Ryzen 3000 5Ghz+ & Increased Core Count | Ryzen 2000 Specs, Price & Benchmarks Against Intel Leak
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- According to GlobalFoundries, we shall see the Ryzen 3000 series, built on a 7nm process and sport 5ghz clock speeds, and possibly given the shear reduction in size an increased core count too.
Meanwhile, the Ryzen 2000 series will feature up to 4.35GHz for the Ryzen 7 2700X, while retaining its 8 core 16 thread design. The 400 series AMD motherboards will offer a few additional features for the Zen+ architecture, with Ryzen 2000 being given the option to run Precision Boost Overdrive and improvements in power distribution and other such things over the 300-series AM4 motherboards.
Ryzen 2000 will be based on a 12nm design with a few subtle tweaks in-silicone, which shall slightly improve IPC over the previous Ryzen 1000 series.
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For everyone saying the slides are fake, VideoCardz.com reached out to the source of the leak for confirmation and they are 100% sure they are legit. Plus all of this sources' previous leaks for AMD have been genuine, so it's likely that the mistakes are from AMD themselves.
But, of course, it's possible they are fake, just unlikely.
Why would AMD get their own specifications wrong? The 2200g and 2400g have too much cache in the slides.
Intel is playing catch up. better yet the price point is impossible for Intel to beat. AMD on price per performance wins in all sectors. I work for a large company and they are buying AMD now so, i think its safe to say AMD Is the new king.
@@vyor8837 I know this is old, but that's the TOTAL cache amount, aka L3 AND L2 Cache together... -_-
"best stock cooler in the industry!" "...according to AMD at least" ...neah man, it's pretty much a fact, really curious what that new Wraith Prism can do.
Also, I kinda think the slides are fake.
LOL I use a nice custom loop, but I'm going to use that cooler for a 100w LED light hahha!
Dude, the LED isnt 100w... nor the fan... it can dissipate 100w of power to heat... how can you fuck that explanation up? LMFAO. water loop most likely require 3x the power of that but it cools up to 200-250w of power to heat.
You don't know everything about computers/specs, stop acting like you do.
the ryzen stock coolers are pretty good yes,
they even allow for some mild overclocking
that said i wanted to hit 4ghz stable at a temperature that is lower than like 87 degrees which i reached @ 3.85ghz on the stock cooler already, so i got me a 212 evo again eventually, and i now run 4 ghz @ 63 degrees (add 10-15 to that for summertime)
as for the stock cooler, well i screwed off the fan from the top, then diagonally screwed it back against an AMD FX heatsink, created a frankenryzen cooler,
and it's cooling another old athlon i have sitting around :D
I wish there was competition in the GPU sector like there is for CPUs.
Could you imagine a 12 core 5Ghz beast of a chip at less than $500? Or a 24 core almost 5Ghz chip for less than $1000? The very idea is hard to conceptualize.
Man that is great!!! You will be able to pair a 5Ghz CPU with your GTX 1050 or RX 560 for the maximum bottle necking experience.
Raging Monk Git 1060 3GB u skrub
Dave Sterling
I was referring to the fact that low end GPU's are all you can get now. I use an RX 480 8GB GTR clocked at 1340 MHz (basically a 580). I can clock it higher but in this market I will stretch this cards life as long as possible.
@ Raging Monk Yes, I'm in the same boat but a bit worse, I bought a RX-470 when I moved to another state, planning on getting a 1080ti. Now? I'll be using this (running 1320 / undervolted) ..for another year by the look of it. I'm disgusted at this price gouging and won't pay more than $750 for that 1080ti.. looks like it'll be a 4 year old card before that happens lol.
Perhaps AMD can release a 3800G with today's 1030-equivalent Vega built in for max bottlenecking?
Until 2019-2020 maybe the situation of gpus will change.
I will wait for the Ryzen 3000 series , Till then , my 2500k still runs great at 4.7Ghz on a Z68 mobo with 16Gb ram .
