Just for clarity (no pun intended) the $30 Universal version was cut by Alex Abrash at AA Mastering from a digital file supplied by Bernie Grundman. Great video Mazzy, you cut through the crap most other CZcams influencers make us listen to.
My birthday is February 1970, that's crazy you have record's older than me that's in that good a shape! Sidenote, you have an absolutely gorgeous home!😊
Nice job Mazzy...the only recommendation I would make for your listening room..... switching from the 25 Foot Lufkin Orange measuring Tape to the 25 Foot Yellow model..this will give you more ambiance and less siblance in your listening room between your speakers and ultimately will allow more air between the instruments 🤣😂🤣😂 This was how a shootout should be...honest, reflective and straight to the point....not the usual mumbo jumbo technical BS that people usually spew on these videos...that most don't understand or comprehend...including the person talking!!! Cheers🍸
Shoot out, like the old west! Thanks for the continuous great videos. Also, want to mention regarding the masterpiece first side of Finley Quaye’s first album Maverick A Strike, his second album Vanguard is also worth knowing about. And then, like Beck, he totally switched directions and did somewhat of an alternative Pop rock album, not my preferable style of music but wow, its a beautiful, unique and well done album titled “much more than much love” Wanted to mention it because I feel like you’ll really enjoy much more than much love, Finley is quite the hidden gem
I think your comment on expectations is really the heart of the matter. The very nature of a vinyl shootout sets up that very scenario. Honestly, anyone should be able to quickly tell this UHQR sounds different than any previous version, including the $30 digital. While it defies “Logic” in some ways, it does (when listened to on its own) present a more compelling listen that I expected once I got past the shock of it. The key question remains why this “smooth” approach was selected…it was not the tape quality or a mistake. Something had to be less gratifying with delivering it “as expected”. I am in search of that answer .
+1 on that Electric Ladyland - that's the Hendrix record that I want to hear "everything" as you say ... If it was on the Master, I want to hear it. Back when you were an under assistant west coast promo man 😎 I was working in a small recording studio in New England and generally if we mixed it onto the Master, it was intended to be heard and now that you and I have more worthy systems, I want to hear them again proper - because it's the music. By the way, the tape measure bit is *hilarious!* Outstanding video Mazzy
Onya Mazzi for actually saying it. Some titles that are being reprinted on any of the newer “quality sound” formats really don’t need to have to be remastered to hear every detail. Some rock albums will always sound best on the version you first heard it on, and the one you have kept because you deeply love it. No need for any more detail. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Oz
Thank you for another great video. Wanted to congratulate you for the balance you have between the audio equipment and the music. I think you have it right…music comes first! But is nice to have a good audio rig to extract the most from your medium. You do have a very good audio rig.
Good Video! I agree 100%. On all my Acoustic Sounds pressings including UHQR's they all have a lot of surface noise! Even cleaned on a Klaudio machine! A huge difference when they use RTI for some of their pressings, dead quiet!
Sometimes, I feel out of touch because of what I like. I hear everyone, all the folks I listen to, praise certain albums and I get why they like them and such. And it's not that I DON'T like those albums, they may not be the ones I reach for when I want to listen to a certain artist. For me, I will reach for Pretzel Logic many times before I do Aja. I should be shot, I know. I LOVE AJA …seriously I do. Pretzel Logic though....there is just something about it that brings me back to a "place" in my life. And, to me, it's just as much an amazing album as Aja is. I feel the same way about Pink Floyd's Animals. LOVE Pink Floyd. Love Dark Side, and the Wall and everything else...Animals puts me in a place...a space from my past. Anyway, thanks Mazzy for all you do!
...so I had my Mazzy T-Shirt on here in Eastern Tennessee this morning. The looks I got by the 2 people who asked about it was priceless. I did tell them that Mazzy loves them!--JG
Brilliant video. I love the fact you are so honest with your opinions which is not the case with a lot of other, so called audiophile channels. In particular, MOFI deceived their customers deliberately which is unforgivable in a retail environment. Some channels get freebies from MOFI, who then 'review ' these records and the integrity of those reviews is compromised completely. Its unfortunate as I am sure some of these records do sound good but who do you believe. You are 100% correct on the one step and UHQR boxes, they are awful. Anyway. Keep up the good work. I am a long time subscriber, I dont always agree with you but you are always entertaining!
Not owned UHQR myself but cleaned some. Have some AP that I love. All I know my OG USA press of AJA is astounding. I cleaned it up this year. It has minimal spindle wear. It's a great LP. My Preztel Logic is most likely an EU copy. Need to revisit it.
Thanks for the video, Mr. Maslov! I’m sort of with you; typically, the OG copy (or as close to it that’s financially or logistically possible) is for me my go-to preferred version, with notable exceptions like L.A.M.F. or the original CD version of Yes’s Fragile (where Joe Gastwirt’s redux is an amazing improvement, no shame whatsoever to Barry Diament). For the MoFi One Steps, I have done a shootout between my OG Atlantic Fragile (1841 B’way) and the MoFi. I have to say, even though the OneStep was quieter, it was also more, shall we say, sonically “polite”. Even though some audiophiles like their prog rock to come with their tea-party manners intact, something tells me that the band’s original intention was something a bit more aggressive than that. I also heard the OneStep version of Fagen’s The Nightfly; even though I was blown away by it, I pretty much get blown away with that album when I hear my own stock-copy WB CD as well. Also, we didn’t have an original WB LP for sake of comparison. There are times that I have indeed splurged for the premium MoFi (or otherwise) version of a given title and have been glad that I did (usually when I’ve been initially dissatisfied with the standard version). Other times, the MoFi “bump” hasn’t justified the premium price. At the end of the day, to reiterate your original point, we each have to form our own opinions and choose accordingly.
I laughed out loud when I saw where you store your boxes- is that where you keep your copy of the Ark of the Covenant, too? Just be careful when you open what you've got in there! BTW, this is a great video, full of wise perspective on the primacy of the music, the need to judge by one's own tastes, & so on. You bring a great deal of sanity to this hobby.
@@mazzysmusic It’s been awhile since I heard this album. Have you ever noticed how plastic and organic your perception of an album is after not listening to it for a period of time? Of course, the musical composition is wonderful but, it’s what you expect from Steely Dan; that jazz rock fusion sound of the seventies. This time around, I’m more impressed by the lyrics; simple yet complex in themes; sounds a lot like what I would imagine medieval german troubadours might sound like (the goliard)…mundane, experiential, worldly. Certainly contrasts with it’s counterpart musical sophistication. If Cine Noir had a sound, I could perfectly envision it as a Fagen-Becker composition. I was more a fan of Aja but, so glad I’ve revisited Pretzel Logic. Always been interested in Steely Dan (any “group” that has featured Larry Carlton and the great Wayne Shorter has to be heard).
