.2. What a review,!

  • @7027A
    @7027A Před 2 lety +2

    No car videos feature better engine sounds than what you guys capture. I love that there are no GoPros stuck on the outside of the cars. All exterior action shots are captured from a chase car or drone or roadside...the best!

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you for noticing - it creates extra work, but we think it's important. Glad to have you watching!

  • @02b6a4
    @02b6a4 Před 3 lety +10

    As an owner of a 981cs for the past 6+ years and having driven the 718bs for a day, I can say that I'd stick with the 981cs. 718bs felt like a better car in terms of acceleration, suspension, and overall handling. The 981cs is just a better Porsche for me. Would love to experience the 987r.

  • @carsandchronos
    @carsandchronos Před 3 lety +9

    Have had a 987 for almost 5 years. A true pleasure to drive. Very analog feel (manual transmission, real gauges, etc) with timeless style and design!

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 Před 2 lety

      Moment in time car. Future classic.

  • @bmcallister1974
    @bmcallister1974 Před 2 lety

    Fair assessment. Although I’ve only experienced the 718 and own a 2014 Boxster 981S. Agree 100% the 718 is more agile. I just need the Na flat 6 sound. Especially with the top down. I look forward to trying the 987 someday! Great video guys!

  • @Ididntaskforahandleyoutube

    These guys are incredibly enjoyable to watch. The know their cars, they really know how to spin a yarn, and they feel like guys you'd like to drive around with. I've never written a comment like this because it sounds weird. It's just something that needed to be said. Cheers.

  • @georgeparaskevopoulos6601
    @georgeparaskevopoulos6601 Před 3 lety +55

    Cayman R for me all day long.

    • @MAXREVS
      @MAXREVS Před 3 lety +2

      George Paraskevopoulos +1 from me

    • @jankay8569
      @jankay8569 Před 3 lety +2

      its fugly tho

    • @CarYenta-1
      @CarYenta-1 Před 3 lety +1

      But the 987.1 has the engine that breaks

    • @CarYenta-1
      @CarYenta-1 Před 3 lety +2

      @John S I don't doubt that you have a good example. Bore scoring (which can also happen on the 9A1) keeps me up at night :)

    • @georgeparaskevopoulos6601
      @georgeparaskevopoulos6601 Před 3 lety +1

      Andrew Vasilakes an engine can get fixed. That’s not an issue. Here we are talking about driving pleasure. If you want a car that doesn’t break get yourself a Toyota. I don’t want to argue, but that’s the truth.

  • @scottiecopasetic8315
    @scottiecopasetic8315 Před 2 lety +6

    PS. Absolutely love the roads you guys choose for these auto vlogs. Looks like Yellowstone.

  • @scottiecopasetic8315
    @scottiecopasetic8315 Před 2 lety +1

    You guys do absolute best "in depth" reviews on cars that are for driving enthusiasts! I've tried & failed to aquire an M2CS bcuz I really need adaptive suspension (I don't get in my M2Comp). The Cayman GTS is high on my radar due to pre-owned Caymans not dropping enough in value. Porsche needs to include more options w/ base units (they're options lists are getting annoying & stupid). Hence why I've put a deposit down for a Lotus Emira! Can't wait to see your review on that mid engine Cayman competitor!

  • @simonjohansson5226
    @simonjohansson5226 Před 3 lety

    Great video, love the production quality, getting top gear vibes almost. Keep up the great work! Glad I found u guys.

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  Před 3 lety

      Glad you found us too! Thanks for watching... lots more on the way.

  • @jeffrey-f
    @jeffrey-f Před 3 lety +5

    987.2 was my favorite perfect shape with updated lights and small

  • @RussellMiddleton
    @RussellMiddleton Před 3 lety +8

    Great comparison. I've driven all extensively, and found the 987 is by far the most communicative and the best choice for a weekend car. Extra refinement of the 981 worth considering for a daily or for long distances. I can't imagine paying more for a 718 and losing that beautiful sound.
    My solution was to take the 981 budget (~$35k) and buy a 987 for weekends + and a Golf GTI for practical stuff/long distance. The greatest weekend fun in the Cayman + serious 4-seat practicality (and still a chunk of fun!) the rest of the time. Regularly driving two very different types of car is enjoyable too.
    Don't think there's any going back to the feel of the 987, so sadly think this is the last Porsche I'll own. I love it.

