2021 Commencal Clash | Everything You Need To Know
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You still had a lot of questions about my 2021 Commencal Clash Essential, and in this video, we address them all…. Everything from bike weight to size charts, you guys had a lot of good questions in my previous two videos. As always, if I missed anything, let me know down in the comments and I will do my best to help you out!
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I have the same bike and played with the kinematics chip. The sensitive is good if you want a plowing machine and don't do big jumps or ride less aggressive, but the Responsive position is wayyyy better for popping stuff, doing big jumps and pumping the terrain. Still have quite good traction and sensibility for rough stuff.
Good to know! I’ll pin this comment for anyone looking for info on this. Thank you!
I have the same bike as well and I totally agree with you. The responsive position makes it easier to jump and also the suspension becomes more progressive. I also added 3 volume spacers to make it poppier. Without those spacers I was also using almost every inch of travel of the rear shock on my home trails. With the spacers in I have some reserves for the bike park. BTW: I am 85 kg and 183 cm, own this bike in Size L.
Thanks for the great info!
@@jorais0711 There's 1 volume spacer stock in there then?
@@timdanella5691 hi, I got it with zero spacers. I had to pump 250 psi in it with 0 zero spacers to get the right sag and I was still using almost every inch of travel. With 3 spacers in (4 is possible) I am now with 200 psi at the right sag (with gear on 87 kg = 30%). Hope that helps in any way.
Still the most underrated youtuber of all time
lol thanks man! Sharing the channel with your friends and in groups that might be interested help a lot!
yes. Great channel for sure!
Amazing review dude ... I’ve been riding my clash since the start of September and it is absolutely perfect
Ordered my '21 Meta TR end sept '20, received after 5 weeks! Can't wait to ride it this spring!
This video definitely confirmed some stuff I’ve been on the fence about. Thank you.
Awesome! Glad I could help 🤘🏼
Damnnnnn bro ! Another great video ! And finally a new video !! Keep good works coming !!
Thank you! I know, I haven’t been the best about posting lately... life and other hobbies got ahold of me for a little while. Hopefully we’re back on a regular schedule now!
Great content. The overlayed audio quality is so good.
Thank you!
Thakn you for this, been looking for a video of this nature for a while, looks like I'll be placing an order in the not to distant future
Heck yeah! You’ll love it! 👌🏼
Awesome reviews! Your videos helped me make my decision between a couple different bikes. April can not come soon enough to receive my clash race!
Sick! You’re going to love it!! 🤘🏼
Hello from Barcelona, Spain. Great content very help full.
Thank you for including KG and CM for us EU guys
Hey no problem! 🤘🏼
So tempted to get one of these as a first full suspension bike for a bit of enduro, downhill, jumps with some decent travel. Also love the content!
Thanks man! 🤘🏼 it checks all the boxes in my opinion!
Thanks for the review, I am just like you, I ride to trails and that what I was concerned with...
Ordered in mid Jan, arriving in may 21
Sick! You’re going to love it!!
Great video mate! I'm so torn between the new Clash and a YT Capra Shred at the moment, leaning towards the Clash. Great content, its so hard to find the answers by just googling away! Especially for free ride bikes.....
Thanks a lot! Hopefully between this and my other two videos about this bike, anything you need to know is answered!
I have the shred. I'm looking at clash frames rn because I want to step up to an XL frame
I am the exact same
Just put a dhx2 on my clash, feels amazing and looks sick.
Ohhhh man! That’s the coil I would go with too! I bet it looks amazing 👌🏼
Thanks for the video. First, I would never buy a 38lbs. bike for the single track (local trails). Second, your footage of the road (transit) to your local trails had your front fork in the fully OPEN position 🤣. Thanks for the laugh and great edit!
The clip you’re referring to is a ride back to camp in Copper Harbor after a decent on Overflow… a black tech with double black options. just fit for story telling purposes 👍🏼
seriously sick review... thanks for sharing, absolutely love the lines on this bike, the weight has me a little freaked out though, not sure...
Thanks man! The weight is pretty standard for an enduro bike. Things like the big fork, large shock and longer dropper post really add up. Then factor in everything else from a mid spec bike and that’s the results lol not sure if top end products would make much of a weight difference here since suspension is really the driving factor in my opinion.
