NEW MOST OP SHIP IN ENTIRE GAME - World of Warships
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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2022
- I am not joking when I say that Eagle is by far the most overpowered ship in the entire game at the moment in my opinion.
This was only my 1st ever match in it, let's just say I got better in it since then.
I think WG is finding ways to put floating ships under the water, if you catch my drift.
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The player's base: We need better AAs or nerf CVs
WG: How about a Uno reverse ◀️
Oh no. AA is cancer is it is.
We dont need even more of it. Especially on ships that can also use smokescreen
I have a Halland, full AA build, got clapped and killed by this ship in just two passes. Really pissed me off.
@@nofilter2091 so turn your AA off so it cant attack you. brain work hard
@@bladeclanhalo3 then it kills your team you still lose
as if CV after 2018 worth shit
This ship seems to have potential. But I think it needs a few tweaks to be balanced:
- Supersonic aircraft
- Nuclear torpedos and bombs
- Homing torpedos, laser-guided missiles and GPS-guided rockets
- Immunity against AA - I mean, losing those jet aircraft was really annoying, right?
- Bigger strike groups, say like 20 at once?
World Of Warships Chief of gaming..... done and done....
You should probably should delete the comment before WG gets anymore ideas.
WG: Too late! Coming out in update 0.11.5!
*Syntax error*
You should apply for the WG document sheet guy, so all the devs will have to follow the paper
nah the enemy should need SAMs to shoot down Eagle's aircraft
It's WG's take on historically accurate: surface ships becoming obsolete/not relevant with the arrival of CVS and subs
Yes.
@@andrewadami3920 ..what?
Yeah it's historically accurate but how can you balance a game around planned obsolescence of the majority of your game's playable entities lmao
@@alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289 Perhaps by moving ships up or down tiers? Or by introducing new, higher tiers, periodically.
@@andrewadami3920 So you mean the arrival of these super ships; aka Tier 11 isn't aligned to this? 🤔
Love how one of the Meteors was lost so much faster than the first ever Wyvern. Guess those ww2 gunners can target jets better
Jets are more fragile so a random machine gun round would fuck up a jet more than an older prop plane, not that the game is much for realism, they probably just gave them super low health because they are in the AA range for maybe 20% of the time due to this dumb speed.
@@ainumahtar but it's a wyvern, not "an older prop plane"
Are we actually arguing FOR cvs?
@@asterion3291 They wouldn’t. Think how much ordnance they had to put up against WW2 aircraft and the predicted hit rates.
@@asterion3291 simply, do the same as they did in WW2. Trow shells wall in the air and hope for the best.
Fighters dogfight should be back. That would keep the CVs busy for a while giving surface ships some time to breath and play the game.
Yes please i want my air superiority bogue back :D
@@ravensshade but no matter which was true you where absolutely ruining one teams game which was great
@@enjoyingend1939 God I miss my Bogue, anytime I saw a different countries CV in game I would be cheering like crazy. Wasnt too long after that my fighters would clear their deck and take them out of the game.
why did they change the way CV's work? before when you had limited aircraft and more control over your planes, it made sense over what it is now; where you know you are going to get bombed again no matter how many aircraft you shoot down.
@@trickledowneconomicsfail7127 Probably because of how unbalanced it was, you can see all of us fondly remembering how superior american carriers were. If you tried to play any other country and faced an american you were dead. We would fighter spam you and wipe out every single plane you had and then turn to your buddies. Planes werent unlimited back then, you had to pick and choose your fights and manage the number of aircraft that you had on deck, once you ran out you were done, we didnt even have to spot you to take you out of the game. There were other nasty tactics like setting up overlapping torp runs on BB's so that no matter which way you turned you were taking torps. AA back then was hilariously ineffective against aircraft whereas now youll barely get off one attack run before the ship wipes your planes out. Planes never run out now so CV's cant complain about running out and ships cant complain that AA isnt effective. What they should have really done is rework other ships to make turrets and things permanently killable, CV's being the only thing that could lose all of its weapons was a bit weird.
This "ship" shoots infinite amount of guided missiles (disguised as "planes") which have flying time comparable to an artillery shell. And those missiles can freely fly around the map and spot things on the way.
Kinda like DDs spamming infinite torps from smoke
@@David-ys4ud difference being torps are actually infinite while planes arent
@@bladeclanhalo3 how are torpedoes infinite?
