Why DO People like The Night Lords so much???
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Because the part of our brain that liked shadow the hedgehog never truly went away
Same
I don't live on the edge, I AM the edge.
@@BilboniousBagODonuts totally agree
I'm getting this tattooed on my body
Based
Because we know we’re assholes and we don’t pretend we’re not
Ave Dominus Nox brother!
No wonder Arch likes them. 😂
I'm bad and I love it.
Hey at least they’re honest unlike some other legions.🐱
Other legions claim they have virtues like courage, honor, strength, and dignity. The Night Lords have integrity and that’s all they need.
“‘They’re in the walls’ energy” is the best description of the Night Lords I’ve ever heard.
Konrad on the Lion's Flagship : 😄
I wish I could post memes here because I have a perfect one for this
Because of their jetpack oriented combat, openly unapologetic dirty fighting and uncontained goblin energy. Also Sevatar surfed _a fucking Starfighter_ and dove through a window into a ship's bridge from said Starfighter. Like come on, not even the Khan did that kind of shit.
'Goblin Energy!' LMAO!!!!! Love it!
I work at the gas station... Night Lords have that crackhead courage and Kevins' attitude with strength to back it up.
what book was that? i can't remember
@@monkeyswithshoes308 Prince of Crows
@@monkeyswithshoes308 also I doublechecked, it wasn't a Thunderhawk, it was a Starfighter. Still...
As a wise man once said
Warhammer 40k fanbase can be devided into 2
1. Night Lords fans
2. Those who didnt read ADB's Night Lords trilogy
I read ADB's Night Lords trilogy. Great Books with interesting characters. And I still fucking hate the Night Lords. A character that is interesting and engaging doesn't make them any less despicable when they get off on torturing people to death. (Yes, I include Talos in that category. "Lesson" my ass.)
I'm an asshole and I love them, adb wrote them and it reminded me of me and my friends sometimes. Not the genocide and murder, but the dark humor and rough housing. Also when we played online games we always tried to find an edge over our opponents even if it meant getting the ban hammer.
@@thomascullinan6319your right,.they are despicable, which makes them awesome (in a fictional setting ofc) they are in a grimdark setting and revel in that. I still like the Word Bearers more (except Erebus because f that guy)
"I wanted to be a hero. Look how that turned out."
Night Lords are interesting because they kind of really suck at the actual job of being a space marine. Like, the way they operate, why even bother making most of them supersoldiers?
Except Sevatar; It's almost like 95% of the legion's actual martial skill got crammed into him and him alone.
Definitely a combination of Night Lord battle doctrine, Gendor Skraivok deliberately recruiting kids who have no business becoming Space Marines, and Konrad inability/unwillingness to fix things.
If Night Lords were fighting the kind of battles the others legions were doing at the time (massive wars against mighty empires), I feel a lot of those inferior Marines would have been filtered out. You don't need to be superhuman in order to brutalize a bunch of terrified human civvies, but it definitely helps.
Isn’t it said that most night lords are just criminals there’s barely any that are actual soldiers
I disagree the night lords had a role to play, they make amazing enforcers one of the only legions that made worlds comply from just the word they were entering the system
@@UndaLupus I would give up if I saw any legion of space marines heading to my planet
@@Mkrause762yes but plenty of planets were willing to fight the legions. No world wanted to fight the Night Lords. Their name alone would make worlds surrender.
Night Lords are indeed all about that Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to their captives. Just ask Septimus and Octavia.
The Slave on the ship with Konrad too.
necron flayed one: *nice drip* 🤖
night lord: *thanks u too* 😈
Night Lords is proof of how propaganda works when it's done well, and humanises the subject, even when it's about people who flay skin and torture people
Eldar are what happens when that propaganda sucks
"Listen to you. 'The masters of fear'. You are cowards, like all cruel men."
- Raldoran of the Blood Angels, wasting his breath on some Night lord curr, after said Night Lord was pissing his pants when faced with an actual challenge and not some defenseless innocent.
Raldoran got lucky the Painted Counts demon blade stripped itself of its boons.
Everyone hates the painted count, even other nightlords.
@@cr1ms0n64 Only because he represents what they truly are and they cannot stand to look into the mirror.
One of my favorite things about the night lords is that they have an ego about themselves or at least some weird sense of honor. Like in First Heretic when they see the Gal Vorbak for the first time they're openly revulsed by them. Like "we play at being monsters, but you sick freaks actually became monsters"
Ah yes, the Night Lords fan. You often smell this creature before you see him. The faint scent of ammonia and Hot Topic is unmistakable
My wife, who I mention in my comment, DID work at Hot Topic on Saturdays just for the employee discount. She supervised a hospital lab for her day job.