  • @benlowden5799
    @benlowden5799 Před rokem

    Incredibly informative, thank you!

  • @PStewart28
    @PStewart28 Před 3 lety +2

    Stunning cinematography. Well done gentleman.

  • @c4lvin1337
    @c4lvin1337 Před 3 lety +3

    I absolutely love my 981 Cayman S. But you just cant go wrong with any generation Cayman. Absolute hilarious fun.

  • @ZDY66666
    @ZDY66666 Před 3 lety +43

    definitely, 981 GTS will be the go-to one in the future especially when Naturally aspirated sports cars with great sound become impossible to get and are not produced anymore.
    987 R closely after.
    But 981 is the better middle ground that can age better from a design, reliability, and support perspective.

    • @Te1ecastermaster
      @Te1ecastermaster Před 3 lety +4

      718 gts 4.0...

    • @ZDY66666
      @ZDY66666 Před 3 lety +6

      Nate Crabtree nope, I disagree and here’s the technicals to why:
      718 GTS 4.0 sounds worse than 981 GTS (especially with the particulate filter). Near non-existent noise below 4000 rpm but due to sharing the same horrible gear ratios as the 981 (also 981's big flaw too imo), except with even more horsepower. Slow gearing with even more horsepower means that to hear that engine you’re in 100% jail speeds. Whereas the 981 makes nice sound anywhere past 2000 rpm and even 2000rpm makes a grumbly sound (but arguably a drone sound, still better than nothing). While its still got horrible gearing, at least you still get to hear something. And since it has less horsepower, you can actually ride the horrid gears and end up in less speed than hte 718 4.0 GTS. Espeically when the day comes where none of these cars are competitive at 0-60, this will matter even more.
      Secondly, 718 GTS 4.0 is built on an engine complying with newer emission standards and laws. It also has much less induction noise as well.
      Thirdly, 718 GTS 4.0 price point is much higher. As high if not more than 981 GT4 if we were to travel back in time. And I am referring to average samples around the market,not starting price (which is a horrible indication for porsches).
      Also I’m assuming everyone already knows this. The GTS “4.0” ‘s 4.0 engine is not the GT3 4.0 engine. It’s a much cheaper to produce engine based on the twin turbo flat 6 used in 991.2 and 992.1 911s. But stripped its turbos and bored and stroked up to 4.0. Which is why it sounds so bland.

    • @watermelon2521
      @watermelon2521 Před 3 lety

      I agree. My dad bought a 981 gts and dang it sounds good...

    • @jeffrey-f
      @jeffrey-f Před 3 lety

      981 is the ugliest generation too bulky

    • @bunsenn5064
      @bunsenn5064 Před 2 lety

      @@ZDY66666 So it’s the sound? That’s it? Like, when people complain about turbocharging these days, I can usually understand that being due to the performance difference and the way the car delivers power. The sound is probably one of the last things that matters. The emotion and driving experience of an engine is about the way the engine performs and feels. And frankly, the sound isn’t really a turn-off for me. A naturally aspirated flat-six on its own is enough for me.

  • @lewiseig5432
    @lewiseig5432 Před 2 lety

    I loved my Cayman R but in the suburbs, pot holes and bad roads are so much more acceptable in a GT4 981....and then there's everything else, almost the same weight in my stripped GT4 as the R, but significantly more HP, and the sound....wow. great job on this video.

  • @lackeringen
    @lackeringen Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this great comparison. Great job.

  • @WormOfEscence
    @WormOfEscence Před 3 lety +16

    987 for the win!