@@David-ys4ud they don't run out even with huge amounts of reload
@@bladeclanhalo3 in real life they could never reload torpedoes during a battle. Most had to go back to port to reload
This happened to me the other night in the Alsace, games been running for a minute or so an Eagle torp flight appears in front of me, two runs (my ineffective AA, and a fighter in the air) 30k HP lost, a minute or so later a bombing run took another 30k so 90% of my HP lost in 4 mins and I had no defence, I asked the player if he enjoyed spoiling the game by using these ships "you were the easiest target, stop crying" to me it's little different to FPS wall hacks but provided by WG
CVs are the dedicated griefing class. Some CV players seem to play them for this exact purpose.
They are the only ones in chat I saw taunting their opponents as they progressively sink them with no counter.
They behave exactly like school bullies, except that you can't punch back.
Happened to me last night. In a Charles martel in a one dd game and I was spotting and capping in the far flank. I had dfa, fighter jet and priority targeting running. Cv still killed me in less than three minutes. And when I thanked him in chat he reminded me that he is only a t 6 carrier and it isn't that powerful.
@@Matthew10950 what T6 CV has the damage to kill you in 3 minutes?
@Xenon 312 can't remember which one it was, I took a shot from a Russian bb as well, I think.
Don't hate the player hate the game.
Wait till you see my very next, 2nd ever match in this ship 😂
should we be scared
Yikes
Upload it immediately!🤣
Please let us take a shower first, to clean ourselves from this filth
Flambass opened his video with my reading up my comment! Look Ma, I am famous now!!!
Am I the only one who misses the days when you could send your fighters to target the other CVs planes??? Seems like it might be time for that to come back.
i came back just after the cv rework and i was so ready to go cv;)
now the bbs are gone with no aa . game went to crap with the ship money grab
I hated CV's since very start and this was exactly the reason, why did I start CV line. I played US CV's with fighter setup. I did not care about bad score/revard. My revard was supporting my own team and ruining the day for brainless apes by creating no fly zones. Watching them grinding map border with no planes left and spamming insults in chat was so satisfaying ..
Then they took it away, ofc.
@@OslikusPrime I remember having lots of fun with the tier 5 Bogue's fighter-heavy loadout, abusing any Japanese CV and basically doing what you did. Nothing better than melting the strike capability of other CVs so everyone else can enjoy a relatively plane-free game
@@g2s88 Exactly my point! I had just gotten through the Independence and started my Ranger when the change happened - but I always kept that damn Bogue for the fun of it.
They arent bringing it back they did their shit rework , half the community left due to no reason to play the game because cvs was something different and now they are adding subs to end the other community.
8:24 is gold. Not even funny anymore WG. Thanks to Flambass for showing what a competent super CV player can do to the red team.
Totally agree. We need a non-CV, non-sub mode back.
I quit over subs and cvs. I would return if they made a mode without them.
@@EvoraGT430 Many of us warned WG during Alpha and Beta testing about all this crap and how players would hate it. Told them they'd NEVER manage to balance CVs because either they'd be shit to play and people wouldn't bother OR they'd be OP and everyone ELSE would hate them.
Of course we all know how much WG listens to its customers, even those supposedly testing (what we really were doing was populating the almighty spreadsheet).
It's why I quit just short of 500 games after launch. Knew where it would go, wasn't going to put time into it.
No way will WG ever put up a "no CV" mode because they know it's where everyone would play.
I'm surprised they didn't offer it BUT stick a big price tag on the access to it (make it like a second form of Premium). I'd be interested to see if they'd make more money from people AVOIDING playing CVs than I imagine they've made from people playing them, LOL. If they DID, they'd have to accept they were "mistaken" about how people really feel about CVs, which they would NEVER, EVER admit.
It's possible some of this BS might alter now the jerks in St Petersburg aren't calling the shots, but I wouldn't want to bet on it.
@@steeltrap3800 Well... "price tag" is the main word in this instance.
Just as with the CV-rework they used a lot of money on the subs, and if there is one thing investors hate, it is wasting money without getting anything in return. Quite sure some of the developers advised that it would be a bad idea, because it would cause serious balancing issues.
@@andreaspedersen3952 Yes, if CVs and the absurd "have to keep at least x% of players playing them" told us anything, those things would include that WG has "sunk cost fallacy" up the wahzoo and that player feedback/enjoyment isn't likely in an HONEST top 10 of WG's priorities.
Going to be very interesting if removing St Petersburg (and its allegedly/apparently toxic internal culture) from development will have the slightest effect on any of those things.