.... as a nightlords fangirl I cannot deny this hot topic accusation
My wife was asked by a GW rep over from Nottingham for DragonCon, "Why Night Lords?"
She was towering over him, 5'10 before the six inch heels, spilling out of a black leather corset. She wanted a VIII Legion t-shirt and they were out.
She leaned over, stared him in the eye, and sneered, "Because Konrad Curze was an unappreciated genius who did nothing wrong."
The poor guy nearly passed out.
Last time I was this early, Magnus hadn't done anything wrong yet.
And both eyes
That could be anywhen
I like Magnus, but he did EVERYTHING wrong.
That could be any point in time.
I appreciate night lords for being one the most interesting traitor legions, they were in a way the first traitor by destroying nostramo. As well as the fact that there the only legion with a primarch showing a mental illness/ mental decay
Man, you saying that Konrad is the only primarch mentally ill?
Like, Mortarion, Perturabo, Angron, Lorgar, Fulgrim, Lion and Ferrus?
I mean it's easier to name the primarchs that don't have glaring mental issues tbh.
Obligatory "I heard the sound of bolter fire!!"
"Bolters barked"
In my dirt-brain opinion, it's the characters and how well they've been written that draw the fans in to the Night Lords. And it's ironic in that those characters are often telling them, "We kinda suck.' But about two seconds after a self-hatred fueled soliloquy they prove your underdog point and do something badass and you just can't help but *like* them.
Absolutely digged the video, as always, and keep up the great work.
P.S. Your primach series is tier 1 stuff. I've shown your Dorn video as almost an essay on character study to a few different people
For me its for two reasons.
1. They're aesthetically awesome with the vamperic/slavic look, along with the lightning accents.
2. They are just fucked up in so many ways, particularly in being the 'masters of fear' yet are probably the biggest cowards of all space marines. Possibly of any faction even (like the Drukari).
Basically I love them for being baby bitch edge lords. Theyre a great Grimdark faction for such heinous crimes but have real character in sadness and wanted honour.
Night lord: BAAGH fear me mortal-
Gets sprayed by water
Night lord: sssssshhhhh
If you guys haven't listened to the Night Lords omnibus audiobook version read by Andrew Wincott you should give it a listen. He gets the slavic accent of our beloved skitzo batboys just right. Oh and Talos' speech in the third book *chefs kiss*. Also apart from the Tenth company boys I love Kheron Ophion. That idea of the single brave soul in a legion of cowards hits home with me
We're the same people who like Postal we love our sociopaths
Please tell me you’re talking about the games, not the movie…
I like how human they really are. You can see glimpses of how they could’ve been heroes with talos and sevatar. Also despite being cowards they produce some of the best fighters out there
In the words of Jeff Foxworthy "you can only make fun of them if you are one, and I are one"
Night Lords are our little meow meow.
I like the Night Lords for the same reason I like Frank Horrigan. In an era where a lot of popular IPs are obsessed with trying to make sympathetic villains, it's cathartic to see unrepentant war criminals instead.
Also, like you said, they don't fight like space marines and, funny enough, despite being the most brutal chapter, they probably killed the least. Instead of warring with entire planets, they scare planets into compliance.
In other words, them being evil doesn't unskin your wife and kids.
Because we never grew out of our Batman hyperfixation
For me personally, its because I also grew up toasted in the head, so finding one that had a sense of justice, even if an incredibly borked one (shoutout to CPTSD fight mode! A truly universal solution!) And yeah..... even the fact that he had an ideal he worked so hard for only to be fucked over by the Nostroman elite...
Well, the crazy bastard is very relatable
How the Night Lords (and their fans) see themselves: Kewl, dark, edgy, badasses who don't take no shit from The Man, Man.
How Socially Adjusted people see them: Try-hard idiots with their clay shoes tied together.
The same reason kids like Apple Jacks, we just do. The excellent trilogy by ADB definitely helps too. The bitchin spooky aesthetic, unusual method of warfare, they’re just pimpin.
Some times people like the heel faction. Personally, I like the "good guy" chapters like the Raven Guard. Beaks for life haters! lol
Holy shit, another beaky boi fan?
In this economy!?! LETS GO!
Two main factors for me personally: The Night Lords Trilogy is some of the best literature in the Black Library.
And secondly and maybe even more important is the aesthetics, those fuckers might be clad in midnight, but they are also clad in the finest drip.