  • @TheUnlistedOne
    @TheUnlistedOne Před 3 lety +10

    BEST VIDEO EVER! ........ BUT, 981GTS for life!

  • @briandeaton3550
    @briandeaton3550 Před 3 lety +2

    Great topic and video. I'm a Corvette enthusiast but am most likely to cross shop a Cayman.

  • @joshuadewaal
    @joshuadewaal Před 2 lety

    Just picked up a manual 981, also a Utah native, those are some choice roads, luckily I recognized most of them, thanks for sorting out my coming weekend plans!

  • @Bananagrouve
    @Bananagrouve Před 3 lety +3

    Guys, please never stop making these videos

  • @DrivenGarage
    @DrivenGarage Před 3 lety +6

    Just because this video it confirmed my love for the 981, now im flying out tomorrow to get a 981!!🥰😍 to join the Lotus family 😇

  • @ormand3000
    @ormand3000 Před 3 lety +2

    Bought a CPO 981CS 3 years ago, and it's the best car I've ever owned. Easily replaces motorcycle trackday riding, and that's saying something!

  • @patrickodonnell9388
    @patrickodonnell9388 Před 3 lety +1

    I own a 987.1 it's a 5 speed manual and it's a beautiful car that I love. It's not a S model but it's still a blast to drive. I did all the upgrades that were possible like seats and exhaust and suspension but I didn't touch anything related to the engine because I believe it's perfect as is.

  • @donzmeuheu6153
    @donzmeuheu6153 Před 2 lety +4

    987 All the Way. Best Car ever made by Porsche.

  • @armancz
    @armancz Před 3 lety +22

    Never thought I'd ever say this but I love the sound of 718 in this video, and now with 6 cylinder back in GTS 4 cylinder GTS will be a bargain.

    • @capuchinseven
      @capuchinseven Před 3 lety +6

      Just traded my 981 for a 718 and I honestly do not understand the hate.

    • @jamesmarshall3311
      @jamesmarshall3311 Před 3 lety

      @@capuchinseven people just don`t like the sound of the four cylinder, not to mention the feel. No turbo eithir makes the earlier models feel more sporting fun as you have to work the engine a bit more.

    • @heavyarmsofsteel
      @heavyarmsofsteel Před 3 lety +2

      I just picked up 2018 Cayman S. In 2 weeks already had neighbours say it is loud....louder than my prior boxster 981 with PSE. Driving dynamics....no comparison. 718 all the way

    • @thomasbummer4361
      @thomasbummer4361 Před 3 lety

      @@heavyarmsofsteel cant compare boxster to cayman dynamics

    • @michaelmich00
      @michaelmich00 Před rokem

      @@capuchinseven how did u like it past years? pro's and cons?

  • @Chris-hb6jt
    @Chris-hb6jt Před rokem +2

    987.2 is peak cayman, solved the reliability issues. I put 65k miles on mine and made money

  • @dubd7626
    @dubd7626 Před 3 lety +1

    Can’t wait to hear the podcast I listened to all of them so much my phone asked if I was still interested in the other podcast I’m subscribed to 😂

  • @MAXREVS
    @MAXREVS Před 3 lety +12

    I’ve just been sent a link to this video by a subscriber as I run a Cayman focused YT channel. This is going to be an epic video!! Disclaimer, I own a 987.2 CS ;-)

    • @tomingrassiaimages8776
      @tomingrassiaimages8776 Před 3 lety +1

      Hi Max!

    • @MAXREVS
      @MAXREVS Před 3 lety

      @@tomingrassiaimages8776 Fancy seeing you here. Having owned a 987 and now a 981, all that’s left is to buy a 718 one day ;-)

    • @tomingrassiaimages8776
      @tomingrassiaimages8776 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MAXREVS Max...you know..I think you have convinced me that 911's are not in my future. I am so happy with my 981 GTS. I can't even imagine what would come next. Probably a 2020 718 GTS in 2026.