Based on subs and this truly astoundingly all but idiot-proof CV, significantly more "look, mum, no hands or clue about anything in this game beyond click at the red things"-proof than pretty much anything I've seen (which tells you something given I started in Alpha testing and have watched people on YT despite quitting playing), I hope for current players' sake it DOES change.
I suspect they'll have just as much sunk cost idiocy with subs as they do with CVs, so I suspect not, or at least not in a good way, LOL.
Would appeal to my sense of irony if Subs prove the last straw and torpedo a lot of experienced players' willingness to play.
In fact if I WERE ever to play again, it might be with subs just to learn how to troll with them/see how broken they can be.
I'm stuck in the Asia server and WG won't let me back to NA, so playing something that largely can ignore CVs is all but mandatory as EVERY GAME has 2 CVs per side, or certainly did.
Fascinating seeing how much rationalisation goes on in CV players' minds as to how the CV isn't broken, it's just other players suck despite all the stats in the world saying otherwise.
Cheers
[As an aside, one of the worst mistakes I made was believing anything WG told us to induce us to move from NA back when the Asia server (or SEA as it was called) first started; the promised improvements vanished and we were left with a bunch of bots, AFK-ers, notorious cheats, incredible timid game play, and [][][][][] [][] [][][][] being the most frequently uttered language in chat, LOL. It's also interesting to see just how little it matters to WG that I've been involved with them since 2010 WoT Beta testing, have a load of premium and rare vehicles, then Alpha testing WoWS through to release. No attempt to induce me back, never see any emails from them, which is also why I missed an opportunity to transfer to NA last year - and also proves what BS it is when they say "we're unable to transfer players". Such a shitty, dishonest, unprincipled company]
Keeping in mind that while he was racking up damage, he hadn't moved a single time, nor been spotted, nor been in any serious danger.
Playing CVs 101. Getting rewarded for not being in danger at all and most of the time dying last.
I love these kind of replays...
They kept me away from this game for 1 year and I'm still not tempted to install it again.
And to think I used to love this game. But I saw what this game is becoming. Think of it as 2 layers. First layer is the actual game we love. We get that part pretty much for free. Second layer is the buiness layer for WG - where they sell bundles, ships etc. The guys from 2nd layer are paying WG for manhunt - 1st layer are the prey.
I think the only slight problem is that the guys from the first layer are somewhat competent to the game. Meanwhile the incompetent ones grab the OP ships by throwing money at it to compensate for their lack of skill.
@@BladeKi11a yeah that's the case every time we got ARP Yamato in a game, the rich kids were less competent most of the time
The game is still plenty fun at tier 6 and below :p. I find that tier 7 and up is when it starts to get not so fun.
Freemium grinders have a lean toward this end. I’ve been let down by a few titles and teams at this point
It was 6342 damage to the freisland during the rocket strike.
Boom!
When Flambass cackles like an evil overlord after each drop, you know that ship is OP.
Man that poor Donskoi had absolutely 0 chance when he went with the Jet-torps. Literally popped over the island and dropped 2 secconds later. Absolutely Insane.
WG is being "historically accurate". They are steadily buffing cvs, lowering the importance of surface ships and their engagements+AA, making them be the prey of aircraft. The CVs are now becoming the main power of the game, while subs are lurkers spotting and finishing off wounded ships. Soon the bbs will just group around a carrier and become its escort for the whole game while dds hunt subs trying to strike the task force...great historical value wg.....to an unhistorical ship game based on line of sight and ship vs ship....if only you didn't charge hundreds of dollars/ship and make it so grindy to progress in this snipe fest....i would play uboat simulator or the battlestations game if i wanted such an experiece....
yeah if they're going to add in jets on super carriers then they need to give our destroyers CIWS etc lol.
It's now called world of carriers.
@@randyscraft lmao
glad i packed the game in before tier 11 and the spotting changes. I know its an arcade style game, but a seal clubbing carrier is no fun for the rest of the team
Totally true and obvious to everyone except WG.
Balance department: So...when do i have to do my part in this game ?
WG: That's the neat thing, you don't
The consumable CV planes feel more balanced than anything that has come out of CVs. They do meaningful damage, but it is also meaningful to shoot down even one plane since they dont recycle and only one strike.
I honestly think this should have been the model for all CVs. with some kind of utility planes(not stun bombs) that recycled that can scout. But maybe not even that just a lower cooldown.
the way CV's used to work back in the day was so much better than the joke they are now. Where you would control where your aircraft would be. you could actually run out of aircraft which actually makes sense.