@@TheShredShedMTB Yep. Fork and shock are the big contributing factors here. hmmm.. how is the rear suspension design for pedaling? lots of bob? do you feel like you're getting good energy transfer or does it feel like you're on a foam mattress?....
Doesn’t feel bad. I currently have 2 spacers and flipped the chip into the progressive setting and it’s great for my local flat trails. Pretty stiff for the fun stuff, but can always flip it back when necessary
Loving the channel, my guy! I'm also a local rider and was hoping to get out with you guys last year but broke my dang neck in August! I'll see you on the trails in the spring. I swapped out my XC bike for a Fezzari Cascade Peak in medium. If you ever want to give it a ride, just hit me up.
Oh no!!! Hopefully not from riding 😳
@@TheShredShedMTB yeah, buddy! North loop roller bridge bucked me over the bars directly onto my head. Five fractured vertebrae. But, I'm healing and will ride again, so there's something to look forward to!
Dang man! Did you come in a little to hot? Have your seat a little to high? Glad you’re in good spirits about it! Gonna claim redemption on it this spring!?
@@TheShredShedMTB all of the above! Too hot, no dropper on the XC, and not paying attention to either of those things until too late. Once the confidence is back, I'll get my redemption for sure.
Right on man!! Hope you’re healing well. Can’t wait to meet you this spring on some rides! 🤘🏼
You are a LEGEND!! You really helped us to make our decisions.
So I placed an order.
By the way.
Is there bike you would buy in that price range instead of commensal clash?
Thank you so much🤗.
thanks! 🤘🏼
I've been very interested in Transition bikes, but the models ive looked at are a bit more expense than the Clash. the essential is an amazing value for the price and one heck of a bike! I have a video dropping later today of riding it in Whistler and it did GREAT!
@@TheShredShedMTB Thank you so much!!
Hey man, I notice your bike is super clean considering you’ve had it since last summer. Could you show us what you do to maintain it/clean it? Do you feel like the frame protector keeps a lot of the dirt off? Thanks!!
Not a bad video idea! I can try to put something like that together in the future (probably needs to wait until spring though 😳).
I feel like the frame protector I used doesn’t since it’s a rough material. If it were smooth, then I might, but I feel like this allows dirt to cling on easier. I could be wrong though.
@@TheShredShedMTB gotcha! Cool man, I subbed! Great video
Thanks a lot man! Means a lot!
5 foot 12
Should I get the origin or save up alittle more and get a ride? Sick vid 🤙🤙
Thanks man! Before the 2021 came out, I was considering the 2020 origin but decided otherwise. It seems like a good bike for the price, but I knew I would be upgrading most of the components right from the start so it made sense to buy an upgraded model. Really comes down to what you want, and if you plan to upgrade or not.
@@TheShredShedMTB apart from a dropper and a few frame protectors that’s it really.
Hello! Nice video. Based on it I ordered Clash essential and hopefully, it will arrive in December.
Is there something that I should take care about ? Frame protection is clear to me. I have already ordered chain guide + bash guard.
What is your experiences with Fox38? I have just checked a couple of videos on youtube about creaking noises in crown area. Have you noticed also the same issue for this fork?
Many thanks for feedback!
Marcel
you'll love it! did it deliver yet?
from my experience, nothing more than any other bike. I haven't experienced the creaking on the 38, but did have that happen on a lower end fork I had on a previous bike.
Thanks for the video. I just put in a pre-order for a Clash which I'm quite excited about. One question...
Do you find you get any brake jack or pedal kick back when braking hard in technical rooty/rocky sections? Apparently this is the only drawback with a single pivot frame.
I noticed that the brake mount is attached to the chain stay and not the seat stay like most bikes. Perhaps that helps with the "single pivot brake jack" affect.
Sweet! You’re going to love it!
I’ve notice a little pedal kick, but can’t say I’m familiar with brake jack.... I’ve honestly never heard of this term but the concept makes sense lol if it’s there, it’s minimal because I haven’t noticed anything like that
@@TheShredShedMTB Thanks for confirming. I hoped that would be the case.
Btw, regarding sizing.. I'm just over 6' and I ordered a small frame. I know that sounds crazy but here's my reasoning.. I noticed that over the last few years, bikes have just been getting longer and bigger. I compared the geo with bikes I have had in the past and I noticed that the small Clash actually has a larger reach than the large v1 5010 I had. I spend a lot of time on a dirt jumper and I like the playful feel of smaller bikes. I know the small has a small seat tube length of 380mm but I'm hoping I could fit a 180mm dropper. Anyway, I hope I don't regret the size choice.