Btw a GTX 1060 6GB is just perfect for a 2500k , i tried an 1070ti , but that was a bottleneck .
And then we maybe see some new GPU's falling from the sky
SageFox - sad to disappoint you, but sandyBridge OC can still keep up with RyZen.
i5 2500K can get ~165 points in cinebench singlethread - about the same as the Ryzen 2xxx lineup will get.
For applications that use 8 or more threads the difference is roughly 20-30%, not so much.
Sandybridge is still holding up really well. Goes to show how little has changed cause AMD was nto able to deliver any usable CPUs. Now it is finally changing again.
Indeed , the i5-2500k is still a beast nowadays , it performs just 20% less to modern i5's . I already saved up 1200 euro for a new system , so i can buy the new Ryzen 2600(x) soon , but decided to wait just a bit longer for the Ryzen 3000 series , also because of the new coming motherboards and ofcourse the insane GPU prices right now , i hope they also have come down around the time ( begin 2019 ) the Ryzen 3000 series comes out . Some people think that a 2500k is very dated , but the reality is , that it still kicks ass , it is a great overclocker , i had it running at 5Ghz for over 2 years , but decided to bring it down to 4,7 because i need it to stay alive , for at least 1 year more :-) I can buy a i7-2600k for 80 euro , and sell my i5-2500k for 50 euro . So for 30 euro , maybe i go for that i7-2600k , even it is for just one year .
I'm sure they will because we have still one year to go , But i am positive that the Ryzen 3000 series will be very amazing ! even if they go up to ( just ) 4.8Ghz , i still be happy with it .
*"but decided to wait just a bit longer for the Ryzen 3000 series , also because of the new coming motherboards and ofcourse the insane GPU prices right now"*
Tell me about it.
I am still using an R9 280X - got it after my hd 7970 broke down after jsut 1.5 years.....
looking forward to the 2700X myself. it will be quite a upgrade over my current 1600X which I was pleased with over 2017 when I bought it and put it to use. it really kills my FX8350 in so many areas!
With those mistake in the slides and the dates from last year in it, it makes it look fake. We'll have to wait and see.
I'm just glad that, there are video's out there showing the 2600X running and being Tested on a Asrock Taichi, so we know these chips will run on current Gen Boards.. And when Zen 1 came out everyone said the Gen 1 Boards weren't the problem when it came to overclocking, Temps were fine, VRM's in most X370's were considered overkill and the boards weren't considered the problem with overclocking, it was the chips that had that 4.0 sealing, Not the X370 boards... Can't wait to see the reaction of all these Intel shit talkers when the 2700X is within 5% of the 8700K in gaming and killing it in everything else.. Gen 1 is already trading blows in AAA titles with fast memory as it is, running a 1000Mhz slower, 4.0 Ryzen Vs. a 5.0 Coffee Lake and it keeps right up...
I personally think the slightly lower gaming benchmarks for AMD are not due to AMD, but lack of support from devs. Everything nowadays is nVidia and Intel-centric.
I don't know what the timetable of a production run is, but if they plan on release this in a year, they must be close to sending it to the fabs, who are likely finishing up the Zen+ initial run. (I'm guessing here). If this was the case, AMD knows how this is going to work and likely has engineering samples they're happy with or close to it.
4,35 ghz are boost and not max oclock
intel ice lake and tiger lake are still on 10nm process, dont think they will shrink it down to 7nm like zen 2 in the near future. if AMD can get more yields per wafer they will have a huge advantage in pricing
It's official. I must have this STARSHIP CPU so I can play Star Citizen while listening to Bowie's Starman at full blast and achieve ultimate glory.
Well, the new Spectre and Meltdown patches are taking 4% to 5% of the Intel 8700K - so, I guess the gaming difference is down 2.7% to 3.7%. This is before people stick in some DDR4 3200 CL14 memory and scale up their new Ryzen 2700X or Ryzen 1600X FPS gaming performance. It will be interesting to see, whether DRR4 3466 and faster is now easy to do. These are leaks and many more question have been left unanswered!
yeah benchmarks from extreme overclockers will be something nice to see.