They get reset with same flight size so that "balance" I hope you were being sarcastic.
So exciting to play battleship these days with planes and subs
Those meteors are peak "Just Dodge" energy
In 2+ years in watching his videos, that has to be the fastest Kracken for a carrier he has played.
my experience with this thing (only 2 games) was, that my planes just died instantly, against a bit of better AA like Halland and Petro... But i am also a bad CV player i think... thank god for my enemies, cant bear too much of this after having suffered from enemy CVs all the time
thats definitely what those rockets are for strafing a target area
Breakfast and workbreak and perfect timing for Flambass
With the Eagles jet rockets, the best way to use them is length wise of the ship, from bow to stern or vice versa. The pattern of drop is pushing away from the initial spot.
I'd say it's even more efficient to target a 45°-ish angled target from the back with those strike pattern, compared to a normal strike.
And thinking that I loved this games for so long... Uninstalled years ago, did not go back since. Kind of miss the nostalgia of it, but this videos are the perfect reminder of what it has become, and why I don't bother coming back.
Thank you Flambass :)
I miss the good old days before the aircraft carrier rework, when you had to shoot down over 90 planes to get the AA Expert achievement. A few times I've done that in my Saipan with the 3 squadrons of fighters. that was fun...
ty for the video :) How may I unlock Eagle ? I could'nt see it neither in tech tree nor premium shop.
Came to see Flambass' joy. Was not disappointed.
Community: „how unbalanced this Game can become?“
WG: „Hold my Wodka“
This video LOL at beginning I was thinking damn aircraft suck... then rest of the video happened lol
Dude that very last bit was lit
Wow, this video really makes me happy to have stopped playing back in 2018 as more and more fantasy ships entered the game. There is nothing about this that looks fun an engaging for either party.
Why do 2 planes always pull out of formation and leave right before the attack?
Damn those rockets are hilarious, burst fire mode enabled.
Aw, I was looking forward to the "QWAKEN" music!!!
what a great vid, love watching you play warships.
It's carriers not warships, they changed the name.
Best comercial WG can dream of.
what captain build are you using?
Wargaming: "Carriers are perfectly balanced."
Flambass: "11:39"
Amazing. WG took a converted battleship, Eagle, that was sunk in 1941 and stuck planes on it that couldn't even fit on the flight deck as the Canberra. What's next? HMS Victory outfitted with Rolls Royce diesels and mounting 14 inch guns?
Wrong Eagle. This HMS Eagle is what Audacious was eventually launched as. The angled flight deck was added in the Mid 50's.
the new spanish fleet the Santa Maria, La Niña and La Pinta all with 20 18inch guns and nuclear power
Lol the torp spread on the donskoi🤣🤣😂😂
I didnt knew the early jets had afterburners
Just wait, I think nukes are just about ready forgeneral release. LOL
Hmm maybe this ship is a little bit op xD
I know why i quiit playing this game 5 years ago :P
But still a grate fun to see you!
Stay strong :P
The only things that amaze me is not his performance, but the enemy AA gun crew that can keep up with these transonic jet and still alive after being attacked ...
Oh wait it's different game ~ 👀
Pretty dope ship, but probably will never play it, the fast airplanes sound reminds me of nato bombarders that were attacking my city when was kid. Jesus, got slight panic attack after i heard it when squadron started haha, totally unexpected. 😅
As always you're soo lucky :) and funny ! yeah you right that's what this game just needed adrenaline!! :P
I aint no expert on torpedo bombing, but dropping them into water at 350 knots seems like a rather poor idea...
It seems those Rocket Planes might be used for Strafing Bow -> Stern or reverse, judging on their pattern.
Funny, last time I checked the production version of the Wyvern was a turboprop, not a piston engine…
I keep let out "What the actual fuck?" every time you make a strike with those jet planes.
you are the best player! and very looky soths in smoke!! in this played congrat..
interested to see how you'll do once you have a few more games with this thing, Flamborough
I literally just uninstalled this game yesterday after dealing with this Cv and a balao at the same time for almost the entire game in a al. Nevsky. It was literally like I couldn’t do damage to either one of them. Spec’d for aa and it did nothing. Ping after ping after ping from the sub. Game is ruined.
So you uninstalled the game but decided to still watch CC videos on it.