I like the picture of your storage facility Mazzy lol. I started watching somebody's "albums that sound amazing on vinyl" top 10 the other day. I don't think they are the type of people that would be aware of this but most of the albums they mentioned ( Thriller, Daft Punk- Discovery etc) sound amazing whatever format they are on. My vinyl copies of Thriller and discovery do sound better than most of my other records but I have them on CD as well and they are also far better sounding than most other CD's in my collection. With those 2 examples it's in the genius production, Thriller sounds like Jones took each beat out to dinner and wined and dined it and popped it back in as the best beat in the world. I get that regardless of the format I'm listening to it on. I hope you're well Mazzy
Interesting video…I did have my eye on the What’s Going On Mo-Fi a few years ago…but splitting it over 4 sides seemed sagrilege to me! Never was a fan of albums on 45rpm either…especially with a manual speed turntable…so ended up buying a Technics…to just let me get on with playing and enjoying the music.
I have a black label ABC in VG to VG+ which I upgraded for condition, but the NM copy I found happens to be a yellow label 74 Repress. Then I got the 45 this week. The yellow is the brightest, maybe a little too bright, but because of condition that's the one I always played until I got the 45. The black label was balanced on the high end and the 45 got the prize for overall clarity and low end. From now on, I will likely go with the 45 when I listen to it. I don't know if it's worth $150 compared to $80 for a NM Black Label or $40 for a NM Yellow Label... I've decided to get 3 UHQR Steely Dans. Can't Buy a Thrill is head and shoulders above the original for me. Hopefully Aja will be a home run too. Maybe if I let FOMO take over I might buy Katy Lied as well. Thanks as always for your videos!
Glad to hear your take on Thriller. Agree about the cr#p songs. I still think Off the Wall was way more definitive. I heard it at age 13...its been a stalwart for the era... was just about to start high-school.
Always enjoy your videos. I must admit I don’t have any Steely Dan albums. I don’t know why. I guess it wasn’t my bailiwick. Maybe I’ll give them another chance.
Appreciate the shoot out Mazi. I agree with you 100% on the over-bloated packaging, slim it down and drop the sale price ;) As for Pretzel Logic, I've appreciated it digitally for a long time, I've never found a decent OG or early pressing unfortunately that wasn't beat to crap, so when the UHQR came along, I figured, WTF. Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, I'm sure with no point of comparison I'll enjoy it, but I think that feeds into your point. When it's something you know inside out and go the "premium" route, expectations will always be a huge factor.
Re : the "shrill" Pretzel Logic.....nope, bought it on first release and it was smooth, not harsh at all. Then picked up the complete box set around 82-83 and played it yesterday, again totally fine. Can't imagine what sort of system produces the shrillness those folks heard...
Love the Satie. I have heard it pronounced like jimponadee (soft j) 🙂. I agree with you about 33 vs 45rpm but the 45 KOB is seriously better SQ wise- - the hi hat is in the room like no other recording i've heard. Musically I prefer the MOFI 45 KOB mix. Bob Marley Legend is a super budget buy. I agree standard black vinyl is perfect if done well. A lot of the AP's from the 90's were and remain amongst my faves, although I now realise many were on supervinyl so there is something to it.
Beautiful tour. Thanks, Mazzy. However you neglected to show the construction crane supporting that monster cartridge for that futuristic turntable. Far out, man.
Good call storing boxes offsite! I’m out of space in my tiny room…and the mofi and uhqr take up one full shelf. Time to store…until the kids move out anyways.
Great video Massy.Very subjective and honest.Thank you.BTW,how is the humminguru?Any update on its performance?I am planning to buy one and I just want to hear your verdict.God bless.
I worked at a music store as a 2nd job while I lived in Florida. One day these two guys come in and tell me someone famous is coming to our store. They would not tell me who but they said this person jammed with Hendrix. In a few minutes in walks Jeff "Skunk" Baxter and then I knew he was a session guitarist who played with the Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan. I treated him with good customer service and like all our customers. Maybe they wanted to help his ego, I waiting on famous people or seen them out in public so meeting Bags was just another day.
Very cool video Mazzy. Did you know that the 16 track recorder was originally designed for video? I do agree with you on some of these reissues sounding too detailed. Take care.
I love Steely Dan, I’ve ordered all the UHQR Steely Dan records. I have a combo of new reissues and used copies of the catalog. I just have to have the UHQR’s for this band. However, I didn’t use a Lufkin tape measure to set up my speakers. Lol.
Outstanding comparisons Mazzy I haven’t bought any of the Steely Dan UHQR I’m waiting for Aja people says to me it’s overrated I remembered hearing it as a kid I really dig that record. As far as the One step I only have one now Charles Mingus Ah Um . I was at a friend house and heard the Thriller one step I wasn’t impressed your right the boxes are to big for the shelves
Thanks for sharing Mazzy; did you get that turntable in Gig Harbour? I have a recommendation to improve the performance of your system. That is: pull your speakers away from the wall behind them at least another foot, this will minimize the reflection of sound off the back wall thus muddying the sound; costs nothing to give it a try.
I have that Blood Sweat & Tears One-Step and it does sound fabulous! I expect Stunty will be poking fun at your French accent on a future stream! haha, Cheers
Great vid, Mazzy. It was nice to have a “review / comparison” vid of some of these higher end pressings, but cutting through a lot of the unnecessary nonsense usually involved. It seems like these “audiophile” titles (or all pressings for that matter) should be taken on a case by case basis, as they’re not always better, but rather oftentimes different instead. The MoFi, AP, or whatever pressings I’ve got are interesting alternatives to an original and oftentimes sound fantastic. That said, I do usually prefer my originals. Appreciate you and this vid. Thanks, Mazzy.
I don’t store my UHQR’s in the case they come in, too much fap. I keep all the boxes together but separate from the records. My Pretzel Logic was noisy, crackles and pops until I cleaned it
Your Aja is AB 1006 pressing, the first and best, there are AB with the B scratched out and an A written that is an AB but got renumbered when the price went up with the success of the album. a pristine AB sounds 3D.
I’ve heard the Pretzel Logic UHQR didn’t have the premium sound quality expected. Now with that said I’m told it’s what Chad Kassem desired while being presented with the reviews of sound quality. Does that make it better to listen too? I’ve heard yes it’s supposed to sound like that? I also feel maybe some records sound can be over digitized if that makes sense just a little too hot? I have the Elvis in Memphis Mofi one step. I was blown away while listening to it at the record store but seems a little too hot on my system. As far as the boxes I do like them Lol just can’t find a protective case for them? Thank You
Neutered You nailed it Mazzy I hear some wonderful intermentation in places, real body to some instruments but the lower midrange sounds completely muddy - unlistenable
Hi Massy, this is not a comment on your video, per say, except that while watching it I realized you have the same house as my wife and I do. I can tell the dimensions of yours is larger, but it's the same house. My stereo room is downstairs below my living room. Just an observation😊 BTW, great video and I agree with you 100% on the over packaging crap. It's the music... Right?