"Death is nothing compared to vindication"
I turned traitor after reading the Night Lords book and some of the Night Lords HH short stories. It's also refreshing having a Traitor Legion that is not totally turbo fucked by Chaos corruption, and have some understandable (albeit not entirely agreeable) motives for turning traitor
New Night Lord's vid from guy that got me to read the trilogy? PREYSIGHT ACTIVATED
AVE DOMINUS NOX!
I was moved by Talos's conviction, and impressed by both their effectiveness during The Crusade, as well as their underdog status as a traitor legion. For this reason I play them on the tabletop.
Edit: The Night Lords Chaos Lord in the Morvenn Vahl book is named Kol Rakul, The Death of Saints. His name in Nostroman likely means Cold and Cruel. It is also worth noting that titles among The Night Lords are either self-imposed, or ironic, so either Kol gave himself the title as he has some history with The Argent Shroud, or he has ran from every battle against The Sororitas lol.
I love my silly little bat boys and their silly little war crimes
The nightlord fans that weird me out the most are the girl the are down bad for Konrad himself (I assume there are guys as well, I just have not meet them). Like what can you find sexy about a man who so meticulously sews together the flayed skin of his victims that he would probably hunt down specific worlds to get "just the right texture/color" for his quilt?
"...But I can fix him!"
I bet they wish they were Steven
Violent and dangerous men appeal to women lmao
It’s a fantasy of a dangerous man a powerful and in control confident man. A man who could and would rip the world apart for what he believes in. And what if that man… decides to love her and made an exception?
The appeal is basically what if this dangerous edgy well spoken and philosophical man decided I was special enough to not harm.
But that’s all just my best guess. You could try asking them yourself and see if you survive. 🙂😆
he is Drakula
I like the armour its really pleasing and unique, like dark angels with hooded helmets.
Arthur roasts the night lords fan base for 10 or so minutes
I ain't ever been this early what the fuck
Yeah bro dang
Dang it
Night lords are the guys holding the flaying knife and roasting you while they turn you into a cape of skin. The nobility of hive gangers and mercy of animals.
Kurze got the short end of the stick on nearly everything. But he's also nuts
4:30 Listen man I look at The Wrath cannibalize the remnants of a battlefield, using the corpse bits for all kinds of things, and I go "Hell yeah I love these living blenders."
I can say...because they are oddly one of the most human space marine legions. We can thank the trilogy really. It does give us a legion where we have a tragic nature to it. As we can look on Konrad, who just needed a hug.
The other legions needed daemons and gods to turn them evil, Night Lords just are. They were practically raised to be so. Yet, they are self-aware of it. They do not lie to themselves of their nature. And again, because of the trilogy, we can see that they are more than this. Be it Talos, Uzas, or even the warsage...there is simply humanity still within them that can be seen through the flayed skin and general horror, they are just large children that want to be loved by their mentally ill father.
Personally I feel like part of the reason Night Lords are liked so much is because I feel like either consciousnessly or subconsciously a lot of people realize that if Space Marines ever became real they would most likely be like the Night Lords.
Like just think, if you took a child that was forced through barbaric trials by combat that kill 99% of grown men and gave them literal superhuman abilities and conditioning to where they basically only fully understand combat you're likely not gonna get the philosophical Blood Angels, reasonable Ultramarines, or caring Salamanders, you're probably gonna end up with the opportunistic, violence-driven, and power-obsessed Night Lords.
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I always had the idea of a Nightlord Warband going on killing sprees on Imperial Worlds as the idea of mercy kills. They slaughter the people because they know the dream the Emperor had is dead and the people are the reason for it. They wish not the people to live in Imperium as the dream is dead.
Ethics and moral are the luxury of the victorious.
Night Lord's Paintscheme designed to torture you the painter. Metaterrorism.
Ave dominus nutz.
Gottem
“What happened during your upbringing to cause you to turn out this way?”
“Nothing, I’m just evil.” - Nightlords probably
They’re one of my favourite traitors, they seem unapologetically evil - yes - but not the same as Chaos. The don’t necessarily revel in it, but they just simply don’t care. Plus they look badass and have a unique social structure
Average person: because theyre cool and insane
That one person at my LGS: “Ayo why Kurze kinda…😏”
Roladon kicking the painted count off the wall was the best scene in all of the lore
The Emperor of Mankind really thought that he should make a legion completely dedicated to terrorism. Also wondered why they decided to join Chaos.
Edgy dorks with a kick ass paint scheme and bats on their icons, being sold to edgy dorks who don't realize how annoying painting lightning is gonna be. I say this with my first and only painted minis being nightlords and salamanders lol
"Time to hide", double meaning? If the Night Lords are around theres sure some flaying coming around.