  • @watermelon2521
    @watermelon2521 Před 3 lety +4

    My dads got a 981 gts and holy that thing sounds sooooo good

  • @fragu123
    @fragu123 Před 3 lety +1

    Love to watch your guy’s reviews.....

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto Před 2 lety +1

    Good review gentleman. I am glad to hear people praising Porsche's 4 cylinder turbo. I'd like to drive one and see how it performs.

  • @John_watches-cars
    @John_watches-cars Před 2 lety +7

    718 GTS 2.5 with a simple APR tune is absolutely incredible and will hang with a GT4. 718 engineering is simply a thing of beauty

  • @strebrr
    @strebrr Před 3 lety +3

    Great video. I'd love to see a comparison between the flat 4 Turbo Cayman GTS vs. the NA flat 6 4.0 Cayman GTS 😍

  • @Matt77346
    @Matt77346 Před rokem +1

    I was shopping 981S vs 987.2S in manual....ended up with a 2012 987.2 S and couldn't be happier. Coming from an Elise and 4C background, I actually preferred the drive in the 987.2. The 981's are great but they don't feel as nimble or raw as the 987's. Also I prefer the way the front looks on the 981 but the rest of the car looks better on the 987, especially from the back. My 2012 is over 10 years old and has 31k miles but no rattles or creaks anywhere. Build quality is excellent.

  • @stoneeh
    @stoneeh Před 2 lety

    Good stuff. The Cayman has been my dream car since it came on the market, and it's nice to see this comparison of all three generations. I'd love a 718 GTS 4.0, but it's not in the books for me yet.. until then I have to be content with my current dream car, a Corrado VR6 with Bilstein B12 suspension, Eibach sway bars & Wiechers strut bars front and rear, carbon hood, LiPo battery, Tarox brakes, and some other good stuff.

  • @orangecayman520
    @orangecayman520 Před 3 lety +13

    987 for me, but I'm biased 😉

  • @vietthanhnguyen1227
    @vietthanhnguyen1227 Před 3 lety +7

    I love the first gen design. Especially the round fog lights

    • @SLG52
      @SLG52 Před 3 lety

      I have an 06S. I see people who replace the round lights with cheap looking LED strips. It is terrible!!!!

    • @vietthanhnguyen1227
      @vietthanhnguyen1227 Před 3 lety

      @@SLG52ikr they want their car look like newer 981, like some company sell bodykit to "transform" 997 to 991 lol. So stupid.

    • @Jwdude123
      @Jwdude123 Před 3 lety

      Agree.

  • @MikeHuffman410
    @MikeHuffman410 Před 8 měsíci

    Great review and perfect backdrop!

  • @minimcewen
    @minimcewen Před 3 lety +1

    Ahhh....love the video. Sometimes I feel like my 981 is the unwanted stepchild of Porsche. Visited the factory and could not find anything 981 (books, models, stickers...). Such a great car all but I just wish the new models could still house a roof rack for extra storage. Not sure why they decided to do away with that when the 911 still has the mounts for the roof rack. Give me that and a sunroof and bliss.

  • @Tekart47
    @Tekart47 Před 3 lety +15

    Great review as always... Recently picked up a used 2018 Cayman S (6 spd with every performance option ticked) and it is such an amazing car on the street and track. Let the purist hate on the 4 cylinder and go pick one up for a deal used and drive the crap out of it.

    • @dana.4263
      @dana.4263 Před 3 lety

      Same here, 2 weeks ago. Came from Audi TTS ..this is quite a bit better experience so far

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb Před 2 lety

      @@dana.4263 really, I have a mk2 tt, how does it differ?
      Thinking about a ttrs, cayman 718 s, 981 s or just wait and see on the emira

  • @sniperBOBAH
    @sniperBOBAH Před 3 lety +4

    718 for daily, 981 for weekend and 987 for track :-)

  • @dpr5105
    @dpr5105 Před 3 lety +1

    I had a 97 C4S, had it for about 3 years, then got tired of it and sold it (big mistake given current prices..) and got a Lotus Elise, had that for about 3 years as well. Then got a new 2011 Cayman 987 and I STILL have it because I've never been bored by it. Still a delight every time I drive it.