Yeah it’s a common split level design from the late 60s through the mid 80s. There’s a bunch of them in the Pacific NW and they all have the basic plan by with slightly different configurations. Mine was opened up in the main room, getting rid of the small walled in kitchen. ✌🏼
On (my) vintage solid state and tube McIntosh electronics, and either Vandersteen 2c or Ohm Walsh 2 speakers, 'Pretzel Logic' on either ABC or MCA vinyl is not bright/shrill. And (no) there is no vintage MFSL "UHQR" of 'Abbey Road': they only did 'Sgt Pepper', 'I Robot', 'Finger Paintings', 'Tea for The Tillerman', 'Crime of the Century' and 'DSOTM' (plus two classical titles).
I understand what you’re saying about the Mofi and UHQR boxes. On a purely functional level, a single record cover or gatefold takes up a lot less room and is less expensive. But we’re not only talking about function here but also esthetics which is important to some of us. The Mofi, I agree is not only needlessly complicated but quite annoying to remove the records amidst all that cardboard. So functionally it’s a failure. And the esthetics are nothing special either. The UHQR, on the other hand, I think is appealing both functionally and esthetically. The outer boxes are quite appealing esthetically, easy to open and access the records. Unlike the Mofi, the records have their own gatefold, beautifully done.Yes they take up more room but they’re designed as a premium product which sets them apart from the usual releases. Certainly Chad couldn’t charge $100 or $150 for regular jackets, even with the special vinyl formula. Call me superficial but I happen to like these boxes. When I take them off the shelf, I feel I’m holding a premium product in my hands, something special. Is part of the appeal the fact that it’s expensive? Probably. Some people like expensive watches. I’ll take a UHQR any day.
Nice take on these. Yeah, I understand a lot of folks like the boxes and that’s cool. Thanks for sharing. It just seem unnecessary. I love simply holding a wonderful printed cover; which Chad does beautifully ✌🏼
Mazzy - Not to belabor this but you’re right- it’s not NECESSARY! But maybe we should ask ourselves “in whose eyes?” Are $10,000 watches necessary when a $30 one will tell the time just as well? Are $150 ties necessary when you can buy a very presentable one for $20? Are $50,000 turntables necessary when you can get very close to the same sound for $2000? Of course not! But we all like different things for different reasons. What one person may love may seem ridiculous to another. It’s big world. We all perceive things differently and everyone’s entitled to their point of view.
I've always been a huge Steely Dan fan right from 1973 and Can't buy a Trill. I bought the first two UHQRs and was very pleased with them. I was going to buy them all but with this and other reviews I've seen, I don't think so. Boy Chad better get the next one right because Aja was their crowning jewel and if he doesn't, he's going to piss an awful lot of people off.
Hey man I have to copies of “La Lógica del Biscocho” , “Pretzel Logic”one from Argentina and the other one from Uruguay, they are both from the year was release, booth sound pretty bad they sound flat and have no hi tones. I like pretty much this album. I was wondering if an American press will sound better let me know and I can send you pics of them or videos. Great show and channel I learn a lot from you and got a lot of new records and artist thanks to your show! Cheers from Argentina! Pablo!!
I don't understand what all the fuss is about (but maybe I do). I played my Pretzel Logic UHQR this morning and I thought it sounded great. I also have an original black label ABC pressing which has always sounded very good as well as the yellow label ABC repress and even the MCA Coral label repress. Whether or not the price of the UHQR is "worth it" is up to each individual to decide. I suspect all the whining about this UHQR pressing has more to do with the VC herd mentality than anything else. One self proclaimed "expert" produces a video slamming Chad and A.P. for the release and all the other VC lemmings pile on because they want to be liked by their "peers". I'll put my faith in Chad Kassem and the rest of the true experts at A.P. every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Keep up the good work, Chad and bring on Aja!
Yeah that not a thing here. A friend and I listened together. It was a mutual opinion to us in my room. Not based on any other review or post. And I praised several other of Chads titles which are excellent.
I am not a "self-proclaimed" expert. I am an expert. Your "herd mentality" comment indicates your mentality. I hold your opinion in high regard. I hold the opinions of those who did not like this PL in equally high regard. Your charge that those who didn't like it are "followers" is truly condescending and shows your "mentality". Have a nice day.
Mr. Fremer, well thank you for standing up and calling attention to yourself by reminding us that you are an expert. Yes, indeed! How could we ever forget? Such an interesting reply. Firstly, how does my comment on "herd mentality" reflect back on me when I'm opposing the opinions of the "Collective"? Secondly, I certainly don't recall seeing a video that you posted reviewing the A.P. Pretzel Logic - positively or negatively on the UHQR. Nor do I recall singling you out in my posted comment. So I don't understand why you're acting as if this was an attack on you. Or maybe you feel you have to rush to the herd's defense because I posted a comment that wasn't exactly "Kumbaya". I also don't remember seeing a video by any of these self-proclaimed experts where they invited in Chad Kassem and asked him "Gosh Chad, what went wrong with PL? We think it's terrible!" Has it happened? Where's the bravery? @@trackingangle929
I have yet to hear a bad recorded Steely Dan album. Apart from their music, this is what I like about them. I was a bit disappointed by the Analog Production's version of Everything Must Go. For such an expensive release I expect premium records. But my copy has a few spots in the records with apparent surface noise. I do have about half of their albums on CD and they all sound very good.
It’s a Rancillio. Italian semi commercial. It was a part of our photo studio in SF. Overkill for home use but I love it. And has a plumbed in water line 😎
I downloaded the hi-rez files for the first three albums. The bass is way too loud and wooly and the treble seems rolled off, even with my Maggies. No thanks, I'll stick to my old LP copies.
Hey Mazzy, l just wanted too tell you that you made a mistake that the Easybeats were an Australian band not a Pommy (British) band just to clear that up for you. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
I would like to find a nice copy of the original quad mix ABC LP. They did quads of the first first Steely albums, the mixes are different than the common mixes. I have the quad LP of Can't Buy A Thrill. Wish they would re-release the Dallas/Sail the Waterway single, maybe as a RSD exclusive. Cool Beatles pics from the now defunct Look magazine, I believe Stanley Kubrick did photos for Look before becoming a director, he also could play drums.
Very interesting. Thank you. Unfortunately the supply of original pressings in good condition has dried up, for many good artists. I started collecting in early 1970s but unfortunately lost the collection and in my youth didn't have the insight, which is common. So music lovers and record lovers these days are stuck with re-pressings. Berkeley California Amoeba Records. Original 'Cant Buy A Thrill' ABC label in "good" condition, they wanted $50 for what was a $5 - $7 record when it first came out. Then the best tracks are worn out, fidelity shot, because whoever owned it played the hell out of it.