Hi, do you know how different your model is from yhe 2022 park edition model?
I don’t, sorry :(
Sorry if this has been addressed, but I really want this bike vs the Meta SX and my only reservation is the potential difference in climbing performance
Is the Clash that BAD to climb on or is it manageable?
because if it is at least a decent climber, I think I wanna go with this bike, I'd like to go for the clash and it's quicker steering, more playful, and better handling 27.5" front and rear vs a Mullet in the Meta SX?
Did you end up getting the suspension tuned in better? In the other vid you mentioned you've never bottomed out the fork, but bottomed the shock quite a bit. I'm curious if volume spacers will sort that out without degrading the rear-end performance too much. If it doesn't, that just means the bike is over-forked, really.
For my local trails, yes. But I know I need a couple volume spacers to prevent bottom outs on bigger hits.
does the bike have much pedal bob if the shock isin`t locked ? great content looking to get one soon.
Really depends on your shock set up, but the short answer is no. The shock and linkage is very supportive and doesn’t have much bob while pedaling.
@@TheShredShedMTB thanks for the instant respons
I have got the same bike, and I love it !!!!! curious thing is that I also broke derailleur ... and I installed 3 volume spacers fork and shock, and the performance improvement is notable.
Yeahhhhh it’s not the strongest mech out there... the way mine broke, it either should have folded back or bent the hanger, not snapped the cage. Oh well 😩
@@TheShredShedMTB yes bro, agree.
What did you replace it with?
@@TheShredShedMTB same one. Worked well before and also the same new.
I wish I could have too. Even though I felt like it could have been built a little stronger, it was very responsive and easy to index.
Ist das bike custom und wenn ja würden die Teile z.b Dämpfer und Gabrl im Original Foxkaton geschickt
How much psi were in your tires when it ripped off? I am interested in the weight as my my bike is 38lbs and is a geometron 29er with a coil shock and a rockshox boxxer fork.
I typically run around 30 in the rear. When running jump lines, I’ll usually bump that up to close to 35.
Nice Dog
How do you find the 27.5 wheels?
I can't decide whether this bike would be worth it for me. I usually ride trails where a 140-150 mil trail bile would be perfect, but I take about 5 trips a year to bike parks where this bike would kill. Any advice?
You’re in the exact same position I’m in. Most of the trails I ride at home are XC trails where a hard tail is ideal. But I PREFER to ride bigger stuff where a big bike like this excels.
I'm really debating pre ordering this bike. I am still torn between 27.5s and 29s.. I'm leaning towards 27.5s, but if I were ever wanting to move to 29s would I be able to?
If you want to go 29, the meta is the bike you’re looking for. Clash only comes in a 27.5 🤘🏼
What bottom bracket does this bike run? Looking to upgrade my cranks but can't figure out the correct BB
Hmmm I’m not sure. That should be listed in the spec sheet online though
Since the stock drivetrain is Shimano 1 by 10 instead of 1 by 12 like other enduro bikes, do u think something can be done to change the whole drivetrain to a 1 by 12 setup?
This comes stock as a 1x12
not really related to the bike itself but what are the grips like?
I like them! At first I didn’t think I did... it seemed like there wasnt a lot of grip to them. Then I realized that the ridges move a little when holding on so it allows your hand to wiggle a little bit (if that makes sense?). Turns out, tons of grip and very comfy.
I’m torn between the essential and the signature, would the suspension upgrade be that much better?
I’m a total newb btw.