*"Well, the new Spectre and Meltdown patches are taking 4% to 5% of the Intel 8700K"*
Meltdown has no impact on gaming or compute performance what so ever and Spectre effects AMD exactly the same - the only difference is that Intel is currently trying to get a software workaround while AMD is pretty much ignoring the problem.
*"his is before people stick in some DDR4 3200 CL14 memory and scale up their new Ryzen 2700X or Ryzen 1600X FPS gaming performance."*
And those that tested those memory-scaling claims found out that upps - Intel is scaling just the same.
Ryzen 2xxx CPUs will be a nice step up, and offer similar price/performance as intel does. In some scenarios vastly better, in some very much slower. it always depends.
The new patches for Spectre and Meltdown landed a few days ago and they are on Reddit showing a 4%-5% loss in gaming FPS for Coffee Lake. You are talking about old patches that got withdrawn for crashing PCs. The old patches had less (0%-3%) loss in gaming FPS, but they were causing lots of PC crashes.
Balb Mahal The 'new patch' was only for older gens like broadwell and haswell. That was the issue -older archs, like broadwell, took massive performance hits and experienced instability with the initial meltdown and spectre patch's.
No such issues existed AFAIK with kaby and coffee. Not sure about skylake but I believe it too was largely unaffected.
I personally have had zero issues with the patch on kaby and received no prompts to update again, since it was targeted at broadwell, haswell, and earlier only.
If people are experiencing issue with it on coffee lake it's likely because the new patch was not intended to be installed on coffee lake systems. *Again, afaik, It's only for the older architectures that experienced the issues*
Coffee Lake is 0% in some games, but that is not guaranteed across all games and there is variation from CPU to CPU for this generation! Intel 8100 4% lower in Ashes of the Singularity, but the Intel 8700K is not changed in this game. The Intel 8700K is 3% lower in Battlefield One.
Don't understand why people think we will see a 50% increase in amount of cpu cores every generation now?
We have been stuck at 4 for years, expect for some enthusiast cpu from intel.
Developers are still not using newer API to any larger degree and even fewer use multiple cores.
I know the applications are increasing but to keep cost down and improve clocks I have no issue staying at 8 cores for a few years.
88oscuro because there is a new era rn, also known as 'core war' and it was also confirmed by intel to be going 8 core mainstream i7 with 9th or 10th gen. It is getting harder and harder to get better single core peraformance, and more cores offer easy addon peraformance.
Cinebench Single thread scores I got my R5 1600 to 161 (@3.925GHz) and my R52400G to 165 (@ 4.1GHz)
We will see once it actually comes out .
Amd tells reviewers what to say and how to do there video in order to get free samples and swagg
Honestly e2vdn though it is more work, AAA game developers need to start developing games optimized for more cores since we are approaching a threshold for pure clock speed. When this happens AMD will for sure be ahead of Intel. I just hope the RTG division can get back into the high end gaming fight with Nvidia soon.
the article about 7nm was talking about 3 different versions. who knows which one will be used for desktop chips and how high it will clock also mentioned was the ibm server chips that already run at 5.2 ghz or so. the 7nm they are talking about could be a very expensive 7nm process that uses multiple masks and uses very expensive materials for ibm's very pricey server chips. i dont think i would count on 5ghz for ryzen on 7nm. maybe the chips that come after that. maybe. the article is kind of vague and can be taken out of context very easily. alot of people are saying that ryzen 2000 is bit of a disappointment but only if you were expecting too much. i think its a very good product. just dont get your hopes up too high for ryzen 3. the 7nm process they are tlaking about could be different than the one they will use for ryzen 3000 series. the article never once makes ANY claims for what ryzen 3000 will do
The very same thing came out for Ryzen 2000 series and the video is still in this channel. Dont know why people are still falling for this
13:25 A GTX 1080 will bottleneck an i7-8700k - which is to say, the 8700k has a LOT left in the tank when running JUST a GTX 1080!