I have three separate systems, in my mobile home. Yes a little overkill, indeed, but my gear is rather inexpensive as it fits my limited budget. One of them is a vintage Pioneer SX-780 receiver with a UTurn turntable, and Pioneer DVD player; one is a Reisong A-10 tube amp with a Technics SL 1200MK2 and the same model Pioneer dvd player; the third one is a modern audio/video receiver which is used mostly to watch tv. As far as those mobile fidelity records I have two. The Beatles’ “Sgt. Pepper” & “Let It Be”. The Sgt Pepper always sounded lousy. I’ll stick with listening to the originals I do have both vinyl and CD copies of “Pretzel Logic”, and it’s hard to pick a favorite. Believe it or not I got a reissue of “Kind of Blue” at Walmart brand new and it sounds fantastic. Love your channel. Cheers!
I'm sorry but you brought it up. MoFi did not tell any lies in any of their promotional material. The flyer you held up and said was a lie was an accurate description of the one step process vs. traditional three step plating.
In the last two years, I mostly bought only the originals, because in most cases they sound better, and they are much cheaper. Of the reissues, I mostly only buy Blue Note Classic and some of the Tone Poet releases.
I did read yours after I did mine. Turns out I totally agree . Someone loaned me their copy for two weeks. I don’t do technical reviews like you Michael. I share personal journeys of the music I’ve experienced, so the long first segment is just one of those journeys ✌🏼
True about level differences. But when you listen to two versions you might raise or lower the volume and it’s easy to tell which is more appealing to you. You hear and feel the music. It’s nit science with graphs and DR numbers ✌🏼
@@mazzysmusic actually there is a lot of science here. It's just often overlooked and it's a PIA to address correctly. As you raise or lower the level the perception of tonality is affected. It's what is known as the Fletcher Munsun curve. So as you raise or lower the volume you also change the tonality. Just a 3 db increase in level will make a recording sound brighter and bassier. You can take the exact same recording and compare it to itself at 1 db higher level and good chance in an A/B comparison the 1 db will sound *better* Not louder but subjectively better. Perceptual loudness is also frequency dependent. The same SPLs will sound louder or softer depending on the frequency of the sound. 90 db at 3kHz will sound very loud. 90 db at 20 hz will not sound loud at all. But they will both measure at 90 db SPL. Perceptual loudness is frequency dependent, perceptual loudness affects preferences and levels affect perceptual frequency balance. So such a casual approach to setting levels will give you a much higher degree of randomness in your results. Sometimes reality is not convenient.
Of all the ‘premium’ audiophile records, I think the Craft Small Batch come closest to getting it right. Slipcase, generally a decent and accurate reproduction of the original jacket and artwork, a small booklet that adds value, and a slightly lower price point than the UHQRs (albeit they’re cut at 33, not 45). The ones I have are immaculate and sound great. As an international customer, I also far prefer dealing with Craft. Truth be told, both MoFi and Acoustic Sounds offer appalling service to international customers.
I consider myself somewhat of a audiophile. I love most of my Mo Fi albums but I was very disappointed with Janis Joplin Pearl however Blonde on Blonde by Dylan sounds so much better than the original. As always, great video
Steely Dan was my favorite band of the 70's, and Pretzel Logic is a very good album, overall. But, at 33 minutes long, it's really short, even shorter than Katy Lied. What's there, is good, for the most part, but there's just not enough of it. Also, B&F should have given "With a Gun" to some other artist to record. Doesn't even sound like a SD song.
My ears (and beyond) are too old to waste time with this stuff, and I am younger than you, Maslov. Heck, am fine with a third press from France or Germany. What do people think? That owning stuff leads to eternal life or respect, or even happiness? Ha!
@@mazzysmusic My apologies you are right. And what a nice assembly. I only run a P6 with Hana SL and can imagine that you must be in sound heaven. No excuse, but just the truth: Watching this was 'After Midnight' my local time, being 'so tired ' haven't slept a wink with my mind on the blink, if this does make any sense.
Just for clarity (no pun intended) the $30 Universal version was cut by Alex Abrash at AA Mastering from a digital file supplied by Bernie Grundman. Great video Mazzy, you cut through the crap most other CZcams influencers make us listen to.
Yes. Thanks for the detail ✌🏻
My birthday is February 1970, that's crazy you have record's older than me that's in that good a shape! Sidenote, you have an absolutely gorgeous home!😊
I’m 100% with you on the inflated “value” nonsense packaging. Just give me a nice thick gatefold and a few extras.
Nice job Mazzy...the only recommendation I would make for your listening room..... switching from the 25 Foot Lufkin Orange measuring Tape to the 25 Foot Yellow model..this will give you more ambiance and less siblance in your listening room between your speakers and ultimately will allow more air between the instruments 🤣😂🤣😂
This was how a shootout should be...honest, reflective and straight to the point....not the usual mumbo jumbo technical BS that people usually spew on these videos...that most don't understand or comprehend...including the person talking!!!
Cheers🍸
Loved the special guest star (the tape measure) 😂
One of the best and balanced comparisons I have seen. Well done.
Shoot out, like the old west!
Thanks for the continuous great videos. Also, want to mention regarding the masterpiece first side of Finley Quaye’s first album Maverick A Strike, his second album Vanguard is also worth knowing about. And then, like Beck, he totally switched directions and did somewhat of an alternative Pop rock album, not my preferable style of music but wow, its a beautiful, unique and well done album titled “much more than much love”
Wanted to mention it because I feel like you’ll really enjoy much more than much love, Finley is quite the hidden gem
I think your comment on expectations is really the heart of the matter. The very nature of a vinyl shootout sets up that very scenario. Honestly, anyone should be able to quickly tell this UHQR sounds different than any previous version, including the $30 digital. While it defies “Logic” in some ways, it does (when listened to on its own) present a more compelling listen that I expected once I got past the shock of it. The key question remains why this “smooth” approach was selected…it was not the tape quality or a mistake. Something had to be less gratifying with delivering it “as expected”. I am in search of that answer .
I have been buying the Universal reissues and have been happy with them. Thanks again.
Do love that 1st BST as well.
And just to add. It was a great video. Opened my eyes and ears to yet more new music ❤
This was great. Nice work Mazzy
At last Mazzy provides his measuring tape specs. I can start taking him seriously now.😆
Exactly ✌🏼
+1 on that Electric Ladyland - that's the Hendrix record that I want to hear "everything" as you say ... If it was on the Master, I want to hear it. Back when you were an under assistant west coast promo man 😎 I was working in a small recording studio in New England and generally if we mixed it onto the Master, it was intended to be heard and now that you and I have more worthy systems, I want to hear them again proper - because it's the music. By the way, the tape measure bit is *hilarious!* Outstanding video Mazzy
Onya Mazzi for actually saying it. Some titles that are being reprinted on any of the newer “quality sound” formats really don’t need to have to be remastered to hear every detail. Some rock albums will always sound best on the version you first heard it on, and the one you have kept because you deeply love it. No need for any more detail. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Oz
Exactly ✌🏼
Thank you for another great video. Wanted to congratulate you for the balance you have between the audio equipment and the music. I think you have it right…music comes first! But is nice to have a good audio rig to extract the most from your medium. You do have a very good audio rig.
It’s what ever works for us. I like the balance ✌🏼
Listen for yourself.....as usual, Sage advice. Thanks Mazzy great insight.