Yeah, it’s enjoyable. I like the feedback as well. Nothing wrong with that.
i was getting ready to start but after watching this i think i will skip it
No one cares
Would love to see Achilles Hutson in CV in this version of WOW she's a CV legend in Blitz
Ruthless flambino strikes again lol epic balance
Holy sheet.. That's some nice damage !! 🤣🤣🤣
you have the biggest smile this whole vid lol
Honestly the jets are super balanced because AA actually works on them and losing one or two jets significantly impacts the potency of your strike. This will likely be patched out kek.
remember when cv's didnt have nano machines pumping out plane replacements?
they really try hard to make the game more unfair...
1:37 this is what always happen to me...
4:45 bascially the BB use R too early, also Flambass so lucky get it flood per 1 torp only
it seems like your planes never got shot down so you could take your time and release all of the torps
Spreadsheet says Flambass is having much fun!
Cool game! Looks Fun!
Sometimes I wonder why I haven't played this game in 6 months. Then I see a video like this lol
Jet Aircraft that can cover half the map in seconds....... Exactly what we needed to balance CVs.
11 minute Kraken, and 181k dmg.
with screwing up a few runs.
And: this ship has the British bombers, which *aren't really all that good*, AND: he went repeatedly after BB's with the rockets. Not their ideal target.
I see no problems here.
Totally balans
Hello, I am a ucking birch Tier 4 new player. I am now grinding for Italian & German first line BB and USSR CV. I am trying to use USSR BB because of it's strong armor.
I checked many website for more info about which line to choose. But i think ask you guys would be a faster way for an professional answer. So, can I ask that which line do you guys suggest for the best Battleships and the best tech tree for Cruisers. (except USA and Japen, I play too much about them)
@Flambass it was 6k on dd in smoke with rockets, stil not bad as for blind fire xD, seems balanced
How do I unlock this?
You know some people will never learn that smoke screens are torpedo magnets.
hello, which one is stronger in all aspects? -- i) Super ship Eagle? or, ii. X Malta?
please help & let me know
Get both I got both.
i seemed to have missed the part where the Canberra was supposed to have afterburners XD
Man I remember in 2017/18 when CVs were rts like. I remember playing with my T5&6 cvs and cursing myself every time I got to close to a Texas or a ship with high AA. Anytime I just PASSED a ship with GOOD, not great, GOOD AA, I would loose a plane or 2. On ships with EXCEPTIONAL AA I would loose an entire flight in seconds.
I remember making desperate attacks knowing I’ll loose all my planes, just to force an aggressive ship into my teams sights. I remember micromanaging my fighters to try and cover my team and scout the enemies. Trying to dance just enough into AA range to spot and not loose my fighter.
Ships that specifically went for AA skills shut me down completely. But they also got decimated by other ships.
When I would fly past the entire enemy team, there wouldn’t be much of a fly by, it was me loosing a flight in 2 seconds.
And it was FUN.
yeah why did they ever change it? I stopped playing the game for a few years and came back to it late last year and i jumped on my cv and it was a joke. The potential for a good strike was so much higher but so was the risks. Makes sense that a battleship on it's own would be a good target. Whereas now, it doesnt matter since you just regen your aircraft.
I legit think the cv overhaul in world of warcraft was one of the biggest failures in game design in the history of video games.
Sick Ship
The Canberra wasn't fitted with machine guns, as far as I remember, so the ones you use fro rocket attack don't give the warning shots.
Edit: Oh.... Meteors.... well they are hard to tell at a glance.
Correct, no guns
Canberra’s were never designed to fly from aircraft carriers either, but since when have the facts ever deterred WG from implementing anything in this game.
I want to see a tournament game with a team of all eagles....
i missed the time where bothside cv fighter squadron would both try to run manual strike path against each other, and see who make a mistake and lost all their fighters, while trying to save friendlies ship and bomb/torp enemy ships, i dont like the current cv at all :(
If I was that Friesland I would have raged quit.
super play bro
✌✌✌
Witherer in a CV, dont see that often.
Now we need to put in the potato modifier to those numbers, times it by .25 and you get the real numbers.
Seeing how happy you got playing this ship prompted me to reinstall the game, well played sir
Top vid mate
That donskoi should have just dodged
perfect game gg
star means tier 11?
Thanks for you hard work keeping me not playing the game.
thats nice
Carrier main confirmation
So those rocket planes are basically specialised in stripping away aa mounts and hitting smoked up dds? F*****g hell
If only they brought back how the carriers used to be
Fun and engaging...
At least one player had a lot of fun....
This Game needs more Paywallhidden Content!
Just watching this shaking my head... how the hell....
As someone who hasn’t played this game since the first year it came out why does this carrier just have a star where the other ships have its tier?