If benchmarks were done at 1080p with a 1080 Ti, the difference wpuld be closer to 12%+, 2x 1080 Ti and it would probably look closer to 25%
So the plan is- sell my current gen R5 1600, buy 2600 when it comes out, ask for a cpu to bios update, boom, more components and extra money.
Precision boost 2 is for PPL who don't overclock.. Just like precision Boost 1 didn't, matter for PPL who overclocked the first Gen Chips.. If your overclocking the chip yourself, that's not even going to come into play, If you have the chip overclocked to 4.4/4.5 on all 6 or 8 cores, you are already past the precision Boost frequency anyway...
I bought a 6700k because I didn't want to wait for ryzen +
What is the song called at the end of your videos
For $369, I'll buy a 2700x on day one to replace my 1800x. I may, however forego the x470 chipset board, and keep the CH6H I own now. I wish the chipset could be swapped lol. I just wonder what this "Enhanced Precision Boost2" is. I use P-State OC anyway, so it's no dealbreaker. At 13:42, that graph about gaming performance, it sure looks like an optimization thing since AMD's line is pretty straight and Intel's is up and down depending on the game. I think a lot of devs are still optimizing for Intel. As more and more Ryzens are showing up in more and more people's rigs, this will have to change soon. Mine works great though. Just get the memory up to at least 3200 cl14, and you'll do just fine. Here's a link to some of my benchmarks, they span about a year... drive.google.com/open?id=1wHOQ4c3P2Ittm1ytKmOJ2D1wR6yprqlj (1800x, Crosshair VI Hero (WiFi), TridentZ 3200cl14 (running 3333cl14), currently 4GHz P-State OC, but some benches here are for 4.1 or even 4.2, and the lower
I have the same setup (1800x / CH6). Here's a CB15 bench from it I just did now. drive.google.com/open?id=1fwl8ZsFa2W4y-zpsFmYutvUp1GwutnlJ I seen the CB15 scores in the chart in the vid, and even right out of the box with no adjustment I hit 1775. Must have been running 2133 mem speed or something. Mine's @ 3333 cl14. Great CPU. 1872 multi and 169 single. Could get it higher with more juice but don't feel like messing with it any more. Had it as high as 1920 @ 4.2, but at 1.45 I got scared and reverted. Good silicon.
Why there is no ryzen 3 12nm cpu.
More cores and 5ghz on ryzen "3000"? sounds like some of the larger ones could be small high freq. threadripper...
Should I wait on this or go ahead and get the Ryzen 7 1800X?
I knew it Ryzen>Conlake
shhhhhh don't spoil their fun
it´s realy depence... if you play ryzen + vega combination you will get better performance that intel+nvidia... 7700k-8700k 10ms latency vs ryzen 6ms... Pascal 9ms latency vs Vega 5ms... +1ms from the monitor... at start there where microstruter in rx Vega what fuck up the experience but it's totally on next level... if have high rexlex Vega amd will provide so snappy feeling that you cant understand it before trying it... returned my rx Vega 64 becouse the leafblower was blowing 80c air in my feet and cannot change my setup
You do realize that AMD is going to be increasing IPC on the 3000 series right?
Fuckin intel fanboys.
2 more cores, higher clockspeeds, lower temps...
Not really a big difference, if you have a 7700k, you are good for a long time.
This has to be fake. And I hate when people do this. It hurts AMD in the long run because it makes it seem like they failed when they do release their products.
Why fake? Roughly 10% increase in overall performance is the same as Intel has done the past couple years.
Not bad, but not great either.
ABaumstumpf, I would hope they weren’t. However, the mythical 5GHz plateau has been very elusive.
6:42 - Yay, yummy $1 gum!
Where have a heard rumors like this before?...
Just 369$ this means that 2700x is much cheaper than 8700k, with 1$.
they should have added support for ddr5 to 3000 series processors that would have kicked intel's ass. also why companies hate to put ryzen u series processors in laptop.