I like the skull faces on the helmets, plus terror tactics are both fun and funny, and screw the chaos gods
Let me take a crack at it as an outsider. Konrad Curze, from the summary videos I remember addressing him, seems like Batman if the joker's, "We're not so different." motif was right. And now there are a bunch of 'mini' corrupted batmen running around the galaxy doing "hot girl shit".
They are effective. They are the perfect solution to living in a grimdark universe. Become as bad as, or worse.
I fantasize about night lords when I play my deathwatch
I was just thinking about this question yesterday thanks for making this
Imma gunma writa me a night lords booke
Because they see the setting of 40k for what it is - a lie and they laugh all the way during the slaughter
1:04
Basically if you have a job where you know what will happen, how things will play out, and you get punished for doing your job and don’t even get treated in ways that makes you wish that your boss was neglectful, and you knew he was going to stab you in the back because ‘hey we get more points from hiring these people instead of you’ type stuff.
They fired people i trained for saying that the bosses know nothing because i trained them to do the job better, faster, but because they said my boss did a shit job training them- they had to go and i was isolated covering 8 positions that they had 4 people cover. I was alone for 9 weeks with the guys literally running over there to demand i stop working on the machine, to walk up to them just for them to demand i work on the machine i was working on.
I had less than 1 minute to run up and down stairs on 8 positions.
The people across from me were on their phones for 15 minutes with yellow lights all around until 1 of them noticed.
The bosses ignored them to tell me to get to my positions- which held 8, the other people held only 2.
I was fired for running.
A person was pulling on a belt to get the machine to run because she didn’t know it was shut down.
I ran over to tell her to stop, because there is nothing wrong with it. She was abusing this for about 4 hours and it stopped working the next day.
The guy saw me running and i was fired for a safety violation.
I did report him and put him in a position to, snitch or take the fall for his buddies.
One buddy fired anyone who had been there for a few years on the lightest of things when he was promoted to management to… balance budgets.
Our new janitors literally just followed the old ones, took a picture of their work to say it was their own.
One of the new guys kept stealing my utility knifes.
I was moved to another position- but the manager never signed me out of my station because ‘there is someone who was behind and since i was ahead i could do their job to catch them up’ surprise he left, meaning i got him a full check and i lost half my pay because the system said i didn’t do it.
I was told i had to run around the facility on a fractured leg which the manager just laughed, and said i could still spot… followed by her throwing me under the bus at lunch ‘this person never answers the radio’ she yelled at me for answering it during lunch. She got written up and i was called up to hand over my radio to her.
Days later a manager asked me if i had a radio- i told him i was never assigned one.
Turns out she stopped assigning people radios, stopped them from taking them and wrote them up just to assign them a radio and go ‘see this person never answers the radio’ trying to toss other people under the bus.
We know how this ends and we just stuck to this out of spite.
People stole stuff, still was allowed to stay. People ate food of people they didn’t like just to spit it back into the lunch bag. Not a thing happened
People would stop you in the hallway for nothing more than to make you walk around them and laugh.
At the very least i got the guy who fired everyone demoted back to the position he cut- and saw him spending hours in the break room.
The other person was demoted, but still does nothing but sit back on her phone in the break room and so on.
The sheer amount of shit i covered for lead to it spilling out/ machines are breaking due to mistreatment, the estops are being pulled, the other shifts are pissed due to the state we leave stuff and the managers are dealing with so much shit that they are quitting.
And now its a blood bath of managers ‘its not me its the employees’ that they fired the veterans to look better on the budget for.
The guy who fired me got one of the old guys to just push boxes down the line, making it pile up.
He was so smug, meanwhile boxes were cartwheeling down 2-3 stories.
I told one of their buyers and they sent me a email ‘you can’t talk about working here even after you are terminated’ turns out i cost them a pretty penny and their facility may have been investigated.
‘Yay this person is out of our hair and our budget looks good, we don’t have to pay that thing 3$ more’
Meanwhile i took 1 week off and i saw 5 people on my positions, all of which were away for almost an hour.
when u mentioned talos's speech, why is the pic u chose so fuckin funny with those 2 dots on the eye lenses making it look like hes cross eyed🤣🤣🤣
" We have come for you"
The Night Lords Trilogy novels, them being prolly the best Chaos books. That's all.
Another good Night Lords book is Lord Of The Night and not many seem to have read it.
11:20 so they're like the White scars but Traitor.
(In the sense that lore youtubers love them but no one really paints them)
Nothing is wrong with liking edgy things, part of being a kid and more and more of us stay life-long kids. Just accept yourselves and be comfortable with yourselves, that's it! 😄
-A fan of World Eaters and Iron Warriors 😘
1:14 You know this is gonna be good when the start of the video has a Letter Kenny meme.