The signature is such a good looking bike! The factory suspension is a solid upgrade, but... I’m not sure if it’s something that I would notice. I’m not super knowledgeable of the factory level suspension, but I know it’s high end lol
If your a newbie maybe the essential is better. Less adjustments makes it wayy simpler
Also it's cheaper if you have to replace parts after crashes which everybody does alot when progressing
How does the Fox performance suspension fare up against other suspension you’ve ridden? I’m considering getting a Clash, however I’m deciding whether to do a frame up build and try and source some different suspension outside of Commencal’s options. Have you had the chance to ride any other suspension, and how did they compare? Thanks
So far, it feels much nicer. It’s not apples to apples, but I had a Rockshox Revelation fork and Fox Float Evolution shock on my stumpy that I used to ride. Again, not a fair comparison, but I definitely prefer the x2 and 38! Way more plush, and the fork is very rigid with the huge stanchions 👌🏼
@@TheShredShedMTB thank you, that’s good to know. I’m riding a revelation right now on my bike, so it would be a nice upgrade. I’ve seen that commencal do have the option of a Zeb ultimate so I may go with that, if not a may try Marzocci. But if I end up choosing a complete bike, the Fox kit sounds great:) do you know if there’s a way of having the frame swapped, say I wanted the clash essential, but I love the polished frame, would you know if I would be able to have it changed when they build the bike up?
Not that I’m aware of 😩
@@TheShredShedMTB I thought that might be the case. I’ll have to have a think about it. Unless I can get trade price on parts by having the bike custom built through an independent bike store, I may have to reconsider doing a complete custom build. What were the other bikes you were considering when you got this one, if there were any?
I was looking at YT and Santa Cruz mostly. No specific bike, but was having a hard time finding what I was looking for. I considered the 2020 Clash Origin and upgrade pretty much everything, but decided not to. Then when I saw the heritage green Meta (which came out before the clash), I almost bought that but didn’t want to go 29 so I waited to see what they did with the 2021 clash. The day they announced it, I ordered lol
Hey Does yours make a clicking sound in the linkage? mine does and Commencal said they can't do anything about it
It does not, but my dropped makes a clicking sound. Maybe double check to make sure it’s not coming from that 👍🏼
@@TheShredShedMTB ok ill check that today
Oh boy. Im doing double downs and cushcore on mine. Prolly gonna weigh 40lb 🤣
😂😂😂
I'm about to build up a furious (very similar to clash) and I'm getting a size small lol. Commencal makes very long bikes. I'm 177cm (almost 5'10). The size small furious has a reach of 440 and a stack of 613. That's bigger than my 2017 Transition TR500 size large! When bikes are too large I can't bunny hop or manual nearly as well and overall feels sloppy to me. Personal preference at the end of the day.
I never trust the size charts!!
Right on! Circle back once it’s built and let me know how you like the smaller size! You’re spot on with the larger clash being harder to manual
@@TheShredShedMTB Will do. Yeah I grew up always riding my bmx bike so that's another reason smaller bikes feel more at home to me
@@kevgoo1274 same! I rode a medium stumpy for years, but found that this large clash can be just as playful. Just takes a little more work lol
@@TheShredShedMTB Been riding the furious. It got delayed for a while... Glad i went for the small for sure
Hi, I’m 16 and 5’9” and probably still growing but I can’t decide if I should go for a medium or a large any help would be appreciated.
If you think you will keep growing, and growing soon, maybe a large will work. But even if you grew a couple more inches, a medium wouldn’t be to small
@@TheShredShedMTB thank you for your help that has basically made my decision now as I am looking at the gun metal version of your bike. Hope to see more amazing videos soon.
Thanks a lot man! I’ll keep em coming as quick as I can!
I have trails with lots of jump but havent any tech trails. the jumps are like 8m long and there are 3m high kickers. I go 1 week to austria and do a biketrip and 2-3 times to other bikeparks. is this the right bike for me? Or has trail bike enough travel?
The reason I got this bike is so I could pedal it, but also never be under biked. All of my local trails are XC, but I just got back from riding Whistler with it.
@@TheShredShedMTB so you can go in the bikepark with the bike, but you also can do an enduro tour and freeriding, right?
@WT_Enjoyer oh for sure. I just it for literally everything. It’s a big heavy bike for XC, but works fine
Do you recommend the commercial clash ride bike and I'm between 5.8-5.10 ish what size do you recommend??
I can only speak to the essential, but I would assume that the ride would be good too. You’ll need to dig into that more though since I’m not sure what the bike is specd with. At your height, you’re probably on the chart for a size medium right?
@@TheShredShedMTB okay and thank you of your time
Any time man! Sorry I couldn’t be more help!
Do you know if the meta is any good in comparison
I would assume it’s a great bike as well, but can’t speak from experience 😩
Does it come with tube less sealant in it
Mine did not, but I have head of a few bikes that did come with a tube of sealant and valves.