Any of these going to have intergrated graphics
There is a lot in these slides suggests they are either fake or a pathetic job by AMD.
1) The dates on the bottom left of two slides say 2017 for an NDA, not 2018.
2) The cache for the 2400G and 200G are listed as 10 MB, not 4 MB.
3) Apparently, the 6 core parts will drop from 20 MB cache to 19, which seems unlikely.
4) The 105 W TDP. For the 2700X to work on 300 series boards it needs to stay within the 95W TDP of last gen, not go higher and it is unlikely to be simply an XFR TDP that only works on 400 series boards as last gen AMD stated stock TDP, not XFR TDP.
5) One of the slides shows traces of a previous graph.
6) One slide lists Overwatch 2 comparisons. There is almost certainly not even an Overwatch 2 in the works as Overwatch is clearly intended as long-term support game like Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone. Hell, even Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 have had long-term support despite lacking microtransactions. Even if Overwatch 2 was in the works, Blizzard would not have given AMD an advance copy to put on slides before announcing the game themselves.
EDIT 1: I could believe AMD made a few of those mistakes in a pre-release slide, especially if they have not yet finished proof-reading and editing it, but not that many.
EDIT 2: Also, a 7th error is that there is at least one 95W CPU listed with a cooler rated for 65W.
One thing that might be true though is the lack of a 2800X. The 1700X way outsold the 1800X due to overclockers finding out that the 1700X could OC to roughly the same clocks as the 1800X yet the 1800X sold a lot more. So, it makes sense to top the line with the 2700X this time and instead save the better binned dies that would have gone to the 280)X for the second gen Threadrippers.
Also, the clock speeds are about what I expected so they may be true as well.
Good eye. 👍
Apart from the wattage one, I did not spot them. I compiled them from comments that I agreed with on another video and put them in my own wording.
Kane Bunce oh I see.
if any of the ryzen gen 2 chips can hit 5ghz + I will literally throw my intel pc in the garbage and switch to amd
I do not give a fuck about 10 percent in games. That 10% plus needs a money sink gpu+monitor to do so it is not worth 3times over... It is intel that needs to do the marketing who provide less and ask more money. If I needed a cpu the 2700 would be a sure buy for me but soonest I ll spend on my rig is 2019 so that is 3000series.
15:36
You misspoke there I think.
Or running multiple client of a game and wanting to be able to do other stuff at the same time, for example I run 5 EVE Online clients and also sometimes want to be extacting a RAR file and watching a youtube video.
i just bought a 8700k last night for 339??? whats this 380?
So is there news on AMD GPUs? i want to see if they are going to refine vega or make a new GPU for next gen cards along with next gen APUs.
There's a compute Vega for servers coming out H2 this year. On 7nm. Don't know about gaming.
When I start watching channel it had 1k sub now it has 51k sub that crazy I hope my channel grows too 51k one day
Has anyone seen any reviews of the new Dyson vacuum cleaner? I hear it really sucks. It is so powerful it has even sucked in tech CZcamsrs!
That is 100% bullshit, AMD will never see 5 gig. And the slides are fake, just like a guy under here pointed out.
pronounced it wrong, the pronounced pronunciation wrong
ggwp
btw nm is pronounced nanometers and mm is millimeters
NOW THE INTEL FAN GIRL'S ARE CRYING ABOUT CLOCK SPEED, INSTEAD OF IPC, JUST LIKE THE amd GIRL'S USED TO DO WITH FX.. LOL.. SHIT IS FUNNY
you know how Soviet union ans USA won the WW2.. Germany had few single powerful tanks, while allies were producing many shitty tanks, just like intel and AMD, amd will come out on top
wow, i havent read something this retarded in weeks
will the b350 be compatiable?
So, no real reason to wait... performance isn’t going to change much between the 2000 series and the 1920 and 1950x. A few extension improvements, but real world difference is going to be minimal for desktop applications.
$370?