Thank you for making a night lords video 🙏
Because they look cool
True chads are Blackshields fans.
We don't support the imperium or Horus, we realise both are flawed so we achieve our own goals
Me Sitting here as a good catholic boy sipping his cup of coffee and eating his two becon and eggs, with white toast who happens to be a Nightlords fan because I love a complex bad guy who gives the middle finger to stupid chaos zealots: "I feel attacked....I'm going to read Soulhunter again....
They have the coolest color scheme in the setting, don't @ me + I find them relatable in some personal aspects(not the edgy murder and torture is good shit) + being the thing that goes bump in the night is cool as fuck.
The pet from the Curze book is the best part of it (him sitting around naked and smelling like shit eating dead people and complaining to his disgusting guts effigy of the emperor is fun in its own way). Curze cuts off one of his legs (presumably to eat it) so he fashions himself a makeshift peg leg prosthetic.
Because Curze has a dickish sense of humour, he cuts off a bit more of the same leg, making the prosthetic no longer fit. This the last person left alive on a rogue trader vessel who has to pilot it on a month's long journey to Tsagaulsa while getting routinely harassed, abused and slightly eaten by Curze.
Its almost funny how bonkers Curze is in parts, but also super compelling as you get the downbeats of Curze schizomaxing over the course of the great crusade and after.
Lord of the Night is probably one of the best Night Lord novels, 1 Night Lord crash lands on a hive world. Antics ensue.
Fun characters to explore, especially from the perspective of the Great Crusade. Wrapping my mind around the motivations of loyalists/blackshield Night Lords has been interesting.
As a Carcharodons fan reading Red Tithe really made me like the Night Lords
To all night lords fan that also like anime, are you guys also fans of Overlord?
Yes.
Honestly nightlords seem like pretty chill guys
Where am I left since my favourites are Nightlords, The World Eaters, Deathguard and The Black Templars???
We just like tall ass Emo Men I guess
The trilogy was probably some of my favorite fiction too.
"Some blackened pride still burns inside this bloody shell of treason." Great vid! Subbed!
I'm not a huge night lords fan per say, but they do interest me.
Blood Angels were my first army so there is bias in what i say. But the thing I came to love about the Blood Angels is how they choose to rise above their lesser instincts. To choose to struggle against the temptation to give in, and to win through force of will.
The night lords interest me as they feel like an opposite, where they blood angels are optimistic the night lords are pessimistic.
How Konrad and Sanguinis viewed their foresight shows is most succinctly.
Their contrast is far more interesting to me compared to say the world eaters / angron and the blood angels / Sanguinis.
Neat point. I do hate that it seems that Blood Angels often get used as “generic dickhead marines who get cacked” in a lot of non Blood Angel stories since they are an interesting chapter to me.
Heh, ADB made people like Night Lords with his Omnibus) Talos was a baddie but with goals, and every other significant character in this series was nicely presented. I really like second book, when Talos decides to hop on former NL's battleship and Huron and his warband portrayed as absolute chaos degenerates (shit and blood everywhere, fully corrupted navigator). Even Exalted was not a totally chaos depraved demon-monster until the very end
Don’t forget the core material for the background; Heart of Darkness by Victor Hugo (and the basis for Apocalypse Now).
Nice video man
I like that compared to basically everyone else they are the most pathetic out of all the demigods that even when they had a 4-1 advantage they lost to the angels sanguin who are one of the weaker chapters out there . So it’s fun to see them flail around like big boys only to run into a Mack truck going straight towards them at 80 mph then as they are in the ground still twitching and groaning in pain they try to act like the big dog again.
i’m not a huge fan of the night lords. but i am a huge fan of arthur talking about the night lords
because they are the best have brilliant characters and the best drip
For me it's the same reason I love the Skaven in Fantasy so much. They're unabashedly, no holds barred, no excuse, over the top, mustache-twirling evil but silly enough that they are never really unstoppable and never win for long. They're like a dark version of a clumsy clown circus number or Will E Coyote. And this is coming from a very straight laced guy who primarily plays and loves Order factions in both 40k and Fantasy (yes even craftworld Eldar and High Elves) and usually plays lawful neutral or lawful evil in RPGs. I also like the Iron Warriors, Dark elves and Chaos dwarves as tamer, more nuanced versions of this.
Personally I just love their design.
Pure drip.
Great video as always. Please do one for us Word Bearers fans. Argel Tal and Kharn are bros for life.
From my glass house of never read a book, never touched a table, only games and lore vids, I think it's because there's more good content for them, as an iron hands/ mechanicus fan