Always!✌🏼
Great interesring, gladyou show that rig of yours, cheers again maz
I love that you promoted your tape measure.
It’s needs more love ✌🏼
Good Video! I agree 100%. On all my Acoustic Sounds pressings including UHQR's they all have a lot of surface noise! Even cleaned on a Klaudio machine! A huge difference when they use RTI for some of their pressings, dead quiet!
Sometimes, I feel out of touch because of what I like. I hear everyone, all the folks I listen to, praise certain albums and I get why they like them and such. And it's not that I DON'T like those albums, they may not be the ones I reach for when I want to listen to a certain artist. For me, I will reach for Pretzel Logic many times before I do Aja. I should be shot, I know. I LOVE AJA …seriously I do. Pretzel Logic though....there is just something about it that brings me back to a "place" in my life. And, to me, it's just as much an amazing album as Aja is. I feel the same way about Pink Floyd's Animals. LOVE Pink Floyd. Love Dark Side, and the Wall and everything else...Animals puts me in a place...a space from my past. Anyway, thanks Mazzy for all you do!
...so I had my Mazzy T-Shirt on here in Eastern Tennessee this morning. The looks I got by the 2 people who asked about it was priceless. I did tell them that Mazzy loves them!--JG
He does😎🤠
I have the original 1974 pressing of Pretzel Logic not a lot of miles on it and it still sounds great!
Brilliant video. I love the fact you are so honest with your opinions which is not the case with a lot of other, so called audiophile channels. In particular, MOFI deceived their customers deliberately which is unforgivable in a retail environment. Some channels get freebies from MOFI, who then 'review ' these records and the integrity of those reviews is compromised completely. Its unfortunate as I am sure some of these records do sound good but who do you believe. You are 100% correct on the one step and UHQR boxes, they are awful. Anyway. Keep up the good work. I am a long time subscriber, I dont always agree with you but you are always entertaining!
It would be weird if we always agreed ✌🏼
I LOLd when you flashed to the Raider’s warehouse photo. Perfect 👍
What raiders photo 🤷🏻♂️
Raiders of the Lost ark?
@@SDsailor7 yes, right?
That jacket is incredible
Luv the Girl Is Mine, Mazzy. Great tune and fun listen.
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Totally agree about the packaging, would probably cut the cost by half, great review
Not owned UHQR myself but cleaned some. Have some AP that I love. All I know my OG USA press of AJA is astounding. I cleaned it up this year. It has minimal spindle wear. It's a great LP. My Preztel Logic is most likely an EU copy. Need to revisit it.
Thanks mazzy! Great video
That George Harrison print is AWESOME!
The black & white is John all four fabs are in color. All taken by Richard Avedon ✌🏼
Thanks for the video, Mr. Maslov! I’m sort of with you; typically, the OG copy (or as close to it that’s financially or logistically possible) is for me my go-to preferred version, with notable exceptions like L.A.M.F. or the original CD version of Yes’s Fragile (where Joe Gastwirt’s redux is an amazing improvement, no shame whatsoever to Barry Diament). For the MoFi One Steps, I have done a shootout between my OG Atlantic Fragile (1841 B’way) and the MoFi. I have to say, even though the OneStep was quieter, it was also more, shall we say, sonically “polite”. Even though some audiophiles like their prog rock to come with their tea-party manners intact, something tells me that the band’s original intention was something a bit more aggressive than that. I also heard the OneStep version of Fagen’s The Nightfly; even though I was blown away by it, I pretty much get blown away with that album when I hear my own stock-copy WB CD as well. Also, we didn’t have an original WB LP for sake of comparison.
There are times that I have indeed splurged for the premium MoFi (or otherwise) version of a given title and have been glad that I did (usually when I’ve been initially dissatisfied with the standard version). Other times, the MoFi “bump” hasn’t justified the premium price. At the end of the day, to reiterate your original point, we each have to form our own opinions and choose accordingly.
Go Mazzy....Electric Ladyland is my favorite as well. PS>>I don't store my 33 KOB in that damn box either!! You rock!!
I laughed out loud when I saw where you store your boxes- is that where you keep your copy of the Ark of the Covenant, too? Just be careful when you open what you've got in there! BTW, this is a great video, full of wise perspective on the primacy of the music, the need to judge by one's own tastes, & so on. You bring a great deal of sanity to this hobby.
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I have a humble MCA 1980 Pretzel Logic. Been trying to find info on that pressing but I really haven’t found that much. I love it.
If you love it that’s all that matters ✌🏼
@@mazzysmusic It’s been awhile since I heard this album. Have you ever noticed how plastic and organic your perception of an album is after not listening to it for a period of time? Of course, the musical composition is wonderful but, it’s what you expect from Steely Dan; that jazz rock fusion sound of the seventies. This time around, I’m more impressed by the lyrics; simple yet complex in themes; sounds a lot like what I would imagine medieval german troubadours might sound like (the goliard)…mundane, experiential, worldly. Certainly contrasts with it’s counterpart musical sophistication. If Cine Noir had a sound, I could perfectly envision it as a Fagen-Becker composition. I was more a fan of Aja but, so glad I’ve revisited Pretzel Logic. Always been interested in Steely Dan (any “group” that has featured Larry Carlton and the great Wayne Shorter has to be heard).
You could improve your sound a bit when using an audiophile measure tape, a small investment for a big improvement 🙂
I thought I had one 🤷🏻♂️
I like the picture of your storage facility Mazzy lol. I started watching somebody's "albums that sound amazing on vinyl" top 10 the other day. I don't think they are the type of people that would be aware of this but most of the albums they mentioned ( Thriller, Daft Punk- Discovery etc) sound amazing whatever format they are on. My vinyl copies of Thriller and discovery do sound better than most of my other records but I have them on CD as well and they are also far better sounding than most other CD's in my collection. With those 2 examples it's in the genius production, Thriller sounds like Jones took each beat out to dinner and wined and dined it and popped it back in as the best beat in the world. I get that regardless of the format I'm listening to it on. I hope you're well Mazzy
Great sounding records My storage facility is a luxury ✌🏼
Interesting video…I did have my eye on the What’s Going On Mo-Fi a few years ago…but splitting it over 4 sides seemed sagrilege to me! Never was a fan of albums on 45rpm either…especially with a manual speed turntable…so ended up buying a Technics…to just let me get on with playing and enjoying the music.
Pretzel Logic is my fave..
Happy the goatee is making a comeback !
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I have a black label ABC in VG to VG+ which I upgraded for condition, but the NM copy I found happens to be a yellow label 74 Repress. Then I got the 45 this week. The yellow is the brightest, maybe a little too bright, but because of condition that's the one I always played until I got the 45. The black label was balanced on the high end and the 45 got the prize for overall clarity and low end. From now on, I will likely go with the 45 when I listen to it. I don't know if it's worth $150 compared to $80 for a NM Black Label or $40 for a NM Yellow Label... I've decided to get 3 UHQR Steely Dans. Can't Buy a Thrill is head and shoulders above the original for me. Hopefully Aja will be a home run too. Maybe if I let FOMO take over I might buy Katy Lied as well. Thanks as always for your videos!