I'm playing games on a i5-2500k@4.8ghz, 16 Gb DDR3 with GTX 1060 3gb. If I upgrade to a 1070, what CPU should i upgrade so as to not bottleneck GPU?v I don't do video editing. So far, works great even @ 1440P.
tigerbalm don't really marginal difference in ONLY gaming, if doing anything more go with the 2600k. Also how the hell do you have 150gb or ram?
tigerbalm no need to upgrade cpu at that clockspeed I wouldn't think
if you will ONLY game 8600k/2600x are the way to go, whilst one offer better performance single core the other offer better performance multicore, both are good enough CPU.
How can you even share such fake info? We didn't even see exactly what Zen+ has to offer and you're already posting some clickbaity, shit with only guess from unconfirmed sources??? Just seeing the notification made me laugh.
THE ECHELON!!!!!!!
So AMD only can reach 5ghz in 7nm? Intel already did that with 14nm, what will happen when Intel also start using 7nm process?
Frequency isn't everything, and Intel have been hitting 4.7GHz+ since Sandy.
Clock speed is not dependent on process size alone. Ryzen can't go as high as Intel because they use a low power node, which is meant for low clock speeds. They do this because their chips are primarily aimed for sever CPUs (epyc) where low power consumption is more important than clock speed. They use the same die for Ryzen. I think a 7nm process will give them more headroom though. They'll probably be able to get to 5ghz XFR. And that will be enough because the 7nm process is not all AMD has in store for Zen2. They said the architecture as a whole will get a revamp. So we can expect IPC increase as well. As for Intel, they are struggling to get their 10nm process to work properly right now. We won't see anything noteworthy on 10nm from Intel until next year.
It is an open question whether clock frequency will fall on 7 nm.
ryzen 2 will be 2019, ryzen 3 will be 2020.
Different manufacturing.
it is sad that the Fanboys now cling to "See? Ryzen will hit 5GHz" when the reality is that GF said nothing about current speeds but the maximum.
Intel still has the better architecture and manufacturing - more efficient and clocking higher, but the lead is shrinking.
For 3000 series (7nm!) possibly:
Ryzen 3: 4 cores with and without ht
Ryzen 5: 6 cores
Ryzen 7: 8 or 10 cores
Base speeds at 4ghz, Turbo Clockspeed at 5ghz +
Yeah no.
That is just as realistic as saying that the next i7 9xxx will be 10core 5.5 GHz.
ABaumstumpf why?
STOP USING 4:43!!! it's been a proven to be false.
IF your news on RYzen 2500-2700 blows, just leak a few slides promising great clock speeds *next year*...on the 3000 series CPUs? Awesome.....
DDT them by Miz
very good
its all hype because if it was true tje something in a base vpu should be seen tested not slides like you see here its noce to hear but i like to see it in video in a build playing games do rendering etc..lets eait and see if this happens..
ryzen 2 1 ccx 8 cores
FIRST, I am very excited for Ryzen plus. I had an r5 1600 but sold and side-graded to a 2700k @4.7ghz as I only do gaming.
but 1600 is literally better than 2700k in gaming, it even beats it in single thread
I get 173 single sore and 865 in multi with 2400mhz ram, slightly better framerates than the 1600 at 3.8GHZ.
well the 2400 ram explains it, i run 3200 and at 4.0ghz and i beat the 2700k in single thread
Brandon Chelsea the ram not explain it ryzen for gaming is less fps than any intel i7
Kevin Drexel It probably depends on the games you play, my R5 1500x actually tends to do a bit better in the games I've tried...
Free hundred and seventy UF Dollars
Give me 8k gpus
Rustaffa 8000 GPUs or GPUs that run at 8000Dollar or GPUs with 8000 shaders or GPUs that work well with 8K Textures or what??
obvious fake, keep doing click baiting and you will lose viewer and subscriber.
i think i had enough and gonna unsubscribe.
The 5ghz doesnt mean all thatuch, considering that ryzes 2000 even at 4,35ghz doesnt beat 8700k single core score... But sure will be nice, but i hope the mhz boost isnt all there is to it, they need a better core in itself.