I am 176cm big and I'm 14 years old so i think I will still grow. In the size guide I'm in the medium! Now I am unsure which size I should buy???
What size do you think you’ll go with?
@@TheShredShedMTB I am really unsure
On my bike right know I'm on a M it's a lapierre zesty am fit 3.0 and this one is already a bit small for me. If I would buy the same bike again I would go with L but on this bike I'm unsure! If have to order right now I think I would go M.
@@zebi_junior3111 I’m asking the same question to myself I guess it all comes down to what you prefer I’m 5’8” at 14 and still growing I went with the size large.
@@freeridemtb5919 Okay! Thank you!
@@zebi_junior3111 anytime!
What axles does this have? I can’t find information on what type they are anywhere! Sorry if this question is coming in late af 😬
axle size?
@@TheShredShedMTB It’s ok, since then I’ve bought the bike 😆 I was going to get quick release thru axles for it when it arrived which is why I was asking
@@Loudinkooks oh sick! how do you like it?
@@TheShredShedMTB it’s absolutely insane! I got the Ride model in Sand and got skinwall tyres and the good rental bars to match it, it looks sick and rides so plush! Thanks for your videos on the bike too man, it really helped with choosing it :)
What do you think about commencal clash ride 2021?
Looks sick! Unfortunately I don’t have any experience with the Ride.
@@TheShredShedMTB thank you
This helped a lot but im still torn between a medium and large at 5'`10 i went to the my local bike shop and they said id fit a size medium but all the reviews including this say a large is the best especially cuz im a pretty slim guy. im so confuseddddd
I’m 5’10” and wear 32” length pants if that helps for a comparison lol don’t worry to much about reach. You can adjust bars, stem and saddle to account for a little bit of that. Even though I was in the middle of the two, I knew I wanted to size up. I rode a Medium Specialized Stumpjumper before this and felt cramped. It was very easy to navigate tighter trails, but was small for the trails I liked.
@@TheShredShedMTB yeh i have long legs but a slim upper body and shoulders, i currently ride a medium specialized stumpy as well but its 26inch which is probs why it feels so small, i just want the size that suits me best for doing jumps and gaps as well as fast paced flow trails
Ohhhh going up a tire size AND a frame size will be a pretty big change... just make sure to take that into consideration.
@@TheShredShedMTB very true ty man
Any time!
why the clash over the Meta AM ?
The main reason is that I didn’t want to go 29er 😬
@@TheShredShedMTB ahh yeah fair play. not sure which i prefer
Do You recommend me the sx size S or M? I'm 168cm :/
how tall is that in ft and inches?
how much did u bought for this clash?
if I remember right, I think I paid about $3,700
How is the bike at long mountainbike tours?
I’ve found it to be really good! Longest ride I have on it is about 35 miles and I stayed comfortable the whole time. I’ll need to post an update video, but I have it setup for a no pack ride so I’ve got everything mounted to the bike.
@@TheShredShedMTB I have just one more question
I am 176cm big and I'm 14 years old so i think I will still grow. In the size guide I'm in the medium! Now I am unsure which size I should buy???
Wanted to buy that bike but bought a specialized status 160 instead
Nice! That’s a sick bike 👌🏼how do you like it?
@@TheShredShedMTB Too much snow to ride it now But I’m really excited to ride it.
Haha I’m sure! Were you able to get it right away, or was there a wait? I know the specialized dealer by me has been having a hard time getting bikes in for a while.
@@TheShredShedMTB I was lucky and saw that my local dealer had one in stock and bought it. It’s the last one they had and they said they couldn’t order more.
Nice snag!
Do you think a bike is too long?
Not at all. It’s long for tight XC trails but it’s not bad and also not what it’s made for. I don’t feel stretched riding it 👌🏼
Does it have a water bottle mount. Pls tell me
Yes it does
@@TheShredShedMTB great
Music don't allow to listen to the voice if you have hearing issues.
sorry :(
Price ?
$3,800
How much is it
$3,700
Hi
Hey man!
“oh that did not sound good” - no it didn’t sound good at all hahaha
Lol nope!
37lbs...yeah. I'll pass lol
That’s pretty standard for an enduro bike
This bike is so sexy!
Right!?
how much did u bought for this clash?
if I remember right, I think I paid about $3,700