Glad to hear your take on Thriller. Agree about the cr#p songs. I still think Off the Wall was way more definitive. I heard it at age 13...its been a stalwart for the era... was just about to start high-school.
Always enjoy your videos. I must admit I don’t have any Steely Dan albums. I don’t know why. I guess it wasn’t my bailiwick. Maybe I’ll give them another chance.
Appreciate the shoot out Mazi. I agree with you 100% on the over-bloated packaging, slim it down and drop the sale price ;) As for Pretzel Logic, I've appreciated it digitally for a long time, I've never found a decent OG or early pressing unfortunately that wasn't beat to crap, so when the UHQR came along, I figured, WTF. Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, I'm sure with no point of comparison I'll enjoy it, but I think that feeds into your point. When it's something you know inside out and go the "premium" route, expectations will always be a huge factor.
Hope you enjoy it. Maybe you will. Let us know ✌🏼
Re : the "shrill" Pretzel Logic.....nope, bought it on first release and it was smooth, not harsh at all. Then picked up the complete box set around 82-83 and played it yesterday, again totally fine. Can't imagine what sort of system produces the shrillness those folks heard...
Love the Satie. I have heard it pronounced like jimponadee (soft j) 🙂.
I agree with you about 33 vs 45rpm but the 45 KOB is seriously better SQ wise- - the hi hat is in the room like no other recording i've heard. Musically I prefer the MOFI 45 KOB mix.
Bob Marley Legend is a super budget buy.
I agree standard black vinyl is perfect if done well. A lot of the AP's from the 90's were and remain amongst my faves, although I now realise many were on supervinyl so there is something to it.
Beautiful tour. Thanks, Mazzy. However you neglected to show the construction crane supporting that monster cartridge for that futuristic turntable. Far out, man.
Good call storing boxes offsite! I’m out of space in my tiny room…and the mofi and uhqr take up one full shelf. Time to store…until the kids move out anyways.
16” back on shelf… time to head to silver platters
Honesty made fun.
I certainly hope so. If we can’t have fun and smile, why bother, I say ✌🏼
Great video Massy.Very subjective and honest.Thank you.BTW,how is the humminguru?Any update on its performance?I am planning to buy one and I just want to hear your verdict.God bless.
The humming guru and been great. I only do older once’s as I pull them out. Only a had few new once that had issues.
great segment. love Steely Dan but cannot justify the UHQRs for them because I am not an audiophile.
The UMG's get you 80% of the way there. The first 2 were outstanding.
I worked at a music store as a 2nd job while I lived in Florida. One day these two guys come in and tell me someone famous is coming to our store. They would not tell me who but they said this person jammed with Hendrix. In a few minutes in walks Jeff "Skunk" Baxter and then I knew he was a session guitarist who played with the Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan. I treated him with good customer service and like all our customers. Maybe they wanted to help his ego, I waiting on famous people or seen them out in public so meeting Bags was just another day.
Very cool video Mazzy. Did you know that the 16 track recorder was originally designed for video? I do agree with you on some of these reissues sounding too detailed. Take care.
I didn’t know that about the 16 track 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for Mazzy InfoMart coming soon to a Retailer in your Area
My fave acoustic sounds is the 45 double live Ricky Lee Jones... where ironically she covers the Dan.
That is a stunner ✌🏼
@@mazzysmusic I knew we both had a passion for that press. It's probably up there as a live LP for me with Waitin' For Columbus
I love Steely Dan, I’ve ordered all the UHQR Steely Dan records. I have a combo of new reissues and used copies of the catalog. I just have to have the UHQR’s for this band. However, I didn’t use a Lufkin tape measure to set up my speakers. Lol.
Enjoy whatever you have and what measures up ✌🏼
Outstanding comparisons Mazzy I haven’t bought any of the Steely Dan UHQR I’m waiting for Aja people says to me it’s overrated I remembered hearing it as a kid I really dig that record. As far as the One step I only have one now Charles Mingus Ah Um . I was at a friend house and heard the Thriller one step I wasn’t impressed your right the boxes are to big for the shelves
Thanks for sharing Mazzy; did you get that turntable in Gig Harbour? I have a recommendation to improve the performance of your system. That is: pull your speakers away from the wall behind them at least another foot, this will minimize the reflection of sound off the back wall thus muddying the sound; costs nothing to give it a try.
I still need to set up the new one. My speakers are just shy of three feet out from the wall
Yes, that should be good; in the photos they looked closer.
Royal Scam for me and memories of a sweltering '76 summer.
Yup! It came out around memorial day I believe. ? No shoes , no shirt , riding around all day and night in my 65 Chevy Malibu!
Does Noel Redding say “Son of Sam” on Purple Haze? 😮
I have that Blood Sweat & Tears One-Step and it does sound fabulous! I expect Stunty will be poking fun at your French accent on a future stream! haha, Cheers
Yeah I totally butchered it, naked dancers and all. 🤓🥸😎
Great vid, Mazzy. It was nice to have a “review / comparison” vid of some of these higher end pressings, but cutting through a lot of the unnecessary nonsense usually involved. It seems like these “audiophile” titles (or all pressings for that matter) should be taken on a case by case basis, as they’re not always better, but rather oftentimes different instead. The MoFi, AP, or whatever pressings I’ve got are interesting alternatives to an original and oftentimes sound fantastic. That said, I do usually prefer my originals. Appreciate you and this vid. Thanks, Mazzy.
Good morning and Thank you Nick. I do enjoy an occasional shootout in my own way. OG or Reissues. It all depends. And I have to lay a foundation ✌🏼
I don’t store my UHQR’s in the case they come in, too much fap. I keep all the boxes together but separate from the records. My Pretzel Logic was noisy, crackles and pops until I cleaned it
The first record I bought was an ABC Steely Dan Can’t Buy A Thrill
Your Aja is AB 1006 pressing, the first and best, there are AB with the B scratched out and an A written that is an AB but got renumbered when the price went up with the success of the album.
a pristine AB sounds 3D.
Yes thank you for posting ✌🏼
I’ve heard the Pretzel Logic UHQR didn’t have the premium sound quality expected. Now with that said I’m told it’s what Chad Kassem desired while being presented with the reviews of sound quality. Does that make it better to listen too? I’ve heard yes it’s supposed to sound like that? I also feel maybe some records sound can be over digitized if that makes sense just a little too hot? I have the Elvis in Memphis Mofi one step. I was blown away while listening to it at the record store but seems a little too hot on my system. As far as the boxes I do like them Lol just can’t find a protective case for them? Thank You
They say that the boxes protect the record. And of course that’s true. So why do you need to protect the box 🥸🤓😆
It’s a collectors thing we need to display the Holy Grail Lol
Neutered
You nailed it Mazzy
I hear some wonderful intermentation in places, real body to some instruments but the lower midrange sounds completely muddy - unlistenable
Too bad. Right ?