Romick Vieira , it will certainly beat intel in price to performance.
I’ve managed to educate most of my family on the value of Ryzen which has saved them so considerable amounts whilst getting good performance,
adamsrealm yeah i know, and having so many cores the slightly lower performance per core is only noticed when you have a overkill gpu for the game or settings, but im just static something that is true, 5ghz wont be the only thing they need to change, the core must also be better
Romick Vieira you also have to consider the ipc gains from 7nm. 5ghz plus a much smaller node than Intel will definitely beat current Intel offerings
Romick Vieira well 8700k single core is 4.7ghz
Clam Dong hum will intel really stay on 10nm? That makes bo sense at all, they should also go 7nm, they are richer than amd so why bot?
When Ryzen hits 5ghz, Intel will hit 6ghz. And why isn't anybody talking about ram compatibility? I dumped my Ryzen for the 8700k simply because of the ram issue. People buy Ryzen for gaming, 99% of them. If they can't get the ram to run on the same level as Intel, they'll always be behind Intel. Any damn computer can handle the level of productivity 99% of the consumers do.
SageFox It is indeed an assumption. My assumption. I'm not a fanboy of Intel or Amd. I had both. I'll switch to whatever performs better.
Intel can't even get past 14nm right now lmao.
I perfer Intel over amd thats just my preference but i do hope that both companies start stepping up their game and right now amd has and all im wait for now is for intel to start making better cpus but it is sad that only now amd is making good cpus and i do hope as you put it they pass the crown back and fourth not only is it good for us consumers it helps out both companies.
Static Doesn't matter. Right now Intel performs better in gaming. End of story.
cowthedestroyer Well said.
It's nanometer dude, when you keep saying "nm" its makes it seem like you don't know what your talking about and hard to take you seriously. Just saying.
First of all "lengthen your videos"? were not talking several minutes, we're talking literally a second or three. It makes me wonder if time moves faster where you are. Second, it's like if you hear a cook say "oz's" instead of ounces on a cooking show or a carpenter say "ft" instead of feet. I"m not blasting him for it, it's just weird, just say the word. Yes, we all know what he means but it still comes across how it comes across. Third, i'm sure people will unsub in mass if he says nanometer instead of "nm's" . You really have a weird way of thinking I just don't subscribe to.
What's my "problem"? Are you dumb? Did you not actually read my reply to Peter? I think I explained it pretty well. If you read it you wouldn't ask what my "problem" is. And I didn't say it was a problem, I said it was weird and I explained why. This is now an issue because Peter thinks saying the word will add substantial amounts of time to the video because he can't tell how time works and by you because you don't understand/intake what you read. I gave my opinion which I clearly and logically explained with examples and it obviously wasn't good enough for any of you. I didn't bash Red or call him any names or make fun of him, I gave my opinion with examples and weather or not you agree, it does make sense. Deal with it or not, that's your problem.
the 2700x vs 8700k looks so fake.
I love how everyone is saying oh you can keep your x370 motherboards they will work with 200 ryzen, but you may not get all of the potential out of the chip, if you want that you need our new motherboards...
HorRodX, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking to the Hypocrites that say new motherboard every year for intel, but amd is doing the same thing.
+Mustard Gaming Not saying I would even consider buying a 2000 series cpu without the new mobo but it is simply more than what intel offered.
Lazarus Project well, intel knows most people that gonna buy top end chips are gonna go for a new motherboard anyways so why even waste effort for compatibility
HorRodX exactly if people want the best thing they are going to buy new motherboard, that's what intel is doing they only cater to people that upgrade every year, and with amd 2700x will work better on a x470 anyways so again it's a gimmick
Peter DellaFlora but what if t hay said person or multiple that have bad vrms or not so good overclock and want a 2700x they are forced to buy a new x470 motherboard, see where I'm going with this.
When they reach 5ghz is when ima upgrade my current ryzen build