  • @tonyli5197
    @tonyli5197 Před 3 lety +12

    16:07 the front bumper hits the ground for sure. (from a current 718 Cayman GTS owner)

  • @goofydog2
    @goofydog2 Před 3 lety +6

    I waited 3 years before I plucked down for my 981 Cayman. I still think it was the greatest looking Cayman and I still think it is. The 987 just drooped too much, especially the rear end as well as the side view.

  • @chst9801
    @chst9801 Před 3 lety

    Another good video, thanks! Did I miss where you discussed outward visibility, seating position?

  • @jeffreygong1101
    @jeffreygong1101 Před 3 lety +1

    Paul and Todd is actually the same person split in two, the split personalities aside (which i love) , you can also see it by looking at their hair line, they complete each other like a jigsaw piece to its slot, I love it.

  • @DriverGuy23
    @DriverGuy23 Před 3 lety +13

    I’ve been lucky enough to own all 3 Cayman generations. My latest 718 is the best of the bunch out of all 3. Why? Because, in my opinion, the 718 has better handling, better acceleration, better tech & the best interior of all 3. I’m impressed whenever I’m behind the wheel & look forward to the next Cayman generation.

    • @kaisvlog7208
      @kaisvlog7208 Před 2 lety

      I'm very seriously considering the 718 300HP 2.0L but thinking that I might miss out a whole lot from the 981 flat 6 341hp.
      Both PDK. I live in a rather small city with fair amount of country roads
      Hope you can sway me to the 718 and not much im missing fr d inline 6 and the sound. But I can be seduced by the inline 6 and the sound.
      Which has better throttle response?

  • @Dave-un7fh
    @Dave-un7fh Před 2 měsíci +3

    Just came across this. The 718 is the Marketing name. If you are going to refer to the two previous models by their respective Type numbers, then the 718 should be referred to as it's Type number, which is 982. Just saying.

  • @piotrk1047
    @piotrk1047 Před 2 lety

    Ty for sharing ... and Yes there is absolutely 1 to many buttons ... mainly the Auto Start stop ;)

  • @larrycohen8580
    @larrycohen8580 Před 3 lety +1

    I’ve owned some great drivers cars (including 1971 Alfa GTV) but my 987 Cayman ranks #1. It simply does everything so well

  • @iluvcakes19
    @iluvcakes19 Před 3 lety +3

    987 is easily my favorite gen!

  • @tomingrassiaimages8776
    @tomingrassiaimages8776 Před 3 lety +4

    I love my 981 GTS!

  • @cbttrainee5961
    @cbttrainee5961 Před 2 lety

    Excellent vid guys.

  • @danielpfister6774
    @danielpfister6774 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video 🤓!!! I recently acquired my 2023 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 which has the 4L NA flat six cylinder engine (same unit as a GT4) and a PDK gearbox. Power output (394 bhp) and torque (317 lb-ft) are a nice match to this car's sensible curb weight (~3200 lbs). The color is Gentian Blue metallic with a black/chalk all-leather interior and silver wheel rims. It's definitely an entertaining driver's car!
    So far, I've only done 326 miles but hopefully a lot more this next summer! The PDK is also a lot of fun (it's definitely quick) 🤓
    All the best and thanks again from Colorado!
    "Porsche...There is No Substitute!!!"

  • @atticus6572
    @atticus6572 Před 3 lety +7

    Funnily, each generation of Cayman can and will be argued as the underrated one.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry Před 3 lety +1

      I've only really heard people call the 718 underrated, never the 981 at least compared to other Caymans. They're all underrated by 911 fans of course. What I definitely haven't heard though is anyone calling a Cayman overrated. They're definitely not perfect cars, but right now I can't think of a car I'd rather have than a 981S (which is good because I just spent a lot of money on one!).