Hi Massy, this is not a comment on your video, per say, except that while watching it I realized you have the same house as my wife and I do. I can tell the dimensions of yours is larger, but it's the same house. My stereo room is downstairs below my living room. Just an observation😊
BTW, great video and I agree with you 100% on the over packaging crap. It's the music... Right?
Yeah it’s a common split level design from the late 60s through the mid 80s. There’s a bunch of them in the Pacific NW and they all have the basic plan by with slightly different configurations. Mine was opened up in the main room, getting rid of the small walled in kitchen. ✌🏼
@@mazzysmusic yes I did the same with ours in the early 2000's
On (my) vintage solid state and tube McIntosh electronics, and either Vandersteen 2c or Ohm Walsh 2 speakers, 'Pretzel Logic' on either ABC or MCA vinyl is not bright/shrill.
And (no) there is no vintage MFSL "UHQR" of 'Abbey Road': they only did 'Sgt Pepper', 'I Robot', 'Finger Paintings', 'Tea for The Tillerman', 'Crime of the Century' and 'DSOTM' (plus two classical titles).
I would like to have Lp of," Ghosts On The Road", by the great Eric Andersen
I understand what you’re saying about the Mofi and UHQR boxes. On a purely functional level, a single record cover or gatefold takes up a lot less room and is less expensive. But we’re not only talking about function here but also esthetics which is important to some of us. The Mofi, I agree is not only needlessly complicated but quite annoying to remove the records amidst all that cardboard. So functionally it’s a failure. And the esthetics are nothing special either. The UHQR, on the other hand, I think is appealing both functionally and esthetically. The outer boxes are quite appealing esthetically, easy to open and access the records. Unlike the Mofi, the records have their own gatefold, beautifully done.Yes they take up more room but they’re designed as a premium product which sets them apart from the usual releases. Certainly Chad couldn’t charge $100 or $150 for regular jackets, even with the special vinyl formula. Call me superficial but I happen to like these boxes. When I take them off the shelf, I feel I’m holding a premium product in my hands, something special. Is part of the appeal the fact that it’s expensive? Probably. Some people like expensive watches. I’ll take a UHQR any day.
Nice take on these. Yeah, I understand a lot of folks like the boxes and that’s cool. Thanks for sharing. It just seem unnecessary. I love simply holding a wonderful printed cover; which Chad does beautifully ✌🏼
Mazzy - Not to belabor this but you’re right- it’s not NECESSARY! But maybe we should ask ourselves “in whose eyes?” Are $10,000 watches necessary when a $30 one will tell the time just as well? Are $150 ties necessary when you can buy a very presentable one for $20? Are $50,000 turntables necessary when you can get very close to the same sound for $2000? Of course not! But we all like different things for different reasons. What one person may love may seem ridiculous to another. It’s big world. We all perceive things differently and everyone’s entitled to their point of view.
@@ericlubow4354 yeah agree.
I've always been a huge Steely Dan fan right from 1973 and Can't buy a Trill. I bought the first two UHQRs and was very pleased with them. I was going to buy them all but with this and other reviews I've seen, I don't think so. Boy Chad better get the next one right because Aja was their crowning jewel and if he doesn't, he's going to piss an awful lot of people off.
Safe and sound Texas channel, he has a different take on this after discussing it with Chad.
Thinking it's worth your while if you are on the fence.
The $30 UMG is a great way to decide on the UHQR. If you like the UMG you'll love the UHQR. You can't return the UHQR...
Hey man I have to copies of “La Lógica del Biscocho” , “Pretzel Logic”one from Argentina and the other one from Uruguay, they are both from the year was release, booth sound pretty bad they sound flat and have no hi tones.
I like pretty much this album.
I was wondering if an American press will sound better let me know and I can send you pics of them or videos.
Great show and channel I learn a lot from you and got a lot of new records and artist thanks to your show!
Cheers from Argentina!
Pablo!!
The us will sound better country of origin is a good rule of thumb ✌🏼
I don't understand what all the fuss is about (but maybe I do). I played my Pretzel Logic UHQR this morning and I thought it sounded great. I also have an original black label ABC pressing which has always sounded very good as well as the yellow label ABC repress and even the MCA Coral label repress. Whether or not the price of the UHQR is "worth it" is up to each individual to decide. I suspect all the whining about this UHQR pressing has more to do with the VC herd mentality than anything else. One self proclaimed "expert" produces a video slamming Chad and A.P. for the release and all the other VC lemmings pile on because they want to be liked by their "peers". I'll put my faith in Chad Kassem and the rest of the true experts at A.P. every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Keep up the good work, Chad and bring on Aja!
Yeah that not a thing here. A friend and I listened together. It was a mutual opinion to us in my room. Not based on any other review or post. And I praised several other of Chads titles which are excellent.
I am not a "self-proclaimed" expert. I am an expert. Your "herd mentality" comment indicates your mentality. I hold your opinion in high regard. I hold the opinions of those who did not like this PL in equally high regard. Your charge that those who didn't like it are "followers" is truly condescending and shows your "mentality". Have a nice day.
Mr. Fremer, well thank you for standing up and calling attention to yourself by reminding us that you are an expert. Yes, indeed! How could we ever forget? Such an interesting reply. Firstly, how does my comment on "herd mentality" reflect back on me when I'm opposing the opinions of the "Collective"? Secondly, I certainly don't recall seeing a video that you posted reviewing the A.P. Pretzel Logic - positively or negatively on the UHQR. Nor do I recall singling you out in my posted comment. So I don't understand why you're acting as if this was an attack on you. Or maybe you feel you have to rush to the herd's defense because I posted a comment that wasn't exactly "Kumbaya". I also don't remember seeing a video by any of these self-proclaimed experts where they invited in Chad Kassem and asked him "Gosh Chad, what went wrong with PL? We think it's terrible!" Has it happened? Where's the bravery? @@trackingangle929
I have yet to hear a bad recorded Steely Dan album. Apart from their music, this is what I like about them. I was a bit disappointed by the Analog Production's version of Everything Must Go. For such an expensive release I expect premium records. But my copy has a few spots in the records with apparent surface noise. I do have about half of their albums on CD and they all sound very good.
Being that prestige/moodsville isn't known for great sound, I just pre ordered Eastern sounds.
Fantastic albums
Mazzy,
What brand coffee maker do you own?
Mr. Pete--------->
aging hippie
It’s a Rancillio. Italian semi commercial. It was a part of our photo studio in SF. Overkill for home use but I love it. And has a plumbed in water line 😎
I downloaded the hi-rez files for the first three albums. The bass is way too loud and wooly and the treble seems rolled off, even with my Maggies. No thanks, I'll stick to my old LP copies.
Hey Mazzy, l just wanted too tell you that you made a mistake that the Easybeats were an Australian band not a Pommy (British) band just to clear that up for you.
Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
Yeah I blew it there and I knew it. Thank you ✌🏼
Mazzy. I own the ABC/DUNHILL version # abcd 808 brown label. Distributed by RCA. Do you know much about this version? Really good sound on my rig.
I do not. If you like it , that’s what matters.
I would like to find a nice copy of the original quad mix ABC LP.
They did quads of the first first Steely albums, the mixes are different than the common mixes.
I have the quad LP of Can't Buy A Thrill.
Wish they would re-release the Dallas/Sail the Waterway single, maybe as a RSD exclusive.
Cool Beatles pics from the now defunct Look magazine, I believe Stanley Kubrick did photos for Look before becoming a director, he also could play drums.
Yeah Kubrick was a greet photographer.
@@mazzysmusic Chess player too!
Very interesting. Thank you. Unfortunately the supply of original pressings in good condition has dried up, for many good artists. I started collecting in early 1970s but unfortunately lost the collection and in my youth didn't have the insight, which is common. So music lovers and record lovers these days are stuck with re-pressings. Berkeley California Amoeba Records. Original 'Cant Buy A Thrill' ABC label in "good" condition, they wanted $50 for what was a $5 - $7 record when it first came out. Then the best tracks are worn out, fidelity shot, because whoever owned it played the hell out of it.
I have three separate systems, in my mobile home. Yes a little overkill, indeed, but my gear is rather inexpensive as it fits my limited budget.
One of them is a vintage Pioneer SX-780 receiver with a UTurn turntable, and Pioneer DVD player; one is a Reisong A-10 tube amp with a Technics SL 1200MK2 and the same model Pioneer dvd player; the third one is a modern audio/video receiver which is used mostly to watch tv.
As far as those mobile fidelity records I have two. The Beatles’ “Sgt. Pepper” & “Let It Be”. The Sgt Pepper always sounded lousy. I’ll stick with listening to the originals I do have both vinyl and CD copies of “Pretzel Logic”, and it’s hard to pick a favorite.
Believe it or not I got a reissue of “Kind of Blue” at Walmart brand new and it sounds fantastic.
Love your channel.
Cheers!
Wow 🤷🏻♂️
I'm sorry but you brought it up. MoFi did not tell any lies in any of their promotional material. The flyer you held up and said was a lie was an accurate description of the one step process vs. traditional three step plating.
In the last two years, I mostly bought only the originals, because in most cases they sound better, and they are much cheaper. Of the reissues, I mostly only buy Blue Note Classic and some of the Tone Poet releases.
It's possible that Chad intended Pretzel Logic UHRQ to be the low-sodium version for us aging rockers. Just a thought.
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Did you got the P8? ... I did recently got one
Yes but not set up set ✌🏼✌🏼
P8 and Hana is a nice combo.
@@mazzysmusic Great !
@@thebuxtstopshere I recently got that combo , waiting the Hana to crack
I reviewed the UHQR "Pretzel Logic" Mazzy and got to the point in about two minutes. It's not a good UHQR.
I did read yours after I did mine. Turns out I totally agree . Someone loaned me their copy for two weeks. I don’t do technical reviews like you Michael. I share personal journeys of the music I’ve experienced, so the long first segment is just one of those journeys ✌🏼
Sounds like you decided to stick with your older turntable and not replace with the new Rega P8...
I got the P8 haven’t got a cart it hooked it up. My RP8 is going to a friend
Unfortunately doing a really good shoot out is tricky. Level differences can dominate the preference. And actual level matching is impossible.
True about level differences. But when you listen to two versions you might raise or lower the volume and it’s easy to tell which is more appealing to you. You hear and feel the music. It’s nit science with graphs and DR numbers ✌🏼
@@mazzysmusic actually there is a lot of science here. It's just often overlooked and it's a PIA to address correctly. As you raise or lower the level the perception of tonality is affected. It's what is known as the Fletcher Munsun curve. So as you raise or lower the volume you also change the tonality. Just a 3 db increase in level will make a recording sound brighter and bassier. You can take the exact same recording and compare it to itself at 1 db higher level and good chance in an A/B comparison the 1 db will sound *better* Not louder but subjectively better. Perceptual loudness is also frequency dependent. The same SPLs will sound louder or softer depending on the frequency of the sound. 90 db at 3kHz will sound very loud. 90 db at 20 hz will not sound loud at all. But they will both measure at 90 db SPL. Perceptual loudness is frequency dependent, perceptual loudness affects preferences and levels affect perceptual frequency balance. So such a casual approach to setting levels will give you a much higher degree of randomness in your results. Sometimes reality is not convenient.
Of all the ‘premium’ audiophile records, I think the Craft Small Batch come closest to getting it right. Slipcase, generally a decent and accurate reproduction of the original jacket and artwork, a small booklet that adds value, and a slightly lower price point than the UHQRs (albeit they’re cut at 33, not 45). The ones I have are immaculate and sound great. As an international customer, I also far prefer dealing with Craft. Truth be told, both MoFi and Acoustic Sounds offer appalling service to international customers.
I consider myself somewhat of a audiophile. I love most of my Mo Fi albums but I was very disappointed with Janis Joplin Pearl however Blonde on Blonde by Dylan sounds so much better than the original. As always, great video
Haven’t heard that Janis but I’ve been told the same. And yes on Dylan
Pretzel Logic a $150 record and here in the U.K. £230...NOT FAIR.
You can buy from the ingroove in Arizona, shipped including uk taxes for under £200
That’s crazy. ✌🏼
no Love Supreme 45 rom UHQR?
I’m not ordering it. I’m satisfied w my 33s.
just kidding---me too!
Steely Dan was my favorite band of the 70's, and Pretzel Logic is a very good album, overall. But, at 33 minutes long, it's really short, even shorter than Katy Lied. What's there, is good, for the most part, but there's just not enough of it. Also, B&F should have given "With a Gun" to some other artist to record. Doesn't even sound like a SD song.
Short and sweet. Doesn’t wear out it’s welcome ✌🏼
Who Knows? Song by Jimi Hendrix from Band Of Gypsies. Well Band Of Romas 😆
My ears (and beyond) are too old to waste time with this stuff, and I am younger than you, Maslov. Heck, am fine with a third press from France or Germany. What do people think? That owning stuff leads to eternal life or respect, or even happiness? Ha!
Did I miss the hifi gear tour?
I showed all my main pieces. Maybe you blinked 🤷🏻♂️
@@mazzysmusic My apologies you are right. And what a nice assembly. I only run a P6 with Hana SL and can imagine that you must be in sound heaven. No excuse, but just the truth: Watching this was 'After Midnight' my local time, being 'so tired ' haven't slept a wink with my mind on the blink, if this does make any sense.
Shame about the poor Pretzel Logic ..I love that record ....Amps up the pressure on the upcoming Steeley releases
We shall see. I’ve been told the first two were good 🤷🏻♂️
If you're serious about your sound, use the blue Lufkin tape measure. The orange one has known issues.
I’ve heard that, but it seems to measure up just fine in my room 😎
Get your audiophile tape measure from Sith Audio